PSX5Central

Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: fastson on June 23, 2001, 02:11:36 PM

Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 23, 2001, 02:11:36 PM
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_24.jpg&hash=4fee0fabd808cd1fe03975a6268b6b11f3933a80)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_5.jpg&hash=38d067c20ad2d46eb96e8d306aa2c06429d478a3)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_1.jpg&hash=12df17a9c999e3bc058e13a7b5fe93343f3826d6)

I played DoA2 and it had alot of jaggies, poor textures ect..

These might be from the HardCore version of the game..
Anybody know??

Cuz these screens dont look that far away from DoA3..
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 02:17:28 PM
Quote
I played DoA2 and it had alot of jaggies, poor textures ect


What do you expect with it running on a PS2. ANyhow is it me or does that game look like it\'s running on a DC?
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 23, 2001, 02:21:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing


What do you expect with it running on a PS2.



And just what do you mean by that??
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 02:31:54 PM
Quote
And just what do you mean by that??


You know very well what I mean by that, Sony should have named there system JaggieStation2(just kidding with you) . To many mistakes on the system, one of the biggest was not including Hardware AA.  Software AA will never match the quality and performace of Hardware.

It\'s stupid that in order to get average AA on playstaion2, developers must sacrifice performance, not other way around it. Only cartooney games might get away with this.

To this day I still can\'t undersand why Sony never put Hardware AA in the system design, then again they didn\'t put more than 4mb internal cache in the system either.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 23, 2001, 02:35:49 PM
All screens taken from IGN!
PS2 (http://ps2.ign.com/reviews/15079.html)
DC (http://dreamcast.ign.com/reviews/11026.html)

PS2
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_10.jpg&hash=963fcc1dfb191090a0f07303806801215ba45d68)

DC
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdcmedia.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fdeadoralive2%2Fdoa2dc%2Fbg12.jpg&hash=845c48279c2ce46624728ef1106b17e89d9eee69)

----------

PS2
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_23.jpg&hash=7bd582938f90ab1a3190f4bcf28bfbdd14b0818e)

DC
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdcmedia.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fdeadoralive2%2Fdoa2dc%2Fbg14.jpg&hash=873aa2c85f1acf3ff74022c04dde1ed7fe4a7ca9)

--------

PS2
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_26.jpg&hash=dd3bcea8587b8925248ba55070f16afaf9be4eaf)

DC
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdcmedia.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fdeadoralive2%2Fdoa2dc%2Fbg21.jpg&hash=3eb5125b8e46fb9799ef206b7c58e76e6a381181)


Well it looks like IGN has the DC pictures compressed..
I dont know..

But now I know for a fact that those PS2 screens are from the Hardcore version :)
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 23, 2001, 02:39:49 PM
Oh, quit *****ing about that jaggies issue..
Its dead..


Developers now know how to get AA.. and FSAA..

Sonys plan is that PS2 should be on the market for about 5 years..Then the PS3 comes along and takes over..

I dont really know why they didnt include AA in the hardware..
Perhaps because they wanted developers to be able to come up with diffrent ways, better ways..
I mean, 5 years is along time..


Just a though..
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 02:44:26 PM
Quote
Oh, quit *****ing about that jaggies issue..
Its dead..




I agree, but I never said that PS2 couldn\'t do AA, In summery I was saying that it can\'t do AA nearly as well as HARDWARE and if ps2 does use AA, performance must be sacrificed. So this then leads me to my next point, maybe the developers of DOA2 didn\'t want to sacrfice performance for smoother grpahics, considering ps2 was still new to them.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: 182Ways on June 23, 2001, 02:45:13 PM
To answer the question that was originally asked:  

Yes, DoA2: Hardcore did look that good.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 02:47:45 PM
Quote
Yes, DoA2: Hardcore did look that good.


I expected alot better considering Soul Calibur for the DC looked the same to me graphics wise.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 23, 2001, 02:49:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by 182Ways
To answer the question that was originally asked:  

Yes, DoA2: Hardcore did look that good.


Damn, I cant understand why they didnt release it here in europe?
Were the sales bad??

Anyways, DoA2HC looks almost as good as DoA3..
Dont you think??
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: datamage on June 23, 2001, 02:56:24 PM
Quote
I expected alot better considering Soul Calibur for the DC looked the same to me graphics wise.


Figures why you think the X-box is leagues above the PS2. DOA2 is considerably throwing around more polys. Has much more background depth and more defined characters. Overall it is pushing tons more than SC.

** Not saying that DOA2 is a better game, I prefer SC, but technically DOA2 has more in the gfx department. And to me DOA3 doesn\'t look leagues above DOA2.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Heretic on June 23, 2001, 03:04:51 PM
By all accounts DOA2 for the Japan PS2 launch was pretty nasty, by the same token the Hardcore version for PS2 looked slightly better than the DC DOA2, although one review I read claimed the controls on Hc were a bit sluggish. I hear combined sales on the two systems of the four versions of almost the exact same game did poorly. Doesn\'t make DOA3 sound like a must have title now does it.

So to be honest fatson, I don\'t know what version you saw. I will say the in game shots from DOA3 I saw posted during E3 are no big deal. In game the backgrounds look much better but the detail of the fighters themselves in action is nothing to brag on.  

http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=5655255&replies=26

Unless you get to move a lot with no other characters on the screen, most of the shots shown are just CG
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 03:05:06 PM
Quote
. And to me DOA3 doesn\'t look leagues above DOA2
Quote


I understand where you are comming from, Myself I never cared for DOA series, but let me say this DOA3 for XBOX was running on beta alpha2 development kits, and still look tons bette rthan DO2 for PS2. Just imagine what the final version will look like, and how well it will perform, smooth as silk.

As for SC, granted DO2 is pushing more, but SC still look just as good.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: datamage on June 23, 2001, 03:08:33 PM
Quote
I understand where you are comming from, Myself I never cared for DOA series, but let me say this DOA3 for XBOX was running on beta alpha2 development kits, and still look tons bette rthan DO2 for PS2. Just imagine what the final version will look like, and how well it will perform, smooth as silk.

As for SC, granted DO2 is pushing more, but SC still look just as good.


Fair enough. But you must also remember that DOA2 for the PS2 was merely a port of the Naomi version. By no means was it pushing the PS2. Soul Calibur has amazing animation and textures. That\'s why it looks great. I just meant technically DOA2 is doing more than SC. Like I said, I prefer SC anyhow.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Deadly Hamster on June 23, 2001, 03:10:38 PM
i never want to believe hype , i like ps2 the most now , well becaus its the only one ( besides DC ) wich i can play right now , id rather not listen to hype caus sony sorta screwed me over on the 10 times better then DC or all that stuff they were saying....
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 23, 2001, 03:14:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing


but let me say this DOA3 for XBOX was running on beta alpha2 development kits, and still look tons bette rthan DO2 for PS2. Just imagine what the final version will look like, and how well it will perform, smooth as silk.


:rolleyes: I wonder how long MS will keep saying that?
Til launchday perhaps??
(j/k)


I would like to see a fighing game pushing the PS2 :)
Like TTT, it used "only" 5%..
Lets hope for Tekken 4, SC2 or VF4 :)
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: IronFist on June 23, 2001, 03:45:53 PM
How did we get off on this PS2=jaggie tangent?  I think Fastson said he played DOA2 (On the Dreamcast or the Japanese PS2 version?  Correct me if I\'m wrong) and it had jaggies.  He never said DOA2:HC had jaggies.  Yes, those pics are from DOA2:HC.  And no, there are no jaggies.  Not all the developers had trouble doing FSAA on their launch titles.  This game is a perfect example of that.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: soundifound on June 23, 2001, 06:43:59 PM
DOA2 from what I\'ve seen from the demo has some jaggies.  Maybe its because I\'m using component cables which sometimes enhances them.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 07:11:52 PM
Quote
Anyways, DoA2HC looks almost as good as DoA3..



Keep dreaming, these DOA3 pics are running using Beta Kits.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.totalvideogames.com%2Fsrcupload%2F03Ie3_hybs0-01.jpg&hash=94529feaf72c88cfba21fb051cbb142368b6e1aa)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.totalvideogames.com%2Fsrcupload%2F07Ie3_krt1-01.jpg&hash=0d34266107710271a7d1392f38fb3d95ad1003b9)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgamespot.com%2Fgamespot%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fe3_2001%2Fvg%2Fxbox%2Fdoa3%2Fdeadoralive3_b2_screen010.jpg&hash=2fa6d50bb6fc7626629ca56a4586f53653bdadda)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgamespot.com%2Fgamespot%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fe3_2001%2Fvg%2Fxbox%2Fdoa3%2Fdeadoralive3_b2_screen012.jpg&hash=475b7de7a3e5453e92431ec137a9ab128ed25956)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgamespot.com%2Fgamespot%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fe3_2001%2Fvg%2Fxbox%2Fdoa3%2Fdeadoralive3_b2_screen011.jpg&hash=6e969666fc56c70366daeb62a69d4ffac49d0c41)
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 07:14:44 PM
opps, double click!
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: cloud345 on June 23, 2001, 08:38:22 PM
That DOA3 or HC?
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 08:40:20 PM
Take one guess!
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: cloud345 on June 23, 2001, 08:48:55 PM
Oops! Didn\'t see top.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Nu on June 23, 2001, 08:53:50 PM
I can see what they\'re saying though, TOGT. The current build of DOA3 that we see right now isn\'t that big of a leap from DOA2:HC. I do expect the final version to look tons better, though.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Faithdies on June 23, 2001, 08:56:04 PM
OOOOHHHHHHHH!!!!!
We get to fight waterfalls and Trees in DOA3?
I cant wait.
Ive always wanted a game where we kick mother natures ass.

BTW: That Beta excuse is getting so OLD.
If the Xbox is so close to launch, dont you think that developers would have some pics to show from the Final Hardware.
Unless those "beta" dev kits are the final hardware.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 08:58:00 PM
Quote
BTW: That Beta excuse is getting so OLD


Not at all, there have been no offical final dev pic yet, so chill out my friend.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: cloud345 on June 23, 2001, 08:58:20 PM
Quote
If the Xbox is so close to launch, dont you think that developers would have some pics to show from the Final Hardware.
                          Unless those "beta" dev kits are the final hardware.



 X-Box will not come out until 2002 in europe,
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: TheOgodlyThing on June 23, 2001, 09:53:25 PM
Quote
X-Box will not come out until 2002 in europe,


So!!! Many of us here live in america, wont effect us.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Samwise on June 23, 2001, 11:46:57 PM
Ogodly... I think you\'re pushing it here. DoA2 looked absolutely fabulous on PS2 IMHO. No jaggies or anything, I don\'t know where Fastson got that from. And Fast, the version called DoA2 here is the DoA2: Hardcore version in the US. It\'s not lesser in anyway - including graphics.

And OGodly, your passion for Xbox shouldn\'t make you talk $h|t about PS2 when it\'s not entirely fair. That\'s just stupid and I hope you won\'t degrade yourself to that level again.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: IronFist on June 23, 2001, 11:52:23 PM
TheOgodlyThing, we know it is using the beta hardware with half the power of the real Xbox.  You don\'t have to tell us in every post.  From now on, just assume that we know that, because most of us are sick of hearing it.

I am thinking it is going to turn out a lot like the PS2 did (here me out please.)  One reason the PS2 suffered early on is because the Dev kits came way too late.  I think what we are seeing now is what we\'ll see on the launch day, and we won\'t see anything take advantage of all that power until the second generation (again, it\'s a lot like the PS2 in that way).  Of course, this is just speculation on my part just like you saying "Just imagine what the final version will look like, and how well it will perform, smooth as silk" is speculation on your part.

BTW, I am in no way doubting the Xbox\'s power.  I think if they advertise right, they will easily steal the market from Nintendo this fall.  Who knows, maybe Nintendo will take the path of Sega? (Ok, I know I\'m dreaming. :))  The general gaming audience likes two things, good graphics and well known franchises (i.e. Mario).  If they see that the Xbox can produce way better graphics than the NGC (which it can), they will be persuaded to buy the Xbox over the NGC.

You may be wondering, "So where\'s Sony?"  Right now, I\'m thinking there is not much Sony can do to fight against this.  With two new systems coming out, the hype for the PS2 will die down exponentially.  All eyes will be on the Xbox and NGC.  I think Sony is just going to have to sit back and hope it doesn\'t hurt them too bad.  Until then though, Sony better be trying to sell the PS2 like mad if they want to compete this fall! :)


JC632X, I think that is just the demo.  The final version looks great.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 03:19:42 AM
I just don\'t see how Doa2 looks like doa3.

Xbox-doa3
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgamespot.com%2Fgamespot%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fe3_2001%2Fvg%2Fxbox%2Fdoa3%2Fdeadoralive3_b2_screen006.jpg&hash=6faba134ae92d62b39998d7a106554a117aa0c3d)
ps2-doa2hc
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgamespot.com%2Fgamespot%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fps2%2Fdoa2hardcore%2Fdoa2hardcore_1101_screen022.jpg&hash=ed09c1c375b25f04d0644895470f804b2b94b908)
doa3-
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgamespot.com%2Fgamespot%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fe3_2001%2Fvg%2Fxbox%2Fdoa3%2Fdeadoralive3_b2_screen013.jpg&hash=31d09800eb822c27c45f65e9dde9c49fe0b28ee3)
doa2hc
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgamespot.com%2Fgamespot%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fps2%2Fdoa2hardcore%2Fdoa2hardcore_1101_screen001.jpg&hash=f807600939196f569c2bc1bb2e68a71075266919)

I just don\'t see how you can say the games looks a like. Even on early hardware doa3 looks much better doahc. Doa2hc is good looking game, but honestly you cannot say that these 2 games look the same.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 24, 2001, 03:25:48 AM
I havent tried the demo yet..

Maybe I was drunk when I played DoA2 ;)
Im gonna go and see if it has jaggies or not..

XBOX- why dont you compare DoA3 screens with DoA2HC screens from IGN?

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_20.jpg&hash=58300af526ee000db76c8add7b3ac14c824047bb)
Like this one.. Not far off if you ask me!
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 03:30:35 AM
I don\'t compare the IGN SCREENS because they are old screens way back from TGS and gamespot has new screens from E3. So it is only fair to compare current screens of doa3 right.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 24, 2001, 03:32:11 AM
Nope..

The DoA2HC screens are from when they reviewed the game..
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 24, 2001, 03:34:31 AM
DoA3
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgamespot.com%2Fgamespot%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fe3_2001%2Fvg%2Fxbox%2Fdoa3%2Fdeadoralive3_b2_screen013.jpg&hash=31d09800eb822c27c45f65e9dde9c49fe0b28ee3)

DoA2HC
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_21.jpg&hash=51c135ba953e2058971d8803060b0586d63082f2)

More fair!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm,
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 24, 2001, 03:35:39 AM
holy crap, that was one fantastic looking screenshot Fastson...it really does look every bit as good as DoA3..unlike what XBOX was posting, they were just **** screen shots...like they were enlarged or something
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 03:41:58 AM
Fastson they reviewed the game at TGS. And that last screen of doa2 you showed not an in game pic but rather a FMV pic.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 24, 2001, 03:47:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by XBOX
Fastson they reviewed the game at TGS. And that last screen of doa2 you showed not an in game pic but rather a FMV pic.


:laughing: You cant have played DoA2 if you think that is FMV!?
Nope.. Its realtime..

A cutscene thats realtime, and it uses the models that is in the game.
If you\'ve played DoA2 you\'d know.

DoA2HC looks that good.. Now drop it!
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 03:49:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by fastson


:laughing: You cant have played DoA2 if you think that is FMV!?
Nope.. Its realtime..

A cutscene thats realtime, and it uses the models that is in the game.
If you\'ve played DoA2 you\'d know.

DoA2HC looks that good.. Now drop it!


LOL now your really being a fanboy. LOOK at the previews in game fighting scene you showed of doa2hc it looks nothing like the FMV cut scene you just showed. If doa2hc looks that good then how come none of the previous in game fighting scenes look like that? Because what you showed was just a FMV cut scence.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 24, 2001, 03:52:49 AM
Oh really??

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_24.jpg&hash=4fee0fabd808cd1fe03975a6268b6b11f3933a80)

Damn, I really need to stop posting pics! :D
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 03:54:15 AM
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_21.jpg&hash=51c135ba953e2058971d8803060b0586d63082f2)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_24.jpg&hash=4fee0fabd808cd1fe03975a6268b6b11f3933a80)

You really can\'t tell huh? Look at the detail in the first one. Look at the tectures and the lighting. Now look at the second one. Are you drinking now?
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 24, 2001, 04:00:30 AM
Quote
Originally posted by XBOX
You really can\'t tell huh? I dare you too compare all your pic to this one. And the one you just posted is the only one so far that comes close, but it looks nothing like this. ARE you drinking right now?


dood, are YOU drinking right now...it is the EXACT same model, there is NO DIFFERENCE, anyone can back us up on that.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 04:04:41 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware


dood, are YOU drinking right now...it is the EXACT same model, there is NO DIFFERENCE, anyone can back us up on that.


Yes it is the same exact model of the same person. Just not the same graphical wise. Those two do not look the same. DO you see the lighting in the first one? Do you see how much detail that is in the first one compared to second one? THe first one is just a FMV cut scene.

Look at the clothes. In the first one they look more realistic, but in the second one they are more cartoony.
Firt pic is nothing but an FMV cut scene.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 24, 2001, 04:08:41 AM
Quote
Originally posted by XBOX


You really can\'t tell huh? Look at the detail in the first one. Look at the tectures and the lighting. Now look at the second one. Are you drinking now?



Lighting? Well thats because he\'s in a diffrent area than the first pic.
In the first pic he\'s in the woods or something..
In the second he\'s outside of the woods where its much lighter..

And about the textures..
What are you talking about, they are the same..

DoA2 uses the same models in cutscense as it does in the game(ingame)..
Thats a fact..
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 04:24:17 AM
DOA2 uses the same models in cut scenes....lol

That is why you trying to compare one pic to a cut scene. SEE the difference. They look nothing a like.
The first one as a more realistic look. While the second one as a more cartoony look.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_21.jpg&hash=51c135ba953e2058971d8803060b0586d63082f2)
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fps2media.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fpreviews%2Fimage%2Fhard%2Fhard_20.jpg&hash=58300af526ee000db76c8add7b3ac14c824047bb)

Yeah sure doahc looks good but not as good as your making it out too be.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 24, 2001, 04:41:05 AM
You cant compare diffrent models!

Trust me.. It uses the same models ingame as it does in the realtime cutscense.

There is no CG videos in DoA2..

If you have played the game, you\'d know!

Nope.. DoA2HC looks that good..

Ask anyone who owns it..
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 05:11:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by fastson
You cant compare diffrent models!

Trust me.. It uses the same models ingame as it does in the realtime cutscense.

There is no CG videos in DoA2..

If you have played the game, you\'d know!

Nope.. DoA2HC looks that good..

Ask anyone who owns it..


wELL i had th game before trading it in. And if you can\'t compare models. Then how are you saying that the game looks as good as one cut scene? Doa2 looks good, but your taking it way to far.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: datamage on June 24, 2001, 07:17:51 AM
Quote
Fastson they reviewed the game at TGS. And that last screen of doa2 you showed not an in game pic but rather a FMV pic.


Not quite. DOA2:HC is all in real-time. There\'s no mode-switch. As fastson already pointed out, it\'s the same in-game. I\'ve had DOA2 since the DC, and then I had the PS2 version for a while. I\'ve played it tons. If you think DOA3 is much better looking than DOA2, then good for you. I sure as hell don\'t think it does.

- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: fastson on June 24, 2001, 07:49:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by datamage


Not quite. DOA2:HC is all in real-time. There\'s no mode-switch. As fastson already pointed out, it\'s the same in-game. I\'ve had DOA2 since the DC, and then I had the PS2 version for a while. I\'ve plauyed it tons. If you think DOA3 is much better looking than DOA2, then good for you. I sure as hell don\'t think it does.


I agree :)
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 24, 2001, 08:28:45 AM


Thank You.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 08:44:58 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
  • DOA2:HC uses the same game engine for the cut scenes. So it is all in game graphics. Now, I am sorry if you cannot tell the difference bewteen FMV and ingame graphics. But, DOA2 uses ingame graphics for its cinemas.
  • DOA3 looks good. But, it isn\'t that impressive. Still,  MS says its an early beta. So, who knows? It may improve and it may not. Either way it will sell plenty. Then again, I don\'t think T4 looks impressive.
  • The DOA series sucks in general.


Thank You. [/B]


iF YOU Say so I agree.  Not on the part the Doa series sucks though:)
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Sublimesjg on June 24, 2001, 11:34:53 AM
amazing how one person can change ones mind

anyhow for the most part i don\'t see why you wouldn\'t trust some of the people that stated it before

and you see now they were right

i also agree about DOA2:HC not sucking - it rulez
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 24, 2001, 11:46:19 AM
I should of probably mentioned that the \'sucking\' part was personal opinion.


 Personally, I think DOA3 will look great. Tecmo is a great developer as they proved with the DC and PS2 (more so on the DC tho, IMHO). Given the power of the Xbox and ease of development, they should be able to provide beautiful results.

It should be interesting this year.. The release of Virtua Fighter 4, Tekken 4 and DOA3. Which will look the best? And which will get the most attenion from the consumers and critics?
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: QuDDus on June 24, 2001, 04:25:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sublimesjg
amazing how one person can change ones mind

anyhow for the most part i don\'t see why you wouldn\'t trust some of the people that stated it before

and you see now they were right

i also agree about DOA2:HC not sucking - it rulez


It\'s not that I did not respect the others opinion I was just debating it. And finally after L.I.C. post I just came to realization that everyone else was right. Nothing person I agree with everyone else I just quoted him because he was last to post on it. Nothing personal I just could not quote everyone else and say I agree with you all.
Title: Did DoA2(HC?) really look this good??
Post by: Hawke on June 25, 2001, 01:43:54 AM
I\'ve played the European version of DOA2, and I thought it looked horrible. Previously I had thought that jaggies are nothing to complain about, but this game changed my mind. It was one huge flickerfest. Maybe it was the monitor they demo\'d the game on, but the sharp jaggies left a deep scar in my soul.