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Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: rastalant on June 03, 2001, 07:22:15 PM
Please tell  me in the best looking 32-bit game post that jumpman was joking about xbox being 32-bit?  If it is that is the most amazing 32-bit I\'ve ever seen.  What bit is the xbox does anyone know?  I thought it was 128-bit?  What bit is the x-Chip N2A?  Could someone tell me?
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Nu on June 03, 2001, 07:27:40 PM
I\'ve heard 128-bit, and I\'ve heard 256-bit. But I\'ve never done any serious research on the matter.

... Really, bits dont matter that much anyways. They did back in the day when all developers made were 2D games.
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: ho3j on June 03, 2001, 07:32:22 PM
It depends on how you look at it.  The CPU is 32bit while the GPU is 128.  Since the GPU is the hear of the Xbox is the GPU (as apposed to the PS2 whose heart is the EE) then you could say it 128 if you like.

Either way, bits don\'t really matter.  Its a lot like MHZ; 333MHZ (did I get that right?) vs. 733MHZ, which one is faster?  It is a matter of looking at the whole picture and then the results that they create.
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: rastalant on June 03, 2001, 07:34:37 PM
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Originally posted by Nu Gundam
I\'ve heard 128-bit, and I\'ve heard 256-bit. But I\'ve never done any serious research on the matter.

... Really, bits dont matter that much anyways. They did back in the day when all developers made were 2D games.



I agree bit doesn\'t matter.  But I think its 128-bit and I also heard that its 256-bit as well.  So I guess it depends on how you look at it.
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: nO-One on June 03, 2001, 07:56:47 PM
The CPU is 32 bit,as are all desktop processors.We\'ll have to wait for the Clawhammer\'s to get a 64 bit desktop processors.

And the GPU is 256 bit if I remember correctly,not sure though.

And as ho3j said you have to look at the big picture.While the P3 spanks the PS.2\'s MIPS processor silly when it comes to Mhz,the MIPS slaps the P3 silly when it comes to floating point calculations,and when you add the VU\'s the PS.2 becomes a formiddable force to reckon with.

The bottom line is,that those consoles are very different.And comparing those two by only measuring bits and Mhz is as futile as ranting and raving about........well other things (I couldn\'t think of any.writers block ;))
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: ho3j on June 03, 2001, 08:01:51 PM
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Originally posted by nO-One
The CPU is 32 bit,as are all desktop processors.We\'ll have to wait for the Clawhammer\'s to get a 64 bit desktop processors.

And the GPU is 256 bit if I remember correctly,not sure though.


I think there is some part of the GPU that is 128bit so the bit fanatics (if they still exsist) get pretty hurt if you say its 256. ;)
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 04, 2001, 02:12:52 AM
PS2 is the only true 128 bit console, actually, the Emotion Engine is 3 processors all working at 128 bits, and at 294 mhz, working in tandom on the same or seperate things, the EE is very very powerful

XBox CPU is 32 bits
GameCube CPU is 64 bits
Dreamcast CPU is 64 bits

but thats only the XBox CPU, its the GPU that is the star of the show in the XBox console, and that is definately 128 bits
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Avatarr on June 04, 2001, 02:28:53 AM
Whell, I was always under the impression that the XGPU had 4, 64-bit rendering pipelines, effectively making it a 256-bit proccessor. If someone would be so diligent as to look it up, we can move from this state of uncertainty.
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 04, 2001, 02:49:57 AM
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Originally posted by Avatarr
Whell, I was always under the impression that the XGPU had 4, 64-bit rendering pipelines, effectively making it a 256-bit proccessor. If someone would be so diligent as to look it up, we can move from this state of uncertainty.


bah, by that logic the EE is 512 bits
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: STROKE on June 04, 2001, 03:42:05 AM
IT DOESN\'T MATTER ;)
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 04, 2001, 03:58:51 AM
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Originally posted by STROKE
IT DOESN\'T MATTER ;)


dammit stroke...we know it doesnt matter, but people were curious, and now they know
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: STROKE on June 04, 2001, 04:07:25 AM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware


dammit stroke...we know it doesnt matter, but people were curious, and now they know

I know, but all this technical things aren\'t important. What are 1000000 Bit without funny games with a good gameplay?
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 04, 2001, 09:29:50 PM
there was never any arguement about saying te PS2 was better because its CPU had a 128 bit processor, while the XB only had a 32 bit processor, someone asked out of curiousity as to whether or not XB was 32 bits
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Avatarr on June 05, 2001, 02:02:46 AM
And now we know that the Xbox is in essence a 256-bit machine because of its GPU. =)
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 05, 2001, 03:06:47 AM
uhh...but what about the 32 bt CPU...the heart of the machine?

lets average it out

256 + 32 / 2 = 144 bits

hows that Avvy, you stuborn bastAAArd
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Avatarr on June 05, 2001, 03:13:24 AM
Bobo, I belive I\'ve adiquately explained the theorem to you last night. I\'m not one who delights in repeating oneself, so look elsewhere if you were seeking a re-explenation.

And bastErd is spelt with an E, not an A.
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 05, 2001, 03:16:55 AM
ARGH!  you are a fool, Bastard is spelt with an A

the XBox is technically a 32 bit machine, despite its \'technically\' 256 bit GPU...we are not saying your treasures console is less superior than PS2, so stop arguing

you dont have any credibility in my books anymore anyway, your the person who once told me that the X-Box coulod "emulate the PS2 4 times over"  BWA HA HA
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Avatarr on June 05, 2001, 03:22:40 AM
To both of your outlandish assertions:
"No it isn\'t"

And to your wild allegation:
"No I didn\'t"

The figure was three and the conversation was in the context of power-on-paper.
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 05, 2001, 03:26:34 AM
"To both of your outlandish assertions:
"No it isn\'t" "

you are a moron if you think bastard is spelt with an E

"And to your wild allegation:
"No I didn\'t" "

that doesnt make sense with what i was saying

"The figure was three and the conversation was in the context of power-on-paper."

and that not true, you said to me it coul EMULATE the PS2 4 TIME OVER...in the context that you could get an emulator onto the harddrive and IMPROVE THE GRAPHICS OF EVERY GAME 4 fold
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Avatarr on June 05, 2001, 03:37:36 AM
Your wild allegation was:
"your the person who once told me that the X-Box coulod "emulate the PS2 4 times over" BWA HA HA"

I naturally deny this, as I am obviously far too enlightened to have said anything as exhorbetantly improbable. I am also far too enlightened to continue this infantile debate, therefore any post made along these lines will not earn my devine response.
Title: What bit is XBox??!!?!?!?
Post by: Samwise on June 05, 2001, 04:19:11 AM
Awy: Xbox is inferior to NES and bastard is with an a. :D
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Ok, so the first isn\'t true but the latter is:

bas·tard (bstrd)
n.
1. A child born out of wedlock.
2. Something that is of irregular, inferior, or dubious origin.
3. Slang. A person, especially one who is held to be mean or disagreeable.