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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Deadly Hamster on June 15, 2001, 02:43:55 PM
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it sux it does..... ill list the problems with it right now
1. Austin CANT be a heel and they really cant make a good turn to face at this point now....
2. HHH is out and IMO he is the best heel ever , response from crowd and great matches.
3.Angel needs to have top spot in the wwf no matter what.
4. WCW shouldnt have any part in wwf this storyline sucks , and shanes the leader? and people cheer! thats messed up
5. The Takers gimmick has gotten old fast
6. well the obvius.... jericho and benoit are both #1 contenders and they are tag champs?!?! what the hell is that!
7. WWF seems to drop storylines quikly imo.... ( ex. Angel and steph afair , Trish face turn vs vince , Mick foley and linda mchmahons annoying and sickening attemps to announce matches, )
8. Rocks gone and wont be back for a while. ( WWF cant even do the job of creating a good face for the fans to like..... Kurt Angel would fill the spot but not now that HHH is out....
9.all the story lines suck i miss dx vs vince , and HHH vs . Angel
10. smackdowns announcing sucks
11. no 11 just that wwf is falling apart.....
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I agree with you TOTALLY...
While you were gone we had a thread about WWF.... Most people actually think it\'s better however I will never watch it again if it\'s gonna continue like this... it\'s pathetic.. I only like the Rock when he is face... and yes HHH is THE BEST heel ever... Angle is important he should be up there.... I think Taker should go WAY BACK to his days with Paul Bearer when he was nuts! I miss the Undtertaker who would like not talk and just kill people in the ring... WCW wrestlers are gay... I think Austins gimmick has been old for like a year.. okay here it goes...
Austin comes out yells, drinks beer, crowed cheers, drinkes beer, yells some more, cause stone cole said so, cheers, austin leaves... BORING!
no more wrestling comments now....
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I like it when Austin insults the audience. I MISS EARNEST MILLER WHEN HE WOULD SAY "Lock all the doors! I\'m a whoop everybody in here."
Smackdown! was good when Spike tore up Austin\'s petition and Tajiri beat Crash.
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I disagree with you on Austin being Heel.
Its just brilliant how his acting. Threating Debra, Mrs Vinnie Mac ! Beating Up Tajiri when he was babbling at him :D
Shouting at Vince, then all of a sudden hugging him with the camera turning to his robotic face :laughing:
Pure Gold :D
With him beating the hell out of Jericho and Beniot making his heel status even stronger.
Next years Wrestlemania will be set up as Austin Vs HHH.
With HHH being face, and finally dropping Steph and going it alone.
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My list of why it \'sux\':
1-It\'s a bunch of queers touching each other.
That\'s it.
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Agree with you there E-Thugg. I thought this thread was going to be about a group of wrestling haters, turns out its people who aint happy with it.
Wrestling is very queer (no offense to gay people out there). Esp for anyone over the age of 12.
Take it to the off topic gay section (the one they should invent for wrestling fans).
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oh i take that as you were callin me gay so shut your damn mouth you little piece of sh1t
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No I wasn\'t.
Its just I really hate wrestling thats all. It is aimed at a younger audiance who seem to be able to get into the action when really its just a load of fake poor acting.
Anyway, yeah I should have expressed my opinions better and no I wasn\'t calling you personally gay.
As for you calling me a "little piece of sh1t" then that just looks bad on you im affraid.
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Getting hit with anything over the head is kiddish? I\'ll hit you with a steel chair over the head and you tell me if that\'s kiddish. Yea they probly make the chairs specially but still it would hurt
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Well yeah it is kiddish. Theres nothing grown up about seeing two men beating each other, esp when its obvious the props are made and the wrestlers are punching air.
The story line at best is weak and the acting is dire.
Most grown ups I don\'t think would like it.
Then im not all grownups, and hell I aint mature. It isnt really the target audience which bothers me, but everytime i\'ve attempted to watch it it comes accross as really stupid. Prehaps if I followed it more I would get into it, but I don\'t want to do that.
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richguk , you said
off topic gay section (the one they should invent for wrestling fans).
gay section , wrestling fans)
so you did indeed say wrestling fans were gay , and if by " express my opinions better " you ment you just worded it wrong and you werent calling wrestling fans gay then ok , and anothr thing....
Wrestling isnt fake. well not completely fake , yes they dont really hate each other , and yes the whole storyline is fake , some moves are fake , the tables are fake , but for the most paert they really are hurting each other
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the move are not fake, if they were, how would little ids hurt people by playing wrestiling?Its just that the moves they perform, are done in a special way so they dont hurt each other. But, calling wrestling fans gay? RichGUK why do you think there gay? You are calling everyday people gay. Your calling wrestling gay. Anyway why are you bashing wrestling?
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Wrestling is one of the only shows left on tv that I\'ll watch. I like it. It\'s funny, it\'s violent, at times it\'s even dirty. It\'s what I want to watch on tv.
You can watch your reality shows, sitcoms, or whatever else you want, I\'ll stick to the WWF. Does that make me gay? No. Does that make someone a **** for insinuating such a thing? Yes.
And as for the idea that it\'s not a "real" sport, I always like to say that I could never bring myself to watch professional sports - they\'re not even fixed!
-Eik
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I used to like wrestling... untill I was 10 and found out its gayer(word?) Elen Hunt.
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Wrestling is fake for the most part.. A male soap opera. I am not dissin\' it. Just saying what I think of it.
If I want to see people do cool moves and beat the crap outta each other I will watch real fighting. UFC or perferably Pride Championship Fighting . Those guys are actually fighting and are tryin\' to hurt the other. No storyline. Just straight up fighting.
I also enjoy boxin\'.
I just can\'t get into the cheesey storylines of wrestling. I use to like it tho. When I was little.
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how come every time someone starts a wrestling thread somebody has to come in and call it gay or for queers?
just leave it alone if you dont like it.
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Originally posted by Luke
how come every time someone starts a wrestling thread somebody has to come in and call it gay or for queers?
just leave it alone if you dont like it.
I have to agree. I don\'t like wrestling, but I don\'t trash it. I think everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Still, on this one I can see how some mistook it for a thread to trash the WWF. Instead, it was just wrestling fans discussing the changes, I guess. No big deal.
In a perfect world (or forum ;) ).. Everyone would just not bother with threads that (1) did not interest them o (2) they could not help make interesting (3) if they could only add \'trash talk\' to the thread.
Personally, I think people should be allowed to make wrestling threads without someone comin\' in and calling it "queer". But, I also think some anti-wrestling fans should be allowed to make Anti-wrestling threads and discuss why they don\'t like it.. And if you don\'t like the thread, you just ignore it. But, sadly it can\'t be like that.
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Fact: Not everyone can like the same thing. I don\'t like wrestling. But, I don\'t think it is "queer" or the viewers are "queer" for watching it. If you don\'t like it and you feel you must say you don\'t like it , at least do it in a reasonable manner.
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I agree, wrestling has become more boring now and too predictable. I\'ll pay more attention to the WWF when the Rock comes back.
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Deadly Hamster: Yep thats what I ment, no insult was ment in what i said.
As for Cloud / Eiksirf and Luke: Please read the topic fully before responding, you will see i\'ve already explained why i\'ve bashed wrestling and wasn\'t bashing its fans.
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well then i was wrong , but i only said that caus i thought you called people who watch wrestling gay , so then sorry dude.
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Originally posted by EThugg
My list of why it \'sux\':
1-It\'s a bunch of queers touching each other.
That\'s it.
Couldnt agree more! :D
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I think that Austin is going to lost to The Rock when he comes back. HHH won\'t be back for like 3-4 more months.
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Originally posted by EThugg
My list of why it \'sux\':
1-It\'s a bunch of queers touching each other.
That\'s it.
Yea, and football is a bunch of ******s rubbing against each other. Don\'t be so ignorant.
-Eik
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
Yea, and football is a bunch of ******s rubbing against each other. Don\'t be so ignorant.
-Eik
I hope you don\'t think your changing my mind there.... American Football is the things you said....
No one with any substantial capacity for intelligent thought would watch either. Calling it \'queer\' is just dumbing it down to your level. Cause your MORONS.
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ethugg your the one in a wrestling thread calling people morons , or maybe its that time of the month for you.....
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:nut:Yeah i know it totally Sux:nut:
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I miss things like Austin vs. Iron Mike Thyson, the old undertaker (and not this gay rocker outfit and the davidson), Vince Mc Mahon vs. Austin..............................................but WWF sucks, sucked and will suck. I want WCW with Sting. I want big fights like Sting vs. Hogan at Starrcade 1997 (Stinger\'s revenge) or the matches like Sting vs. Flair in the early 90\'s. This were great wrestling matches..........
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oh and , austins a heel now and all of a sudden he sucks at real fighting and runs away from evry1 , austin is not a heel i cant watch his promos " my name is stone cold steve austina dn im the wwf champion ". Jesus christ i hate ****y stuff like that , and jericho and benoit? meybe benoit but jericho !?! comon wwf is , and has been on a downward spiral of ratings with smackdown at 3.2 last week.....
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Wrestling does not suck!
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Well you\'re right about one thing - Austin is the most craptacular heel I have ever seen in my life.
"My name is Stone Cold Steve Austin, I am the World Wrestling Federation champion, I am a man\'s man, a champion of champions, and I can not be stopped. "
SHUT THE F*CK UP!!!!! I DON\'T CARE WHAT YOUR F*CKING NAME IS YOU BIG PIECE OF TRAILER PARK TRASH!!!
P.S. WCW blows a$$. The old one anyway.
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i can see stone colds carear going downhill very fast from here on.....
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
i can see stone colds carear going downhill very fast from here on.....
Bah, this sucks.....Wrestling has been getting worse and worse, once stone cold goes back to being a face he will be popular again. Hell the ROCK is the best damn wrestler they got.
Oh, and did i mention that Trish Stratus is a man;)
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the stalker is finally revealed! I wont spoil it but he is a 3 time champion maybe 2 I forget
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cough.
I tried to tell you guys this way, way back.
If only I tried harder! Quick Mr. Peabody intot he Wayback Machine!
Eric Jacob
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damnit wwf!! anothr perfectly good angel ruined! damnit why the hell is DDP the stalker!!!!! what the hell are they doing!?!?!?!?!
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three time three time three time
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Here is a list of sports which involve contact with another person:
Football
Hockey
Soccer
Tag
Wrestling
Basketball
Just off the top of my head.
Another thing, wrestling is not fake it\'s cheoreographed. When someone falls, they really fall. When Mick Foley fell off the cell, he wasn\'t carried down by a string. Now there\'s a difference between cheoreographed and fake let\'s look.
fake-
adj.
Having a false or misleading appearance; fraudulent.
n.
One that is not authentic or genuine; a sham.
Sports. A brief feint or aborted change of direction intended to mislead one\'s opponent or the opposing team.
cho·re·o·graph (kôr--grf, kr-)
v. cho·re·o·graphed, cho·re·o·graph·ing, cho·re·o·graphs
v. tr.
To create the choreography of: choreograph a ballet.
To plan out or oversee the movement, development, or details of; orchestrate: aides who choreographed the candidate\'s tour.
v. intr.
To specialize in choreography.
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Originally posted by "The One" Billy Gunn
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adj.
Having a false or misleading appearance; fraudulent.
n.
One that is not authentic or genuine; a sham.
Sports. A brief feint or aborted change of direction intended to mislead one\'s opponent or the opposing team.
cho·re·o·graph (kôr--grf, kr-)
v. cho·re·o·graphed, cho·re·o·graph·ing, cho·re·o·graphs
v. tr.
To create the choreography of: choreograph a ballet.
To plan out or oversee the movement, development, or details of; orchestrate: aides who choreographed the candidate\'s tour.
v. intr.
To specialize in choreography.
So when the one wrestler dude goes to knee the other wrestler and he slaps the matt with his other knee to get the sound because he doesn\'t really hit the wrestler with his knee that\'s choreography? Hmmm. I thought it was fake.
I guess choreography isn\'t gay. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
So let\'s think of other sports/events/whatever that have choreography...
1: Syncronized Swimming.
2: Dance Teams
3: Ballet (Falls under Dance, but didn\'t want anyone thinking I forgot them)
4: Harlem Globetrotters
5: Marching Band (Dang, I was in the band too. Why me???????)
6: Precision Flying (OK, can I nix this one? This really does take balls)
That\'s about all I can think of now on the clock. Gotta go back to work.
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billy gun it is fake to some extent , even though i argue against the people that openly call it fake , you cant say none of it is ill list the fake stuff , i might have already but i dont remember ,
1. tables
2. Announcing ( stage not 20 feet )
3. Tombstone
4. Cage face Grinds
5. Person flying face first into cage
6. going through top of sell ( Middle spot weak not sure about mick vs. taker )
7. Dazed , Stunned , And knocked appearance.
8. SOME injuries
9. Storyline
10. Some weapon hits
a. Sledge Hammer
b. Belt ( not really faked but person slides down befor hit )
c. Steve Blackmans 2 karate sticks ( whatever they called )
11. Irish Whips ( The illusion of the person being thrown at full force )
12. Face against Announcing Table/ Stairs / Gaurdrail.
that sums it up for fake now ill list Real.
1. Choke Slam
2. Powerbomb
3. Figure Four
4.Tazzplex
5. all suplexs
6. Chair Shots
7. Kendo Stick shots ( Kendo Sticks not that strong in middle to break , maybe means fake )
8.Foley off cell
9. Chokeclam from taker to HHH on concrete
10. Royal Rumble \'99 HH vs. Mick foley , multiple injuries.
11. HHH leg injurie
12. Daren Drozden ( Droz ) injured his neck and became paralized when d\'lo brown made a mistake in a match.
13. Altough not while wrestling Owen hart was killed when he was being lowerd down to the ring when his harness broke sending him falling to his death
14. High-Flying moves ( senton bomb , monsult , etc...)
theres alot more but thats all i can think of at the moment.
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Videoholic- When a wrestler falls off a cage does he really fall or is he being guided down by an invisible rope? When a wrestler hits a suplex are, is he really hitting a suplex or are we imagining the whole thing. When a wrestler gets on the top rope, is he really there or is it a figment of our imagination? When a wreslter gets thrown into the ropes, is he really touching those ropes or is that fake too?
This whole wrestling is "gay" is your typical stereotype. The whole Idea that wrestling is fake, is purely false by counterexamples.
Wrestling is real. TV shows are real. There is no fake, I\'m not going to turn on Saturday Night Live and see, "this is a fake show" because if it was fake, where is the real show? Are those wrestlers real? yes. Are their characters real? Yes, if they weren\'t where are they?
So you see wrestling is real, but what we see is called \'Storylines\'. So todays lesson is complete. I have taught all of you. Oh wait, are you people wven real, no your all fake, so who am I talking to?
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another thing , ethugg , you call footbal players gay, im not gonna use the f word to talk to you caus i would like to stay on good turms witht he admins....
I play football ethugg , football is a real sport practice is evry day you run evry day hit sleda evryday , practice plays evryday . how dare you call athletes as hard working as footbal players "queer"! i would like to see you play fottball you could come to my school and play and see how long you last , practice evry day in 70 degree weather in pads , a helmet that hurts , for 3 months evry day , you gotta memorize the play book , you gotta get mentaly prepared to get the bruised evry single play and to remember what to dot he next , to not screw up , you gotta train , run , lift wieghts , and you call football players qeer?? well listen you are saying this on a forums on the internet , whens the last time you did anything physicle? i bet your thumb mucels are strong now after pressing your damn stupid X button so may times! so befor you go insulting other people think about what youve done in your life that could be held even as an acomplishment that would be aboout 1/20 the effort it takes to play football.
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Wrestling is real. You\'re right. It\'s just a tv show. Just like in say Friends, Chandler punches Phoebe. I would say, "Awe, that was fake." But you are correct though. If Chandler jumped off the couch and hit the floor I would say, "Man he really did that." But when he screams in agony cause he hurt himself I would say, "Awe, he\'s faking it."
Don\'t worry about what I think. If you are happy with it have fun with it. I don\'t really care. I just wanted to chime in on one point earlier. I didn\'t really want to get cought up in whether it\'s real or fake. Although it is fake.. heh.. Had to get that last jab in..
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Does it really matter if it is fake? If you enjoy it, that is what matters. I personally cannot watch it, because when they are "hitting" each other, it looks fake to me. You can tell they are not hitting each other, so it ruins the \'mood\' for me. I have no doubt that when they are doin\' suplexes or when they jump from the ring they can and do get hurt sometimes.
To sum it up, I view wrestling as a soap opera for males. It has the violence, the cheesey storylines and the love affairs. Is there anything wrong with that? No. But, not everyone can enjoy it.
It certainly isn\'t "queer" though.
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Wow Living In Clip just summed up everything I was about to say in his last post.. I guess taht leaves me nothing to say but if you think it\'s fake, then dont watch it, if you think its real, then watch if you like.
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Let me preface this post by saying that I don\'t have anything against wrestling and its fans, I just found these pics funny. With that said:
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:laughing:
Those pictures are funny!
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Originally posted by Gohan
Let me preface this post by saying that I don\'t have anything against wrestling and its fans, I just found these pics funny. With that said:
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OMFG!!
LOL!!! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
On the first one Rock looks like he\'s in pain!! I can\'t say I blame him either...
But the second one makes perfect sense though, I already new Hulk Hogan was gay.
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Hulk is married and has a kid. I hate to stick up for wrestling in all it\'s total lameness, but that pic of hulk is a really bad fake job.
Unles of course he lost his right arm in a wrestling accident. We all know that can\'t happen though since the "show" is fake.
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no response..... except... hahahahahahha!
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Originally posted by Videoholic
Hulk is married and has a kid. I hate to stick up for wrestling in all it\'s total lameness, but that pic of hulk is a really bad fake job.
Unles of course he lost his right arm in a wrestling accident. We all know that can\'t happen though since the "show" is fake.
I didn\'t actually mean he\'s "gay". I just hate him.