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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: know-it-all-wanna-be on July 25, 2001, 04:45:39 PM
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Hello you guys, I have some question about component video cable.
The ps2 video output is interlace and I heard its not capable of transfering progressive picture. I have some question though about component video cable.
What kind of component cable does ps2 have?
It is Y - Cb - Cr
or
it is Y - Pb - Pr
I heard one of the 2 is progressive scan and run in high resolution, I don\'t know if this is true so I want your opinion.
Thanks.
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Originally posted by know-it-all-wanna-be
Hello you guys, I have some question about component video cable.
The ps2 video output is interlace and I heard its not capable of transfering progressive picture. I have some question though about component video cable.
What kind of component cable does ps2 have?
It is Y - Cb - Cr These are the digital signals on a DVD. They aren\'t cables.
or
it is Y - Pb - Pr These are the cables. They can be either high-definition or not.
I heard one of the 2 is progressive scan and run in high resolution, I don\'t know if this is true so I want your opinion.
Thanks.
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Y-Pb-Pr is component analog output. Y-Cb-Cr is component digital output. DVD players have analog component video output, no digital component. This includes the PS2.
Though digital is obviously better, probably less than 1% of the US has a truly digital television (HDTV does not automatically mean digital). Plus, both types run in high-resolution and progressive scan.
Component video (best): Some U.S. and Japanese players have interlaced component YUV (Y\'Pb\'Pr\') video output. Connectors may be labeled YUV, color difference, YPbPr, or Y/B-Y/R-Y, and may be colored green/blue/red. (Some players incorrectly label the output as YCbCr.)
At some point, HDTV displays will support component digital video connections (YCbCr) and digital data connections (FireWire/IEEE 1394). The digital connections will provide the best possible reproduction of DVD-Video, especially in widescreen mode.
The DVD FAQ (http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html)
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Originally posted by THX
Y-Pb-Pr is component analog output. Y-Cb-Cr is component digital output. DVD players have analog component video output, no digital component. This includes the PS2.
Gamecube has both! (See the post with the pictures for Jumpman in console debates.)
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That AV Digital out is for VGA.
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It\'s just like the Dreamcast with the VGA box, only it\'s included inside the GC. Not component digital out.
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Originally posted by THX
That AV Digital out is for VGA.
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It\'s just like the Dreamcast with the VGA box, only it\'s included inside the GC. Not component digital out.
Jeeze, that\'s the second time I\'ve been wrong about something today!
Thanks for clearing that up!
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Hey thanks THX, another question. Is the Component " Y - Cb - Cr" is equally good as the VGA cable?
I think I know what Y stand for. Luminance (black and white) right? While C stands for Chrominance (color). And the B stand for Blue and R stand for Red. If I am wrong, correct me.
If I am right, where the heck did the green go? I know that RGB stands for the three primary color for monitor screens, but why isn\'t component have it even though the cable was painted with it. Is Green being shared with Y (luminance)? Why is this?
Why is this freaking Letter coding more difficult and confusing to understand than older cable connection, why don\'t they make it easy like VGA?
Thanks.
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Is Y not for yellow?
In additive color, the three primary colors are Red, Blue and Yellow.
In subtracive color (most tv\'s and computer screens), the three primary colors are Red, Blue, and Green.
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Originally posted by Troglodyte
Is Y not for yellow? No. As stated, in component video it stands for luminance.
In additive color, the three primary colors are Red, Blue and Yellow. That\'s subtractive color. Technically, it should be cyan, magenta, and yellow.
In subtracive color (most tv\'s and computer screens), the three primary colors are Red, Blue, and Green. That\'s additive color.
I know this stuff because I use Adobe Photoshop 5.5 and I read Sound and Vision Magazine. However, sorry for the erroneous post above.
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Originally posted by OneGig
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I know this stuff because I use Adobe Photoshop 5.5 and I read Sound and Vision Magazine. However, sorry for the erroneous post above.
Well shoot. I\'m an art buff, not a mechanic, so I\'m thinking the systems have the same names, but are (as shown) completely different.
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Originally posted by OneGig
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I know this stuff because I use Adobe Photoshop 5.5 and I read Sound and Vision Magazine. However, sorry for the erroneous post above.
busted, Troglodyte!
Kidding.
Anyway, I found out something. I read the instruction manual and it said that ps2 can be connected either analog or digital component video cable through the av multi out.
Remember to set the system configuration to Y Cb/PB Cr/Pr on.
So is Component video is as good as RGB or VGA?
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Originally posted by THX
That AV Digital out is for VGA.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcubemedia.ign.com%2Fmedia%2Fhardware%2Fimage%2Fdvcable1.jpg&hash=1ef9293542a601640f9134bd060cb32e9ad9e1a1)
It\'s just like the Dreamcast with the VGA box, only it\'s included inside the GC. Not component digital out.
Sorry, I thought Jumpman might see this. That pic was released LAST SPACEWORLD, of the D Terminal, not VGA. They showed it there because almost all HDTVS in Japan run off the D Terminal. I\'m sorry I didn\'t see this sooner but, GC does run in component. If you ever have a question to something I don\'t see Trog, just PM me, I will be glad to answer. I was in Oklahoma when this came out. This explains everything:
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Component Video Cable
Price: $30 (3500 yen)
Release Date: September 14, 2001 (Japan launch)
Most modern HDTVs use component video cables to input a progressive scan signal. These cables provide the same funcationality as the D Terminal cables, but are much more popular. By using component video cables, those with a compatible HDTV will be able to input a 480p progressive scan signal, which offers a more picture with more density and clarity. Audio cables will be required to be used from the analog output on the back of GameCube.
This article is here (http://cube.ign.com/news/36569.html)
For an explanation on NGC\'s component cable progressive scan capablities, click here (http://cube.ign.com/hardware/291.html)
I condem you THX, without backing up your knowledge up, all you found was that and didn\'t check for anything else. You should have said that you weren\'t really sure because you didn\'t do enough research.
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Originally posted by JediMaster
I condem you THX, without backing up your knowledge up, all you found was that and didn\'t check for anything else. You should have said that you weren\'t really sure because you didn\'t do enough research. [/color]
Yeah! I was right! I guess a little elbow grease was all I needed! Thanks JediMaster!
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Originally posted by JediMaster
I condem you THX, without backing up your knowledge up, all you found was that and didn\'t check for anything else. You should have said that you weren\'t really sure because you didn\'t do enough research. [/color]
Condemn me to what? heh. I saw both those articles before you posted em.
To back up my statement, look back at my post. I said component digital out. No source does component digital out. Only analog. As for that plug, I\'m glad it outputs to VGA and component, and thanks for correcting me. I just glanced over the descriptions and assumed the component cables were being plugged into the analog AV out. I apologize for that.
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But jeez man lighten up, one little mistake and a Jedi wants to condemn me??? Happy hunting.
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Those are GC pictures. I thought your question was about the PS2\'s component video output.
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onegig- yea those are gc pics. The topic is indeed about component video and the ps2, but we seemed to go off topic and talk about the a/v outputs of the gc as a comparison.
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Well you can clearly look at IGN\'s GameCube HardWare pictures and clearly read Digital AV out;) Ign even had an article on the HardWare Page about Component Video cables about 5 days after August the 26. Also, that is D Ternminal, not VGA, they are very similar though.
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Hey
the article said gamecube is both digital and analog video output. If digital, it can do 480p @ 60hz...that\'s all. 480 seems a very good resolution. a medium quality, about 4 times higher resolution than N64.
But!...I think PS2 can go like 1280 x 1024p @ 60hz but dued to vram limitations and ps2 NTSC output, no games run any higher than 480p and some runs at a shame rate at 480i. It is possible to go higher than 480p even though there is limitation to vram?
Now to XBOX, why does people compare gamecube to ps2 and left out xbox? I know XBOX have both digital/analog video output too, what else? well XBOX have high quality mode like 480p, 720p, and highest 1080i.