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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 04, 2001, 08:12:16 AM
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All we wanna the 50/60 HZ option in the europe games, so we have to sign the petition of the famous site http://www.petitiononline.com/ps2pal60/
You can also send an email to Liz_Ashford@scee.net
Among all us we can reach our objetive. Help us please!!!
The petition:
To: Sony
This is a petition for a subject that will surely strike a chord with any PAL console system user out there. For years now, we PAL users have been made to put up with shoddy conversions of games: games that run slower than their NTSC counterparts. For those that don\'t know, NTSC games (mainly US and Japanese ones) run at "60hz" while PAL games run at "50hz". Without going into too much technical detail, when many games are released onto PAL systems, we end up with shoddy games that are sometimes a shadow of their former selves. That\'s not to mention the fact that they also have big black borders at the top and bottom of the screen most of the time; this means that many games looked severely squashed (Gran Turismo UK version for the Playstation 1 being a good example).
So, what can be done about this? Well, Sega definitely seem to have the right idea and since the launch of its Dreamcast console, they have asked developers to include a 60hz option in their PAL games. By doing this, gamers can CHOOSE whether to use either 50hz or 60hz. This is necessary as some TV\'s aren\'t compatible with 60hz modes (all modern TV\'s are though), but anybody with a decent TV set that does support it can play the games the way they are meant to be. I have a lot of respect for Sega for doing this as it is the first time anybody has bothered to help us PAL users out!
Unfortunately it seems as if not everybody has the same idea. I just recently purchased a PAL Playstation 2 and I am very disappointed that none of the UK games I tried had this option. Although I am no technical wizard, I would imagine that the PS2 is capable of running in a PAL 60hz mode, so why won\'t you ask developers to include it??? Personally, I can see no good reason why not...
So, that is basically what this petition is for; to ask YOU to ask all PS2 developers to include a 60hz option in their games. Now, I am sure that there are a lot of people out there (including myself) that are disgusted with the shoddy conversions that we recently got of Tekken Tag and many others. We would really like to get something done about it, so that we no longer have to go out and buy imported machines/games, just to play them properly!
Thanks for reading. I trust that you will take our opinions into consideration.
Stuart Reynolds
"Kazuya_UK"
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
Go now to http://www.petitiononline.com/ps2pal60/ and help all europe gamers!! Please...
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Signed the petition. I hope something is done. A fair few signatures there.
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Thanks a lot RichGUK. I hope a lot of members of this forum (European ones or not) sign the petition!!
Come on friends!
If you wanna help us more, please, copy the url and send messages by ICQ and forward to your full list!!!
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I signed. Right now, my name (Michael from germany: 60Hz is a must (for online games)) isn\'t on the list but I don\'t know why.
edit: now I\'m on the list. I didn\'t approve it at the first time....stupid mistake :)
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I signed ! ;) ...I\'m Fabrizio....2703 :D
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I signed it :)
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I have put quill to paper...
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Its got my autograph, there are nearly 3000 now
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I\'ve signed it!!
Although both of my Televisions don\'t support 60hz, and if i put it in that mode it goes black and white could someone tell me some affordable televisions that support this mode...
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2792 is my number folks. I\'ll spread the word asap :D
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Heck yeah I signed it. It\'s not fair what you Europeans have to put up with.
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I signed, even though I live in the US.
Hope it all works out. :)
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signed. its over 3000 by a few hundred now :D
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I also signed! Sony should handle the 60hz-option like SEGA did with Dreamcast-games. :bounce:
P.S.
Let\'s hope that the webmaster of the site won\'t forget to send the result to Sony! :p
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I posted this address at a New Zealand PS2 site.
I hope it\'s been posted at others:D
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Aaah, it\'s nice to see our US friends also signing the petition, even though they do not have to worry over this gaming nightmare.
This is most welcome...
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i signed, #2879
the only pal game i\'ve seen so far with this option is ready to rumble 2, hope to see it in alot more games.
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THANK YOU A LOT friends!!!!!!! Thanx for help us in this petition...
All you are true friends.
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2926 Signatures Total
Thanks to me :D
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Originally posted by Adan
THANK YOU A LOT friends!!!!!!! Thanx for help us in this petition...
All you are true friends.
Hey, I think it\'s a must for real gamers to sign such petitions, although my TV doesn\'t support 60Hz :(
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I signed the petition, even though I don\'t know if the solution this person proposes is the best solution to your problems.
It sounds like most games originally designed for the Japan/US NTSC market are simply modified so that the clockspeed is reduced from 60hz to 50hz before being sold in the PAL market. This obviously slows down everything that happens in the game. You want them to give you a switch to allow you to run it in the original 60hz clockspeed, which will only be of use to people in Europe who have televisions that support 60hz video input.
Wouldn\'t it be better if the developers modified their software so that the game continued to run at 60hz and generated 60 fields of screen data per second, but then add a routine at the end which just throws away 10 intermittant fields per second before they are sent to the television? I wonder if this would produce an unattractive stuttering effect in the video. This solution would of course be more challenging for the programmers than simply changing the clockspeed would, but it would also allow people with PAL-only televisions to play the game at full speed.
Ah well, all current television standards are basically crap, so maybe we\'ll just have to wait for universal high definition progressive standards to take hold worldwide.
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I posted this over at the TekkenZaibatsu forums. Hopefully this will help out a lot.