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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: AlteredBeast on June 06, 2001, 11:00:45 PM
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Give me some reasons on why you hate the companies you do.
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Acclaim.
When was the last time these jackoffs produced a good game? They may publish a few good ones now and then such as Crazy Taxi, but how long has it been since they have MADE a good game? Game sites still expect the games to be good when they are previewing them. They say things like "frame rate wil be increased and textures will be cleaned up" Bull****. Acclaim takes that as praise forgets to work on the game, releasing it as the massive **** pile it is.
Squaresoft.
***** at me if you love them. I love hearing people\'s reasons on why they love their dear old Square. why do I hate them, though? Fear of RPGs? can\'t stand their forever snubbing of anything Sega? no and no. My hatred lies in their supposed instant classic statues given to nearly any game upon announcement by Square. What happens when a game gets announced by Square? It goes on every most absent-minded wanted list in the country. You poor bastards waited so long for Bouncer. For what? a couple of hours of those great cinemas? nice. These creative geniuses pass off excellent cg as gameplay. and we all lapp it up like milk. mmmm, thanks Square! one more hour of FMV? thanks Square!! I just killed one sub-sub-sub boss of FFVwhothehellcaresIII, time for an hour of movietime! I can\'t believe the sales of Bouncer, Driving Emotion Type-S, and Chocobo Racing. It is a given that many are right back in the used section of that store, but year after year, as the games get less and less imaginative by them, they sell more and more. RENT BEFORE YOU BUY!
btw, flame me if you will. I have the absence of care in my body :) Square has sucked since FF7 IMO, it will remain that way until they
a)learn to make another rpg besides one with massive fmv of some sort. Vagrant Story was most excellent because those turds didn\'t put all that crap they normally do into it.
b)Get a true Chrono Trigger sequel. don\'t give this Chrono Crap. give me a break.
c) get a fecking life and make games for multiple consoles. I can\'t stand all these people who base their console buying based on one developer alone, Square. I understnad if it was EA, Sega, or Nintendo. but Square? :rolleyes:
EA.
Ruined PC gaming for everyone. They are the Microsoft of gaming. The NES of gaming, etc.
1) They are overrated. They have made updates to their games for years now, which they made well around 98. Then something went wrong...each year only brought along new modes, players, and stat updates! Oh no!
2) They bought up Origin and Looking Glass Studios. Makers of the was-glorious-before-EA Ultima series. And the other made Populous and Thief 1 and 2. They bought em out, and shut em down. Peter Molyneaux left EA, and right fully so, to create Lionhead. Lord British is leaving, along with his top programmers to form a new comapany. EA has ruined PC gaming.
3) They are full of themselves. They said a platofrm couldn\'t survive without them. Then NFL2K1 came out and stomped Madden\'s ass into the ground in terms of ratio buying game to userbase. Also, what is that they thing they had...oh yeah, online play! Maybe if EA had stuck with Sega even though Sega didn\'t pick the ****ty Black Belt versus the much more versatile and powerful Katana, they would\'ve have been able to make online games.
I hate EA. Those bastards are lucky they GET to publish the MoH games.
Nitendo.
Mario was fun. the first few times. Zelda was fun. The first few times. Metroid was fun. The first few times. do you see what I am getting at? Nintendo doesn\'t know how to make a new series. Their second parties do very little also in terms of coming up with new ideas. I am amazed they have differed their prospective launch as it is, being how many established, and horse beaten, most of the games are. Miyamto\'s mind is like a broken record. It just keeps skipping back to its starting place,every new generation. They get new technology = Miyamato sweats it to the oldies!
Nintendo - lose the kiddy appeal. make some fresh contet. and give me a grey shelled GBA with purple buttons dammit!
Now, everyone else can rant away.
Eric Jacob
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eh, i cant say any of those companies you said...except maybe acclaim
Square make repeatedly awesome RPG\'s IMO, and have number of awesome games in different genres too
EA, great, i love their sporst games as much as Segas, and other games
Nintendo...what they have done for the industry alone is reason enough not to hate them
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now, 989 on the otherhand...they started out with much promise, Syphon Filter was awesome, Syphon Filter 2 was awesome, 3 will prolly be lame due to its not being on PS2 and upgrading. but what they did to cool boarders and twistred metal is an outrage. plus, why did they put out such lame sports games so far on the PS2...bah, i hate them only because they screwed two great series\'
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Take2: No quality control X the bastardization of licences X iron fist control of developers imaginations X relentless pursuit of an improved bottomline despite the damage it does to the game and their image = one terrible company.
1/2 of Lucasarts: While a lot of their games are good, just about anything concerning the StarWars licence is nothing but rehashed BS in new packaging. Even Nintnedo dosen\'t compete with them in the "Beat a Dead Horse" catergory. Perhaps if they\'d just release more games unaffiliated with SW or at least put some more quality control into their games. Then again.. why should they. Anything with the SW label will sell.. they know that and they exploit that.
EA: Not so much for their games (which are a mixed bag of killer titles and aboslute crap) but for their arrogance and their loudmouthed representitives.
3DO: Do I even have to explain myself here?
Post Black Monday Sierra: For destroying not only their beloved franchises, but for destroying that precious bond they had with their fans. There once was a time when the developers of games would actually take the time out of their schedule to man the hint lines, and write letters to fans in their magazines telling us not only what was going on at the company.. but what was going on in their personal lives. They went the extra mile to really connect with the people playing their games.. as people not demographics. To a lot of people.. Molyneuex(sp?), Kojima, Romero, Suzuki, Miyamoto are gods in their field. Something above and beyond what we, the mere gamers, are. Al, Roberta, Ken, Lori, Mark, Scott, Jane, Christy... they made you feel they were like distant friends writing games just for you. All that changed after Yosemite, the birthplace of Sierra and arguably the computer game industry, was closed down and many of those talented "friends" were layed off without notice and the economy of Oakhurst left in ruins.
Why.. just because the new president didn\'t like the drive to Oakhurst. Ken would often spend 6 days a week traveling to the different facilities to oversee projects and to listen to the concerns of the programmers. It was out of love for the company, the games, and the fans that he did that. The new president, is more concerned with aquireing new companys to churn out unimaginative and mass market crap than keeping their relationship with their consumers strong. Of course, that\'s better buisness.. but it still hurts that a great company has been turned into the likes of EA or Eidos. The name might live on.. but everything that made Sierra great has died and been burnt to ash.
Sorry for the rant on the last one.. but I\'m still pissed about what happened. Just imagine if Sega decided to cut AM2, SonicTeam, Smilebit, and all their other divisions so that they could turn Shenmue into the next "Tomb Raider" clone and begin making games like "Pro Bull Rider" and EA-esqe Nascar games. *shudder*
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hmm, let\'s see.........3DO!!!@!!!!!!!@$!#$%^&^544789
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I can nominate 2
989 studios- I\'m nominating 989 for the same reason as bobby. i DID like syphon filter quite a bit, but one game won\'t win my respect. What DESTROYED my respect, is what they did firstly to coolboarders. Coolboarders 2 in my opinion is still among the BEST snowboarding games made, it\'s not too serious, in fact I\'ve heard a lot of people call it the ultimate snowboarding party game. But it was just VERY VERY playable, the controls were great, the courses were great, the overall game was great. Then in came 989, and thye RUINED it. I HATED coolboarders 3... and 4 was no testament to the series either. When I found out that UEP was doing Coolboarders 2001 I was ecstatic..... but then later on when i more CORRECTLY found out that 989 were actually doing it.... GAH, i was unimpressed to say the least. Then there\'s twisted metal..... what a shambles is all I can say . 989... it\'s just not cricket folks
Titus- I think this speaks for itself. Titus really don\'t have much of a clue when it comes to gaming in my opinion. A prime example of titus in full gear, is Superman 64 *shudders*
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Rare: Rare\'s games are touted to be great. But look at Rare\'s situation! They practically make the only decent N64 software besides Nintendo themselves. Rare has been around years before N64, and no one heard of them then. Rare is a mediocre developer that achieved status by having no competition. Now that NGC has more decent third party support, I think Rare will fall into the shadows of Capcom, Namco and other truly good developers.
Sega: Long history of screwing loyal fans right up the arse. Is so effective at it that those very fans don\'t even know it. Or maybe those fans are so used to it that they don\'t care anymore. But they do make some decent games. Ask me again in a year.
989: They f[/i]ucked up Gameday. I hope they all die painfully.
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Sony, Nintendo, Sega, Square, Rare, EA, Namco, Activision.
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Originally posted by Vulcan Raven
Sony, Nintendo, Sega, Square, Rare, EA, Namco, Activision.
Is there any other company which is not owned by one of this companies? ;)
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3DO:
Because they exist. That is reason enough to hate them.
EA:
Yearly updates. I mean, I can understand it to an extent, but in general I think they are massively over-rated.
989:
For buterching every series they touched.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
3DO:
Because they exist. That is reason enough to hate them.
I think it is established that everyone here hates 3DO, but my question here is. How does 3DO stay afloat and not go bankrupt like it rightfully should.
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AFTER seeing this thread i couldn\'t click on the link fast eonough just to say..........
3DO...........
Little Green plastic blobs of crap are the order of the day for 3DO..........
the reason why 3DO are still here ?
well someone mustbe buying their games........
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3D0
Instead of helping PS2 gain its confidence it just pulls it down.
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Which ones suck the most? This should be easy and quick.
3DO- because their name is 3D0
EA-because Visual Conepts ownz their asses
Titus- for litering the N64 with crappy games
Overrated developers:
Square: I agree 100% with what Altered said.
Konami- All they got is Metal Gear, but yet Sony fanboys consider Hideo to be "god". He is no god, look at ZOE.
Sega: They\'re innovative, but they\'re games are only descent. They should focus more on gameplay than to try to make everything so damn different all the time. They\'ve done enough of that already.
And now on to my usual nit picking.
Miyamto\'s mind is like a broken record. It just keeps skipping back to its starting place,every new generation.
May I remind you that Sega does this too. PS, Sonic, VF, 2K series, and more sequals like Panzie Dragoon and Jet Set Future.
Miyamoto is pretty creative too! He walks outside in his garden and that becomes a games. Try that Susuki! He walks around Toykio and makes a cheap games about it and doesn\'t know what the title will mean yet.
Bah, I\'m too tired to continue. Hooray for laziness! Makes the brain no move. :)
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"I think it is established that everyone here hates 3DO, but my question here is. How does 3DO stay afloat and not go bankrupt like it rightfully should." - Phil
I saw a T-shirt once that probably answers your question. It was all black except for white lettering that said... "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."
Nuff Said.
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Titus. \'Nuff said.
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And if that\'s not enough said, here\'s some more:
While I\'ll admit to being the only guy alive to enjoy Superman 64 (mostly the flying levels, those were trippy with all the rings and I was awesome at them), possibly just because I got it for free, the fact is they have consistently churned out crap over recent years.
Also, to the one who started this topic: choosing companies like Nintendo, EA, and Square was definitely surprising.
Acclaim was not so shocking as they\'ve been behind Mortal Kombat ever since the third in the series, Mortal Kombat: Suckality or whatever they called it. ;] That\'s just one of the many fine gems from Acclaim, but at least they fend off the title \'Ack-lame\' with stuff like Turok and ASB, right?
Oh, and one more thing:
[EA is] the Microsoft of gaming. The NES of gaming, etc.
Both those things already are of gaming...
-Eik
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You don\'t know what I was disguising there, do you?
I mean they are the Microsoft and NES\'s of the gaming world because they bully their way into things and they are over-confident, over-rated, and their is nothing most people can do about it, until now with Sega Sports.
I was talking business my boy, business.
Eric Jacob
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989 they destroyed the integrity of
- Twisted Metal
- Cool Boarders
- Gameday
- Gamebreaker
While I do love Syphon Filter 1 & 2, someone here told me they didn\'t develop it but only published.
I like Square; one of the greatest games ever made is easily Final Fantasy Tactics
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I hate when I come to these making fun of companys thread because some idiot always mentions square. You act like they are not allowed to have one or two bad games, and FF8 and FF9 were awesome, FF7 wasnt the last good RPG they made
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989 Studios, do i have to give a reason, they have been stated already :D
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FINAL FANTASY TACTICS RULES EVERYONES WORLD.
Finally someone agrees with me.
You can have your FF7 and your measly 40 hours of play time.
Ill take my FFT with its 80 hours of gameplay anyday.
HA!
TAKE THAT!
WORD!
(sorry emp.)
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Konami- All they got is Metal Gear, but yet Sony fanboys consider Hideo to be "god". He is no god, look at ZOE
Castlevania series, Suikoden, Vandal Hearts (@ least the 1st one), TMNT games, Gradius series, Parodius series, Axelay, Contra series (besides the crap Appaloosa made) and many more that I forgot. So all that they have is not Metal Gear.
My hatred lies in their supposed instant classic statues given to nearly any game upon announcement by Square.
You should hate their blind and loyal fans, not Square.
- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
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Konami- All they got is Metal Gear, but yet Sony fanboys consider Hideo to be "god". He is no god, look at ZOE
Konami a bad game company? Yeah, that\'s funny. Big thanks to datamage for posting the reasons so I don\'t have to.
Anyway, I think 3DO should die. They suck.
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Originally posted by 182Ways
Konami a bad game company? Yeah, that\'s funny. Big thanks to datamage for posting the reasons so I don\'t have to.
Anyway, I think 3DO should die. They suck.
Your funny.
Can\'t I have a ****ing opinion? Exactly. I personally don\'t like Konami and think they\'re overrated. This thread was all about who we think were the worst and overrated, I thought people would be clever enough to realize that, but again, the intelligence level of these forums just aren\'t what they used to be.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Your funny.
Can\'t I have a ****ing opinion? Exactly. I personally don\'t like Konami and think they\'re overrated. This thread was all about who we think were the worst and overrated, I thought people would be clever enough to realize that, but again, the intelligence level of these forums just aren\'t what they used to be.
I personally don\'t give a damn what your opinion is, but the reason you gave for it was laughable. Let\'s take a look back...
All they got is Metal Gear, but yet Sony fanboys consider Hideo to be "god". He is no god, look at ZOE
But then that was proved wrong with this...
Castlevania series, Suikoden, Vandal Hearts (@ least the 1st one), TMNT games, Gradius series, Parodius series, Axelay, Contra series (besides the crap Appaloosa made) and many more that I forgot. So all that they have is not Metal Gear.
Get the point? I didn\'t think so.
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I thought people would be clever enough to realize that, but again, the intelligence level of these forums just aren\'t what they used to be.
There\'s your mistake. You thought.
And it\'s you\'re.
- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
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It\'s there an echo in the building?
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I am gonna have go with Jumpman on this one, although He DID refute my point about Miyamato.
my point is that Sega eaves their franchises alone when they get od and/or crusty. Nintendo\'s mindset is that if the mass populaton of their audience, IE- 13 year old boys, like the games, they will continue to release the titles.
Sega is not a great business though, as it seems as they dont really care if they lose money too much.
Really though, respect other people\'s opinons! We get jackasses in here who call anybody with a distaste for recycled RPGs an idiot. thanks Bozco, you are obivously a respected member of the board.
Eric Jacob
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my point is that Sega eaves their franchises alone when they get od and/or crusty.
That is oh so true. Naka said he refuses to do a Nights 2 for the fact that it might not be as great as the first one. :( We all want it though..
- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.