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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Mattc007 on July 12, 2001, 07:29:08 PM
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At a site a few others and I manage, we are holding a console debate, cleverly titled "The Great Console Debate of \'01\'". We have two other major forums participating, representing the Nintendo & Microsoft camps. We would like to invite Psx2Central.com\'s forums to participate in this friendly competition, which takes place over one week (July 28 - Aug 3).
The debate will feature three teams of three members, coming from each of the three site\'s forum members. You won\'t only be representing your console of choice, but also your forum and it\'s respect.
What I need are your three most PlayStation2-knowledged & eloquent-writing members to join the Sony team. Although these three members will be the only ones allowed to post in the debate, everyone is encouraged to participate and help their forum\'s reps win the debate.
How about it guys? Would you like to take part in this bragging-rights event? I will post a link to a forum later (to avoid spamming).
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Wow, this is very surprising!
I dunno who to pick, but I think one mod should go, preferably ddaryl.
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Yeah, I think ddaryl should definatly go.
Thats if he wants too. We might not even enter.
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I say definately ddaryl, SonyFan, and Living-In-Clip
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L-I-C and ddaryl sound good to me. Ryu too.
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Ddaryll, L-I-C, and Ryu.
Defiantly Ryu.
They will feel bent over a table after RYU gets through with them.
What are the other two forums, may I ask?
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My vote goes for ddaryl, Ryu, and Ogodlything. :) j/k. Maybe Chrono if he\'s around.
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We\'ll have the smartest debatees (is that a word? ;) )
The xbox guys will be like "OH MAN 1000-bit built in razor sharp suspension modem with PS2 PORTS!!! Xbox Roxxorz and will be the link from earth into infinity!!"
Xbox fanboys, their mouths are as big as their console.
I agree, we should have this line up
Ddaryl
enemytooth
Ryu
(i don\'t even know these people :laughing: )
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Thanks guys - I\'d love to do it.
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I was gonna say Ryu too. I don\'t know why I didn\'t.
Anyone of those 4 would be perfect because they know the PS2 inside and out and the now all the other consoles so they could pose the best argument.
BTW, I have a feeling that the debate is going to result in a flame war and a lot of people calling each other fanboys.
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Thanks for the replies guys -- here\'s a bit more info for you:
Your team will be going against N-Sider/PlanetGamecube and the recently merged MSXbox/Teamxbox.
Follow this link to our debate announcement forum and feel free to submit questions, ideas, or just rant about how much better your board is than the others :) . Don\'t forget to sign up under the SONY TEAM thread!
http://www.purevideogames.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=20 (http://www.purevideogames.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=20)
Thanks!!
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Hello boys and girls.
I am the one of the other Managers of this debate.
I just wanted to inform you of the " Teams".
Representing GC is N-Sider and X-Box is undesided but we are hoping for MSXbox
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Hmm...
Ryu, L-i-C and perhaps CXI :)
Dont know..
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Definatly L-I-C, not sure who to pick for the other two places.
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Well, no offence anyone, but my three would be:
Ddaryl - the king of ps2-knowledge, and the man with most posts
L-I-C - all-around wise and thoughtful - his replies are straight to the point and his wit is sharp as a sword.
Ryu - now he writes such in-detail posts holding so many truths that dealing with him will leave anyone bashed to the floor...
The three knights of psx2central! Strenght and honour!
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I signed up.
;)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I signed up.
;)
Yes Daniel-son...er...sorry. You\'re gonna be awesome, man...;) I have an amazing amount of knowledge about the PS2, but not about hte other systems, which makes me weak in some areas. ddaryl and...well...Ryu seem like a good candidates too. Glad you signed up. Wipe the floor with \'em.
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Everyone can help out your team, only three of you can post. For instance, N-Sider.com is creating a special private forum on their site to discuss issues and deliver facts for their reps to use. They\'re getting unbelievably serious about this (they think MSXbox will steal their arguments).
This may be featured on a prominent site *cough*IGN*cough* through some connections we have, but it is still cloudy if it will come through.
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We all know what the systems will be bashed for:
PS2: jaggies, HDD
XBOX: PC, fake photos
NGC: kiddy games, inferior hardware.
And I think most of the bashing will go to the PS2, but L-I-C and ddaryl always make those people shut up. :)
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I almost forgot.. the debate website has opened --
http://debate.purevideogames.com/ (http://debate.purevideogames.com/).
If one of the mods or site staff would get me a 88x31 button advertising PSX2Central for that site, I would much appreciate it. Thanks!
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Originally posted by Mattc007
Everyone can help out your team, only three of you can post. For instance, N-Sider.com is creating a special private forum on their site to discuss issues and deliver facts for their reps to use. They\'re getting unbelievably serious about this (they think MSXbox will steal their arguments).
This may be featured on a prominent site *cough*IGN*cough* through some connections we have, but it is still cloudy if it will come through.
yes!!!! ok, once the gt3 info has calmed down, we should switch the forum name and only let in the experienced members!
like the old members, and above, so they can help out with the arguements...
god, im soo exited.... time to show them their place.....
count me in to help you guys out as much as i can,
go living in clip!
i hope ryu shows his face, so he will get the info.
i also thing that we will need someone back here on the forums to supply living and ddayrl a lot of technical stuff about the consoles....... i know there is someone...
GO PSX2CENTRAL!!!!
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come on guys, what do you think? we need to help our guys out!
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I\'ll check it out... but in the end, it\'s all about the games and anyone who doesn\'t agree with that is a fanboy.
(I signed up as Rock Howard in case anyone was wondering where I was.)
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Well I appreciate the vote of confidence but I have to admit I\'m very tired of debating.
In fact its burning me out, and sometime even effects my everyday life.
There is just a whirlwind of negativity between game fans and most of us just get sucked into this whirlwind and find ourselved feeding off the negativity.
I only respond to people who put down the PS2 for the most rediculous reasons. My theory is if you don\'t like something shut the **** up and keep it to yourself.
How many times do you see me jumping into debate topics about Nintendo or XBox saying something negative. I pretty much don\'t, mainly cause I honestly don\'t feel its my right to tell anyone why they should like anything. Unlike alot fo people out there. On top of this I don\'t want anyone to stop liking what they like, I just don\'t want to hear the reasons why they think I shouldn\'t like what I do like
but on that note I don\'t feel that people who hate should honestly believe they have some right to free speech and spew there this sucks hate for other systems on forums.
Unfortunately there are enough of these types of people that cross boards and stir up this negativity whirlwind which then has a domino effect on almost all of us. ALot of us try to ignore and resist but if your like me you feed off the vibes you surround yourself with.
I\'ve noticed this with myself and my last 2 years on interent forums. Negativity breeds negativity and feeds more negativity until we are all awashed in some sort of evil that just will not come off with an ordinary bar of soap.
So basically what I\'m saying, this great deabte will turn out to be this sucks and you suck and your an idiot cause you don\'t see it my way blah blah blah. I really like to avoid these type of confrontations,
As most of you know ever since they made me a mod my main goal was to make this pretty much a PS2 only forum with some exceptions, and although the forum as slowed down some, its one of the most peaceful forums around. SOme people may not like it this way, but to those people I say.... "Join a different forum cause this one is unique"
I will say one more thing if I don\'t get gold on B-8 Beginners Liscense in GT3 very soon I\'m going to run down my street with a chainsaw and take out anyone who gets in my way.
Peace
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So basically what I\'m saying, this great deabte will turn out to be this sucks and you suck and your an idiot cause you don\'t see it my way blah blah blah.
It will not -- any flaming, any child-like arguements will result in an immediate disqualification. We don\'t want an IGN Forum-style brawl going out at PVG. And it isn\'t a negative bout too.. we have a few suprises.
Ddaryl, I\'ll understand if you don\'t want to debate. That\'s cool. But don\'t do so because you sign it off as some fanboy-based "you suck"-athon. We\'ll make sure it will never be that way.
Thanks.
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you know he\'s right it\'s impossible to get those people to be sensible unless they have some mature people (maybe the mods have SOME sense)
.... I still think enemytooth should be in the team.. He\'s so wise! :D
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This will be cool. I just signed up... :D
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ddaryl, have you\'ve ever been to N-Sider or PlanetGameCube? The people there are surpringly intelligent. They definitely won\'t insult anyone else in the manner you speak of, they\'re better than that. MSXbox on the other hand...
Anyways, I think I\'ll sign up....UNDER TEAM MICROSOFT! Woo hoo! Xbox rulez! GayStation 2 and LunchCube drulz!!!!
I gotta represent my bevolved Xbox. Ryu, Sonyfan, LIC, you *****es are going down! Feel the overwhelming power of the magnificant Xbox! You will all except the fact that my intellect makes you all look like monkeys and when we debate I\'ll have you all bowing down before me.
BRING IT ON!!!!
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I gotta represent my bevolved Xbox. Ryu, Sonyfan, LIC, you *****es are going down! Feel the overwhelming power of the magnificant Xbox! You will all except the fact that my intellect makes you all look like monkeys and when we debate I\'ll have you all bowing down before me.
Except? Don\'t you mean Accept? Heh, some intellect.
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Originally posted by Ryu
Except? Don\'t you mean Accept? Heh, some intellect.
Ya well....That grammatical mistake was the last one I\'ll ever make!I\'ll see you on the battlefield, junior. You and your Sony fanboy friends will be begging for mercy after I\'m finished with you. Bwahahaha! Feel the wrath of the almighty Xbox!!!
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Originally posted by Jumpman
ddaryl, have you\'ve ever been to N-Sider or PlanetGameCube? The people there are surpringly intelligent. They definitely won\'t insult anyone else in the manner you speak of, they\'re better than that. MSXbox on the other hand...
Anyways, I think I\'ll sign up....UNDER TEAM MICROSOFT! Woo hoo! Xbox rulez! GayStation 2 and LunchCube drulz!!!!
I gotta represent my bevolved Xbox. Ryu, Sonyfan, LIC, you *****es are going down! Feel the overwhelming power of the magnificant Xbox! You will all except the fact that my intellect makes you all look like monkeys and when we debate I\'ll have you all bowing down before me.
BRING IT ON!!!!
This would be the EXACT reason that Ddaryl doesn\'t want to participate, Jumpman.
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ok, i signed up, my name is ..Q.. so post in the sony forum, a bit, and we can get a little psx2cetral group together there!.
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I signed up, under the name Vivi of course. :)
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This would be the EXACT reason that Ddaryl doesn\'t want to participate, Jumpman.
Damn right. Thank you Aaron.
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Friendly competition my left nut
This debate hasn\'t even started and Jumphomo is already arguing.
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This was completely unneccesary, I apologize for posting it.
EDIT BY Jumpman: Yes but Rob\'s post was completely neccasary. :rolleyes:
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:laughing: hahahahahahaha
no offense man but that was priceless
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Jumpman you have ZERO credibility when you turn around and say stuff like that. If you are going to edit your posts back I\'ll just delete them from now on. How\'s that sound?
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Now why on earth would you edit my last post when I was explaining myself perfectly? Did you not want to let the people see that I wasn\'t being serious or what?
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i would glady go, BUT im too busy playing games while the "other" guys are still waiting over 3 months to play thiers
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i\'m too busy playing GT3,
and like ddaryl, am sick of debating.
Why should I worry?
I have no fear of the outcome of the future, I am inteligent enough to know whats going to happen in the future.
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Originally posted by mm
i would glady go, BUT im too busy playing games while the "other" guys are still waiting over 3 months to play thiers
Absolutely true. :laughing:
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I know ddarly already declined but I just want to say that ddarly, Living-In-Clip, and Ryu would be the best choices and would steamroll over all the other groups when it comes time to debate.
Hell Yes
GO PSX2 Central!
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Can the Donkey Rapers participate in said debate?
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geh...i signed up...i kinda wanted to do some debating, i find console debating rather fun...but...no one seems to have nominated me...ahh well, too bad i guess
but Chrono is definately my all time fav. debater...pity he doesnt like to anymore
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Oh I\'m nominate you Bobby, but your just too damn stupid to be representing our forum.
I think Living-In-Clip, SonyFan, and Ryu would represent us the best. :) They should go.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Oh I\'m nominate you Bobby, but your just too damn stupid to be representing our forum.
I think Living-In-Clip, SonyFan, and Ryu would represent us the best. :) They should go.
gehhh...you little whipper snapper...i wouldnt mind getting into a full on debate with you again...its been a while since i smoked you :) and apparently youve improved :)
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A while? Try a month or 2 before consoledomes closed down atleast. :)
And do you know what\'s funny? In ConsoleDebating, Soul Reaver has been smoking you, and then all of a sudden, I obliterated him. :laughing: Ok so it\'s not that funny but I find it kind of ironic.
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Soul Reaver hasnt been smoking ****, we have been debating well...i dont recall you beating him at PSX2Central or at ConsoleDome...please give me the link to what you are referring to
my fav. Nintendo debaters= Jumpman, Eik, and Beattie (from ConsoleDome)
fav. Sony debater = Chrono
fav. XBox debater = SoulReaver (not the old soul reaver)
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Originally posted by Jumpman
What do you mean? So the Soul Reaver with the pic here isn\'t the same one from consoledomes?
Yes, that\'s where I made a mistake as well. It\'s not the same guy.
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I am the king of all spammers, but I should stop before it gets me in trouble :(
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Jimmy cracked corn and I don\'t care.
This post brought to you by the fine people at Spam Industries.
Spam, so good, its gone!
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I could seriously debate for any of the consoles. I\'m just that damn good.
BTW, I\'m serious. I challenge anyone to challenge me to a challenge of challenging debate on anything. Thats what I love about debate. If you are good you can argue anything; but its not the same through text. :(
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I\'ve added the rules of the debate in the Open House forum.
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When does this all begin? The actual back and forth debating? Personally, I can\'t wait. I\'m always in the CONSOLE DEBATING section on PS2Central, so it will be a welcome change to see some new faces and perspectives.
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Since Ddaryl has declined my next choice would be either cypress(bobs_software) or Bobs_hardware.
And if ryu doesnt go, then Both bobs can go.
Well have twin turbo bobs of destruction.
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The real smartest ones are the ones who wouldn\'t want to go because it would just be stupid and pointless. And then we genius ones will be revealed.
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I have no intrest in arguing, however I posses excellent overall knowledge on all systems, and am a wonderful writer. However, it is to my disadvantage that I am an open minded person and believe no console can be debated based on hardware because that is about 10% of what makes a system great.
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I\'d say roughly 10 - 20% of the judgement of the debate will be based on hardware information, as presented by the debaters. In other words, you\'ll try to argue the superior system overall. And most of the grading will be based on sucessful arguments, not just saying System X has a higher number of ABC than System Z. In fact, one of our judges (Korval from PCG & MSXBox) is a programmer who posesses the most knowledge of the hardware of these systems than anyone I\'ve ever known of.
And I agree. Hardware only plays a small part in determining the superior system. And it will in this debate.
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Hey Matt, Is it possible for someone from PSX2Central to debate for the GCN or Xbox?
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Originally posted by Gohan
Hey Matt, Is it possible for someone from PSX2Central to debate for the GCN or Xbox?
i doubt it, they have enough people there to debate already and from what i heard, the nintendo people are quite wise....(from what i hear.)
anyways, i would tend to think that bob\'s hardware would be a good debater for us. (although there are many debaters here that are good)
we will need some good choices. because bothe nintendo and microsoft have 2 forums to choose from.
but i say we have a good chance:D
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
When does this all begin? The actual back and forth debating? Personally, I can\'t wait. I\'m always in the CONSOLE DEBATING section on PS2Central, so it will be a welcome change to see some new faces and perspectives.
I need the teams to register by July 23.
The debate begins July 28 and lasts until August 2.
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Originally posted by Mattc007
I need the teams to register by July 23.
The debate begins July 28 and lasts until August 2.
date just keeps on being pushed back huh? and what r the topics that will be debated?
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Yeah.. I noticed that it\'s pretty dead over there too.. Maybe I should once again grace them with my presence? hmmmm. :D
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Originally posted by Falcon4
date just keeps on being pushed back huh? and what r the topics that will be debated?
No, that\'s been the original date since we announced the debate.
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Actually, you\'re right, it\'s supposed to start July 27. For more info:
http://www.purevideogames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=241 (http://www.purevideogames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=241)
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I recommend Bobby. And it\'s not because he asked me to recommend him, although he did, that\'s not the point :D
I DO think he\'s got what it takes to take on the best of them, he\'s definitely grown as a debator in the last few months. He always had the skillz, but in the days of consoledome never really took anyone on that hard. But lately he\'s been stirring it up and not backing down.
I definnitely recomend Ryu, Sonyfan, Bobbyhardware, and LIC
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Originally posted by Jumpman
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thank you to whoever deleted that message, as it would havebeen flamed by alot of people.
watch what you say jumpman.
and it sucks that ryu dosent want to debate. man, we are goning to have no one that is good!....
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Hehe...I know that was you Aaron!!! Bad boy! Ryu wouldn\'t of taken that seriously anyway. Besides, you didn\'t have to take out all of it.
I said Ryu is going and Bobs_Hardware should be the one to replace him.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Hehe...I know that was you Aaron!!! Bad boy! Ryu wouldn\'t of taken that seriously anyway. Besides, you didn\'t have to take out all of it.
I said Ryu is going and Bobs_Hardware should be the one to replace him.
oh yeah i know, i read it before it was deleted.... you gave a little more indepth descrition of what you said, while putting down the forum and bob\'s hardware.
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Hehe...I know that was you Aaron!!! Bad boy! Ryu wouldn\'t of taken that seriously anyway. Besides, you didn\'t have to take out all of it.
Now I\'m curious as to what it is that you said. I probably would have just laughed, made a reply that was rhetorical nonsense then moved right on back into my little cave of a dwelling. Life is good.
and it sucks that ryu dosent want to debate. man, we are goning to have no one that is good!....
When you love games in general, it\'s so tough to debate in favor of one console unless it is being seriously misjudged by some screwball n00bie walking along as if accurate information was the last thing on Earth he chose to listen to. I prefer to hit those people with the brick of knowledge and it usually hurts, which is why I love throwing it. In any case, six months ago before the GCN was actually revealed and the X-Box was still in its wee wee fake screenshot days, I might have debated for Sony. Now however, what\'s the point? I really want to see Munch and Rogue Leader 2 has me salivating to no end. I\'m a gamer, not a fighter. :)
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Originally posted by Falcon4
oh yeah i know, i read it before it was deleted.... you gave a little more indepth descrition of what you said, while putting down the forum and bob\'s hardware.
Bob would of known I was joking. Give him some credit. He\'s not that dumb.
And most of the forum would of known I was joking when I call them all SHEEPLE!. You know, Ethugg was calling everyone sheeple and I thought I\'d do it for fun, but I guess I have to be more direct next time.
Now I\'m curious as to what it is that you said. I probably would have just laughed, made a reply that was rhetorical nonsense then moved right on back into my little cave of a dwelling. Life is good.
I call you a pussay in brackets for not debating.
Like this.
"Since Ryu is not debating(pussay), I elect Bobs_Hardware to go."
Now I know your not going to debate because you scared. Your not going to debate because you feel it\'s unessaccary to debate against the consoles which you\'ll eventually buy and have nothing against, because your a gamer. Something like that. But I respect that decision.
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Your not going to debate because you feel it\'s unessaccary to debate against the consoles which you\'ll eventually buy and have nothing against, because your a gamer. Something like that. But I respect that decision.
Thank you. As for you calling me a pussay, hey, I am what a I eat I guess. :D
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Originally posted by Ryu
Thank you. As for you calling me a pussay, hey, I am what a I eat I guess. :D
:laughing:
LOL, funny stuff man!
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Mmm\'kay. I\'m goin\' to go I guess, so who else is (Damn you Ryu!)?
Where\'s Nathan now\'a\'days? Someone drag Nathan into this mess.
;)
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i think bob should go, and yes jumpman, i knew you were joking, dont worry, ;)
bob is a good debater, and he has lots of sources, which would be of help because you have to back everything up with a source......
(thatll be hard for the x box people...)
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Who is going to be the Judge of this Debate or should I say Judges?
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Holy **** already I can tell this is gonna be crazy... People already started arguing and we\'re in the smae forum! Cmon people dont argue with each other now...
I think Gohon should represent us if Ryu and Ddaryl both arent going. Or maybe Unknown.. he mitre be good... sucks that ddaryl and Ryu arent goin.. we would have a much better cahnce at debated better.... i guess thats how i can put it...
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You can quit your arguing, the debate has been cancelled.
Sorry, but there wasn\'t enough interest in it. Oh well, it\'s probably for the best.
I\'d still like to thank you guys for your interest. It isn\'t the PSX2Central.com\'s fault.
Peace guys.
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Originally posted by Mattc007
You can quit your arguing, the debate has been cancelled.
Sorry, but there wasn\'t enough interest in it. Oh well, it\'s probably for the best.
I\'d still like to thank you guys for your interest. It isn\'t the PSX2Central.com\'s fault.
Peace guys.
"Well I never saw that coming!"
Author\'s note: it\'s sarcasm!
A pity though, oh well. If only in yesteryear.
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Bummer. There was potenial. If we had more active posters,instead of the same old "crew" we could arrange something. Maybe a great "debate" where there was a Team A and a Team B, each with three people on it. They would then have a certain amount of days to debate any subject rangin\' from games to everyday moral issues. Then those who didn\'t debate, could vote to see who won the debate.
We really need to come up with something and bring some spice to the forum.
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Jumpman...insulting me? never! :)
bahhh, what a bummer, i love a good debate
what do you mean nt enough interest, it shouldnt be too hard to find 3 people for each team
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Jumpman...insulting me? never! :)
bahhh, what a bummer, i love a good debate
what do you mean nt enough interest, it shouldnt be too hard to find 3 people for each team
If we did it, we would need to make it so the three people change with each debate, that way everyone who wants to gets a chance.
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They were just doing it for hits... and hopefully advertisment for their site.. lol... :eek: Oh well... Good idea gone bad.
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Originally posted by Ryu
Thank you. As for you calling me a pussay, hey, I am what a I eat I guess. :D
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: Well I don\'t eat off the plate:thepimp:
But back to topic I think jumpman should go even if he looses he could piss off all the other debaters;) I vote for BOB
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Bob should go..
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Umm while are you guys still nominating people? The debate isn\'t happening, scroll up a bit and you\'d see that. Oh well, it was a good idea, maybe someone else can start one up.
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Originally posted by Aaron
Umm while are you guys still nominating people? The debate isn\'t happening, scroll up a bit and you\'d see that. Oh well, it was a good idea, maybe someone else can start one up.
Just curious, do you think we have enough members to do the debate game / idea I suggested? Or if it would go over? I\'d start a thread about it, but not sure how the mods would feel about a \'game\' based on debating.
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I\'d support the idea. :)
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This is great stuff !!! If only my english was little better and my brain a bit larger I´d liked to join !!! :D
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ok well. it wouldnt have turned out well because we didnt have any debaters that wanted to go. and you would have had to give a full backup of what you say, so the x box people would have trouble.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
If we did it, we would need to make it so the three people change with each debate, that way everyone who wants to gets a chance.
Why don\'t we have small teams of three that are always together and we compete to find out who is the best team. We could also do an individual debate to find out who the best debator is. That would make things interesting around here until Spaceworld and the flood of Nintendo fanboys pour in.
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Originally posted by Gohan
Why don\'t we have small teams of three that are always together and we compete to find out who is the best team. We could also do an individual debate to find out who the best debator is. That would make things interesting around here until Spaceworld and the flood of Nintendo fanboys pour in.
That is also a good idea. We should start a thread on this and see what everyone thinks. Get the idea set and then do it. Would be fun and different.
I\'ll do it when I get back tonight, unless you want to or someone else (start the thread with ideas,etc - that is).