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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ##RaCeR## on August 13, 2001, 01:52:53 AM
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I have just finished reading an interview that pstow has posted on the GT3 forum.
He states that he has done all he can on the PS2 hardware...
This gets me kinda concerned. Is he stating that GT3 (graphically) is the best he can do???
It is only a 2nd gen game, and I think that the PS2 must be capable of doing more then what he has portrade.
I also get the feeling from reading the interview that GTN or GT ONLINE will not be graphically superiour to GT3. That is a real worry.
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Just now I don\'t know the reason why he stated that...but it can\'t be true ! ...or he meant..."I\'ve done all I can according to current knowledge of the hardware..."
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Well, read the interview at the GT3 forum posted by pstwo, because that is basically what it states...
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Ok.. forgot what I wrote..
I thought you meant the old interview.. (where he never said graphics)
Im sure he doesnt want to promisse to much.. He might be waiting for PA2.
From what Ive read GT3 does not max-out PS2..
Its useing around 50-60% (maybe 70%) of PS2s polygon power..
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Well, read the interview at the GT3 forum posted by pstwo, because that is basically what it states...
...yes:( ...and nope:)...read carefully the interview...
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Q: So what new developments will we see in the next GT?
A: I talked about this a little during the launch party, but with what we can do right now on the PS2... like, with the sound and graphics, we\'ve pretty much done everything we can. There are some little things left to fix, and we\'re preparing to work on those, but we can\'t do the next generation of Gran Turismo on the PS2 right now. So all that\'s left to change is the gameplay itself, whether it\'s introducing network play or whatever. And just connecting with people far away and racing them isn\'t fun by itself, so I\'d like to provide some network service which allows for more gameplay than that.
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Q: You\'re busy working on the overseas version of GT3 right now. What\'s your plan after that?
A: Well, my first vacation in six years. Some things you can only get by taking a good break every now and then. The GT team\'s been steadily increasing in size since 1, but it hasn\'t changed very much, so just about all of us have been working nonstop for six years. Sundays and holidays, too. We\'ve done everything we can on the PS2, so I decided we should all get away from work before taking the next step. I\'ve got about two months off, but I think I\'ll be staying away from the office until the end of August. *
I\'m confused now ##RaCeR##...I\'m almost sure(from what I read) that PS2 can do much better in 3,4 and 5th generation of games...even the latest PSX games look much better than the early games...but he has clearly stated *We\'ve done everything we can on the PS2, so I decided we should all get away from work before taking the next step*...The next step on PS3...that\'s what he means ?!...or in the next 2 or 3 years on PS2?(because he also said "we\'ve pretty much done everything we can right now"and"we can\'t do the next generation of Gran Turismo on the PS2 right now. )....I\'m worried people...really worried !...Will we see the real-next-GT on PS2?....
What do you think?
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Yep..
I think he\'s waiting for Preformance Analyser 2..
Remember what diffrance it made with GT1??
Compare Ridge Racer 2 to GT1.. hmmm :)
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The PS3 isn\'t coming out until 2005 at the earliest...I don\'t think he\'ll wait 4 years to release another GT.
New tricks will be learned and the PS2 will begin to see it\'s limits...but I don\'t think we\'re to that point yet.
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Remember GT2000??
He said they\'d release it with PS2.. But they changed their mind.
I think the same thing will happen here.. GTN will become GT4.
When better looking games come out (Stuntman, Getaway ect) Yamauchi-san want to polish his product to make it the best one possible..
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the games will just get better and better i mean compare teken 1 to tekken 3 for example.....it will take them a bit of time to get used to to all the hardware etc
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Does anyone know who develops the performance analyser or when the next one will be coming out? :cool:
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Originally posted by Kenny-73
Does anyone know who develops the performance analyser or when the next one will be coming out? :cool:
Im not sure..
But I think Sony and Toshiba develops the PA2..
PA2 will be avalible early 2002 I think..
(Note: Im not 100% sure.. So dont take them as facts!)
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I\'m sure PlayStation 2 has more tricks up it\'s sleeve:D
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ajoh432, I agree with you. PS2 can do more, other developers can do it. GT3 could have more graphics but I think the time frame in finishing the game was the problem. :D
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Originally posted by Ginko
The PS3 isn\'t coming out until 2005 at the earliest...I don\'t think he\'ll wait 4 years to release another GT.
New tricks will be learned and the PS2 will begin to see it\'s limits...but I don\'t think we\'re to that point yet.
I was referring to the Next Step,the real Next GT...and not to another GT...and from the interview,at first, it wasn\'t so clear what Kazunori meant :)
However I think we\'ll see "GTN" in 2002(a killer-up to push the on-line gaming) and "GT4"(the next step) in 2004-2005...only my opinion....let\'s wait and see.....
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What I understand is that he is saying he is taking a vacation cause right now he has done his best work, he is happy with his final work and he is not thinking in the next gen GT. I think he meant: "Come on!! Leave me alone!!!, GT3 is just 2 months old and you already want a new one? Enjoy what I just gave you and let me rest so I can think of more things to add in the next GT";)
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
I have just finished reading an interview that pstow has posted on the GT3 forum.
He states that he has done all he can on the PS2 hardware...
This gets me kinda concerned. Is he stating that GT3 (graphically) is the best he can do???
It is only a 2nd gen game, and I think that the PS2 must be capable of doing more then what he has portrade.
I also get the feeling from reading the interview that GTN or GT ONLINE will not be graphically superiour to GT3. That is a real worry.
Hmm, i think that guy was just blabing out of his Azz, he meant that "he" can not do anything at this point... i\'m sure given time they will make the GT line of games better. even on a PS2. ;)
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I will be very dissapointed if GT3 is the best that we will see (graphically) on the PS2...
Otherwise I am headed for X-Box land until PS3 is out...
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I doubt GT3 is the best the PS2 can do. However, I\'m not expectiing big leaps in graphically quality either. Yamauchi probably just pushed the system as far as he can at this point. And while they can change and improve a thing or two here and there, GT3 graphics is still the best, and other games will have a hard time beating it. However, while we probably won\'t have a leap in quality of graphics afterwards for a while, I expect some games to look just as good, or even better then GT3 in the games of the next generation or so on the PS2 (not PS3 yet).
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com\'on ppl... What else CAN he say?
GT3 is the PS2\'s flagship title. If they didn\'t do all they could with the PS2 (at the time) why release it? It would be an incomplete game. Any developer who states that they could have done more with their title is kinda screwing themselves. I mean, why say the game could be better when they didn\'t make it better?
IMO i think he meant that they\'ve done all they can at the present time. Things can only get better;)
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If he used his brain, he would say that he has even better things up his sleeve... For GT4
Start the anticipation already.
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IGN Boards
"Theres no way in hell that this, complicated, hard to program for, system is maxed out by ANY developer on their fisrt try............REGARDLESS of who that team is. "
WORD..
EGM
"It\'s obvious that Yamauchi\'s favorite element of GT3 isn\'t the actual racing gameplay or lush visuals-it\'s the religious attention to detail paid to each vehicle\'s road handling. In fact Yamauchi says that although it\'s possible for future iterations of the GT series to feature better graphics, he doubts they\'ll surpass the realism of GT3\'s physics model. "
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He don\'t want to make just an update. He wants to create a complete new experience, and not just more cars, better graphics and an online mode. And he said that the next generation of GT is sheduled to be released end of 2003, but we know what it means (GT2000 at launch? Of course...)
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I\'m not ready to believe that we\'ve seen the best of PS2 this early - but, GT3 is really good-looking, and other racer-games will have a hard time to beat it.
I ask you one question - are graphics so important to you that you\'ll move to X-box just because of them? To me, no. If GT3 has best graphics a racer-game can offer, I\'m very happy with it.
It is the soul of the game, not the looks, that matter.
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why bother trying to increase the graphical power...its practically photo realistic
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
why bother trying to increase the graphical power...its practically photo realistic
It could be photorealistic without all the jaggies and interlacing...
Have you played this game with an RGB cable...
YUCK.
Nice\'n sharp, but jaggies EVERYWHERE.
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I\'m impressed with the graphics of GT3, but yes, the graphics can be better. However, better graphics are not going to make me stand in line for the Xbox at launch either. Graphics are only one component that makes a great game. Gameplay, depth, and so on. So, if the PS2 games has the last two, with graphics just as good as GT3 (though I\'m confident, it can do better) thats just fine by me.
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:( What my other post should have killed this debate... :D
READ IT... :evil: :evil: :nerd: