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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Ethan_Hunt on July 02, 2001, 12:15:37 PM
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Ok here is a link from computer and videogames,which suggest that the next shenmue,will be on the Xbox,because the ps2 isnt up to it!
Here is the link,take a look for yourself.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/story.cfm?sid=2963
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Well, if this rumor turns out to be true, then I\'ll definately be getting an XBox.
I don\'t see how PS2 isn\'t up to it, considering how DC can handle it. Oh well, I don\'t care what happens, as long as the game comes out somewhere.
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Elassino did you not forget that XBOX has a HDD. PS2 is not up to it, nor is gamecube. Sure they could make Shenmue for those systems, but that would be waste, IMO
SEGA is not stupid, they know that the HDD can take shenmue to a whole new level of gaming that PS2 or gamecube simply can\'t match.
I wouldn\'t be the slightest bit surprised if Shenmue was indeed to be developed for XBOX.
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if Shenmue was to be continued i would like to see it for the XBox. I think the added textures would help this game. :D
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
Elassino did you not forget that XBOX has a HDD. PS2 is not up to it, nor is gamecube. Sure they could make Shenmue for those systems, but that would be waste, IMO
SEGA is not stupid, they know that the HDD can take shenmue to a whole new level of gaming that PS2 or gamecube simply can\'t match.
I wouldn\'t be the slightest bit surprised if Shenmue was indeed to be developed for XBOX.
Isn\'t ps2 coming out with a hardrive with FFX?
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Originally posted by raslant
Isn\'t ps2 coming out with a hardrive with FFX?
Sure it will have a hardrive. But there is a problem here, Sega would be developing a game and hoping a certain amount of people are gurantee\'d to own a hardrive, then they have to hope those with the hardrive will be gurantee\'d to buy the game. That is alot of guess work and hoping just to sell a game. So it would make more sense for them to develop it for the Xbox, where they know their target sells.
There is no hoping that alot of people bought the hardrive and no hoping that those who did buy it will actually buy the game.
This is the problem that has and always will plague add-ons.
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Hrmph.,
Seems the only reason I\'ll be getting that 2 ton box is for my beloved SEGA.
- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
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same with me data. That and add in a little Peter Molyneaux love and you will see what I want in X-Box. I see it as Sega\'s favorite system.
ELasesino, you will also have to realize that Shenmue is 1999. WHen the next one after 2 comnes out, something huge will have to be a part of it. Hardrive built in will only make sense.
Eric Jacob
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yea i think the HDD might sell well though and if so - i am referring to after sales... i hope a bunch of devs would take advantage of it and use it - thats a pretty big hope though
i personally will probaly get a HDD for my PS2
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oh damn...just imagine how good this game will look on these systems..grrrlrlrlrr
but i thought Yu Suzuki was a fan of the PS2\'s architecture and wanted to unlock its capabilities...eh well...we shall see now wont we
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Thast funny bob....Yu sazuki a fan of the PS2\'s hardware??? That was probully before he got introduced to the xbox:D He is like sega\'s Miyamoto! if he were such a fan of its hardware the he would have gotten SEGA to support the ps2 whole heartedly and we KNOW thats not the case is it. We know were sega\'s heart is.....and its with XBOX.
Yu Sazuki is going to want that hard drive for his MASTER PIECES (hes ALL ABOUT INNOVATION)....and the xbox is the only system that we KNOW for sure people will have a hard drive cause its ALREADY in!!!
And NOW that the ps2 hard drive has been stated at a price of 150.00 dollars I think the chances of ps2 getting the series is doubtful....
And lets not forget the FIRST shenmue had online elements...Nothing to big but I BET Yu SAZUKI wants to do more stuff online....and doesnt the xbox have online capabilities right out of the box?? why yes.....yes it does:D I guess SAZUKI does not have to worry about that either.
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Originally posted by Soul_Reaver
Thast funny bob....Yu sazuki a fan of the PS2\'s hardware??? That was probully before he got introduced to the xbox:D He is like sega\'s Miyamoto! if he were such a fan of its hardware the he would have gotten SEGA to support the ps2 whole heartedly and we KNOW thats not the case is it. We know were sega\'s heart is.....and its with XBOX.
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You really need to brush up on all this. Suzuki has stated plenty of times he wants to unlock all of the power of the PS2 because he was impressed with it, concerning porting over titles like VF4..
I also truly doubt Suzuki could influence all of Sega to pledge support to one console, when there is many divisions and he doesn\'t head up all of them or near all of them. Not to mention, Sega is a third party developer. They will develop for other companies. They do this, because they make more money like this.
There is plenty of reasons on why Shenmue 3 could be on the Xbox, I will not argue those, as I actually expect it. But, I do argue that Sega\'s heart is with the Xbox, when infact, they are spacing titles out bewteen all the companies. While plenty have been announced for the Xbox, there is still quite a few Sega franchises un-accounted for (Sonic? Hello!) that could end up on any system. I\'m also sure that if Sega\'s heart was dedicated to the Xbox, they would of gave MS a huge title such as VF4, because lets face it, that is a huge title and a gurantee\'d bit hit for Sony\'s PS2.
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Originally posted by Soul_Reaver
We know were sega\'s heart is.....and its with XBOX.
If Sega\'s heart it with the Xbox, then why is Virtua Fighter 4, one of Sega\'s top franchises, coming exclusively to the PS2? Why is the Sonic team programming on the NGC? Sega supports all consoles just about equally. I will admit that Shen Mue 2(sp?) has a great chance of coming out on the Xbox. The only thing that would be stopping it is bad sales of the Xbox in Japan. Only time will tell if the Xbox is successful, and until then, Shen Mue 2 coming to the Xbox is not a sure thing.
EDIT: Darn, Living-In-Clip beat me to it. :)
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Last time I checked Vitial fighter was NOT a big seller!! In fact I know it was not. And Virtual fighter 4 may not be as well.And sonic is with nintendo for a very strategic reason....nintendo KNOWS how to juice the hell out of its character franchises....they have been using the same character since the FIRST nintendo.
To find out were SEGA\'s heart is you cant sit there and ask is it a matter of whether or not they are making games for other systems....you have to ask.....which system has sega given ITS TOP SELLING FRANCHISES TO? and who\'s that??? XBOX
crazy taxi was a HUGE Success....and who are they making the next installment for?? xbox
sega sports makes sega MORE many than ANY of its other francises.....and who is getting there UNDIVIDED support?? xbox
Jet Set radio was a huge success....and who has sega given the series too??? xbox
I could go on and on.....this is no secret dude...sega is making MORE titles on the xbox than ANY of the other two consoles PUT TOGETHER!! you can be in denial if you want....but its clear that sega\'s heart is with xbox....the EVEN spoke at MS KEy note at e3....nobody else\'s....but if they were behind sony so much....wouldnt they have spoke at sony\'s too???
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and the ps2 is not an automatic success either...they have 9 million sales of a total 100 million consumer market that is STILL growing.. BUt you think sony has already won??? give me a break.....they are far from it....
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Originally posted by Soul_Reaver
Last time I checked Vitial fighter was NOT a big seller!! In fact I know it was not. And Virtual fighter 4 may not be as well.And sonic is with nintendo for a very strategic reason....nintendo KNOWS how to juice the hell out of its character franchises....they have been using the same character since the FIRST nintendo.
crazy taxi was a HUGE Success....and who are they making the next installment for?? xbox
sega sports makes sega MORE many than ANY of its other francises.....and who is getting there UNDIVIDED support?? xbox
Jet Set radio was a huge success....and who has sega given the series too??? xbox
Okay, I\'ve heard it all. You actually want people to believe that Crazy Taxi is a bigger franchise then Virtua Fighter? Oh god...:laughing:
Virtua Fighter is the fighting game of choice by Japanese players and has quite a following in America, not to mention critics have always loved the series. But, yeah, I mean Crazy Taxi was what? 20 mintues of fun?
I\'ll give you Jet Set Radio is a good game, but it wasn\'t a huge success, sadly. It deserved to be, but wasn\'t. And even if it was, it wouldn\'t be near as big as Virtua Fighter 4, simply because that series has been around ALOT longer then Crazy Taxi or Virtua Fighter 4.
And while Panzer Dragoon is one of the most excellent franchises, beyond Sega hardcore fans, it isn\'t well known, due to the Saturn not being the greatest commercial success.
So why exactly do you come to a PS2 board to preach this Xbox propaganda? And at any rate, you come to a PS2 board where most of us are multi-console owners and plan on buyin\' an Xbox.
Doesn\'t make much sense.
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One, IM NOT HERE BY CHOICE!!! Bob wanted me here...and since we are such good friends...I came. what up bob:D...you like my entrance;)
two...Crazi taxi has already out sold ALL THE VIRTUAL FIGHTING SERIES....nuff said.
three...Jets set radio went platnium.....nuff said.
NOTICE I ONLY POST IN THE CONSOLE DEBATING section of you precious little forum.....It was part of my agreement with bob...
ANd lastly...Im not new to this...Ive been reading the post from here for a LONG time. Most know me from console dome....you lie when you say most here are multi-console supporters and will buy the xbox. THIS site is one of the most xbox bashing forums on the web.
( THE MAIN REASON I DID NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE HERE)!!! the only site worse than this site is IGn\'s forum. But hey...this is a ps2 fan site so....what was I supposed to expect right???
You\'ve bashed the xbox on several occcasions yourself dude, so dont give me this crap when you know the situation here. I expected this reaction ....Me and bob have already talked about it.....
This is console debating dude....My presence spices up things around here. You could be sitting here debating nothing cause you are all ps2 fans but now you got to REALLY debate...I you cant handle that....then dont debate at all.....hang out in the section where yall talk about how much you love this and that game.....cause you will not EVER FIND ME POSTING IN THERE CAUSE IM NOT A TROLL AND I RESPECT THIS FORUM FOR WHAT IT IS....A PS2 FAN SITE...
get off my back!!!
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Originally posted by Soul_Reaver
ANd lastly...Im not new to this...Ive been reading the post from here for a LONG time. Most know me from console dome....you lie when you say most here are multi-console supporters and will buy the xbox. THIS site is one of the most xbox bashing forums on the web.
( THE MAIN REASON I DID NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE HERE)!!! the only site worse than this site is IGn\'s forum. But hey...this is a ps2 fan site so....what was I supposed to expect right???
Aw, come on. What a load of BS. Many of us own multiple consoles and want to buy GC/Xbox etc. If you think otherwise you obviously haven\'t spent all that much time here as you think.
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two...Crazi taxi has already out sold ALL THE VIRTUAL FIGHTING SERIES....nuff said.
three...Jets set radio went platnium.....nuff said.
Not much I can say that L-I-C didn\'t already cover.
Jet Set didn\'t sell very well @ all. Maybe in your deluded mind, but not anywhere else. And VF is a huge success over in Japan, much more important than Crazy Taxi. nuff said.
- dm
- the trick is to keep breathing.
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. THIS site is one of the most xbox bashing forums on the web.
It was long ago, but now it\'s a different story. People here have lighten up to XBOX. Dude I remember long ago the xbox bashing that took place here, but hey don\'t forget this is a psx2 forum, then again you know that. Anyhow I knew back in the old days that XBOX just needed a little time to convince the others what it\'s capable of accomplishing.
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Originally posted by Soul_Reaver
You\'ve bashed the xbox on several occcasions yourself dude, so dont give me this crap when you know the situation here. I expected this reaction ....Me and bob have already talked about it.....
This is console debating dude....My presence spices up things around here. You could be sitting here debating nothing cause you are all ps2 fans but now you got to REALLY debate...I you cant handle that....then dont debate at all.....hang out in the section where yall talk about how much you love this and that game.....cause you will not EVER FIND ME POSTING IN THERE CAUSE IM NOT A TROLL AND I RESPECT THIS FORUM FOR WHAT IT IS....A PS2 FAN SITE...
get off my back!!!
:rolleyes:
Yeah, man I\'ve trashed the Xbox so hardcore. That is why I\'ve always said I\'d buy one and have taken up for MS when people around here was trashing them. Give me a break. It was not until after E3 that I said, I wouldn\'t get one at launch. If you had been reading these posts for so long, you would know that. I\'ve always said I\'d buy one, and infact, when the PS2 was released I made a thread on the board about lame launch titles, so please, don\'t sit there and try to preach that everyone here hates the Xbox, because it simply is not true.
You\'re welcome to debate, but please get your facts straight before you go accusing people of bashing a system.
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Im all about debating....but that has not happened since i got here and that NOT my fault!
have I named ANYONE??? No. DID I say everyone? NO ...stop putting crap in my mouth.
Is it not true that they exist here??? yes its true they do exist here. Dont be tring to get all patriotic and defend this forum. Yes you have every right to do so....but my sole purpose here is not to bash this forum....Im putting everything up front.
again....lay off me... Im debating dude!! and me and you have been debating against each other well. Have i call you anything??? No. Ive answered you and everyones else\'s reply\'s with COUNTER replies.
YOU STARTED THIS CRAP....in stead of debating me you said:
So why exactly do you come to a PS2 board to preach this Xbox propaganda? And at any rate, you come to a PS2 board where most of us are multi-console owners and plan on buyin\' an Xbox.
Doesn\'t make much sense.
like im condemed from talking about xbox at this site??? you started this buddy. Dont try to put it on me. I will defend my self.
What was the issue??? the issue was where sega\'s heart was at: I think i proved my case petty well....cause you could only name TWO franchises that the the other systems have....and I named a SEVERAL key titles franchise\'s that are coming to the xbox.
and how many sales do you think a game needs to have before its called a success??? Jet Grind radio has DEFINATELY went GOLD (thats 500,000) copies...and that is info from a little while back. I suspect its at 1 million now since the price cut. And you dont think thats a successful title??? Id hate to work for you...cause last time I checked going gold was a GOOD thing....nothing dissapointing about it.
It can officially be called a hit. Sure, its not the nine million FF sales. But its a hit non the less. I BET its went platnium since then dude.....but thats disappointing right?