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Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Darth Joyda on June 10, 2001, 11:36:45 AM
Now, the question is simple. If Alien and Predator would fight, whom would win? The evil, wise and fast alien, or the mean hunter Predator?

Of course we have to count the fact that Aliens attack in group, and that Predator works alone ( well, not according to Predator II, but it\'s way more cooler when there\'s only one hunter ).

If you ask my honest opinion - I would have to say Predator. It has invincibility, weapons over Aliens and cunning intelligence. Predator is born to hunt. Aliens just defend their nest. Aliens would be an easy prey for Predator, as they would have no long-distance weapons - only the hands, tongue and tail - and getting near Predator is REALLY hard.

Now I want your opinion...
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Falcon4 on June 10, 2001, 11:42:05 AM
predator, most definately. he is built for the hunt. the aliens wouldnt be able to do sh!t to him :D

it would just be a "good night" for the nest:)
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on June 10, 2001, 11:48:40 AM
Predator for sure.
Weapons + stealth camo = lots of dead Aliens.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Darth Joyda on June 10, 2001, 11:48:53 AM
Now that I think of it... it could make one helluva cool movie :) And now if we just mix in pitiful marines... It would be blast-fest of the century ;)
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on June 10, 2001, 11:51:38 AM
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Now that I think of it... it could make one helluva cool movie :) And now if we just mix in pitiful marines... It would be blast-fest of the century ;)


Yeah it sure would.

I mean, there already is 1 Aliens vs. Predator game, and a sequel coming to PS2 in the future, so why not a movie?
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Darth Joyda on June 10, 2001, 11:55:32 AM
The sequel will be a must-buy. :)

But, think about it - if the characters can appear in the same game, then why not the same movie? ( and in Predator II, there was an honour-mention of Alien - as there was Alien\'s skull on Predator\'s \'trophy-shelf\' )

The movie would be shot from marine\'s point-of-view - and there would be LOTS of marines... Hundreds of them - but they get killed little by little...

Oh it would be SO cool...
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: nO-One on June 10, 2001, 11:59:32 AM
Predator,he smarter,has stealth,has more weapons,he\'s more handsome,and alot cooler than the aliens.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: kopking on June 10, 2001, 12:14:19 PM
yea the alien would nt even be able to see the predator, so how could they kill him, plus the aliens only protect the nest or get people and bring them back so a face hugger can attach itself and make more. but the predator couldnt use its infra red vision to see its heat, as in aliens the marines use it and cant see them. also if a alien did capture the pred he would just use the bomb on his arm so again the ealien loses.

but could you imagion if a face hugger got a predaor, imagion the alien that would be made, and yes it would change it. in alien 3 the alien is slightly different, fater etc, as it came out of a dog.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on June 10, 2001, 12:38:52 PM
Did you see that one in Alien Resurrection that was a Alien/Human hybrid?
Da-umn that was weird. It didn\'t even have the traditional Aliens second mouth, it just bit things.

Remember when I took a chunk out of that guys head?
Freaky sh1t.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: kopking on June 10, 2001, 12:53:16 PM
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88
Did you see that one in Alien Resurrection that was a Alien/Human hybrid?
Da-umn that was weird. It didn\'t even have the traditional Aliens second mouth, it just bit things.

Remember when I took a chunk out of that guys head?
Freaky sh1t.


yeah but thats differnt, as the face hugger had jumped on any one. becouse in a3 ripley had an alien in and killed herself when they had the dna taken from her it was contaiminated, it had alien andd human dna in it. thats why ripley has super strenght and the mother alien could give birth to an alien, and the baby was part of each, a whole new species, while the alien in 3 was almost identical to the original but took some characteristic of the dog
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Bladez on June 10, 2001, 04:33:49 PM
Obviously Predator.  The reasons above and strength.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 10, 2001, 05:24:54 PM
my vote went to the predator even though im a huge aliens fan (cept that damn 4th one, grr)

how about Predator vs. Queen Alien?

and it depends on the environement

and i really dont think the predators stealth como would help him, the aliens must have some sort of sixth sense ,they could find the predator if he/she/samwise was hiding
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Phil on June 10, 2001, 05:39:45 PM
I would still have to say predator would win against the alien queen .  Yes, the enviroment is a factor but IMO if it is a 1 on 1 situation predator would prevail.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: FackinKubuss on June 10, 2001, 05:43:50 PM
Yea I think the Preditor\'s stealth ability would help. Aliens are smart to us but to the Preditor they\'re probly the dumbest things in the world. Preditor would beat anything ever created in the whole world! He\'s the perfect fighter. He\'s close/long range and sniper all at once.

BTW did anyone see MTV\'s Crib\'s where that guy (think it was Joel Silver) had that statue of the Preditor? OMG I want one of those, thats like the coolest thing in the whole world!
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Phil on June 10, 2001, 05:46:26 PM
BTW are we going by movie abilities or game abilities.  It does make a difference.  I guess I\'m just picky about things.  Also it would cut a lot of confusion
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 10, 2001, 06:34:49 PM
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Originally posted by FackinKubuss
Yea I think the Preditor\'s stealth ability would help. Aliens are smart to us but to the Preditor they\'re probly the dumbest things in the world. Preditor would beat anything ever created in the whole world! He\'s the perfect fighter. He\'s close/long range and sniper all at once.


what the hell are you talking about, Arnold Schwarzewaggawagga beat him, and did it with relative ease, i might add

ive changed my mind, i now believe an Alien would win, due to the fact that the redators stealth is useless, and because the Predator couldnt see the Alien
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on June 10, 2001, 06:53:47 PM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware


what the hell are you talking about, Arnold Schwarzewaggawagga beat him, and did it with relative ease, i might add

plus, if you remember in liens, the aliens dont show up on infra red, meaning, the predator wouldnt be able to see the aliens...BWA HA HA, Aliens woulod beat him cause hed be blind towards them!!!


No actually he would either just change his visual type, or take off his mask. Its that simple.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 10, 2001, 07:05:56 PM
what makes the predator come to the conclusion that he should change his visual type?  obviously he has to know that he cant see the alien.  this takes time.  in that time, the alien would strike.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on June 10, 2001, 07:09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
what makes the predator come to the conclusion that he should change his visual type?  obviously he has to know that he cant see the alien.  this takes time.  in that time, the alien would strike.


True, true. You\'ve got me there, I\'ll give you that.

But then again, how did he know to change his visual type in Predator 2 when those people were wearing those suits and emitting those ultraviolet rays?

Forgive me if I\'m mistaking something, I haven\'t seen Predator 1 or 2 in a long time.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Lavan on June 10, 2001, 07:15:39 PM
Since Predator was beaten by Arnie, and then (shame of shames) messed around with by Danny Glover he\'d probably get his ass kicked by a bunch of \'Aliens\'.

That probably means Ellen Ripley could kick the Predator\'s ass too. :)
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 10, 2001, 07:45:29 PM
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88


True, true. You\'ve got me there, I\'ll give you that.

But then again, how did he know to change his visual type in Predator 2 when those people were wearing those suits and emitting those ultraviolet rays?

Forgive me if I\'m mistaking something, I haven\'t seen Predator 1 or 2 in a long time.


me either, and Predator 2 is just crap, so it shouldnt count for anything  :)

but how about this for an arguement...Predator wouldnt attack the alien, cause the alien is unarmed  :)
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on June 10, 2001, 07:46:53 PM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware


me either, and Predator 2 is just crap, so it shouldnt count for anything  :)

but how about this for an arguement...Predator wouldnt attack the alien, cause the alien is unarmed  :)


Another very valid point.
I always thought that part of the story was a little screwed up (the whole "they won\'t hurt you if you\'re unarmed thing).

But how is this for an argument, Alien can\'t attack the Predator because he can\'t see him. Unless, of course, he turned off his stealth camo. Which he wouldn\'t, because thats just stupid.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Lavan on June 10, 2001, 07:46:57 PM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
but how about this for an arguement...Predator wouldnt attack the alien, cause the alien is unarmed  :)


LOL good point!
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: ajoh432 on June 10, 2001, 08:53:23 PM
Predator - Camouflage is a really good thing to have.... without it predator is screwed in the butt hole.
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 10, 2001, 09:50:57 PM
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Originally posted by Solid Snake 88


Another very valid point.
I always thought that part of the story was a little screwed up (the whole "they won\'t hurt you if you\'re unarmed thing).

But how is this for an argument, Alien can\'t attack the Predator because he can\'t see him. Unless, of course, he turned off his stealth camo. Which he wouldn\'t, because thats just stupid.


ive already said this, its obvious the aliens have some sort of 6th sense.  Or ightened hearing or something.  How else do they know where the marines are, how else do they know where the ships crew, or the prisoners are?  they dont just guess.  I Believe the camoflague would be useless against the Aliens.  I cant remember off the top of my head if there was a reason given as to why they are such good hunters. Maybe they can smell blood, have extra senses like sharks do, they have something.

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Originally posted by ajoh432
Predator - Camouflage is a really good thing to have.... without it predator is screwed in the butt hole.


same goes for you buddy boy  :)
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Darth Joyda on June 10, 2001, 11:04:02 PM
First of all, Predator unarmed himself ( took all the blasters away and the helmet off ) to fight even, face-to-face with Schwarzenegger. Sportmanship.

And Aliens aren\'t unarmed. They\'re armed with their deadly claws and tail - and they use them as weapons.

But, if Predator would take the helmet off, he would be as vulnerable as a marine - as without the helmet, Predator can\'t use the the invincibility-stealth-mode.

So - it would be one mean fight. And aliens ARE fast - so I\'m turning onto their side as well..
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Ashford on June 11, 2001, 09:32:10 AM
Predators are in no way invincible. Watch either Predator movie.

Aliens are in no way stupid or less smarter than Predators. Watch Aliens.

Aliens would sacrfice their own to protect the nest, defeat their opponents, and ensure their survival. Watch Alien: Ressurection.

Even though Aliens don\'t emit heat, Predators have different visions to see them, clearly. Play A vs P on the PC.

When Facehuggers impregnate, the embryo can control the host. Watch Alien:Ressurection and play A vs P in the arcade by Capcom. Best A vs P game, ever. ;)

Eventually, Aliens would figure out their opponents and just swarm them. The Predator wouldn\'t be able to take them all out.

Predators are not invisible.

Aliens can sense prey and can even read minds.

Aliens are definitely superior to Predators and Humans, but not in a 1 on 1 on 1 fight. :laughing:
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Bossieman on June 11, 2001, 09:38:10 AM
What about Predator vs terminator?
Title: Aliens vs. Predator
Post by: Solid Snake 88 on June 11, 2001, 02:00:34 PM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware


ive already said this, its obvious the aliens have some sort of 6th sense.  Or ightened hearing or something.  How else do they know where the marines are, how else do they know where the ships crew, or the prisoners are?  they dont just guess.  I Believe the camoflague would be useless against the Aliens.  I cant remember off the top of my head if there was a reason given as to why they are such good hunters. Maybe they can smell blood, have extra senses like sharks do, they have something.



same goes for you buddy boy  :)


Well I think they\'re just like all predators (the Aliens, not the Predators :)) in that they can smell blood, sense heat, body electricity, ect. But that still wouldn\'t help them because it doesn\'t matter if they can determine where the Predator is, they still can\'t see them.

Either way, this argument is getting old. Lets just leave it at this - they both rule.