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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: QuDDus on June 15, 2001, 04:33:33 PM
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Well I saw this site and it has 290 xbox games that have been confirmed and being develoed. And I thought that was very impressive seeing how little time that Microsoft has had to get the system done. Quite impressive I would say:)
http://www.gorillax.com/xboxgames/main.asp
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*yawn*
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Originally posted by Clyde
*yawn*
Mmm\'hmm. I agree, Clyde. You\'re one smart chimp.
I don\'t care how many games are in development. Why? Because that means one thing.. Microsoft is following in Sony\'s footsteps with the idea of "quanity over quality". Whatever happened to quality control? I rather have 1 good game every 3 months then 10 horrible games every month. I have said the exact same thing about Sony in previous threads. They can list all these games and who are developing them. But for the most part, alot of these games are goin\' to suck or at least be medicore. And for the ones that aren\'t, they may very well end up bein\' "sleeper hits", because they don\'t have the hype behind them and they are released along side alot of garbage. Need an example? Look at the PS2 right now. How many titles are must own ? Not very many. Yet there is more then enough games out on the market. Why? Because most of them are just ****ty (H30 anyone? Army Men? Hello?) . Then, of course there is the so called "sleeper hit" which in my opinion has been "Shadows of Destiny".
So, to sum it up. I am not impressed with this so called "achievement". I rather see Sony and MS enforce quality over quanity. Infact, I rather see alot less games and just more quality overall.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Mmm\'hmm. I agree, Clyde. You\'re one smart chimp.
I don\'t care how many games are in development. Why? Because that means one thing.. Microsoft is following in Sony\'s footsteps with the idea of "quanity over quality". Whatever happened to quality control? I rather have 1 good game every 3 months then 10 horrible games every month. I have said the exact same thing about Sony in previous threads. They can list all these games and who are developing them. But for the most part, alot of these games are goin\' to suck or at least be medicore. And for the ones that aren\'t, they may very well end up bein\' "sleeper hits", because they don\'t have the hype behind them and they are released along side alot of garbage. Need an example? Look at the PS2 right now. How many titles are must own ? Not very many. Yet there is more then enough games out on the market. Why? Because most of them are just ****ty (H30 anyone? Army Men? Hello?) . Then, of course there is the so called "sleeper hit" which in my opinion has been "Shadows of Destiny".
So, to sum it up. I am not impressed with this so called "achievement". I rather see Sony and MS enforce quality over quanity. Infact, I rather see alot less games and just more quality overall.
I agree 100% they are following in sony steps with all the quantity, but that is all. And what I was trying to stress is that xbox was once called vaporware. And this is there first step into the console world in a small matter of time they managed get so much software in the works. And bye that I am impressed. But as far as the games goes. I mean there will always be crappy games on consoles. Its a given.
But Ms was suposed to have some sort of quality control on games, but we all know that is BS. Well we can\'t start to judge ms yet, because we don\'t know how they will run their xbox divison. We don\'t know there business strategys, and how they will handle marketing and so on. So lets not assume just because they have a lot of titles they will run xbox the exact same way as sony as ran ps2.
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Unfortunately that "quantity" is what common folk will be looking for. Nintendo already went the way of "quality" but unfortunately no one took the bait, so it seems "quantity" is in now. You can see that by the Gamecube\'s launch list: 17 games vs. 2 games at the N64 launch.
In with the new, out with the old, even though new doesn\'t necessarily mean better.
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Originally posted by Saotome
Unfortunately that "quantity" is what common folk will be looking for. Nintendo already went the way of "quality" but unfortunately no one took the bait, so it seems "quantity" is in now. You can see that by the Gamecube\'s launch list: 17 games vs. 2 games at the N64 launch.
In with the new, out with the old, even though new doesn\'t necessarily mean better.
The general consumer believes that quanity is always better. It is the same as the idea that "bigger is better" ( ;) ) ..Obviously this isn\'t true. But, hey it looks good, when a company can say "we have 300 titles for \'System X\' " instead of "we have 30 titles for System X". It is quite sad actually.
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Absolutely. Microsoft has somehow made a console. And a good one at that that has a definite chance of muscling itself into the market for good. This is definitely not an easy task, but they managed somehow.
Just goes to show that with enough money and enough research you can make a \'sure thing\' out of vaporware.
As for the number of titles in development, who really gives a ****? The PC currently has over 2 billion titles in development around the world! Ooooh! *Drooool*
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Microsoft is following in Sony\'s footsteps with the idea of "quanity over quality". Whatever happened to quality control? I rather have 1 good game every 3 months then 10 horrible games every month.
Not me. I would rather have the huge selection of games that I can choose from instead of being hand fed a game every three months. I support the quantity over quality idea. That was one of the main problems with the N64. There were just not enough games.
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I believe both ways. Quantity is definately a good thing because it gives the gamer a choice over the specific type of game they want to play. It\'s nice to know that if you want to play a "Survival Horror" game, you have a wide array of scenarios and themes to choose from. If they aren\'t all AAA, I don\'t care. As long as they\'re decent games, I can accept that as a price I pay for having the asthetic portion of my gaming tastes delivered.
However, a console needs a strong backing of AAA titles to be considered good in my mind. What good is buying a game for 50 bucks if you only play through it once or twice? A game should keep you comming back for more, long after the original purchase. All the crap games don\'t bother me, since I could care less about them. Do I mind that Army Men is successful? No, because someone.. somewhere.. enjoys them. (As unthinkable as that may seem)
Really, the PSX has over 1000 titles released for it. If even only 20% of those games fall under the AAA or Good catergory.. then I\'ve made a good purchase, since that offers me around 200 games (Usually covering all genres) to choose from.. which is more than I can afford to buy for any one system in a generation.
It takes both Quality AND Quantity to make a good console IMO.
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XBOX, thats very lovely, almost as lovely as the amount of games being developed for PS2 :)
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Funny, most of you were saying different when Sony announced that 750 PS2 titles were being developed. Funny how things chnge in so little time.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Funny, most of you were saying different when Sony announced that 750 PS2 titles were being developed. Funny how things chnge in so little time.
Eric Jacob
Exacly!
LOL!
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what I dont like is how all these xbox fanboys are thinking that EVERY xbox game is going to rule...I cant wait till i see a Mickey Mouse game for it
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Its as simple as would you rather have 500 RE gun survivor\'s or 10 MGS2\'s?
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Originally posted by Claypool 2001
what I dont like is how all these xbox fanboys are thinking that EVERY xbox game is going to rule...I cant wait till i see a Mickey Mouse game for it
That isn\'t limited to Xbox fanboys. There has been plenty of threads listing every game in development for the PS2 and how everyone should be excited.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
That isn\'t limited to Xbox fanboys. There has been plenty of threads listing every game in development for the PS2 and how everyone should be excited.
oh, I understand that, its just that the XBox fanboys IMO are the worse now because the thing isnt even out yet, and most of the people can only see graphics and not gameplay (other than the people that went to E3)...
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I would rather have 12 solid games over 100 games any day. :D
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well i could care less about if there is a bunch of crappy games each month as long as there are good ones too
i mean no one is forcing you to buy the bad ones
i mean if you get one good game every three months then what will you do once you are tired of that game - just sit there and look at it like i did with my 64 - that sucks - why limit yourself to that when you could at least have lots of games bad and good to choose from
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Originally posted by SonyFan
I believe both ways. Quantity is definately a good thing because it gives the gamer a choice over the specific type of game they want to play. It\'s nice to know that if you want to play a "Survival Horror" game, you have a wide array of scenarios and themes to choose from. If they aren\'t all AAA, I don\'t care. As long as they\'re decent games, I can accept that as a price I pay for having the asthetic portion of my gaming tastes delivered.
However, a console needs a strong backing of AAA titles to be considered good in my mind. What good is buying a game for 50 bucks if you only play through it once or twice? A game should keep you comming back for more, long after the original purchase. All the crap games don\'t bother me, since I could care less about them. Do I mind that Army Men is successful? No, because someone.. somewhere.. enjoys them. (As unthinkable as that may seem)
Really, the PSX has over 1000 titles released for it. If even only 20% of those games fall under the AAA or Good catergory.. then I\'ve made a good purchase, since that offers me around 200 games (Usually covering all genres) to choose from.. which is more than I can afford to buy for any one system in a generation.
It takes both Quality AND Quantity to make a good console IMO.
Well said, that`s exactly my opinion.
There are many gamers that have a preference for a certain genre and they will probably rather buy a game they like than a obviously better one from a different genre.
Well that is sad for some of that great games cause they deserve a bigger success , but that`s just how it is.
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Originally posted by IronFist
Not me. I would rather have the huge selection of games that I can choose from instead of being hand fed a game every three months. I support the quantity over quality idea. That was one of the main problems with the N64. There were just not enough games.
Yeah you have a point there. But a lot times when there is a lot of quantity there is maybe onle 1 or 2 games that are worth the purchase. I mean look at ps2 now. I just wish for once we could get quality and quantity.
oh, I understand that, its just that the XBox fanboys IMO are the worse now because the thing isnt even out yet, and most of the people can only see graphics and not gameplay (other than the people that went to E3
Now isn\'t this the pot calling the kettle black. And second of all this thread only was to say look at something that was once called vaporware, and mocked for having no titles. And now they have managed to snag up so many. Obvisouly you must be the fanboy if all you could do is come in here and try and start up a flame over something that has nothing to do with this post. And third all we have on xbox games now is graphics. The freakin games are not even completed yet so how can you even come in here and discuss gameplay in games that are not even done. I mean the games are all in the pre-stages. I mean that is very stupid to bring up gamplay when the games are still in pre-stages and not even completed. And last I don\'t know what planet you live on, because gameplay is not the most improtant thing in the majority of playstion games that is why 80% of them are crap.
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When was Max Payne... or AvP2 confirmed for XB? I don\'t think that list is 100% accurate....
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Originally posted by EThugg
When was Max Payne... or AvP2 confirmed for XB? I don\'t think that list is 100% accurate....
As for max payne I think it is supose to be heading to xbox some time in 2002. Although they are not saying much about it now.
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Originally posted by XBOX
Now isn\'t this the pot calling the kettle black. And second of all this thread only was to say look at something that was once called vaporware, and mocked for having no titles. And now they have managed to snag up so many. Obvisouly you must be the fanboy if all you could do is come in here and try and start up a flame over something that has nothing to do with this post. And third all we have on xbox games now is graphics. The freakin games are not even completed yet so how can you even come in here and discuss gameplay in games that are not even done. I mean the games are all in the pre-stages. I mean that is very stupid to bring up gamplay when the games are still in pre-stages and not even completed. And last I don\'t know what planet you live on, because gameplay is not the most improtant thing in the majority of playstion games that is why 80% of them are crap.
How was I starting a flame war again? And I agree with you about the early stages of development and such 100%. SOME people think that every game with awsome graphics will be a AAA title, which isnt always the case. How am I a fanboy? I never said anything bad about the Xbox in any way shape or form. I never mentioned any console superiority. I was talking about the fanboys dude! and you know its true, just go over to MSXBOX and see for yourself! thats all they talk about.
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Originally posted by EThugg
When was Max Payne... or AvP2 confirmed for XB? I don\'t think that list is 100% accurate....
MP has only been confirmed for PC and PS2 at this point. I think they would be foolish not to port it to Xbox, but as of right now it\'s not official.
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Originally posted by Samwise
MP has only been confirmed for PC and PS2 at this point. I think they would be foolish not to port it to Xbox, but as of right now it\'s not official.
Exactly. While chances are good, I want a speculation free line up list. So I know exactly what\'s confirmed.
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Originally posted by Claypool 2001
How was I starting a flame war again? And I agree with you about the early stages of development and such 100%. SOME people think that every game with awsome graphics will be a AAA title, which isnt always the case. How am I a fanboy? I never said anything bad about the Xbox in any way shape or form. I never mentioned any console superiority. I was talking about the fanboys dude! and you know its true, just go over to MSXBOX and see for yourself! thats all they talk about.
LOL.....Ok maybe I misunderstood you, but come on all fanboys are just alike no matter if they are xbox, gamecube or ps2. So we can\'t rag on some fanboys in one forum, because their are fanboy in every forum. I.e psx2central:D
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Originally posted by XBOX
So we can\'t rag on some fanboys in one forum, because their are fanboy in every forum.
this is also true
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XBOX
That is a questionable link. I don\'t see a list of 290 games anywhere. All I see is a number and a list of games that can be no more than 100.