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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Eiksirf on June 09, 2001, 06:23:03 AM
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I believe it was EGM that first (pre-E3) rumored a secret Miyamoto game codenamed Piki. Dead on the mark, right? Well in the same breath, they also hinted at Sonic appearing as a hidden character in Super Smash Brothers: Melee. Couple that with quotes (from the top of my head) like "If you\'re a fan of the Sonic Team, you\'ll want to buy a GCN" and you could really have something.
Anyway, it\'s a pretty weak rumor right now, but I\'ll be damned if this news doesn\'t bring out the coolest feeling I\'ve felt about videogames since I was 13. I hope something comes from this rumor, because the idea of having Sonic and Mario beat the living hell out of each other is too good to pass up...
This brings up two questions, though. Would Nintendo do this assuming they might have to pay Sega royalties or would there be some other kind of agreement? And... if they can get Sonic, why can\'t they buy off the rights to throw Crash Bandicoot in there, too? That would be something.
-Eik
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Buy of the rights to Crash Bandicoot? I think Microsoft got them... along with Spyro, and Oddworld.
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Yeah microsoft has Crash and Oddworld i don\'t know about Spyro, and altough it would be cool to see a game with all those characters it is highly unlikely.
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Microsoft doesn\'t have Crash or Spyro because Crash is going to PS2 and GameCube and Spyro is is coming out for the GBA within a week.
Anyhoo, imagine how that would sell systems. Sonic and Mario together? GameCube would get a lot more popular just because of that.
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Sorry my bad. I don\'t know what i was thinking
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Sonic as a secret character in a game, making GC more popular? Perhaps, but I highly doubt that Sonic will make an appear on many games - and even the one you mentioned in the new game, eik, might be just a "honour-visit" of the most vicious enemy of Mario ;)
But, Sonic is coming to GBA, so I believe it could make a larger appearance on GC as well.
Who knows? Let the future show us.
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doesn\'t phase me a bit
I find Mario and Sonic very tired characters. I enjoyed Sonic more then Mario. But neither does a single thing for me
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hey i don\'t think it would be bad - i mean people have been wanting to pair these two up in a video game for as long as they have existed
i don\'t know about it selling a lot more systems but it might make some sega/sonic fans reconsider a purchase
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I\'d rather not see Sonic on any console platform, but merely as a mascot for Sega. However, if he goes to ANY platform.. I think it should be Nintnedo. Somehow, it just seems natural that those two (Mario & Sonic) should be in a game together. Call it nostalgia.. or whatever. That\'s just the way it seems to me.
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I totally agree with sonyfan on this one. True it should go to nintendo, but appearing in the same game...not right. Id like to see them as rivals on the same platform though.
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And like ddaryl said, many people are tired with Mario and Sonic, and I highly doubt that Sonic\'ll effect on the sales of GC.
To some, it\'s perhaps cool to see two ex-rivals ( lol - I remember the days of Sega and Nintendo ;) ) in same platform, but it\'s quite twisted humour from Nintendo to put them in the same game to bash each other.
As I do remember the endless debates with my friends about whom would win, Sonic or Mario, if they would fight :)
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Heh, what fight Darth? Sonic would win, easy. What\'s Mario going to do?? Sonic is just too damned fast, and would slice that fat boy up like a day old lasangia before he could say "Mama Mia, that hurta likea mother****er!"
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nah, i reckon mario would win. How???
Princess toadstool comes in... confronts mario about not saving her, instead fighting sonic. Goes for the chair shot, then BAM, she turns ala wrestling and smacks sonic upside the head.
Maybe not, but she\'d pull a pretty decent slap on him.
On topic, I agree with sonyfan, and bobby. It just wouldn\'t be right for them to feature in a game together, but I think if it HAS to be done, then do it in a fighting game. That way it\'s not down to platforming, which they both deserve to shine on their own at. If you get what I mean.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Anyhoo, imagine how that would sell systems. Sonic and Mario together? GameCube would get a lot more popular just because of that.
Well coming from a kiddy stand point yes. Kids would have the best of both worlds right at their hands.
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- Sonic could and would kick Mario\'s ass.
- MS does not have the rights to Crash. Infact, two months ago , EGM had a huge article on the PS2 verison of Crash.
- It would be a huge selling point, but only if he wasn\'t a secert character. People need to know Sonic is there from the start, and not some huge secert. Just my opinion.
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Originally posted by XBOX
Well coming from a kiddy stand point yes. Kids would have the best of both worlds right at their hands.
THe makers of the Xbox would give their left foot to have a match up like this on their console. Two of the MOST popular video game characters ever in the same game!! This game could sell a lot more copies just for the nostalgia alone; but one thing is certain, if this is a true rumor the game WILL sell more copies than it would have otherwise.
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Originally posted by XBOX
Well coming from a kiddy stand point yes. Kids would have the best of both worlds right at their hands.
So let\'s see - only kids like Mario and Sonic? That\'s one of the more idiotic...
-Eik
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Originally posted by XBOX
Well coming from a kiddy stand point yes. Kids would have the best of both worlds right at their hands.
i see...well, it seams to me like you grew up playing games on the PSX, or PC. First of all, its not just \'kids\' who like these games. And what exactly defines the age cut off, or maturity cut off of a \'kid\'?
ugh...just saw what Eik put, and...yeah, he pretty much just summed it up :) well done. Dont come into a VIDEOGAME forums touting off stuff that ony kids like mario and sonic.
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Damn you guys are so sensative I see that mario and sonic is a touchy subject.
I mean sure when I was a little kid I grew up on mario and sonic, but they whole concept of those type of games are made for kids.
I mean if I was a lame teenager or adult yes I would still find kiddy games like those entertaining. You can\'t tell me the whole concept of saving mushroom headS and furry animals is not kiddy.
And BOB look at the characters and concept of the game and tell me that mario and sonic was made for and age of 14 and over. Stop runing on your emotions. Just because I see sonic and mario as being for kids does not mean you will or anyone else. You or whoevers interpetation of child-adult orentated material maybe be different.
I also feel sesame street is for kids. Wanna challenge me on that opinon too?
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"they whole concept of those type of games are made for kids."
There\'s a difference between "for \'kids\'" and "for everyone."
"I mean if I was a lame teenager or adult yes I would still find kiddy games like those entertaining. You can\'t tell me the whole concept of saving mushroom headS and furry animals is not kiddy."
In this bit you manage to take some of the finest work in videogame development and reduce it to something that makes no sense at all. You clearly don\'t have a concept of what makes a good game. If, by lame adult you mean someone who is not superficial, shallow, and apparently blind as well, then you\'re right on.
"look at the characters and concept of the game and tell me that mario and sonic was made for and age of 14 and over."
Ever hear the phrase "ages 8 to 80"? In a related query, do you have some sort of complex about liking something that other age groups might also enjoy?
"Just because I see sonic and mario as being for kids does not mean you will or anyone else."
Oh, look, and you\'re a hypocrite, too.
"I also feel sesame street is for kids. Wanna challenge me on that opinon too?"
Sesame Street is designed to, among other things, teach children numbers. Mario and Sonic is designed to offer a fun time for everyone (i.e. ages 8 to 80). So as weird as it sounds to say, you\'re right here, but let\'s not lose sight of the fact that you\'re wrong everywhere else.
I imagine you\'ll reply something like this: "Well, it\'s my opinion." That\'s nice, but while it\'s a little harsh to say, my opinion is better.
-Eik
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
"they whole concept of those type of games are made for kids."
There\'s a difference between "for \'kids\'" and "for everyone."
"I mean if I was a lame teenager or adult yes I would still find kiddy games like those entertaining. You can\'t tell me the whole concept of saving mushroom headS and furry animals is not kiddy."
In this bit you manage to take some of the finest work in videogame development and reduce it to something that makes no sense at all. You clearly don\'t have a concept of what makes a good game. If, by lame adult you mean someone who is not superficial, shallow, and apparently blind as well, then you\'re right on.
"look at the characters and concept of the game and tell me that mario and sonic was made for and age of 14 and over."
Ever hear the phrase "ages 8 to 80"? In a related query, do you have some sort of complex about liking something that other age groups might also enjoy?
"Just because I see sonic and mario as being for kids does not mean you will or anyone else."
Oh, look, and you\'re a hypocrite, too.
"I also feel sesame street is for kids. Wanna challenge me on that opinon too?"
Sesame Street is designed to, among other things, teach children numbers. Mario and Sonic is designed to offer a fun time for everyone (i.e. ages 8 to 80). So as weird as it sounds to say, you\'re right here, but let\'s not lose sight of the fact that you\'re wrong everywhere else.
I imagine you\'ll reply something like this: "Well, it\'s my opinion." That\'s nice, but while it\'s a little harsh to say, my opinion is better.
-Eik
LOL it is funny how you said ages 8-80. Now that is funny, but hey that is the way you feel and I am not going to knock it. But I see you don\'t understand the difference.
I mean look at sonic. He saves little animals and he is a blue hedge hog. He spins and he zipes throuh worlds. Althogh it maybe fun. That does not mean that the game is not orentated to kids.
I thought that shrek was a all around fun movie, but it was packedge and presented and marketed and developed as a kiddy movie.
See my point now. I am not in know way trying to mock the level of fun in those type of games, but they are what they are. Child like games. The level of content in those games is G rated , but that does not stop them from being fun.
And I take back the lame comment. It was uncalled for. I admit that.
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Originally posted by XBOX
LOL it is funny how you said ages 8-80. Now that is funny, but hey that is the way you feel and I am not going to knock it. But I see you don\'t understand the difference.
I mean look at sonic. He saves little animals and he is a blue hedge hog. He spins and he zipes throuh worlds. Althogh it maybe fun. That does not mean that the game is not orentated to kids.
I thought that shrek was a all around fun movie, but it was packedge and presented and marketed and developed as a kiddy movie.
See my point now. I am not in know way trying to mock the level of fun in those type of games, but they are what they are. Child like games. The level of content in those games is G rated , but that does not stop them from being fun.
And I take back the lame comment. It was uncalled for. I admit that.
ehh, 8 or 80, you still have to look at the controller to find the buttons. You are also amazed by shiny graphics and drool a lot
and i disagree that shrek was orientated at kids. the look might seem childish but kids would get, nor would they laugh at half the **** thats in that movie. HEHE its a talking donkey, hehe *phart*
duhhh, in Sonic you have to collect rings and progress through levels, duhhh, in doom you have to collect keys and progress through levels. Ill tell you whats a game designed for kid, The Adventures of Cookies & Cream (i was stuck for things to come up with, but its still plausible). Mario and Sonic are designed for all ages. I know some games are designed specifically for adults over 18, such as Kingpin: Life of Crime, but does that mean every other game, NOT aimed specifically at adults is specifically aimed at children?
Kingpin: Aimed a adults
Mario: Aimed at everyone
Cookies & Cream: Aimed at kids
if a game is aimed at everyone, that means its fun for kids ages 8, but is also fun for adults...thats what Sonic and Mario are. Dont be an ignorant fool
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I mean look at sonic. He saves little animals and he is a blue hedge hog. He spins and he zipes throuh worlds. Althogh it maybe fun. That does not mean that the game is not orentated to kids.
I thought that shrek was a all around fun movie, but it was packedge and presented and marketed and developed as a kiddy movie.
See my point now.
Yea, I do, and it makes a lot more sense here. (Although I think you\'ve also watered down your point from earlier. ;))
My point, however, is that while a game like this is "oriented towards kids" it is, at the same time, oriented towards the rest of gamers as well. Bobs_Hardware talks about this just above me...
Off topic, I\'d like to say thank you for letting this thread actually develop rather than turn into a flame war. These boards are top notch in that respect.
-Eik
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Well, now that Sega is pulling the plug on console production and going strictly software, anything is possible.