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Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: fastson on July 16, 2001, 05:21:57 AM
Remember the flying thing at the end of MGS2 demo??
Snake said.

"CYPHER!?!"

Remeber???

Well here\'s the real thing :)

http://www.athensnewspapers.com/1997/103197/1031.a2flyingsaucer.html

Kinda cool!

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.athensnewspapers.com%2F1997%2F103197%2F1031.lg.cypher.jpg&hash=a3f872b191241ac11192fecc2f633c38a3754956)
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: Samwise on July 16, 2001, 05:27:01 AM
Haha, cool!
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: Black Samurai on July 16, 2001, 05:46:35 AM
This is like 10-15 year old technology. I remember seeing this on TV when I was in Elementary school. The US govt now has spy devices the size of house flies that can fly in undetected and transmit video and voice.

BTW, This is only the stuff we KNOW about. Imagine what they have classified!!!
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 16, 2001, 07:15:56 AM
That´s a ovni :D :D

At the moment is it used by the government?
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: Psycomantis101 on July 16, 2001, 08:47:05 AM
That is pretty cool but where and why did u  look for it.
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: on July 16, 2001, 08:51:34 AM
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Originally posted by Gohan
This is like 10-15 year old technology. I remember seeing this on TV when I was in Elementary school. The US govt now has spy devices the size of house flies that can fly in undetected and transmit video and voice.

BTW, This is only the stuff we KNOW about. Imagine what they have classified!!!


I remember it about 10 years ago too.  It didn\'t work so great, so not much media was put on it.  Just the 6 o\'clock news! ;)
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: fastson on July 16, 2001, 10:02:15 AM
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Originally posted by Psycomantis101
That is pretty cool but where and why did u  look for it.


I found it on IGN Boards :)
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Post by: Black Samurai on July 16, 2001, 10:14:29 AM
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Originally posted by Troglodyte
I remember it about 10 years ago too.  It didn\'t work so great, so not much media was put on it.  Just the 6 o\'clock news! ;)

:laughing: Thats where I remember seeing it at too.
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Post by: Halberto on July 16, 2001, 10:49:37 AM
My grandpa was an engineer for the air force a few years back. He told me that the things in Star Trek that dissolves you and puts you back thing had been around since the 80\'s. I didn\'t believe him till my mom said he was telling the truth. wierd eh?
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Post by: Aaron on July 16, 2001, 11:32:58 AM
It doesn\'t exist (The Star Trek transporter) they have successfully transported a particle of light or something usuing a similar method. There was an article I read about it a few years back. I think ol Grandpa was pulling your leg. If the three of you knew about it that means tons of people would know and of course, they don\'t. Something like that would change the world in an instant. No offense or anything, just think he was being a grandpa :)
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Post by: on July 16, 2001, 11:43:56 AM
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Originally posted by Aaron
It doesn\'t exist (The Star Trek transporter) they have successfully transported a particle of light or something usuing a similar method. There was an article I read about it a few years back. I think ol Grandpa was pulling your leg. If the three of you knew about it that means tons of people would know and of course, they don\'t. Something like that would change the world in an instant. No offense or anything, just think he was being a grandpa :)


Well, the "hover craft" has been out for a long time, just can\'t carry a vary heavy load.  I had a friend that made a hover board like on Back to the Future.  But it would only work going downhill and the battery ran out after 5 minutes!

I saw a special on the teleportation of a particle of light.  The machine is gigantic!  And all it does is shine a lazer pointer into a section of it and the light comes out in a place at the other end of the room!  It\'s neat, but they are a couple dozen years away from transporting more complex matter.
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: Black Samurai on July 16, 2001, 01:43:22 PM
The US govt. was actually experimenting with teleportation and time travel back in the 50s and 60s. They got a whole destroyer class ship to disappear but when it came back it was all phucked up. Some of the crew didn\'t come back and others were actually fused with the ship itself.

BTW, No matter how outlandish it may sound this is a true story.
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Post by: Aaron on July 16, 2001, 01:59:34 PM
Yeah I\'ve heard that story, it\'s a creepy one. It\'s obviously not true, but a good story. File it in with the other Gov. conspiracy stories. I wish I had remembered where I read that story, there ended up being some truth to people being sick with a mysterious illness or something, but no ship vanished into another time or dimension. You guys are wacky. :)
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Post by: Black Samurai on July 16, 2001, 02:03:51 PM
I read it in a book by a guy in the military at the time and they did a story about it on the History Channel. I would think that if it was attributed to an illness that the History channel would have added that part in.

BTW, I think the real conspiracy is that people believe it was just a sickness.
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Post by: Toxical on July 16, 2001, 02:49:48 PM
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Originally posted by ViVi
My grandpa was an engineer for the air force a few years back. He told me that the things in Star Trek that dissolves you and puts you back thing had been around since the 80\'s. I didn\'t believe him till my mom said he was telling the truth. wierd eh?


To store your entire genetic structure, meaning who you are, down to the scar on your arm, would require a massive amount of storage space, even if they could blast you to atoms, and then make you appear 2000 miles away, it is not possible at the moment because of storage :D
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Post by: Aaron on July 16, 2001, 03:42:17 PM
Good discussion, but I think we\'ve gotten Off-Topic, so let\'s continue it over there.
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: SER on July 16, 2001, 05:01:36 PM
I want one of those fly devices. :D

Imagine what I could do with that.... Oh yeah! :evil:
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: Black Samurai on July 17, 2001, 02:17:54 AM
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Originally posted by Toxical
To store your entire genetic structure, meaning who you are, down to the scar on your arm, would require a massive amount of storage space, even if they could blast you to atoms, and then make you appear 2000 miles away, it is not possible at the moment because of storage :D


Why would it not be possible because of storage? I think it would take a few hundred Petrabytes if they wanted to store all of that data but if they are just transmiting it why would they need to store it?
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Post by: SonyFan on July 17, 2001, 03:40:39 AM
"The US govt. was actually experimenting with teleportation and time travel back in the 50s and 60s. They got a whole destroyer class ship to disappear but when it came back it was all phucked up. Some of the crew didn\'t come back and others were actually fused with the ship itself." - Gohan

Actually, they weren\'t experimenting with Teleportation at all, but rather stealth technology. After the advent of Radar durring WWII, America knew that they had to find something to cloak their planes and battleships from enemy detetion. The story goes, that American and immigrant German scientists created a device that could bend light and sound around the "cloaked" object rendering it invisible to both the eye and to Radar. However this theory, in practice, had wildly unpredictable results... as Gohan already pointed out. It was called the Philidelphia Experiment and it\'s a technomyth.

Technomyths are the modern day equivilent to Hercules, Dragons, and Leprichauns. The reasoning goes, since we\'ve lost all the old myths to scienence.. we use science to create new myths. Aliens in Area 51, BigFoot, Philidelphia Experiment, a carberator that can get 100 miles to the gallon.. they all fall under the real of Technomyths.

Also, Vivi.. like Aaron and everyone else said.. "StarTrek" teleportation is a long ways off. The computers of the 80\'s were so slow and underpowered, that there\'s no way even the supercomputers of the day could manage to even scratch the surface of the power needed to manage teleportation. However, Tricorders ARE a reality. I saw them on the Discovery channel. They\'re very primitive right now, and can only detect the basic proximity and matter properties of objects in a room adjecent to one yer using the device in. I.E., you could tell that there was a large metal object about the size of a coffee table sitting infront of another object made out of several different materals. (couch).. but it was nowhere near as accurate or powerful enough to be of any use right now. A couple of years of research and upgrades as well as the incorperation of new discoveries however.... well we\'ll see.
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: Black Samurai on July 17, 2001, 12:52:24 PM
Since when was Area 51 a myth?

N-E-Ways, In this technomyth what were the results?
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Post by: Halberto on July 17, 2001, 03:01:00 PM
I know what that time travel experiment was called, the Philedelphia. :D

I have so much useless information :(
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Post by: on July 17, 2001, 03:03:15 PM
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Originally posted by ViVi
I know what that time travel experiment was called, the Philedelphia. :D

I have so much useless information :(


I saw that movie!  It was pretty boring.
Title: CYPHER!?!?! Check this out...
Post by: SonyFan on July 17, 2001, 08:30:00 PM
"Since when was Area 51 a myth?" - Gohan

Since it hasn\'t been prooven yet.

"N-E-Ways, In this technomyth what were the results?" - Gohan

The same as you describe. Most of the sailors suffered from severe dimentia, many disappeared, and others were found fused into the bulkheads. There\'s also a story of 3 confused sailors walking out of thin air into a pub on the other side of the country. Soon after they appeared, they dematerialized. Rumor has it, even though the results we\'re the desired ones, the Gov\'t decided to continue research on the project and have been experimenting with teleportation/timetravel for some time now. One of the top researchers for the Philidelphia experiment (don\'t remember the name) was even found dead of carbon monoxide poisioning in his car after supposedly threatening to go public.