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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Tshirts on June 19, 2001, 06:55:06 PM
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To the opposing fanboys.....*warning* I can piss some of you off!
First of all.....
I have more merit than any of you in here to judge the game because I have played the damn thing before. None of you are in any position to prejudge the game because it has not been out yet, and therefore you can only go by what another individual\'s assessment(a bad one at that) of what he thinks and not your own line of thought. So, before I further reiterate, I will say it in simpler terms, unless if you are indeed the reviewer of the game, or have had a test drive, then you are in no position to contend, or refute anything I will further say because currently I hold a lot more merit than you have. Furthermore, if you don\'t happen to like my review, well too bad!
Part of the reason I am writing this review is to contend with Mcdonald\'s review from Videogames.com. I think my criteria is much better than his. I am using a standard of measurement for the fans. I mean, he basically is comparing the game to what is currently out on the PS2(which is nothing!) and using a line of criteria drawn from the compared games on the system. Now is that fair or what? What the fans want is a comparison to the prior incarnations and/or prodeccessors of the game and a quick assessment of how this one fares against them.
For the graphics, I contrast the game to prior PS2 games and not PSX games(something Mcdonald is doing. Thus the high grade).
For everything else, the game was equivalated to the likes(such as vigilante, road trip, etc) and the prodeccessors(TW 1-4). (Mcdonald simply compared it to other games on the system. Funny thing is there are currently no other known superb car combat game on the system, so of course it would be a no brainer to give the game such a high score.)
I\'ll start with the Graphics:
Framerate is good. The game runs incredibly smooth with no glitch. It looks like it could be in the high 60s, but I am not sure. The game\'s textures are murky, dark, grim, and very unimpressive. I take it this is due to the lack of VRAM. The resolution is incredibly low also. The car models (such as the ice cream truck, and Roadkill) are eye-catching with a high poly count, but all the others are evidently low and doesn\'t look much better than their PSX counterparts. Seriously, you have to see for yourself. The game(graphically) is not a huge improvement over what we have seen before, and compared to the other games on the PS2 it is only average at best. Graphics: 7
Gameplay:
This is my biggest gripe. I would like to remind you that we are not seeing anything new. I have played the last 4 incarnations of the game, and games such as Vigilante 8. Basically I am a fan of car combat racing games. In terms of gameplay, this game fails to innovate the genre further and is nothing more than a simple rehash of all of the listed above games. So basically, if you are sick of car combat games, you will get sick of this one. The only new gameplay innovation I encounter was a little Street Fighter esque move and I like how they integrated timing shots where you get rewards depending on your accuracy. That is it! I cannot further reiterate how small and petty those innovations are considering the potential(analog buttons anyone?) the PS2 provides. Then we have the levels. OMG they are huge! Some of them are cool as hell(like the one with mountains) but in the end this hampers the gameplay temendously. It is so easy to get lost and sometimes it is not fun at all when you are running around searching for your enemy. I rather have the levels small and compact so I can just focus on the gameplay and not have like a search and destroy type of thing. Gameplay: 6
Controls: Same ole thing. You have an option of which control you desire at the start of the game. Rating: 10
Music: Pretty good. Rating: 9
Funfactor: This game is in no way fun especially if you have played all the prior incarnations of it. It seriously offers nothing new and is nothing more than a rehash. Boring! For those who have never touched the series before, it should be fun for you, but I\'ll simply pass and wait for some other game that will advance the genre further. Cel Damage anyone?
Overall grade: 7.2
To end this......
Take this into consideration. When was the last time the PS2 had a killer app in the same line as this game? Sure Onimusha was great, but it was neither a subsisting franchise nor a PSX mascot. TW:Black is the only game that is carrying the legacy onward(GT3 is next!), so the significance, and importance of this game is grand and thus it is not a far fetch idea that Sony is riding high off of this game and slipping some of these websites a couple of mula to write up a good, quick review. What better website to choose than Gamespot(whom have been supisciously rumored to give controversial scores to undeserving games). It\'s really no secret! Look at it this way. VG has proven themselves to be in Sony\'s back pocket from time to time(*cough* FF8 and GT2 perfect scores!). The website is one of the biggest videogame websites out there today, and it would not suprise me if Ziff Davis has some sort of ties with Sony.
You see.....
I am a lover of all consoles, and I cannot stress enough on how a game that offers little innovation and is nothing more than a simple upgrade get such a high grade of a 9.5. Innovative and better games like Jet Grind Radio, Panzer Dragoon Zwei, Legend of Zelda: Majora\'s Mask, Diddy Kong racing, Shenmue, Eternal Arcadia, etc have all scored lower from the website than this poor excuse of a rehash game. Can you guys honestly view any of the games I just listed as worse than this one?(now, of course, I am not comparing all the games I just listed directly to TW: Black because in doing so would be idiotic of me considering they are not in the same genre and such. What I am doing is evaluating the "stature", and value of the above products to the game. For example: TW: Black, although not in the same genre as Eternal Arcadia, is not a "higher grade" product than it. Also, TW:Black *better* than Legend of Zelda 2? C\'mon now!). Their grade system is flawed, and it simply has zero merit. Picking a fan of the system to grade an overhyped up product is not my idea of a good way to get the most critical and honest review.
In the end, all I have to say is this....play the game for yourself and see for yourself that I am indeed right. Hey you don\'t have to agree with me, but at least I made a statement, and (possibly) uncover some of VG\'s wrong undoings....hehe
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When does a lack of innovation warrant a low score? Perhaps the websites gave TM: B a high score because it deserved a high score.
I read over your "Gameplay" rating. You gave it a 6 because "we are not seeing anything new"? Please base your gameplay rating on the gameplay, ok? There\'s more to the category than just innovation.
I\'m not going to argue with your review, because it\'s your opinion, but I\'d like to recommend that you look at the game in a different perspective before reviewing it.
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Very well done Tshirts, your words come out with a great sense of honesty, and Truth.
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Originally posted by Tshirts
To the opposing fanboys.....*warning* I can piss some of you off!
First of all.....
I have more merit than any of you in here to judge the game because I have played the damn thing before. None of you are in any position to prejudge the game because it has not been out yet, and therefore you can only go by what another individual\'s assessment(a bad one at that) of what he thinks and not your own line of thought. So, before I further reiterate, I will say it in simpler terms, unless if you are indeed the reviewer of the game, or have had a test drive, then you are in no position to contend, or refute anything I will further say because currently I hold a lot more merit than you have. Furthermore, if you don\'t happen to like my review, well too bad!
Part of the reason I am writing this review is to contend with Mcdonald\'s review from Videogames.com. I think my criteria is much better than his. I am using a standard of measurement for the fans. I mean, he basically is comparing the game to what is currently out on the PS2(which is nothing!) and using a line of criteria drawn from the compared games on the system. Now is that fair or what? What the fans want is a comparison to the prior incarnations and/or prodeccessors of the game and a quick assessment of how this one fares against them.
welp I read the above 2 paragraphs twice and I have come to the conclusion that you are an idiot.
You have 0 merit here or anywhere, I can\'t believe you actually think you have merit. Thats too laughable
I\'ll wait and read the reviews from PS2 fans,
Out of curiosity how many hours have you\'ve played TM:B
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Gee, bad review for TM:B, ahh come on, i think it deserves a better mark then 7.2 How about adding 2 points for "FUN FACTOR" damn it is cool! Play it with a bunch of friends !
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Originally posted by Toxical
Gee, bad review for TM:B, ahh come on, i think it deserves a better mark then 7.2 How about adding 2 points for "FUN FACTOR" damn it is cool! Play it with a bunch of friends !
I couldn\'t have said it better myself. If TM: B offers only a fraction of the fun that TM2 did, then I have no problem spending my money on it. I don\'t care about innovation or originality. I care about how fun the damn game is to play.
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Can I ask you a question Tshirts, why do you think have so much merit and know so much?
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Out of curiosity how many hours have you\'ve played TM:B
I believed I logged 10 hrs into the game. I beat the game once in single player mode using the motorcycle, skeleton character(Grim???) The ending consist of a quick in game CG-esque sequence of the victor sitting down and then quickly getting up and shooting away. I did not follow the storyline because I never cared too much for endings.
I don\'t care about innovation or originality. I care about how fun the damn game is to play.
Yikes! You don\'t care for innovation and originality?!! No wonder you are a Sony fanboy(haha jk!). Regarding the multi-player mode. Umm there are slow down and some framerate problems, plus the screen is rather small. The detail of the environments are extremely hampered(expected). It is fun I admit, but just pull out Twisted Metal 2 and be happy. There I just saved you $50! ;)
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Can I ask you a question Tshirts, why do you think have so much merit and know so much?[/b]
I didn\'t mean to sound like such a jerk when I said that. What I meant was(in lighter terms), since I have played the game, I think I am in a better position to judge it than a person who hasn\'t. That was all that I meant. Sorry!
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Ok thats cool, thanks for clearing that up, i see what ya mean now, I may not agree with your review but I have nothing against you
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I have not played this game yet so I really can\'t get mad at your opinion. I will say this though....I think I\'m willing to trust the guys over there at gamespot than you my friend especially when you consider that gamespot are such tightasses when it comes to giving great scores...especially for the PS2. But again you\'re entitled to your opinion.
I\'ll find out for myself tomorrow! :cool:
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Tshirts
You said Graphics were only average at best but you gave them a 7, which is above average on a 1-10 scale.
Yo, you should really lighten up on your wording. I don\'t know why you have this aggressive mentality but no one is out to get you. You will make more friends if you are nice and if people are mean to you just ignore them, b/c then everyone will see they R an ASS.
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as long as you judge Sega, Nintendo and XBox games on equal terms and basing the majority of the score on originality, then i have no gripes with your review. I may love the game and give it 9 out of 10, other reviewers may give it 10 out of 10 etc. This is your opinion on the game, and i accept that. But folks, you dont have to think Tshirts word is final and that his opinion means you wont like it. As long as he judges all games as critically as he does TM:B, then i commend him.
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Framerate is good. The game runs incredibly smooth with no glitch. It looks like it could be in the high 60s, but I am not sure.
Mr. 3D can\'t tell if a game is running @ a silky 60fps? ... Pfft.
- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
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Boy T, you sure got something against vg.com.
Eh.. To each their own.
Many people will get this game over the next few days, and then we will see who is full of it...vg.com vs. you.
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How pathetic..
You xbox fanboys cant face that PS2 is getting some great games that\'ll never come to your beloved Xbox??
Is thats what wrong?
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Rofl Tshirts, you sound a lot like a bitter anti-PS2 person. I wonder what you would have thought of the game if it was only out on DC or *gasp* Xbox? I\'m not sure, but I have this feeling that you\'re one of those people who would buy crap-on-a-stick if only it carried a Nintendo brand?
Sorry, I just can\'t take you all that seriously. I\'d trust the review a whole lot more if it was written by Living-in-Clip or someone similar with more merit than you.
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Rofl Tshirts, you sound a lot like a bitter anti-PS2 person. [/b]
Before I reply to this comment, I must apologize to everyone before hand because this will get ugly.
I am going to be honest with you guys, and this is my opinion. I am disappointment with Sony. Not in a biased sense, but more in line with resentment(I am currently letdown with my PS2 purchase). Simply put, they failed to deliver....
I can assure you I want the system to succeed as much as anyone in here, but can you seriously blame me for being so critical?
What have we really gotten from Sony so far?
- Tekken and Ridge Racer were rehashes(I got sick of them in a week)! The Bouncer was horrible. Onimusha was incredibly short and the pre-rendered background limited the game tremendously(not to mention the final fight-esque repetitive gameplay wasn\'t much fun). I didn\'t like Madden/Nba Live because I found Nba2K1/NFL2K1 more suitable to my taste. Dark Cloud was one of my most anticipated PS2 titles and it failed short of my expectations. Now Twisted Metal: Black(a game I was looking forward to) is nothing but a piece of rehash crap! The only games I like on the system are Silpheed, SSX, and Smuggler\'s Run.
I really want the system to succeed as much as you do, but speaking from a gamer\'s perspective and not a fanboy, I am not having fun with my PS2! Half of the stuff on the system cannot even compare to the stuff on the Dreamcast that I\'ve played a year ago. That\'s one year ago! The PS2 is a huge disappointment to me, and I cannot speak more whole heartedly.
and......
Personally, I am so sick of waiting. Everyone is saying the good games like MGS2, Klonoa, Xenosaga, Gran Turismo 3, etc are coming soon. Remember when the prospect of Dark Cloud(Zelda killer!), The Bouncer(the best fighter ever!), Onimusha( the original makers of the Resident Evil) seem so enticing an alluring? Well all of them failed short of expectations! I think part of the reason why the future games on the PS2 will not impress me is because they are sequels of prior games and nothing fresh(except for Jax). How much longer do we have to wait until "Sony finally delivers?" I have given up on them a long time ago and I await with glee of what the other two competitors are bringing to the table. You can\'t blame me, I am a lover of videogames and not of only Sony.
When the PS2 comes out with more games suitable to my taste then I will support the system like before. Now\'s just not the time for me. This is all my opinion of course and I know many of you are happy with your purchase. Sorry for my rant and anti-PS2 attitude.
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If not for SSX the PS2 launch for me would have been sad. :D But i think it has picked up a lot in the last 2 months.
My titles that i play the most are:
SSX
Dark Cloud
TM:B
MGS2-Demo
ZOE
Now if i could only get the following 4 titles this year,
i would be rather happy :D
Final Fantasy
MGS2
GT3
Jak+Daxter
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Originally posted by Tshirts
Rofl Tshirts, you sound a lot like a bitter anti-PS2 person.
Before I reply to this comment, I must apologize to everyone before hand because this will get ugly.
I am going to be honest with you guys, and this is my opinion. I am disappointment with Sony. Not in a biased sense, but more in line with resentment(I am currently letdown with my PS2 purchase). Simply put, they failed to deliver....
I can assure you I want the system to succeed as much as anyone in here, but can you seriously blame me for being so critical?
What have we really gotten from Sony so far?
- Tekken and Ridge Racer were rehashes(I got sick of them in a week)! The Bouncer was horrible. Onimusha was incredibly short and the pre-rendered background limited the game tremendously(not to mention the final fight-esque repetitive gameplay wasn\'t much fun). I didn\'t like Madden/Nba Live because I found Nba2K1/NFL2K1 more suitable to my taste. Dark Cloud was one of my most anticipated PS2 titles and it failed short of my expectations. Now Twisted Metal: Black(a game I was looking forward to) is nothing but a piece of rehash crap! The only games I like on the system are Silpheed, SSX, and Smuggler\'s Run.
I really want the system to succeed as much as you do, but speaking from a gamer\'s perspective and not a fanboy, I am not having fun with my PS2! Half of the stuff on the system cannot even compare to the stuff on the Dreamcast that I\'ve played a year ago. That\'s one year ago! The PS2 is a huge disappointment to me, and I cannot speak more whole heartedly.
and......
Personally, I am so sick of waiting. Everyone is saying the good games like MGS2, Klonoa, Xenosaga, Gran Turismo 3, etc are coming soon. Remember when the prospect of Dark Cloud(Zelda killer!), The Bouncer(the best fighter ever!), Onimusha( the original makers of the Resident Evil) seem so enticing an alluring? Well all of them failed short of expectations! I think part of the reason why the future games on the PS2 will not impress me is because they are sequels of prior games and nothing fresh(except for Jax). How much longer do we have to wait until "Sony finally delivers?" I have given up on them a long time ago and I await with glee of what the other two competitors are bringing to the table. You can\'t blame me, I am a lover of videogames and not of only Sony.
When the PS2 comes out with more games suitable to my taste then I will support the system like before. Now\'s just not the time for me. This is all my opinion of course and I know many of you are happy with your purchase. Sorry for my rant and anti-PS2 attitude. [/B]
Well, actually I can follow your way of thinking here, and I don\'t blame you. I was disappointed with my PS2 as well and a result I sold it. Yes, I am in fact PS2-less now because I think it was way too expensive for what I was getting out of it at the time (I live in Europe mind you). I do plan on getting one at a later time, but it won\'t be until GT3/MGS2/SH2 I think - and I\'ll buy a used one w/ games. But having that said I do think you\'re being too critical about TM:B. Instead of being very suspicious of every new PS2 game I think you should focus on the positive things - and this game might be one if them. When Sony starts delivering again I\'ll get a PS2 again, but until that happens I\'ll live without one. Don\'t let the negative stuff get the best of you though Tshirts, or you might miss out on some great stuff. This applies to all systems, PS2 included. :)
BTW, tHe GaMe, please stop bumping threads with one worded posts.
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Well said Sammy!
im getting this game in about 45 minutes, ill post a review:D so far this is the only "bad" review that ive seen. i also dont understand why you think the graphics are bad... ign loved them, and they are the ultimate videogamers.....
here it is...
http://ps2.ign.com/reviews/15456.html
my guess is that there will be about 4 TM:B reviews today, by the end of the day.;)
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OK Tshirts, before you had my respect but now you don\'t. I sense you made this thread so you would ruin our fun and nothing else. Don\'t you think its kinda odd that from more than 3 big sites they give it a 9 and you give it a mere 7. It is so obvious why you made this thread, and that is to gripe about it to make us upset about it. You know it too. Don\'t act all innocent cuz we all know whats going on here and its stupid. So there you have it.
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I would like to commend TShirts 100%.
I happen to fully agree with him on this one. I haven\'t played TW:B myself and will probably purchase this game when I see it. I also think its a bit harsh to reduce a games score so much due to lack of innovation.
but...
I do agree! We all want PS2 to be a success, however blindly critising peoples opinions stating there wrong, stating they cause offense, speaks fanboy in volumes.
TShirts is completly right, we need some original games on this console. As far as TM:B is concerned it probably doesn\'t have any innovation over the previous games, like tekken tag over the tekkens and ridge racer 5 over the other ridge racers, and to some extend GT3 over previous GT\'s.
Fine decent sequals with nice graphics is ace, but where does it end ? Will you be really happy in a years time if you look at your games collection and find theres pretty much nothing new over your PS1 games collections except games with better graphics ?
I also agree about the PS2 being a disapointment and a lot of forum members jumping to hype of games, like the bouncer, zone of enders and onimusha warlords. I hope it does pick up but until then my PS2 is collecting dust, and my second hand DC has had more use.
This is worsened living in the UK where games like Onimusha Warlords and Darkcloud haven\'t even been released.
Hopefully the dust will be wiped off the PS2 soon and some decent gaming can begin once these are released here. :D
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Twisted Metal Black is one of hte hottest games out for the PS2 out now.
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well after a week of playing TM:B I must say
your review wasn\'t even in the ballpark
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well, i understand that some people dont like great games...but why post a review of a PS2 game in the console debate forum? Also, xbox fans (not fanboys) think that the PS2 is just making a bunch of sequals with lesser gameplay and just better graphics. Well, you mean to tell me that the XBOX2 wont have a halo 2/3 or another project ego game? The whole point in sequals is to keep people intrested and to make more money. So, every xbox game that is made better be original and none of the games better not have sequals or the xbox will be crap (sarcasm) Sorry by getting a little off topic...
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Why is Tshirts an idiot just cause he didn\'t like the game? Why is he a fanboy, an XBox fanboy, no less, just cause he\'s not happy with Sony and PS2? Just cause 3 top gaming sites gave the game high marks, Tshirts has to follow suit? Whatever happened to personal opinions?
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Originally posted by Ashford
Why is Tshirts an idiot just cause he didn\'t like the game? Why is he a fanboy, an XBox fanboy, no less, just cause he\'s not happy with Sony and PS2? Just cause 3 top gaming sites gave the game high marks, Tshirts has to follow suit? Whatever happened to personal opinions?
even though I can\'t stand Ashford, I agree with him here, T-Shirts didn\'t do anything wrong, he just posted his opinion
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Originally posted by Bozco
even though I can\'t stand Ashford, I agree with him here, T-Shirts didn\'t do anything wrong, he just posted his opinion
Just can\'t stand when someone expresses their thoughts in a civilized, non-flammatory manner, even when its to shut a loud mouth brat up, like you?
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Originally posted by Ashford
Why is Tshirts an idiot just cause he didn\'t like the game? Why is he a fanboy, an XBox fanboy, no less, just cause he\'s not happy with Sony and PS2? Just cause 3 top gaming sites gave the game high marks, Tshirts has to follow suit? Whatever happened to personal opinions?
cause his opinion is based of a personal hate not intelligence.
If your disspaointed with Sony and the PS2 then only an idiot would come to a PS2 based message board to state that.
I\'ve never gone to an Xbox or a Nintendo website to tell them they suck, and they don\'t know what there talking about. I
Its called respect and allowing people to like what they like and discuss what they like between themselves
Its just rude and aggravating that the immence amount of web based ibociles think forums are a right of passage to slam, spew garbage, and irritate those who like something they do not
A forum designed for fans of something should be for fans not people who in there need for attention and over zealous opinion
The only reson this debate forum was created is to house the small amounts of these imbociles that can\'t respect that this is a PS2 fan site and find it threatening that we don\'t share thier views.
and since this is a debate forum if our opinion counts as much as the next guys. Obviously they don\'t respect our opinion so why the F uck should we respect them
Oh and its way more than 3 top websited giving TMB a good review, I;ve seen two scores of 8.5 out of a dozen websites and magazines the rest are 9.0 or higher. I\'ve yet to hear anyone of 3 different PS2 forums say they are dissapointed in the game.
On top of this T-Shirts came into this forum and instantly started posting anti PS2 stuff. Its way to obvious his opinion is clouded by some hate for the system and SOny. We see this hate every single day from a few different people and they insist on sharing it with us. SO pardon us if we continually tell a few non PS2 fans that there opinions are garbage and have 0 merit which they do.
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
Tshirts
You said Graphics were only average at best but you gave them a 7, which is above average on a 1-10 scale.
Yo, you should really lighten up on your wording. I don\'t know why you have this aggressive mentality but no one is out to get you. You will make more friends if you are nice and if people are mean to you just ignore them, b/c then everyone will see they R an ASS.
Actually 7 would be average.... Thats 70% if you were going to use a grading scale which is a C....
-Ramon
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ddaryl...
I\'ll just laugh at your remarks and assume you don\'t know any better. Kids nowadays *sighs*
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First of all ddaryl...
It is just a f*ckin opinion! Get over it! I played the game, and I posted what I thought about it. That is my personal point of view! You might not agree with it, but it does not give you the right to tarnish my character as a result. Grow up for crying out loud! In the real world, not everyone will have the same opinion as you will. Even though I disagree with your review on TW: Black at least I have the courtesy to respect it. As I am aware, this is a discussion forum, and everything that is posted in here is open for some sort of discussion. Every individual in here has the right to present their views, and you have no right to tell me that mines is of no merit just because you don\'t happen to agree with it. Why don\'t you present your own views in contention to mines so we can open some sort of discussion instead of dismissing it altogether.
A forum designed for fans of something should be for fans not people who in there need for attention and over zealous opinion
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Umm hello! Earth to ddaryl! This is not a fanbase forum! It is a console debating forum for crying out loud! The whole point of these forums is for each individual to present their views on which system they deem as the most competive and to derive some sort of discussion off of that. Isn\'t this the whole concept of forums like this?
Do you know what else is funny ddaryl? I have seen you in various Sega forums such as UGO bragging about how much superior your beloved PS2 is. Now who is the annoying, pathetic fanboy that trolls around in forums trying to get a rise out of certain ppl? Someone got caught red handed. Haha!
Well, to end this....
I have lost all respect for this individual known as ddaryl. I would not be surprise if he was the one who has been erasing my post for whatever reasons(maybe he got angry because he couldn\'t refute it). What an emotionally discharge individual....*sighs*.
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:laughing:
Do you really think your opionion of me matters, there are a few people out there that don\'t like me and they all share the same trait.
Obviously you missed the point of my rant, you came here for one reason.... to slam a system. Do you really believe that deserves respect.
Like I said this forum was created to keep the dozen opionionated meatheads out of the main forum. We didn\'t create it because we wanted to trash systems.
You obviously can\'t figure this out. You showed up here and immediately started spewing Bull****. SO your review of this game is obviously a complete joke.
You want to grace us with reviews of PS2 games then you need to be here and prove your not another one of those over zealous SOny sucks type of people.
Otherwise anything you say/review instantly becomes crap.
Have a nice day :D
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TWO WORDS:
GROW UP!
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there are a few people out there that don\'t like me [/b]
*Gasp* really? Only a few?
You obviously can\'t figure this out. You showed up here and immediately started spewing Bull****. SO your review of this game is obviously a complete joke. [/b]
Yea let me guess, just because you don\'t happen to agree with me it automatically makes everything I say crap? OMG you must be the most ignorant individual I have ever encounter! If you had half a wit of brains you would of picked what I said and simply contend with it rather than attack my character and call me a raving fanboy with no merit of discussion. All you ever do is attack an individual\'s character rather than open a means of discussion with their viewpoint. Seriously, I am on the verge of ignoring such a blatantly rude, ignorant person as yourself.
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Go Tshirts Go....clap, clap!!
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Tshirts, ddaryl\'s logic is quite simple: if you don\'t like Sony and the games that come on their system then you are a zealot. Pretty ****ed up huh?
He\'s been like this since as long as I can remember, he attackes everybody that doesn\'t like Sony. Me, Ethugg, you, Altered Beast, etc. I find it hilarious. Just look at the garbage he speaks.
Like I said this forum was created to keep the dozen opionionated meatheads out of the main forum. We didn\'t create it because we wanted to trash systems.
Translation- I think this was created for the people who don\'t love Sony and aren\'t one of their mindless *****es.
I stop taking him seriously when he said J&D was a technical brilliance then has never been achieved before. Yeah, I still laugh at that. Your best bet is to ignore him, like I do.
Now watch his predictable upcomming reply. He\'ll call meJumplad(or some other being 14 related insult), say I\'m a joke, say I\'m a Nintendo fanboy, and use that laughing smiley(laughing: that I find quite repiditive now. Just watch.
EDIT- yeah, he\'s best reply is that damn laughing smiley again that he uses over and over again. This guy has issues.
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YEp I am laughing Jumplad
I do have issues
It comes from people who do not like SOny posting on a PS2 based forums
Why is this so hard for you to understand ???
Every single motherfuc_ing forum on the goddamn web has people who insist on talking trash every single goddamn day.
Its not just PS2 forums. MSXBox has tons of people trashing the XBox
I\'m sure Nintendo forums have the same problems, and it bothers me to the point of complete frustration
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Originally posted by ddaryl
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YEp I am laughing Jumplad
I do have issues
It comes from people who do not like SOny posting on a PS2 based forums
Why is this so hard for you to understand ???
Oops, you took that in a different way than I thought you would. Ah well.
Bleh. How do I put this.. You seem to have a problem with people who don\'t think Sony and their higher rated games are the best. You think that they\'re clearly better than everyone else and laugh at the people who don\'t.
And has it ever occured to you that thsi forum is more unbiased and filled with intelligent people than any other forum? That\'s why I come here.
Every single motherfuc_ing forum on the goddamn web has people who insist on talking trash every single goddamn day.
Well, this is console debating. :p And we\'re allowed to compare and examine the faults of each console, even PS2.
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Jumpman
I know I\'m an ass, but I get pissed off at the negativity some people feel they have to express.
Listen I don\'t expect people to love SOny or even like them, but they feel they need to share that with people who are satisfied
and I know this will be hard to believe but I do not think everything Sony does is the best. I do believe they have alot of kick ass **** to offer. TMB being one of the games ya just got to play
What I don\'t agree with is somelike T-Shirts coming into this forum slamming the machine and the company with opinion then a couple days later writing a review about the game that doesn\'t even come close to matching another single review of the game in the entire world.
TShirts is entitled to his opinion. This is a debate forum yes. Now we are debating why I find him to be completely non credible.
I should lightern up, and I\'m in a rather bad mood today But again I\'m so sick and tired of people saying this sucks and that sucks.
Again I never have or ever will go into another forum and trash a system even in debate forums
The only reason I come in here is because I find some entertainment and I do like people like Ho3j who has an open mind about everything. Even Ogodlything can post something I agree with
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Even Ogodlything can post something I agree with
Truly, I am touched!
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Truly, I am touched!
see I\'m not such a bastard after all, but damn I do try don\'t I
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Theogodlything, what do you look like?
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Theogodlything, what do you look like
Like a man. I\'m sorry what brought this about??
I will say this I\'m a health-Gym freak.
ANy of you guys out there want to learn how to get in shape, "The right way", wanna bulk up etc.. I\'m the man to talk to, No bull**** with me, like those money driven muscle magazines which are full of crap.
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Heh. I dunno. I just wanted to change the subject. I look like a guitar player covered in tatoos.
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What I don\'t agree with is somelike T-Shirts coming into this forum slamming the machine and the company with opinion then a couple days later writing a review about the game that doesn\'t even come close to matching another single review of the game in the entire world.
TShirts is entitled to his opinion. This is a debate forum yes. Now we are debating why I find him to be completely non credible. [/b]
Its funny how you don\'t find me credible considering almost every fanboy in here, and across the site whom have played TW: Black are just totally kissing Sony\'s a*s. I think you should stop reading another fanboy\'s point of view and start listening to someone who isn\'t swayed by any sort of favoritism whatsoever. I have a PS2, and I currently own a DC also. I am sure TW: Black compared to other games on the system would be a great title, but quite frankly when the game is put up against other titles from various systems, and not just the PS2 it is not all that great. Let\'s face it, the PS2 simply does not have that many hits as oppose to the competition. In fact, I have never seen such a low profile of games before on any given system save perhaps the Jaguar, 3DO and 32X, so of course from a fanboy\'s point of view it is a gift from god.
Another thing, regardless if you disagree with my views or not, I still present it in an intuitive, honest manner that covers almost all aspects of the game. It is a well written review from the most critical perspective possible. If I am being harsh on the game, so be it. I just simply expected more, but to call me biased and to just throw my whole opinion aside and say I don\'t have any merit is down right ludicrous on your part. I don\'t have any hate towards Sony, and I am "not out to get them" like you have led ppl to believe. I am a gamer first and foremost, and I really did have high hopes for TW: Black. Just because the game is on the PS2 does not make it a lesser quality title. It has nothing to do with what system it is on or who made it. I just don\'t find many innovations in it and the game simply failed to impress me. That is the reason why I gave it the review it did.
Don\'t forget I own the system too just like you.
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Hey Tshirts, you are basically saying that every body that likes TM:B is a Sony fanboy?
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No.....
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TShirts once again you prove how much of a meat head you are
This has nothing to do with other people on forums as much as it does with the dozen other reivews of TMB none of which gave the game less then 8.5 and the other 10 had 9\'s or above.
Whats makes this whole thing funny is you think you have it right and everyone else is blind and lying. Of course your the only truthful one out there and everyone else is kissing SOnys ass, and the 100\'s odf thousands of people playing TMB are all blinded and only think they\'re having an awesome time.
The game plain and simply rocks, your opinion is yours, but its a joke. Your 1st post in ths forum was al long anti sony rant which you proclaimed your dissapointment and then you review a agme which was obviously biased by your blind Sony hate.
You just can\'t stand the fact that lots of people are having a great time playing games on the PS2, and everyone but you is loving TMB.
Your reivew is a joke, its laughable beyond your own comprehension
meanwhile Ogodlything and Animalmother are scaring me
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I bet all you guys are putting crap in your bodies and don\'t even realize the mental and physical damage you are doing. Time to get in SHAPE BOYS, as Bill Philips said” BODY FOR LIFE"
If you eat right and get your body into shape you will feel like a millions bucks. Don\'t be tricked by other bulked up people, there are allot of big muscle body builders that are in horrible shape. You must eat and train right to have the ultimate body.
Your mental focus will increase, as well as seritonum levels(which make you feel good, alive, happy)
When looking for a gym to sign up scope all the gyms in your area out, take a tour of each of them, look and see the Varity of equipment they have, look and see if the equipment is in good condition, that it get\'s maintained well, also see the gym hours, many gyms are open real early and close real late like at 11:00pm. Some gyms even are 24 hours.
Anyhow chumps get your Asses over to the gym, I PROMISE YOU, that you will Thank me so much for getting you over there, once you see the benefits
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Its called respect and allowing people to like what they like and discuss what they like between themselves
So how is this respect for Tshirts? Calling him an idiot and saying his opinions are a joke? Has Tshirts made you wanna play the game any less? Has Tshirts prohibited you from discussing what you like with other fans?
Its just rude and aggravating that the immence amount of web based ibociles think forums are a right of passage to slam, spew garbage, and irritate those who like something they do not
What about the other imbeciles who bash other consoles? I won\'t mention names but I\'m sure most people here know who they are. While this is a PS2 website, this IS the forum for debating consoles, after all. I mean, we get a new anti-XBox thread every day. Why are these people not called idiots? Just cause they happen to be proud PS2 owners?
and since this is a debate forum if our opinion counts as much as the next guys. Obviously they don\'t respect our opinion so why the F uck should we respect them
So, how did Tshirts disrespect your opinion? Did he call you an idiot? Did he say you were way off base with your review?
What I don\'t agree with is somelike T-Shirts coming into this forum slamming the machine and the company with opinion then a couple days later writing a review about the game that doesn\'t even come close to matching another single review of the game in the entire world.
So what if every single gaming site and publication loved the game??? Are you saying they speak for everyone? Its all personal opinion.
TShirts is entitled to his opinion. This is a debate forum yes. Now we are debating why I find him to be completely non credible.
I thought this was a CONSOLE debate forum, not a MEMBER debate forum.
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By the way, if everyone here just posted pro-PS2 messages, this would be one boring place.
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Originally posted by Ashford
By the way, if everyone here just posted pro-PS2 messages, this would be one boring place.
Amen to that!!!!!!!! That\'s why its a forum.
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Originally posted by Ashford
Just can\'t stand when someone expresses their thoughts in a civilized, non-flammatory manner, even when its to shut a loud mouth brat up, like you?
This is funny, I was choosing not to fight but you insist
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
I bet all you guys are putting crap in your bodies and don\'t even realize the mental and physical damage you are doing. Time to get in SHAPE BOYS, as Bill Philips said” BODY FOR LIFE"
Hey, I never thought this would happen, we both agree, besides gaming opinion we are alike, during the summer all I do is play games and work out, I have to train for cross country, im also hoping to get my mile into the 4:50\'s, right now I\'m at a 5:10, maybe we can get a good conversation going after all
and sorry everyone for the double post
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Give 5 good reasons why you come here.
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Yes Bozco working out in the gym is very important as well as eating right, IN general "Staying in SHAPE"
I work out all year round, cause if you stop you begin to lose the muscle and your overall shape, and health of your body.
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TheOgodlything, I work out alot, but I only weigh about 140LBS.
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I don\'t work out. The way I see it, I\'ll have to cintinue working out for the rest of my life if I want to stay in shape. So. . . if I put it off to later, then I won\'t have to work as much. ;)
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Yes Bozco working out in the gym is very important as well as eating right, IN general "Staying in SHAPE"
I work out all year round, cause if you stop you begin to lose the muscle and your overall shape, and health of your body.
thats my problem, i get lazy in the winter and I stop working out, if I worked out all year I have the ability to be an amazing athlete, im hoping to get my varsity letter in cross country this year, you have to get a 17:59 in the 5k to letter
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Boring...
Lets close this thread, T-Shirts had an opinion, big deal.
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ALLS I GOTTA SAY IS YOU ARE A COMPLETE DUMB ASS AND YOU DON\'T KNOW A GREAT GAME WHEN YOU SEE IT. TM:BLACK IS SUCH A REVOLUTIONARY GAME THAT I CAN\'T BIGIN TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH OF A ***** CAKE YOU ARE.HERE\'S MY OWN PS2 LOVEN REVIEW.
GRAPHICS:9:WHEN YOU FIRST START THE GAME THE RESOLUTION BLEW ME AWAY AND THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL ON SCREEN IS FANTASTIC.
GAMEPLAY:10:I NEVER HAD SO MUCH FUN WITH THIS TYPE OF GAME IT WAS A BLAST!AND THE MUSIC CHANGING TO MY ACTIONS WAS A GREAT TOUCH, IT BRINGS THE GAME ALIVE.
SOUND:10:THE FREAKY MUSIC FITS THE GAME PERFECTLY AND THE EXPLOTIONS SOUND OUT OF THIS WORLD!
OVERALL:10:IT\'S ALL THERE YOU GOT GREAT GAMEPLAY WONDERFUL GRAPHICS AND SUPERB MUSIC THAT MAKE THE WAIT FOR THIS TWISTED ALL WORTH YOUR WHILE
WELL THERE YOU HAVE IT MY REVIEW OF THE BEST PS2 GAME YO COME OUT THUS FAR.
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Please shut up you FAG!! and go back to spam city
Stop spamming these boards TOM, or else you mommy will ground you.