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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Living-In-Clip on August 05, 2001, 10:40:12 AM
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Last generation, we saw Square help establish Sony in the position they are in now. Which third party developer do you think plays the most important role this generation? I personally believe Sega will.
This will be the first time Sega has went third party, of course. Sega having a loyal fanbase and enough franchises could easily help make a console sell. For example, pretend that the Xbox gets more of Sega\'s franchises and classic ones at that (Panzer Dragoon!) this is goin\' to help sell alot of Xbox units. Sega is in a position where each hardware developer wants and needs them . Where most their games go could change alot of things.
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S-E-G-A definitely SEGA. They are the Wild Card. Just like Last Generation, where the Square/Sony alliance was NEW and untouched territory. Certainly, SEGA as a 3rd party is the newest TWIST that will decide the outcome of this generation. Which consoles gets the better SEGA franchises and titles? GCN w/ Sonic, PS2 w/ VF, or XBox w/ Panzer and others.
All this SEGA talk makes me mad I had to start school and had to focus my money toward books, and stuff. :evil:
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I say None... Sega is making games on all 3 systems sure panzier dragon is awesome classic game, but sadly it won\'t impact xbox as much as ff did for psx.....and sega is putting there respective titles on each system....so
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I disagree. Sega although a big player in the next generation 3rd party scene is only really releasing rehashes on all consoles. Zombie Revenge, Phantasy Star Online, 18 Wheeler, Jet Set Radio: Future etc.
In my opinion this alone will make them a big player but not the biggest player. Anyone wanting Sega fun can buy a second hand Dreamcast for next to nothing.
My vote goes for Konami. They are after all releasing two big PS2 titles, MGS2 and Silent Hill 2. Then at the same time their also releasing for other consoles, MGSX.
Sony will really want Konami to succeed and although they are mainly PS2 based their impact on the console scene will be one of the biggest. They have some of the biggest games coming up.
If I had to choose a second i\'d say Namco or prehaps Capcom.
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I say 3DO. I think Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft will be spending oodles of cash to keep 3DO games away from their console. The company with the most Army Men games will probably lose this generation.
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Originally posted by Gohan
I say 3DO. I think Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft will be spending oodles of cash to keep 3DO games away from their console. The company with the most Army Men games will probably lose this generation.
:laughing:
I knew someone was goin\' to say something like that.
Nice one, man.
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Enix. If a game company could ever make or break a system in Japan, it\'s Enix. Just having a DQ game in your lineup even 3 years from now is enough to certify at least 5 million consoles being sold, even if the game is terrible. Having Enix on your console means almost certain victory in Japan and if Nintendo or MS wanted to make an impact on the already bloated Sony infested gaming market there, Enix would be the way to go. You can\'t win a console war unless you win the hearts of the Japanese.
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>"You can\'t win a console war unless you win the hearts of the Japanese."
Yep, I agree
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I\'ll vote for three:
Sega, for reasons already stated.
Square, FF series, online and offline.
Rockstar, has a great start on the PS2, helped push out titles in the first year of PS2, not a big part, but a signifigant one.
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My vote goes to Konami.
They have to very hyped, and hopefully very good, games coming out. If this company were to go exclusive to any of the three it would be a major blow to the other two.
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Originally posted by Ryu
Enix. If a game company could ever make or break a system in Japan, it\'s Enix. Just having a DQ game in your lineup even 3 years from now is enough to certify at least 5 million consoles being sold, even if the game is terrible. Having Enix on your console means almost certain victory in Japan and if Nintendo or MS wanted to make an impact on the already bloated Sony infested gaming market there, Enix would be the way to go. You can\'t win a console war unless you win the hearts of the Japanese.
You know if fails me to understand what makes Enix so big in japan has anyone played DW on psx...just pure crap...there living off a game that was good when it was on nes..
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In your opinion it\'s crap, but to them, they eat it like candy. Hey, these are people who like games like "Let\'s make a pro baseball team!" and Dating Sims. Maybe it\'s just a cultural influence, but it is something they definitely love and it does sell like hotcakes over there. Wanna know some interesting tidbits about the Japanese people and DragonQuest? It is illegle for a DQ game to be released on a school day. Heh, go figure.
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Sega. who else?
Where Sega\'s best Dev teams get comfortable decide on what consoles many Sega fans will buy.
The reason I am buying X-Box is because I KNOW many good Sega games are being made for it. Panzer Dragoon alone warrants a purchase for me.
They are also making Virtua Fighter 4 for PS2. Virtua Fighter is the biggest Japanese arcade game, and Virtua Fighter 3 was on the arcade top 10 list up until 2000, 4 years later. VF4 sales will be huge for PS2\'s success, even though, it is pretty much guaranteed already. I crap you not that if VF4 was moved to X-Box, and exclusive at that, MANY japanese people would be investing in X-Box.
Shenmue, while selling only about a million worldwide, will also be a huge push for any system. If it were announced today for \'X\' system, I would invest heavily into that, as a game of that scope and beauty deserves to be played. If Shenmue III is released on PS2 (doubtful because of harddisk avail.), a system that willl easily sell as well as much as N64 did, I guarantee sales of Shenmue will be huge.
Some people would disagree because Sega couldn\'t support their OWN system. Well, netheir can Nintendo, believe it or not. When Sega was going at DC alone, with the exception of Capcom, they were quit alone. SUre, 150 devs signed up, but who really made stellar titles for DC? hardly any, most crapped on Sega and developed them for PSX or waited for PS2. Namco releases one stellar title, then craps on Sega and releases Namco Museum (big ****ing whoop), Ms. Pacman\'s Maze Madness (whoopdeedoo!), and a couple others. No RR, no Tekken, no SC sequel, etc.
Who would\'ve bought an N64 without EA\'s sport titles? We all know that Akk-lame\'s sports couldn\'t hold it. Or what about Turok? arguably Acclaim\'s best titles in the past 5 years, some people consider it N64\'s best titles.
N64 would\'ve sold probably just 20 million worldwide before crapping out. Every system needs 3rd parties and Sega means alot, too any systemmaker for console sales, to get back on topic. All I know is, until I see Panzer Dragoon or JSR:F announced for any other system, I will be glad to purchase one on launch.
Eric Jacob
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I would say SEGA, I’m biased so sue me. :D
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Sega, Square and Namco
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Sega,Square,Konami,Namco.
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The most important developer as far as Japan goes is Enix, followed by Square. But, for world-wide influence, Iwould have to say Konami, followed by Capcom. Games like Mgs2 and Silent are going to sell a truck load, in America and Europe. They won\'t do as good in Japan, but they will sell pretty well. And then Capcom has the Resident Evil series. When they finally release RE4, it\'s going to sell a lot of consoles. Capcom also has some strong new series, such as Onimusha and the soon to be released Devil May Cry. :cool:
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But those companies you mentioned Kenny are holdovers from last generation.
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Sega. who else?
Where Sega\'s best Dev teams get comfortable decide on what consoles many Sega fans will buy.
The reason I am buying X-Box is because I KNOW many good Sega games are being made for it. Panzer Dragoon alone warrants a purchase for me.
They are also making Virtua Fighter 4 for PS2. Virtua Fighter is the biggest Japanese arcade game, and Virtua Fighter 3 was on the arcade top 10 list up until 2000, 4 years later. VF4 sales will be huge for PS2\'s success, even though, it is pretty much guaranteed already. I crap you not that if VF4 was moved to X-Box, and exclusive at that, MANY japanese people would be investing in X-Box.
Shenmue, while selling only about a million worldwide, will also be a huge push for any system. If it were announced today for \'X\' system, I would invest heavily into that, as a game of that scope and beauty deserves to be played. If Shenmue III is released on PS2 (doubtful because of harddisk avail.), a system that willl easily sell as well as much as N64 did, I guarantee sales of Shenmue will be huge.
Some people would disagree because Sega couldn\'t support their OWN system. Well, netheir can Nintendo, believe it or not. When Sega was going at DC alone, with the exception of Capcom, they were quit alone. SUre, 150 devs signed up, but who really made stellar titles for DC? hardly any, most crapped on Sega and developed them for PSX or waited for PS2. Namco releases one stellar title, then craps on Sega and releases Namco Museum (big ****ing whoop), Ms. Pacman\'s Maze Madness (whoopdeedoo!), and a couple others. No RR, no Tekken, no SC sequel, etc.
Who would\'ve bought an N64 without EA\'s sport titles? We all know that Akk-lame\'s sports couldn\'t hold it. Or what about Turok? arguably Acclaim\'s best titles in the past 5 years, some people consider it N64\'s best titles.
N64 would\'ve sold probably just 20 million worldwide before crapping out. Every system needs 3rd parties and Sega means alot, too any systemmaker for console sales, to get back on topic. All I know is, until I see Panzer Dragoon or JSR:F announced for any other system, I will be glad to purchase one on launch.
Eric Jacob
Exactly, I think Sega will be a huge influence this time round. They have around 60 titles in development through March 2002. Then over 80 Mar 02-03.
I hate to do it, but I disagree with anyone who says Konami will be a big influence. They aren\'t making that many games! MGS will be big...for about 3 months then that\'s it. Silent Hill will be nice but same thing, what\'s after that? Konami has two big games then that\'s it (FIFA makes 3). Isn\'t this the last Metal Gear? For the overall picture, I just don\'t see them "deciding" who comes out on top.
And if Namco wants to make a bigger impact, they need to broaden their franchises. They have big sellers, but they only release a few games a year.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
You know if fails me to understand what makes Enix so big in japan has anyone played DW on psx...just pure crap...there living off a game that was good when it was on nes..
Are you talking about Square?
Oh, my mistake.
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I didn\'t read any replies, because someone probably already said what I\'m about to say.
My choice would have to be Square, but only under one condition- they stay exclusive to only 1 console. The FF series has a moron like cult going for it and they will follow the series where ever it goes. It was a big boost fir the PSX, and it would be a big boost for NGC or Xbox. And Sega being exclusive would cause the same affect.
But of course, they probably won\'t stay exclusive for everyone, making that paragraph useless. :P
To be honest, from the looks of it no 3rd party is going to make a huge difference in this generation. Sega is developing for everyone pretty much equally from the looks of it, so they\'re not going to decide the out-come.
Forget this. Only exclusives games matter and from the looks of it PS2 is getting the big ones from the 3rd parties. Bah. now I\'m going to read what\'s going on.
Boring stuff.
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Hmm.. I dont think ONE company could make a diffrance..
But if I had to choose it would be Sqare-soft.. (remember FFX release? FFgames is a huge system seller.)