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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Terry Bogard on May 31, 2001, 07:44:38 AM
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I know this may sound ludacris, but did 2pac really die?
After all You can not just cremate a body 1 day after death, there is at least 2 to 3 weeks of paper work, then the papers have to be filed. So, the question remains. Did 2pac really perish?
*Note* I think he is in Cuba, There is to much **** said on his music to say that he is dead. Listen to songs like Changes, God bless the dead. 2pac says a bunch of things that happened after his death. HOW can that be? You guys be the judge.
It is all a huge conspiracy to me.
Look here:
http://www.alleyezonme.com/articles/index.phtml
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While I absolutely can\'t stand hip hop in most of it\'s forms, I love a good conspiracy theory. All I have to say on ths matter is: 2pac has released 4 or 5 albums since he died. NOBODY records that many songs and doesn\'t release them. Just listen for new slang on his new albums and that will tell you.
Eric Jacob
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He is dead. How do I know? Unfortunately I saw his autopsy photos and got a big lump in my throat from it.
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Yes. I to have seen his autopsy photos.
They got them over at celebrity mourge (can\'t remember the URL)
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
While I absolutely can\'t stand hip hop in most of it\'s forms, I love a good conspiracy theory. All I have to say on ths matter is: 2pac has released 4 or 5 albums since he died. NOBODY records that many songs and doesn\'t release them. Just listen for new slang on his new albums and that will tell you.
Eric Jacob
HE DID record that many songs before he died. He was a phenominal song writer. His best album (IMO), The Seven Day Theory was written, produced and recorded in...yes, that\'s right 7 days. Was this an album of Cash-Money style prancing about his *****es and his hoes? No it was a brilliant album laden with metaphor and deep meaning (listen to \'My Girlfriend\' and \'White Man\'s World\'). The guy was a genius (Berkeley has course that studies his poetry).
Not to mention faking your death is probably the hardest thing to do. To quote Fox Mulder; "Only one man has been able to fake his own death, Scully....ELLLVISSS!" :)
The Artist Formerly Known As Prince, also has more than 50 songs recorded and unreleased, he said so in an interview a few years ago, and many of those songs were released on Emancipation.
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This is sort of a tangent, but I pass by the spot on Wilshire Blvd where Biggy Smalls was killed quite often. Sorry, no bloodstains on the cement to verify his status. Do you think he\'s hangin with 2Pac in Central America? If so, I wish they\'d take Eminem with \'em. I also occasionally pass by the Viper Room where River Phoenix died on the sidewalk.
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Originally posted by DaRkGaMeR
Listen to songs like Changes, God bless the dead. 2pac says a bunch of things that happened after his death. HOW can that be?
God Bless the Dead is not about Biggie Smalls (Notorious BIG), it\'s about another \'biggie\' - listen to Hit \'Em Up (part 1 & 2) and tell me if 2Pac would ever say anything kind about BIG.
"Heard they call you big poppa, nigga how you figure? \'Cause to me you\'ll always be a phony fat nigga."
God bless the dead indeed...
The lyrics for Changes were first heard in a free-style Pac did after 2Pacalypse Now. Same thing for \'Nothing To Lose\'.
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Yes, 2Pac has passed on. Those who don\'t believe it are in denial.
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One FINAL thing;
Tupac HATED Junior Mafia (\'aint one of you got sickle cell?\') and even Nas (\'and now you want to live my life?\'), because he felt they were fake, and hence the brutal lyrical assualt towards both of them.
IF he was still alive, there would be no way he\'d hold his tongue and absolutely cuss (to mention just a few); \'gay-ass Dre\' and his ***** Marshal, Master P, the Cash-Money morons, Mase (a special kid), and Puff Daddy.
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2pac is the greatest... i hate puff daddy ans all his mates, there crap. yeah tupac wrote a lot of song, and thats why they are still releasing now, remember there not whole song when he left them, the musics been put round them, plus some of his songs that have been released are same as others, e.g i wonder if heaven got a getto and changes (think its changes) have a lot of the same words. i wish he wasnt dead, it makes me sad :(
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Originally posted by Lavan
Tupac HATED Junior Mafia (\'aint one of you got sickle cell?\') and even Nas (\'and now you want to live my life?\'), because he felt they were fake, and hence the brutal lyrical assualt towards both of them.
That sickle cell quote was about Mobb Deep. Don\'t get it twisted.
Originally posted by Lavan
IF he was still alive, there would be no way he\'d hold his tongue and absolutely cuss (to mention just a few); \'gay-ass Dre\' and his ***** Marshal, Master P, the Cash-Money morons, Mase (a special kid), and Puff Daddy.
There have been a lot of things said about that but I don\'t feel like posting them now. Maybe later. The gist of it is that a person can fake their own death but it is illegal. THe loophole to that is if a person is gone for more than SEVEN years then they can no longer be convicted. I know a lot of you don\'t speak spanish but on Telemundo last year there was a story about how Tupacs mother Afeni Shakur was sending money to Cuba(?) to a person named something Crookes. I believe that was 2Pacs gov\'t name so that is interesting by itself. N-E-Wayz, I\'ll post more when I get home.
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Originally posted by Gohan
That sickle cell quote was about Mobb Deep. Don\'t get it twisted.
Ooops, yup, my bad.
I never knew about the seven year thing, nor that Afeni was sending money to Cuba - more info please. Still, it\'s bloody hard to fake your own death.
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I quoted, and ALL the **** i said, Came from a friend of mine, NOT directly from my mouth. He gave me all these things, alot of them seem to be true. But i guess 2pac is gone, I\'m not how ever in denial, but you gotta admit, they cremated him 1 day after his death, There is no way in hell that can be done. Not with all the paper work and **** that has to be done.
*note* This came from a friend of mine, NOT me.
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yeah it weird to do that, so what if youve seen pics they may be fake. i actually think hes still alive, but he wouldnt release anymore songs, someone would tell/ find out hes not dead.
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Even if you can fake your death.......WHY WOULD U DO IT??????!!!!!!! It would suck majorly. You couldn\'t go out in public, you would have to isolated, you cant sign up for things you want, and you would have no friends. It is just idiodic to fake death.
I also wanna add just think what 2Pac would be saying now if he saw this! :laughing:
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2pac\'s chillin with me right now... say hi Pac...
\'Hi\'
See... he\'s here.
:D
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Sorry I can\'t post this picture. I mean no disrepect for mr. Shakur, but I\'m putting an end to your rumors.
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Originally posted by Animal Mother
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Sorry I can\'t post this picture. I mean no disrepect for mr. Shakur, but I\'m putting an end to your rumors.
While I think it\'s real, it could be fake, and no one here knows for sure. That\'s not proof.
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Its been proven Numerous times that all the autopsy pics floating around on the net are 100 percent Fakes. I can take that picture to a REAL photographer(which i don\'t have the time to do) and he can str8t up tell you those are FAKE pictures.
What a bunch of losers that want to get rich of 2pac\'s supposed real autopsy Pic.
*Note* They are NOT real. And thats been proven.
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Originally posted by ViVi
Even if you can fake your death.......WHY WOULD U DO IT??????!!!!!!! It would suck majorly. You couldn\'t go out in public, you would have to isolated, you cant sign up for things you want, and you would have no friends. It is just idiodic to fake death.
I think faking your death is extreme too but when Pac was locked up he read the books of Niccolo Machiavelli. For those who don\'t know Machiavelli was an italian who for some reason or another was exiled from his homeland and in order to get in good w/ the new leader he wrote several books on leadership and other things like that. Machiavelli also advocated faking ones own death in order to get at your enemies while thier guard was down. That is one theory as to why it happened. Seeing as how Tupac changed his name to Makiavelli. There are also SO many coincedences that are just too suspicious to ignore. I can post some if you want.
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Oh c\'mon people! It\'s great to see that you\'re keeping the man\'s memory alive, but don\'t do it like this! Debate about his music and his poetry instead of whether or not he\'s 6 feet under or living on an island. Sorry, but this just seems insulting.
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Originally posted by EThugg
2pac\'s chillin with me right now... say hi Pac...
\'Hi\'
See... he\'s here.
:D
SEE THERE? WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED?
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Another Conspiracy.
Is Adolf Hitler still alive and living underground?.
:)
No but really. I know he is dead now, but I dont think he died when he was immediatly announced DEAD. I think that he faked his death because everything was just too much for him.... I dont know. Let me know what yall think.
WOLFE
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WWIII
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Elvis is alive aswell,he\'s living out his life as farmer.He breeds donkey\'s and stuff.
Jeez :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by nO-One
Elvis is alive aswell,he\'s living out his life as farmer.He breeds donkey\'s and stuff.
Oh boy that was super funny.[/sarcasm]
:rolleyes:
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why do people think he\'s alive, I have this stupid class mate who thinks he will come back in 2007 (he sees tupac as his mentor) He is hsot DEAD face it dead is dead! I can also say elvis was taken by aliens and that the martians will bring him back., or not?
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I guess 182ways is right.
We should debate about his Poetry(damn good poetry too) and most importantly, HIS MUSIC:D
Anyone one got all of 2pac\'s albums?
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Originally posted by Gohan
Oh boy that was super funny.[/sarcasm]
:rolleyes:
Really cool :p
:rolleyes:
(I\'m beginning to like this rolleyes emoticon)
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For all those that talk isshhh! First off, the autopsy photo for crying out loud has been proven to be fake. Even the pics the news had didn\'t want to show head shots. The head shot that\'s on the net now is fake. Nobody here heard of photo editing???
Secondly, nothing is too hard if you have the right connections!! Period!!
It\'s been done once before and who\'s to say it can\'t be done again! That\'s a pretty arrogant statement to say without something to back it up!!
As for his songs, while yes he had an archive of songs that weren\'t released, on recent songs there are things he says that he couldn\'t possibly know because they occurred after death!! Example, "Changes" and there\'s another where he talks about Biggies death.
And to the person who said he was talking about another Biggie, NAME THE OTHER BIGGIE!!
There are things surrounding his death that are unclear. Money is being moved, trips are being made, and NO ONE IS SAYING ANYTHING!
You can talk all you want but face the facts, too many things happened too fast, and no one is explaining!!
Thank you.
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Ever listen to the first couple seconds of "Makaveli:the don...." ? Turn it up real loud and you can hear "Suge Shot Him". If he is alive we will all find out in 2003.
http://www.geocities.com/jc632x/2pac.swf
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Originally posted by JC632X
Ever listen to the first couple seconds of "Makaveli:the don...." ? Turn it up real loud and you can hear "Suge Shot Him". If he is alive we will all find out in 2003.
http://www.geocities.com/jc632x/2pac.swf
Suge had something to do with both Tupac and Biggie. Question is, with two witnesses dead, who\'s going to speak out against a man who knows no fear. Suge is crazy and I wouldn\'t be surprised if someone came up to speak against him and turned up dead the next day from a freak accident!
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He is still alive, and Kurt Cobain didnt commit suicide Courtney Love killed him
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I hope he shows up in 2003 because it will be ****ing hilarious!!!
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Originally posted by nO-One
Elvis is alive aswell,he\'s living out his life as farmer.He breeds donkey\'s and stuff.
Jeez :rolleyes:
You have it all wrong. Didnt you watch Men In Black? Elvis just went home.
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I don\'t know what to believe, on one hand I believe it was Suge Knight. I mean from what I know is that Suge pulled up to a stop light in Las Vegas.
A black Car pulled up next to them and Pac got shot 5 times, Now why wouldn\'t the "murderer" make sure suge isn\'t dead?!, Doesn\'t make any sense...................
I think Suge got rid of him because Pac was too much of a responsibility, always getting in trouble and costing Death Row Records when they tryed to get him out.
Another thing:
During BET\'s Interview with Suge Knight the guy asked Suge, "If you knew who shot 2pac would you tell the Police"
Suge\'s Answer (not a direct qoute): "No chance in hell"
The Interviewer was sitting there stunned.
One more thing, the "Broken Wings" (Until the end of time) song, at the real beginning I swear Tupac says this;
"This is my record 2000, and after that it kind of fades out".
And it would be funny if He did come back, I for one will be the happiest person walking god\'s green earth.
Seeing the look on Bad Boy records faces.........
But realistically thats not going to happen, Right now, I only like one person; DMX.
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I aggreee about Courtney killing Curt....she IS NUTS! I wouldnt put it past her just to get Publicity for her CD
I\'m not a Moderator but I play one on TV
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yea my friend was telling that even her father said she would kill him in a iterview and also i heard she hired some mexican guy to kill him and he said someting about it and he was found dead not to long after
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Originally posted by ViVi
I hope he shows up in 2003 because it will be ****ing hilarious!!!
He\'ll get sued is what\'ll happen
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Originally posted by Animal Mother
He\'ll get sued is what\'ll happen
By who?
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I dunno my boyfriend is a HUGE fan of Tupac and he was saying something about he thinks that Tupac faked his death and got his tatoos removed or something like that. I just got his new cd "Untill the End of Time" If he is dead than why does he keep coming out with new cd\'s?
I think maybe someone said something about that already but I am way too tired to read ever post on this topic so I skimmed through most of them. Don\'t yell I am slow ^_^
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Originally posted by Starr
I dunno my boyfriend is a HUGE fan of Tupac and he was saying something about he thinks that Tupac faked his death
You are a girl.... right? (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcwm.ragesofsanity.com%2Fotn%2Fshocked%2FOogle_anim.gif&hash=3c15a186a13e47ec77953c13701db330996ec20b)
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Originally posted by ViVi
You are a girl.... right? (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcwm.ragesofsanity.com%2Fotn%2Fshocked%2FOogle_anim.gif&hash=3c15a186a13e47ec77953c13701db330996ec20b)
Why would you ask that even? Are you homophobic, or just nosey?
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Originally posted by EThugg
Why would you ask that even? Are you homophobic, or just nosey?
1) I was suprised a girl joined the board
2) Call me prejuduce but homos get me aggravated
3) Get off my nutz!!!
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Call me prejuduce but homos get me aggravated
Why? It is just a person and even at that. It is just text on a screen..
I fully believe he is dead, but I can also see why someone would fake their death, espically when popular.
Take Jim Morrison for example, he didn\'t want to be a rock-star. He wanted to be a poet. He got popular and hated it. He wanted to be known for his poetry not just because he was a rock-star. He made plenty of references in his poetry that he would like to move to Africa, where no one knew him, and everyone else would think he was dead. Then there was plenty of weird things about his death, that has lead people to believe he isn\'t dead.
I\'m a huge Doors fan, so of course I\'d like to believe he isn\'t dead. But, lets face it. He is. Same with 2-Pac. I can see why fans don\'t want to believe the person is dead. And I can see why someone would fake their death. But, I believe, 2pac, Elvis, Morrison and Lassie (the dog) are all dead.
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Originally posted by ViVi
You are a girl.... right? (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcwm.ragesofsanity.com%2Fotn%2Fshocked%2FOogle_anim.gif&hash=3c15a186a13e47ec77953c13701db330996ec20b)
Don\'t think me rude or anything but I have BEEN here for awhile, I just don\'t post all that much. I think you should have READ my profile and taken notice that there is a special lil area for people who have a hard time telling if I am a girl or not. YES I AM A GIRL. that would be the main reason why I said "my boyfriend." You hear about more girls having boyfriends than you do guys. ^_^
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uh.....Hey Behbee..[/Butthead]
No seriously, Its been a while. SmallLady had a monopoly on the female POV until Ms. Monneypenny and Starr came through.
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I came here I think about (along time I\'m not sure) after Small lady was here but yea I have been here awhile I have just been afraid to post.
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why are you afraid to post
thats a shame - don\'t worry after a while all the guys would get use to girls posting if they would just post instead of holding back
don\'t be afraid none of us will bite...hard - ahh nm