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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Bladez on June 09, 2001, 06:38:07 PM
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Here\'s the whole article from ps2.ign.com:
Japanese developer Yuke\'s has an extremely nice office. Most independent development houses over there don\'t have quite such posh accomodations, nor do they reside in such expensive parts of town (in this case, one of the more pleasant areas of Yokohama). But then again, most such developers haven\'t produced two million-selling blockbuster games, either.
From what we saw when we visited that office, it looks like that streak will continue. WWF SmackDown! Just Bring It (the game formerly known as SmackDown! 3) is not a substantial reworking or rethinking of the series, but it includes the same gameplay that has been so popular on the PlayStation, and not only is the new hardware enabling a remarkable leap forward in visual presentation, new game modes are made available by the PS2\'s graphical power. The biggest of all questions remains to be answered -- no, we don\'t know whether you can do the 3D through a table -- but this should still be a fine kickoff for the PlayStation 2\'s wrestling library.
The wrestler models were primarily what we were shown just before the Tokyo Game Show, animating within preliminary versions of the SmackDown, RAW, and pay-per view arenas, including a stadium patterned after the one that hosted Wrestlemania XVII. Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock were the only wrestlers complete enough to show, although they could perform animations specific to several other characters -- as those who tinkered around with SmackDown! 2\'s create-a-stable mode can attest, watching them dance like Too Cool was pretty entertaining.
Just standing still, though, they\'re impressive enough, with 800 polygons making up each wrestler\'s body and 500 for just the head. That will allow complex facial animations, from smiles to grimaces to, yes, the People\'s Eyebrow, adding up to a total of 1,000 different animations. Just Bring It is also the first SmackDown to incorporate motion-captured animation, although it will mainly be used for more natural movements -- walking, idle animations, and the like -- rather than wrestling moves. As you can see from the shots below, that animation will be matched by considerable smoothness of texturing and modeling in each character. Skin tones are more realistic, and there\'s more depth to musculature and other physical features. They\'re not just textured on anymore, but properly drawn in 3D. The engine handles all of this with ease, though, kicking the framerate up to a clean 60fps as compared to the PlayStation games\' 30.
Similar improvements have been made in the arenas, which have always been one of SmackDown!\'s strong points. Built with 3 times as many polygons (6,000 total), they are more expansive, more animated, and more interactive, especially with regards to lighting. The huge lighting rig above the ring appeared in the PlayStation games, but on PS2 it will direct many more complex realtime lighting effects. The upper reaches of the arenas are also modeled with greater detail, including animating crowds and billboards up in the cheap seats. Below, the character-specific signs and other tailored elements of the environment will return, and hopefully the ringside environment will become more interactive. The developers are looking to include more elements along the lines of the announcers\' tables in SmackDown! 2 -- hopefully, there will be even more items to break and fly off of around the ring.
Of course, if you want out-of-the-ring mayhem, you can always head a little farther away. Just Bring It will include a full complement of backstage areas, with the same kind of interactive environments that appeared in SmackDown! 2, and they will all be linked together, allowing hardcore and falls-count-anywhere matches to progress through a series of rooms and areas. The current listing of accessible areas is as follows:
SmackDown! Arena
Outside Lobby
Plaza
RAW Is War Arena
PPV Arenas
Parking Garage
Boiler Room
WWF New York
WWF Times Square
Entrances into the arena are likely to be expanded in comparison to the PlayStation games. Many fans have asked for something more realistic than the superimposition of characters over FMV, and Yuke\'s is hoping to oblige by integrating that FMV into the 3D arena for the complete entrance experience.
That would be a tall order, considering the number of wrestlers included, especially since every character is going to demand much more modeling time. That\'s likely why the wrestler list has contracted in comparison to the PlayStation games, although the listing we have is preliminary -- the figure we\'re given for the final version is "35 to 50."
WCW wrestlers are a possibility, but that decision is in the hands of the suits, not the developers. Even if they don\'t appear, though, you can create them or any other character from a selection of more than 1,000 edit parts. That\'s not as many as SmackDown! 2 (which had 2,500), but it\'s still a substantial array of cosmetic options, and those options will be made available by an improved GUI, with more animating elements and other nifty stuff.
Created and licensed wrestlers can compete in a total of 67 different match types, counting all the different combinations of matches and stipulations. That figure is rather stretching it, but there\'s still an awful lot of different possibilities, including six-man matches and eight-man battle royales (although only four human players are supported as yet). The Royal Rumble should be much closer to the real-life mayhem, too. Table and TLC matches are included for those of a garbagey bent, and the developers are hoping (as we are) that the table-breaking mechanics will be a little more versatile than before. No changes in that area are confirmed, however.
SmackDown! Just Bring It, as with SmackDowns past, is guaranteed to spawn its share of mysteries while it goes through development. The Season mode, for example, is still a very big question mark, although it\'s one of the areas most in need of improvement (you wouldn\'t believe the number of players who couldn\'t even get their wrestlers in a match in that mode). We can be fairly sure, however, that it will live up to the standards of presentation set in the first two games -- though they were both in need of improvement, they were leaps ahead of the competition in terms of realism and gameplay. Check back in a couple of days for the latest news from E3, where we\'ll get a new look at what Yuke\'s and THQ have in store.
-- David Smith
Well I have pictures too but you guys have seen them already.
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Thanks bladez,
RIW want even have a freaking Ladder Match, tHQ is calling it a "BASE" game.
But Smackdown is going to rulezzzzz.
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D4mn right. I can\'t wait for this game!! :cool:
If ya smell what The Rock is cookin\'.
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there is quite a chance that this game is going to rule. I never played Smackdown two, but we quite often get out the original for a quick royal rumble every now and then
i really hope they do incrporate proper double team moves like a 3d through the table, Poetry in Motion, that APA powerbomb where farooq hits them on their way down...those sorts of moves would make the game great
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You really should get SD!2.
It has tons more characters than the original SD!, tons more moves, more backstage arenas, mor interactivity with the surroundings (ie: throwing someone into the ring steps and then being able to use them as a weapon, ring announcers tables), and the extra matches are worth it alone.
The only down side besides the somewhat dissappoining Season mode is the sometimes horrendous load times.
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
You really should get SD!2.
It has tons more characters than the original SD!, tons more moves, more backstage arenas, mor interactivity with the surroundings (ie: throwing someone into the ring steps and then being able to use them as a weapon, ring announcers tables), and the extra matches are worth it alone.
The only down side besides the somewhat dissappoining Season mode is the sometimes horrendous load times.
should i get it even though Smackdown3 is coming out soon enough?
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Well it depends on how soon SD!3 is coming out. I got it the day it was released [SD!2] and its been entirely worth it.
But if SD!3 is right around the corner, I don\'t know. Its probably a PSX Greatest Hits by now so if you\'ve got $20 to blow, go for it.
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You know how Australia is bobby, SD!3 won\'t be here till you turn 39 (next year). This is sounding like a damn awesome game, I\'ve seen the bulk of that report before, except haven\'t read the end before.
Smackdown 1 and 2 were pretty good, but by the time I played them, i was already used to the control scheme of the other THQ wrestling games on N64. It was surprising they developed wrestling games with such radically different appearances and paly mechanics on different systems, whereas acclaim just kept the same formula for both platforms.
Nontheless, i\'m extremely high on this game (not literally), and it\'s a definite purchase for me when it comes out
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Originally posted by tHe GaMe
Thanks bladez,
RIW want even have a freaking Ladder Match, tHQ is calling it a "BASE" game.
But Smackdown is going to rulezzzzz.
Well I don\'t know why they haven\'t made the famous Inferno Match. Maybe no one cares about it.
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Originally posted by Bladez
Well I don\'t know why they haven\'t made the famous Inferno Match. Maybe no one cares about it.
They can\'t put an Inferno Match into SD!3 because UPN 13 won\'t let them put it on TV so since SmackDown! is on UPN they won\'t allow it in the game either.
Or something like that.
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Here are some pictures! Sorry but I couldn\'t get them to post on here. But here\'s the links.
http://viewer.ign.com/media_page.jsp?width=720&height=486&media=http://ps2media.ign.com/media/e32001/image/thq/wwfsmackdown/bg2.jpg&media_type=N&object_id=35005&adtag=size%3D468x60%26genre%3Dwrestling%26network%3Dign%26category%3Dps2%26site%3Dps2&ign_section=17&media_name=Title+screen
http://viewer.ign.com/media_page.jsp?width=720&height=486&media=http://ps2media.ign.com/media/e32001/image/thq/wwfsmackdown/bg5.jpg&media_type=N&object_id=35005&adtag=size%3D468x60%26genre%3Dwrestling%26network%3Dign%26category%3Dps2%26site%3Dps2&ign_section=17&media_name=Menu+screen
I hope these work. I might have one of the arena here pretty soon.
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Well here it is! Well sort of.
http://viewer.ign.com/media_page.jsp?width=500&height=394&media=http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/smack/smack_10.jpg&media_type=P&object_id=15128&adtag=network%3Dign%26site%3Dps2%26adchannel%3Dps2%26pagetype%3Darticle&ign_section=17&media_name=Entrance+ramp
And the backstage.
http://viewer.ign.com/media_page.jsp?width=500&height=394&media=http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/smack/smack_4.jpg&media_type=P&object_id=15128&adtag=network%3Dign%26site%3Dps2%26adchannel%3Dps2%26pagetype%3Darticle&ign_section=17&media_name=Backstage
And here\'s the current WWF Roster and Match Opitions.
The Rock
Stone Cold Steve Austin
Triple H
The Undertaker
Kurt Angle
Kane
Chris Jericho
Big Show
Rikishi
Chris Benoit
Edge
Christian
Buh Buh Ray Dudley
D-Von Dudley
Matt Hardy
Jeff Hardy
Lita
Billy Gunn
Chyna
William Regal
Tazz
Raven
Steven Richards
The Goodfather
Ivory
Grand Master Sexay
Scotty 2 Hotty
Hardcore Holly
Crash Holly
Molly Holly
Dean Malenko
Perry Saturn
Eddy Guerrero
Faarooq
Bradshaw
Test
Albert
Trish Stratus
Michael Cole
Vince McMahon
Stephanie McMahon
Shane McMahon
Earl Hebner
1. Single Match - No Manager
2. Single Match - With Manager
3. Tag Match - Normal
4. Tag Match - With Manager
5. Tag Match - Tornado Tag
6. Six-Man Tag Match - Normal
7. Six-Man Tag Match - Tornado Six-Man
8. Handicap - One on Two
9. Handicap - One on Tag
10. Handicap - One on Three
11. Royal Rumble
12. King of the Ring - Normal
13. King of the Ring - "Amazing"
14. Hardcore - Single
15. Hardcore - Tornado Tag
16. Hardcore - Tornado Six-Man
17. Hardcore - Triple Threat Tornado Tag
18. Hardcore - One on Two
19. Hardcore - One on Three
20. Hardcore - Triple Threat
21. Hardcore - Fatal Four-Way
22. Hardcore - Special Referee
23. Hardcore - Time-Limit Title Match
24. Falls Count Anywhere - Single
25. Falls Count Anywhere - Tornado Tag
26. Falls Count Anywhere - Tornado Six-Man
27. Falls Count Anywhere - Triple Threat Tornado Tag
28. Falls Count Anywhere - One on Two
29. Falls Count Anywhere - One on Three
30. Falls Count Anywhere - Triple Threat
31. Falls Count Anywhere - Fatal Four-Way
32. Falls Count Anywhere - Special Referee
33. Survival - Triple Threat
34. Survival - Fatal Four-Way
35. Survival - Lumberjack
36. Survival - Battle Royal (Six men)
37. Survival - Battle Royal (Eight men)
38. Cage - Single
39. Cage - Tornado Tag
40. Cage - Triple Threat
41. Cage - Fatal Four-Way
42. Hell in a Cell - Single
43. Hell in a Cell - Tornado Tag
44. Hell in a Cell - Triple Threat
45. Hell in a Cell - Fatal Four-Way
46. I Quit - Single
47. Special Referee - One Referee
48. Special Referee - Two Referee
49. Ladder - Single
50. Ladder - Tornado Tag
51. Ladder - Triple Threat
52. Ladder - Fatal Four-Way
53. Table - Single
54. Table - Tornado Tag
55. Table - Triple Threat
56. Table - Fatal Four-Way
57. TLC - Single
58. TLC - Tornado Tag
59. TLC - Triple Threat
60. TLC - Fatal Four-Way
61. Slobberknocker
62. Iron-Man - Single
63. Iron-Man - Special Referee
64. TLC for Title - Single
65. TLC for Title - Tornado Tag
66. TLC for Title - Triple Threat
67. TLC for Title - Fatal Four-Way
Well that\'s it for right now. As before I hope the links work, sorry if they don\'t.:crap:
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Yes, I made it into the game!!!!
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
Yes, I made it into the game!!!!
:laughing:
Yeah, your old friend Road Dogg won\'t be there since he was caught :smokin: some weed.
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Originally posted by Bladez
:laughing:
Yeah, your old friend Road Dogg won\'t be there since he was caught :smokin: some weed.
*sniff* *sniff*
I miss Road Dogg. :crying:
oh you didn\'t know?
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Here is some more wrestling news:
From DaRkGaMeR he says that HBK is Sarah\'s stalker?
Now, I read some sites and here is some news:
Kane is supposed to loose his mask.
The Undertaker going to his gothic theme again some time this year.
SCSA is going to turn face.
Mick Foley might wrestle in one more match.
Hardy Boyz are supposed to split.
WCW wrestlers have signed WWF contracts.
ECW\'s RVD and the WWF??
Rumor: Goldberg will not wrestle in the WWF at all??
There is more but, you have to find the websites.
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Originally posted by Bladez
Here are some pictures! Sorry but I couldn\'t get them to post on here. But here\'s the links.
I hope these work. I might have one of the arena here pretty soon.
this will save you guys the trip.... (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fe32001%2Fimage%2Fthq%2Fwwfsmackdown%2Fbg2.jpg&hash=c117c892ac749b60619a8cfeb163750777b9f8cc) and (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fe32001%2Fimage%2Fthq%2Fwwfsmackdown%2Fbg5.jpg&hash=cbf3fe9103c80b14051b4d58c139e949710662ab) there ya go bladez!
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these are the other pics..... (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fsmack%2Fsmack_10.jpg&hash=3db0ff40a91ab391a052d3967b289e495d716dc6) and (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fsmack%2Fsmack_4.jpg&hash=70a699c9945b8f271c6f3f15f477f2c00a7cde1a)
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Thanx a lot ajoh!!!:) There you are guys so you don\'t have to click the links ajoh might have some more pictures tomorrow!!!
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Originally posted by Bladez
Here is some more wrestling news:
From DaRkGaMeR he says that HBK is Sarah\'s stalker?
Now, I read some sites and here is some news:
Kane is supposed to loose his mask.
The Undertaker going to his gothic theme again some time this year.
SCSA is going to turn face.
Mick Foley might wrestle in one more match.
Hardy Boyz are supposed to split.
WCW wrestlers have signed WWF contracts.
ECW\'s RVD and the WWF??
Rumor: Goldberg will not wrestle in the WWF at all??
There is more but, you have to find the websites.
Heres what I think about those statements:
HBK Sarah\'s stalker? Maybe.
Kane losing his mask? Doubt it.
Undertaker turning gothic again? Doubt it. I think it would be cool though, but the fact is he\'s more popular now than he ever was as the pale skinned, satan worshiping, gothic Taker.
SCSA turning face again? Possibly. I would hate to see it happen (I don\'t like SCSA that much) though.
Mick Foley to wrestle in one more match? Highly possible.
Hardy Boyz to split? I hope not. We\'ve seen indications of a Hardyz break-up many times but they somehow always manage to stay together.
WCW to wrestle in WWF? I hope not. Most if not all WCW guys sucks.
ECW\'s RVD with WWF? Don\'t know what RVD means so I can\'t comment on that.
Goldberg not to wrestle in WWF? Probably true. Goldberg has insulted the WWF and Triple H in particular several times.
This is all live from the mind of Solid Snake 88.
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Originally posted by Bladez
Thanx a lot ajoh!!!:) There you are guys so you don\'t have to click the links ajoh might have some more pictures tomorrow!!!
don\'t worry bladez... I\'ll teach you how to do this...... then you can do this..... it\'s a peice of cake......
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yeah, the hardy boz will definately spiltt soon, its just like shaun michaels and marty janetty used to be. I really hp the \'taker goes gothic again, he was so much better. Kane will never loose his mask and SCSA should p**s offf!
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
Heres what I think about those statements:
ECW\'s RVD with WWF? Don\'t know what RVD means so I can\'t comment on that.
Rob Van Dam- Mr. Pay Per View- The Whole F\'N Show.
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Originally posted by Bladez
Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
Heres what I think about those statements:
ECW\'s RVD with WWF? Don\'t know what RVD means so I can\'t comment on that.
Rob Van Dam- Mr. Pay Per View- The Whole F\'N Show.
Oh, k thanks.
@ The_Rickster - Actually I disagree about the Hardyz. The Hardy Boyz came into the WWF as a team, they are tag team players, they have competed in some of the best matches ever as a team, plus they\'re brothers. It just wouldn\'t be right.
But yeah I agree about SCSA. He\'s old, lose him.
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Kane losing his mask would be cool, and a gothic Undertanker wouldn\'t displease me.
As for HBK being Undie\'s wife stalker- no chance. HBK has a SERIOUS back injury that forced him to retire and still plagues him today.
Well, I heard last year that the Hardyz would split. I wouldn\'t be surprised if they did but I don\'t really like them anyways.
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This game is going to rule.
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Well there are soon to be more pictures. Credit goes to ajoh432.
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Here\'s some cool pics (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fsmack%2Fsmack_9.jpg&hash=e29a3bfc150c77f410f9a64d6be857ed4ee93b01) (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fsmack%2Fsmack_7.jpg&hash=de0ff101f3f7c4219a3331ab2a185e3e9cb38094) (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fsmack%2Fsmack_5.jpg&hash=a6a0dffd89ddbc628ed8abfbfceee7c13b1958e7) (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fsmack%2Fsmack_8.jpg&hash=8e8eaadb83fc1d2fa29c6d0ddd6bbc54013eade9) there ya go guys!
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I am sure you knew this already but the release date is October or November. Nothing to report at this time. I will post if anything else new comes up.
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Here\'s the update guys:
After being quite awed by their general look, the characters moved amazingly well in all respects. The least life-like motions are, strangely enough, walking, but when the characters start actually wrestling one another, the movements are smooth, amazingly fast, and very responsive.
The only aspect of the game that was running was the Exhibition mode, in which two wrestlers start at each other, and then, after about one to two minutes, a third wrestler arrives in the scene, followed by a fourth, a few minutes later, a fifth, and then a few minutes later, a total of eight superstars are on screen simultaneously, wrestling each other in an all-out brawl, without any slowdown, or chop. The game can handle as many as nine players on screen at once. There is a story mode and a Create mode as well.
The moves are much like they were in the previous Smackdown games. Circle is grapple, Triangle is run and bounce off the ropes, X is hit or attack, and Square is block. Depending on which way you approach your opponent, the attacks perform different moves. There are literally dozens and dozens of moves per wrestler.
The game is going to be huge, not just in popularity or whatnot, but in terms of modes alone. A THQ rep said that there will be 30-50 wrestlers in the game, 10 backstage environments, and enables up to four users to play it at once. On top of that, the game features as many as 70 modes of play, including Ladder matches, Cage matches, hardcore, tag team, Texas Tornado, No Holds Bar, Anywhere, etc.
Lastly, we are told by THQ that the story mode will be greatly improved. THQ did not elaborate.
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Here\'s another update from gamespot:
WWF SmackDown! Just Bring It was playable at E3, with single and tag-team exhibition matches available during the demo. Kurt Angle, Lita, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, and The Undertaker were available, as were a handful of other wrestlers, each with his or her own move set and finishers. The characters we did see had photo-quality portraits and were depicted in a manner that was faithful to their current storylines and most recent images. The finishing moves were flashy, accompanied by close-ups and panning camera shots, as well as highly detailed animations.
Not having seen anything but concept art and stills before E3, we were impressed with the improvements that have been made to the character models, faces, and skin textures since SmackDown! 2: Know Your Role. The character faces were highly detailed and the body structures were impressively accurate, without much of the blockiness that permeated previous versions of the series\' character models. The graphics were still being smoothed out, but if what we\'ve seen is any indication, they should be incredible. The gameplay so far was nearly identical that of to Smackdown! 2, although the game is still in the early stages of development and many planned changes haven\'t been implemented yet. It was pleasing, however, to see the excellent character models duking it out at a steady clip, with no apparent slowdown.
WWF Smackdown! Just Bring It approaches the polish and presentation of the televised broadcasts by implementing a number of stunning features. In the final release, the finishing moves will be accompanied by a cut to the Titantron for a panoramic view of the move\'s execution. Cutscenes, run-ins, and other unscripted events will be used to great effect during the story mode, which we\'re told will be deeper and more involved than before.
Finally, commentary has come back to the WWF, in the form of Sunday Night Heat announcers Michael Cole and Tazz. During matches, a pop-up screen will reveal their discussions and facial expressions, which add considerably to the televised feel that the game is going for. The commentators will give you a play-by-play of the action, and of course using the announcers\' table during matches is fair game. So far, what we\'ve seen has been very impressive. We\'ll be sure to bring you more on WWF SmackDown! Just Bring It as it approaches completion.
And here\'s a picture I thought was cool:
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,469044-5,00.html