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Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: datamage on June 06, 2001, 05:09:56 PM
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Itagaki was first asked to address the issue of Dead or Alive 3 for the PS2 and GameCube. It is technically impossible," he stated, continuing with "The [graphics] quality would drop." Itagaki believes that the Xbox can achieve four to five times the performance of current machines.


Source: http://ps2.ign.com/news/35550.html

Ouch?

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: AlteredBeast on June 06, 2001, 05:50:41 PM
of course, this is the guy who said HE maxed out the DC on DOA2.

hmmm, you gotta wonder about thse guys sometimes. Money under the table, perhaps?

Eric Jacob
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: ddaryl on June 06, 2001, 06:06:19 PM
well from the screenshots of DOA3 that came out of E3 I\'m not going to argue with him.

but I do expect Xbxo to be 3x\'s better graophically otherwise I won\'t be as interested in getting one
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: hyper on June 06, 2001, 06:28:51 PM
At this point, I wouldn\'t argue with him. From what I\'ve seen at E3, the X-Box is graphically superior to the GC. I wouldn\'t be surprised though, if Tecmo could pull off something similar with the PS2.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 06, 2001, 08:14:43 PM
I can\'t wait till xbox is out for at least a year, then it will so obvious who\'s the king of all Graphics and speacial effects.

WHo\'s your DADDY, MR XBOX!!!!!!
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: IronFist on June 06, 2001, 08:26:16 PM
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Originally posted by hyper
At this point, I wouldn\'t argue with him. From what I\'ve seen at E3, the X-Box is graphically superior to the GC. I wouldn\'t be surprised though, if Tecmo could pull off something similar with the PS2.

Hyper?  Is that you?  I thought you loved the NGC, and now you\'re saying that the NGC is the most inferior?

I wouldn\'t argue with him either.  The Xbox is graphically superior to both the PS2 and the NGC (as of right now -- I expect as the developers learn more about the PS2, the graphics on it will start to easily compare to the Xbox\'s).  But he also implied later in the article that a newer DOA would be coming to the PS2/NGC eventually.  I am still predicting a DOA3:Hardcore though, even after what Itagaki said.  Just wait, it will come. :)
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 06, 2001, 09:27:19 PM
what kind of an idiodic reason not to por it to the other machines is that???  ohh, the graphics would be lower in quality, pfft

anyhoo, im sure it\'ll be a good game, but ive never really given em a chance
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: ddaryl on June 06, 2001, 09:43:57 PM
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
I can\'t wait till xbox is out for at least a year, then it will so obvious who\'s the king of all Graphics and speacial effects.




Well I agree, it\'ll take a year for things to start flowing on XBox just like it did for the PS2.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: BizioEE on June 07, 2001, 01:06:48 AM
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Originally posted by ddaryl



Well I agree, it\'ll take a year for things to start flowing on XBox just like it did for the PS2.


well...yes...I\'m starting to realize that X-Box is really a Monster...I mean...it has still 5 months to go and some developers can easy produce the kind of Graphics seen in DOA3 or Project Ego....and I think developers need a lot of time(at least another 2 years) to take full advantage of features like "program-able vertex" and UMA...I think....and...however...nobody has seen what PS2 can really do...and the same for GameCube !
Let\'s wait and see !
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: datamage on June 07, 2001, 03:15:09 AM
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of course, this is the guy who said HE maxed out the DC on DOA2.


And I believe that he did. DOA2 still looks great, and there isn\'t much better looking games on DC. From a graphical standpoint, DOA2 is pushing tons o polys. Now maxxed it 100%, I doubt it, but he did push it far.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: QuDDus on June 07, 2001, 03:51:01 PM
I guess I kind of figured this. And buy the looks of the latest screens this games is going to be a monster.  And being a game fan I can\'t wait to get my hands on this game.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 07, 2001, 04:27:01 PM
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Originally posted by datamage


And I believe that he did. DOA2 still looks great, and there isn\'t much better looking games on DC. From a graphical standpoint, DOA2 is pushing tons o polys. Now maxxed it 100%, I doubt it, but he did push it far.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.


diudnt Yu Suzuki say it took him 2 years to get 50% of the Dreamcasts power???
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: hyper on June 07, 2001, 05:55:39 PM
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Originally posted by IronFist

Hyper?  Is that you?  I thought you loved the NGC, and now you\'re saying that the NGC is the most inferior?


Yeah, well, Luisi\'s Mansion didn\'t quite cut it for me, as well as the rest of Nintendo\'s E3 showings.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: IronFist on June 07, 2001, 07:42:13 PM
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Originally posted by hyper
Yeah, well, Luisi\'s Mansion didn\'t quite cut it for me, as well as the rest of Nintendo\'s E3 showings.

Yeah, and then they say (this is not an actual quote, but it sums up what they said quite nicely :)), "Just wait until Spaceworld.  We\'ll show the \'real\' stuff then."  LOL, yeah right.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: Sublimesjg on June 07, 2001, 07:49:10 PM
well i think that DOA3 could be done on the PS2 - it won\'t be as easy but it could be done

if the xbox is getting that much power now than what is there to look for
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: Eiksirf on June 07, 2001, 08:22:41 PM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
what kind of an idiodic reason not to port it to the other machines is that???  ohh, the graphics would be lower in quality, pfft


No kidding.

I\'ll agree too, that from some pictures, X-Box is looking to have the most potential, graphically.   Of course, it still takes a lot more than screenshots to make the so-called killer-app (read: Myst was pretty, too).  If X-Box, or GCN for that matter, will pull through where it counts has yet to be seen.

...

But I guess that\'s pretty obvious.

-Eik
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: IronFist on June 07, 2001, 09:12:40 PM
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
I\'ll agree too, that from some pictures, X-Box is looking to have the most potential, graphically.   Of course, it still takes a lot more than screenshots to make the so-called killer-app (read: Myst was pretty, too).  If X-Box, or GCN for that matter, will pull through where it counts has yet to be seen.

Am I the only one here who loved Myst? :)
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 07, 2001, 10:16:42 PM
What I find really funny is people that think DOA3 can be done on PS2. Face it folks the XBOX is alot more powerful than PS2. Yes PS2 has not been fully exploited, but neither has XBOX.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 07, 2001, 10:41:09 PM
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
What I find really funny is people that think DOA3 can be done on PS2. Face it folks the XBOX is alot more powerful than PS2. Yes PS2 has not been fully exploited, but neither has XBOX.


first of all...DoA3 could be done on PS2, now, and when its finished...chances are the graphics wont be as good, but face it, it could be done.  Second of all, DoA3 as it is now it seems to me like it could easily be done on PS2

and i will reserve my judgement on the graphics until i see it in motion
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 08, 2001, 12:37:31 AM
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first of all...DoA3 could be done on PS2


You know I ment graphic wise!!!

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DoA3 as it is now it seems to me like it could easily be done on PS2



Thats nice, your allowed to Think whatever you like, but the fact is, The Creator of DOA3, the guy who knows the game and PS2 capabilites alot better than you and I has said that it could not be done graphically on PS2. who do you think is right Team Ninja or you?
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 08, 2001, 01:20:36 AM
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Thats nice, your allowed to Think whatever you like, but the fact is, The Creator of DOA3, the guy who knows the game and PS2 capabilites alot better than you and I has said that it could not be done graphically on PS2. who do you think is right Team Ninja or you?


well, mi talking about the way it looks now, an incomplete game, on incomplete hardware...and even if it isnt possible on PS2, then who cares, because there really isnt too much of a leap of Teken Tag so far in visuals, IMO
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: datamage on June 08, 2001, 03:25:30 AM
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Thats nice, your allowed to Think whatever you like, but the fact is, The Creator of DOA3, the guy who knows the game and PS2 capabilites alot better than you and I has said that it could not be done graphically on PS2. who do you think is right Team Ninja or you?


Well, let\'s face it. Videogames are like politics nowadays. You can\'t trust what anyone says. I don\'t. And I don\'t care what the producer of DOA3 said. The LeMans creator said their game was impossible on PS2 back when it was only being released on DC. Guess what? The PS2 one is coming out and looking the same. Everyone is full of ****.


- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: fastson on June 08, 2001, 04:58:34 AM
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Originally posted by datamage


Well, let\'s face it. Videogames are like politics nowadays. You can\'t trust what anyone says. I don\'t. And I don\'t care what the producer of DOA3 said. The LeMans creator said their game was impossible on PS2 back when it was only being released on DC. Guess what? The PS2 one is coming out and looking the same. Everyone is full of ****.


- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.


Exacly!

Remeber Hideo Kojima??
He said you could only get alittle bit better graphics on the Xbox and GameCube??

Xbox fanboys didnt trust him.
Neither did GC fanboys..

Its the same now.. Only the other way around..

Im starting to doubt that what the developers say is true of false.

DoA3 could be done on PS2.. Im pretty sure of that..

VF4 looks almost as good.. and its gonna look better on PS2..
And we havent seen Tekken 4 yet.. :)

Wait and see!
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 08, 2001, 06:33:03 AM
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DoA3 could be done on PS2.. Im pretty sure of that..



In your dreams!!!! lol,lol
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: rastalant on June 08, 2001, 06:51:04 AM
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
of course, this is the guy who said HE maxed out the DC on DOA2.

hmmm, you gotta wonder about thse guys sometimes. Money under the table, perhaps?

Eric Jacob



I agree I don\'t know if  I believe this, but judging from the graphics on doa3 i think both systems would have a very hard time doing it.(Maybe even tone down graphics in some places)
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: datamage on June 08, 2001, 02:37:40 PM
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VF4 looks almost as good.. and its gonna look better on PS2..


I agree. I think VF4 looks amazing. And I was more impressed w/VF4 than DOA3. But hey, that\'s me. Everything is blown out of proportion nowadays and I\'m sick of it. I don\'t care who said what. The proof is in the pudding. I don\'t believe what anyone says, I rather decide for myself.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: QuDDus on June 08, 2001, 04:48:53 PM
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Originally posted by fastson


Exacly!

Remeber Hideo Kojima??
He said you could only get alittle bit better graphics on the Xbox and GameCube??

Xbox fanboys didnt trust him.
Neither did GC fanboys..

Its the same now.. Only the other way around..

Im starting to doubt that what the developers say is true of false.

DoA3 could be done on PS2.. Im pretty sure of that..

VF4 looks almost as good.. and its gonna look better on PS2..
And we havent seen Tekken 4 yet.. :)

Wait and see!



Well there  is different coming from a guy that wants you to buy his game on ps2. Doa3 is not going on ps2 and if it was I don\'t think team ninja would have said what they said, but sense it is xbox only they can speak the truth. Ps2 is powerful just not enought to handle doa3.

And I advise you to look at the doa3 screens again from a game fan point of view and not sony fan. And you see the difference between Doa3 and TTT.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgamespot.com%2Fgamespot%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fe3_2001%2Fvg%2Fxbox%2Fdoa3%2Fdeadoralive3_b2_screen006.jpg&hash=6faba134ae92d62b39998d7a106554a117aa0c3d)
Title: Some comments from Tecmo regarding DOA3...on PS2 + GC:
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 08, 2001, 04:53:05 PM
well...how abouts we all just wait for ingame shots, and in game footage, before we all pass judgement on what is sure to be a visually stunning game.