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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: rastalant on August 10, 2001, 01:48:48 PM
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Got this from gaming age.
Iwas at quakecon today and I went to the ID press conference.
On PS2 "It isn\'t powerful enough to handle Doom 3 in its current form and we aren\'t currently planning a version for the PS2/ If a PS2 version is announced, it will be done by an outside developer."
On XBOX "This system can hit our sweet spot for graphics and it can do Doom 3 without any graphical changes, however the levels might need to be segmented since there isn\'t enough ram to put a whole level in"
On Gamecube "We know nothing about this system and Nintendo has shown us nothing"
Hmmmmmmm........interesting xbox is the only system that can handle it and gamecube they know nothing about?:thepimp:
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I don\'t like DOOM :laughing: :) :laughing:
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iD can take DOOM and shove it where the sun don\'t shine. Mr. Carmack *cough* mentioned that his target framerate on a GeForce 3 was 30fps. On a GeForce 3! So I can only imagine those of us with inferior videocards... we\'ll be running Doom @ 10-15fps. Yup, great for sales. :rolleyes:
( -- this is in relation to the PC version of course.)
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It has to be segmented because there\'s not enough memory? You know...this game is going to blow. I don\'t think they know how to program for the consoles the way they need to be programmed for. I would like to see what it look like right now...the "current form". It must look incredible...:sconf:
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Originally posted by datamage
iD can take DOOM and shove it where the sun don\'t shine. Mr. Carmack *cough* mentioned that his target framerate on a GeForce 3 was 30fps. On a GeForce 3! So I can only imagine those of us with inferior videocards... we\'ll be running Doom @ 10-15fps. Yup, great for sales. :rolleyes:
( -- this is in relation to the PC version of course.)
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30 FPS on a GeForce 3?? What kind of madness are we dealing with here??
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damn again how many developers will continue taking shot at ps2..not being able to handle graphics.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
damn again how many developers will continue taking shot at ps2..not being able to handle graphics.
Until the remove their head from their a**, which will be a very long time... ~8-/
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Originally posted by raslant
Got this from gaming age.
Iwas at quakecon today and I went to the ID press conference.
On PS2 "It isn\'t powerful enough to handle Doom 3 in its current form and we aren\'t currently planning a version for the PS2/ If a PS2 version is announced, it will be done by an outside developer."
On XBOX "This system can hit our sweet spot for graphics and it can do Doom 3 without any graphical changes, however the levels might need to be segmented since there isn\'t enough ram to put a whole level in"
On Gamecube "We know nothing about this system and Nintendo has shown us nothing"
Hmmmmmmm........interesting xbox is the only system that can handle it and gamecube they know nothing about?:thepimp:
Thanks for the Link Ras.
Yeah, Doom ! Ok, i love doom,
although it is funny what Carmack said, not enough ram? Gimme a break, what does he need 512? How efficient is he? :nut:
Well my PC won\'t handle that for sure, :rolleyes:
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Carmack is a very talented developer. Which means he is also very intelligent. Sadly, along with that intelligence and talent comes arrogance. I won\'t dispute what he said about the various consoles, because I don\'t work at ID. I wouldn\'t know. However, comments he has made in the press time after time shows his arrogance and \'my way or no way\' attitude.
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On another note,
What would you expect Mr. PC to say regarding the X-box and PS2? He\'s always been anti-console.
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Originally posted by datamage
On another note,
What would you expect Mr. PC to say regarding the X-box and PS2? He\'s always been anti-console.
^^^Always.
I believe it was said a while ago that id was supporting the Xbox so why would he hype up the PS2 and Gamecube?
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Doom 3 did does look sweet I can\'t wait to play it. Hmmmmm.......maybe xbox will come out with it?:thepimp:
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Of course he would say that. He grew up programming on computers. Why would he waste his time learning a whole new way of programming by making Doom 3 for the PS2? I respect this guy a lot because he is almost exactly the kind of guy I want to be. He started as a bedroom programmer, then hit it big with Commander Keen (I think).
And about splitting the levels up -- what is this guy doing?! I thought he was smarter than that. Instead of learning a way to fix the problem, he is just going to take the easy way out.
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John Carmack is propably one of the most talented programmers out there, sadly he is also one of the most closed minded,he likes x86 and only x86.Since the X-Box is a x86 based console it makes since for him to like it.
A while back he talked about AltiVec implementation in the Mac version of Q3A, he said it was too difficult (when it is known that AltiVec implementation is easier than implementing SSE instructions) and not worth it, some other guy at iD who had more experience with PPC code managed to get it working in a week and it payed off.
I don\'t really trust his word when it comes to consoles,when he\'s talking about PC\'s I belive him.
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*doesnt care as he isnt buying it*
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Doom 3 May Come to PS2
"At QuakeCon today, Id Lead Programmer John Carmack said that the highly anticipated PC first-person shooter Doom 3 may be ported to PS2 and Xbox. He added that a conversion won\'t look as good as the PC version on PS2 -- the Xbox port will look pretty near to the PC version, though levels will be segmented because of RAM restrictions. Activsion has an excellent relationship with Id, so it\'s the most likely potential publisher. Also, Id is not likely to develop the potential game, leaving the task for an outside developer."
I got ignps2, but didn\'t john say he didn\'t plan on bring it to a console. If he does he said it wouldn\'t look as good, strange how he didn\'t even mention gamecube. More proof that 3rd parties are avioding gamecube. I still say ps2(Is already better than gamecube) and xbox is going better than gamecube. 3rd parties is the key just look at every system that won its generation every time it had the most 3rd parties. :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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Originally posted by raslant
More proof that 3rd parties are avioding gamecube. I still say ps2(Is already better than gamecube) and xbox is going better than gamecube. 3rd parties is the key just look at every system that won its generation every time it had the most 3rd parties. :nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
How is this proof of 3rd parties avoiding the Gamecube? It has already been established that he prefers the Xbox over all the other consoles(due to its PC-like architecture) and he probably decided to port it to the PS2 because of its huge installed userbase.
Please don\'t jump to conclusions unless these conclusions happen to be over a cliff. :D j/k
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