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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: rastalant on August 09, 2001, 10:58:22 AM
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I\'m talking about with games not sales. Lets compare.
Gamecube - Super Smash Bros. Melee
Super Smash Brothers Melee is a fighting game, much like Powerstone for the Dreamcast, where you get to choose from many of the popular characters from the Nintendo universe and battle it out. The characters include Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus and more. From some hands on experience at E3, I could say that this game is colorful, fast-paced, and lots of fun.
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Xbox - Dead or Alive 3
While Dead or Alive 3 was only showing in trailer format at E3, it was still a show-stopper. The game pushes the Xbox hardware as far as any game around, and from the footage we saw of the Microsoft financial meeting, the actual gameplay is awesome. The environment looks real and the on-screen characters are life-like.
Final Verdict: Both games may fall in the fighting genre, but they cater to a diverse audience. Super Smash seems to be pushing for the fun-factor while DOA3 is looking to provide a sense of realism.
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Gamecube - NBA Courtside 2002
Left Field Productions and Nintendo are teaming up to bring a version of NBA Courtside to the Gamecube to fill that basketball void. The early playable version at E3 didn\'t look like much of an improvement over Sega\'s NBA2K on the Dreamcast. The AI was poor and the controls were mediocre, however there were a few elements of the game that were well done. On the Gamecube controller, the yellow directional trigger on the face of the controller was set as directional pass and it worked brilliantly. Some of the motion capture, like layups and dunks, were well done.
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Xbox - NBA Inside Drive 2002
The Xbox will have atleast three basketball games by close to year\'s end. We haven\'t heard much about NBA Inside Drive 2002, but last year\'s PC version was a solid title, both graphically and in terms of gameplay. With Microsoft\'s Inside Drive, Sega\'s NBA 2K2, and EA\'s NBA Live 2002 all coming to the Xbox within a few weeks of each other, basketball fans should find an acceptable answer to their hoop cravings.
Final Verdict: NBA Courside 2002 looks like it will end up being a decent basketball sim, and we haven\'t seen Inside Drive yet, so the verdict is still out on this one.
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Gamecube - Luigi\'s Mansion
As the flagship title for the Gamecube launch, Luigi has a huge burden on his shoulders. Although the game looked good graphically at E3, it didn\'t compare to the original FMVs we were shown by Nintendo last year. The game isn\'t fast-paced like a typical Mario game, but rather a puzzle-adventure game where you control the slow-moving Luigi and his "ghostbuster" tools through a haunted mansion. To say the least, this game did not interest me, as an adult, at all.
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Xbox - Oddworld: Munch\'s Oddysee
Like Luigi\'s Mansion, Oddworld: Munch\'s Oddysee is one of the flagship titles for its respective platform, the Xbox. To many editors at E3, Oddworld came away as the best Xbox game on the floor. Graphically, the game\'s environments were beautiful and the character models were unique , but strange. I personally didn\'t fall in love with the game like many of my fellow editors because of my gaming tastes, but it is a highly original and imaginative game. For those two reasons alone, Oddworld deserves a ton of credit. Add to that the ton of time the game has been in production and you\'ll end up with a game that\'ll keep you entertained for a very long time.
Final Verdict: Unless you\'re under the age of 10, I\'d recommend Oddworld over Luigi\'s Mansion any day of the week.
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Gamecube - Star Wars Rogue Leader
If there was one game that consistently had a huge crowd wanting to play it at E3, it was the Star Wars: Rogue Leader for the Gamecube. I, too, was awfully gitty while waiting my turn to get a chance to try it out. The visuals really are all that and a bag of lightsabers. Factor 5 has done an amazing job successfully recreating the feeling of being in a Star Wars space battle. If they could keep the gameplay from getting too redundant, then there\'s no reason not to buy this game.
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Xbox - Air Force Delta Storm
AFDS\'s planes look as realistic as you can get in a game. After staring for a few minutes (or hours) in awe and the initial shock of the plane models wears off, you\'ll notice that the environment you\'re flying in doesn\'t look quite as nice as the plane. That would be alright if the gameplay will be able to compensate. The E3 build wasn\'t as exciting as the screenshots suggest, but overall, AFDS seems like a good title for arcade flight fans.
Final Verdict: Hands down, Star War\'s Rogue Leader. Pound for pound, Rogue Leader looks to be one of the best titles released on any platform. While Air Force Delta Storm may end up being a quality title, it\'s simply outmatched the Leader.
Stay tuned for Part II tommorow where we\'ll cover the remaining titles as well as those titles on each platform that don\'t seem to have an answer on the rival platform for the month of November.
For me I think xbox has more games I want in the long run. As for the xbox I really want doa3, halo, project gothem, and RAW is War. Gamecube does have some good games too like RS2, Luigi Mansion. Well I think xbox edges it out. What do you guys think?
:thepimp: :thepimp:
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Originally posted by raslant
Gamecube - Luigi\'s Mansion
As the flagship title for the Gamecube launch, Luigi has a huge burden on his shoulders. Although the game looked good graphically at E3, it didn\'t compare to the original FMVs we were shown by Nintendo last year. The game isn\'t fast-paced like a typical Mario game, but rather a puzzle-adventure game where you control the slow-moving Luigi and his "ghostbuster" tools through a haunted mansion. To say the least, this game did not interest me, as an adult, at all.
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it didn\'t compare to the original FMVs we were shown by Nintendo last year
What FMV?The Spaceworld trailer last year was not a FMV.:eyemouth:
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I know oops some of this came from ignxbox. The luigi masnion at spaceworld and e3 were both real-time. Show how much ignxbox knows.:thepimp: :thepimp:
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Titles I want at or around launch:
Gamecube-
Wave Race: Blue Storm
Super Smash Bros.
Starfox Adventures
Xbox-
Munch
Amped
Project Gotham
Jet Grind Radio Future
Dead or Alive 3
Xbox wins by 2!
I will end up getting a GC when Zelda comes out next Fall...
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Its all personal taste. I am more impressed with the GC line up, but provided I have the cash, I plan on gettin\' both at launch now.
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Super Smash seems to be pushing for the fun-factor while DOA3 is looking to provide a sense of realism.
IGNxBox unknowingly admitted SSB was going to be a better game. :laughing: LOL. I always thought IGNXbox was the worst of the IGN gaming sites. :laughing:
Final Verdict: Unless you\'re under the age of 10, I\'d recommend Oddworld over Luigi\'s Mansion any day of the week.
hhhhmmm...they don\'t realize that Luigi\'s Mansion wasn\'t being showned in full form. Ah well, we won\'t know until SpaceWorld.
it didn\'t compare to the original FMVs we were shown by Nintendo last year.
Now that justs shows how dumb they are. :rolleyes:
Anyways, since I\'m getting a NGC at Christmas, I\'m looking past the launch and the best game I see being released in that time is by far Eternal Darkness. And I can only afford one game and that game looks to be the best of the bunch IMO. :)
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I\'d rather have SSBM any day (BEST FIGHTING GAME IN THE WORLD!!!)
Must I constantly say this, the demo of Lugi\'s Mansion at E3 was like running around in the courtyard oustide of peaches castle. Most of the game is unknown.
Wave Race has always been a major fun racer, XBox doesn\'t have any racer at launch that compares to Wave Race.
Munch
Amped
Project Gotham
Jet Grind Radio Future
Dead or Alive 3
We are talking about LAUNCH games here.
doing what you did make us have to include Eternal Darkness and PSO vr2.
No one even mentioned Pikmin, looks like a quality title, so it looks kiddy, who cares. Its a RTS, and RTS rule. RTS, Adventure RPG, and Fligh/Space Sims, are my fav genres.
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Gamecube:
Luigi\'s Mansion
RS2
Wave race 2
Super Mario 2(I know they are going to announce it this month)
XBOX:
DOA3
Munch
Halo
Shrek
PS2:
Metal gear solid 2
Devil May cry
Jak and Daxter
Silent hill 2
SSX:Tricky
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SSX: Tricky is on the GameCube also moron.
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Originally posted by JediMaster
I\'d rather have SSBM any day (BEST FIGHTING GAME IN THE WORLD!!!)
Must I constantly say this, the demo of Lugi\'s Mansion at E3 was like running around in the courtyard oustide of peaches castle. Most of the game is unknown.
Wave Race has always been a major fun racer, XBox doesn\'t have any racer at launch that compares to Wave Race.
We are talking about LAUNCH games here.
doing what you did make us have to include Eternal Darkness and PSO vr2.
No one even mentioned Pikmin, looks like a quality title, so it looks kiddy, who cares. Its a RTS, and RTS rule. RTS, Adventure RPG, and Fligh/Space Sims, are my fav genres.
Okay, first of all I said at or around launch. So back off!
Eternal Darkness looks good, but not my taste.
PSO vr2 (why would I get the second if I don\'t like PSO on DC) And yes I have played PSO on DC, I own it!
So, I have made it clear I\'m not some blind fanboy or something?
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I\'m not bashing you. I was just pointing that out, all of the GCs you mentioned launch. I don\'t want people to get the wrong opinions about the launch games or something.
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SSX: Tricky is on the GameCube also moron.
Hey,Why did you call me a moron?I\'m not going to get all three(Gamecube,Xbox,Ps2) version of SSX:Tricky so I had to pick which version to get and that the PS2 version .
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I don\'t know enough, nor care enough about either to make a proper descision.
Although, I DO know that Panzer Dragoon and JSR:F will be on X-Box. decision easy.
Eric Jacob
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Just so you guys know, this article is from teamxbox.com, not from xboxIGN. Here is the link to part 1 and part 2:
http://www.teamxbox.com/article.php?id=97&t=f
http://www.teamxbox.com/article.php?id=98&p=0&t=f
Raslant, if you take a whole article from a site, the least you could do is give them credit for it.
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its allopinion which console will have better games at launch, so its not right to compare them. i probably wont get either because ps2 has the games for me, and thats why i got it.
but right now the only problem is that it is in boston.
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hhh
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Originally posted by raslant
hhh
explain.;)
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Oh sorry I was just testing.
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GameCube by far.
It\'s gonna humiliate XBOX, but later on... that\'s a different story. ;)
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But once again nintendo doesn\'t have a "true" fighting game and rpg. I mean SBM is alright and all but I wouldn\'t put it up against nothing like tekken 4, vf4, or doa3. Cause all three of those fighters are serious and not to mention they all destory SBM graphics. But the bottom line is I think xbox is going to have more varity than gamecube.:thepimp: :thepimp:
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Vivi sees the truth, the GC will humilate the XBox, then the XBox will give the PS2 a run for its money, and the GC will sell well, and all consoles will tie in the console wars.
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its all about opinion...personally i could care less about any xbox launch title so far...DOA3 is the only one that caught my attention, but i wouldnt buy the xbox for it...ill wait until games like jetset radio future, or other sega games come out for it...not just sega but some other 3rd party games...
as for the gamecube, i was highly anticipating wave race till i found out it was running at 30fps and i heard the boring porn music (this is pathetic already)...
i lost interest in luigis mansion (so far, it seems that all you do is suck up ghosts)..i thought luigi was gonna be more like a mario game in a haunted ghost house....
star fox adventure i like...and rogue leader looks incredible...i hope it runs at a solid 60 fps though...
but i dont see myself getting one until i see nintendo making less kiddie style games and actually taking advantage of the systems power...im yet to see zelda and metroid..id also like to see 3rd party work there also....then ill prolly get it...
besides, come launch time ill have MGS2, hopefully Shen Mue 2, and DMC just a few weeks before.....
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lestat, Wave Race still runs pretty fast at 30 FPS. It doesn\'t hamper it at all.
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Originally posted by ElAsesino
lestat, Wave Race still runs pretty fast at 30 FPS. It doesn\'t hamper it at all.
30fps still sucks for a next generation system. Unless the graphics are unmatched, but waveracer doesn\'t even look that good.:alien: :alien:
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Xbox just doesn\'t have that stand out launch game that will sell systems. IMO, GCN has a few; but that is my opinion. :D
So my vote goes to GCN having the better launch lineup. But me being the tool that I am I will buy both of them at launch. *OH WHY DO I HAVE TO BE A GAMING ADDICT?!?!?!*
I\'m considering taking the whole month of November and December off. There is too much gaming and too little time. :D
<----O koo, 1998. Thats the year I graduated from High School.
Class -O- \'98
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Although, I DO know that Panzer Dragoon and JSR:F will be on X-Box. decision easy.
Don\'t forget that Planet Harriers is coming to the GC. --
Personally I prefer the GC lineup. I\'m for sure getting a GC @ launch, and I\'m still skeptical about X-Box. I know I will eventually get an X-box (thanks to SEGA), but I doubt it will be @ launch. Nintendo\'s games are more appealing to me.
I\'m considering taking the whole month of November and December off. There is too much gaming and too little time.
No joke. I\'m taking the first 2 weeks of November off. The first week to enjoy the GC, and the next because of MGS2 and my bday. Gonna be a good 2 weeks.
/ dm / end transmission. /
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I love the nintendo franchises and that\'s enough reason for me to favor gamecube over xbox (at least for now). Oh yeah...there\'s this game called Rogue Leader......lets see....damn...so hard for me to decide......uuuumm I think yes the gamecube will be joining my ps2 this fall. :cool:
Again, however, it really boils down to what games people like and whether they will be found on the xbox launch list or the gamecube launch list. For me I just don\'t see anything on that xbox launch list that makes me go, "oooooh, aaaaah, I need this game. I need an xbox." The way I see it I\'ll probably end up getting an xbox sometime in 2002.
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Gamecube games look fun..... but Xbox just has the games that make you go :surprised and are more "mature".... and I love "mature" games! I do!:D
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SSB:M rules! (I don\'t like mature games.) hint, hint...
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Originally posted by OneGig
SSB:M rules! (I don\'t like mature games.) hint, hint...
You must not have played the tekken series before? Thats a real fighting game.:thepimp:
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Like said before it is all about person taste(and fanboyism:laughing: ) A lot of ppl screaming oh I can\'t find one single game that appeals to me. So that is why I will pick this are mostly the biggest fanboys. Seeing how ppl pick ps2 or dreamcast when dreamcast had a kickazz list of games. As far as it goes for the best quality of games. You can\'t say this one or that one. FANBOYS can argue nintendo\'s track recored or ms quality control all they want.
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I know I prefer tekken and about every other fighting game over SSB.:thepimp:
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Originally posted by raslant
I know I prefer tekken and about every other fighting game over SSB.
I think thats fairly obvious. Your last 20 or so posts have been saying the exact same thing.
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How long, what area, did you play SSB? I still belive you never played it before.
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Originally posted by JediMaster
Vivi sees the truth, the GC will humilate the XBox, then the XBox will give the PS2 a run for its money, and the GC will sell well, and all consoles will tie in the console wars.
you honestly think that???
*basks in the projected 20 million PS2\'s worldwide byt the time GC and XBox are released*
:)
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There can\'t be a tie with 3 console in the market. Someone is going to have to fall hard and I\'m not sure who\'s it going to be? :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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Originally posted by raslant
There can\'t be a tie with 3 console in the market. Someone is going to have to fall hard and I\'m not sure who\'s it going to be? :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
I think it going to be Atari. They keep rehashing the same hardware with only a few updated specs and a ridiulous price. Look for them to fall HARD.
Wait a second. What year is this again?
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Who are you talking about gohan? :thepimp:
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
you honestly think that???
*basks in the projected 20 million PS2\'s worldwide byt the time GC and XBox are released*
:)
Actually, it\'s 20 million by March 2002. :) Probably around 15 million by the time the NGC and Xbox are released.
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Originally posted by IronFist
Actually, it\'s 20 million by March 2002. :) Probably around 15 million by the time the NGC and Xbox are released.
Still thats a big head start;)
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Originally posted by raslant
Who are you talking about gohan?
umm.......Atari?
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Xbox all the way. A couple years ago it probably would have been Gamecube but Mario and company just are not doing it for me anymore.
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Originally posted by ProfessorX
Xbox all the way. A couple years ago it probably would have been Gamecube but Mario and company just are not doing it for me anymore.
Hmmmmmm.......I know what you mean it seems nintendo changed from the snes days to day. I mean they mostly just do kiddy games today. Snes always had something good out.:thepimp: :thepimp:
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Oh yeah, data! I forgot about Planet Harriers!!
That is one of the few new Sgea games that my arcade hasn\'t gotten, but since I am such an addict to the past ones, I will definitely have to buy a GC now.
When is it supposed to come out? The looks incredibly detailed and very textured! Kind of like a souped up Panzer Dragoon :)
don\'t forget about Monkey Ball, either (Marble Madness!)
Eric Jacob
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Whoa... I thought Nintendo went against your religion or something Alteredbeast. Why the sudden change??
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I have always planned on buying a GC, if not for the games it will have, then for the collection value. But never on launch did I want one, as none of the launch games look too appealing to me.
I follow Sega, where their good games go, I go!
UPDATE - I just read that Farnation is going to X-Box. Farnation was a MMORPG, much in the same vain as UO, for Dreamcast that was canceled. I just found out it is being dev\'d for X-Box, this is another really good reason to own this gignatic lump of plastic :)
Eric Jacob