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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: QuDDus on August 17, 2001, 01:43:13 AM
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Well this USA has been on a slump every since bush got into the white house...some ppl try and say it was always going to happen seems how the country was the same way when his dad was in office...
Well over 50,000 u.s blue and white collar jobs have been slashed and more is on the way.
I mean here in the motor city I mean the auto market took a huge hit. thousands lost jobs..and that caused more to lose jobs.
And SCEA just announced they will slashing a undisclosed amoun of U.S jobs because of 250million profit lost and slow sales of it\'s products(excluding ps2 they where talking about it\'s money makng products)They named then walkman, pc, stuff like that.
Ford motor corp announced another slash of 5000 white collar jobs.
Dell computer is too be cutting jobs because of slow us pc sales.
I mean you can\'t count how many companies have been slashes jobs..and this idiot in office is off some where vacationing.
THE BIG.COM crash happen soon as Bush took over. It just seems like this guy knows absolutely nothing.
I say your best bet is too leave the country for 4 years and come back during election time :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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*basks in the glory that is Australia*
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
*basks in the glory that is Australia*
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: MAYBE i\'ll move there til 2004
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Yeah, because the economy was great up until January. It\'s amazing how bad it\'s been since. Oh, wait a second, it was last year when the economy fell. Crap. There has to be a way we can blame Bush for that.
Oh, and have fun spending your refund check.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
Yeah, because the economy was great up until January. It\'s amazing how bad it\'s been since. Oh, wait a second, it was last year when the economy fell. Crap. There has to be a way we can blame Bush for that.
Oh, and have fun spending your refund check.
It was not as bad as it is now..companies were not losing as much profit. And breaking firing records like they are now...
And as for the refund check thing...I enjoyed the 300bucks but that still does not make up for all the crap..now 1200 maybe.
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The dot e-conomy was collapsing during the Clinton regime. And if you took even a half decent look at it, you\'d know that it wouldn\'t matter who was in the white house, the entire dotcom economy was fatally flawed in its very execution. The Economy as a whole is recessing. It\'s exploded in the last ten years, but the growth could not last forever. It\'s just a natural part of things. We\'re not in any huge trouble, in fact, we\'re doing better since Bush got in. Gas prices have dropped a large amount. And that rebate check was very welcome:)
Imagine if Al Gore were president... after all the restrictions and regulations he\'d put on the Petroleum industry, we\'d likely be paying over $2/Gallon of gas. (here it\'s about $1.25/G)
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Originally posted by Weltall
The dot e-conomy was collapsing during the Clinton regime. And if you took even a half decent look at it, you\'d know that it wouldn\'t matter who was in the white house, the entire dotcom economy was fatally flawed in its very execution. The Economy as a whole is recessing. It\'s exploded in the last ten years, but the growth could not last forever. It\'s just a natural part of things. We\'re not in any huge trouble, in fact, we\'re doing better since Bush got in. Gas prices have dropped a large amount. And that rebate check was very welcome:)
Imagine if Al Gore were president... after all the restrictions and regulations he\'d put on the Petroleum industry, we\'d likely be paying over $2/Gallon of gas. (here it\'s about $1.25/G)
Well every economi analyst has said this econmy is in a recession. There have been 20x the amount of layoffs since he got in office...and as for gas pricess well they are no were near where they where last year, but just what 2 or 3 month ago gas was sky high we where paying 2.20 a gallon over here...This gas pricess had to fall...IT had nothing to do with bush a lot of political ppl took action aganst the high gas pricess. If you don\'t recall he dodge the question of high gas pricesses every chance he got...so don\'t give him the credit for that a lot of news and media polititionspoliticians stood up aganist all these high gas prices so bush gets no credit on that.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Well every economi analyst has said this econmy is in a recession. There have been 20x the amount of layoffs since he got in office...and as for gas pricess well they are no were near where they where last year, but just what 2 or 3 month ago gas was sky high we where paying 2.20 a gallon over here...This gas pricess had to fall...IT had nothing to do with bush a lot of political ppl took action aganst the high gas pricess. If you don\'t recall he dodge the question of high gas pricesses every chance he got...so don\'t give him the credit for that a lot of news and media polititionspoliticians stood up aganist all these high gas prices so bush gets no credit on that.
Do you have any clue what you are talking about? You aren\'t even worth responding to.
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Originally posted by Weltall
The dot e-conomy was collapsing during the Clinton regime. And if you took even a half decent look at it, you\'d know that it wouldn\'t matter who was in the white house, the entire dotcom economy was fatally flawed in its very execution. The Economy as a whole is recessing. It\'s exploded in the last ten years, but the growth could not last forever. It\'s just a natural part of things. We\'re not in any huge trouble, in fact, we\'re doing better since Bush got in. Gas prices have dropped a large amount. And that rebate check was very welcome:)
Imagine if Al Gore were president... after all the restrictions and regulations he\'d put on the Petroleum industry, we\'d likely be paying over $2/Gallon of gas. (here it\'s about $1.25/G)
I think gas prices should be raised. It\'d inspire more efficient fuels to be created, and get more people aware of how fuel needs to be conserved. Well worth it in the long term, all that lowering it does is quiet SUV drivers of today.
The rebate check wasn\'t that great of a plan in my opinion; again, it makes people happy today, but in the long term there were better things they could have invested in.
Not that Bush is that bad, I just disagree with a few things he has done. People shouldn\'t blame him for the slower economy, there\'s many factors behind that.
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The economy isn\'t Bushes or Clintons fault, it is something that evolved over the last 4 years, the dot-com phenomena had a ceiling, and now it is coming down, only the companies with a sound business plan will survive,... I think it was as unavoidable as death in Texas. ;) VC were giving huge sums of money for stupid ideas, (no business plan) as long as you had a flashy dot-com name... :rolleyes:
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NEWSFLASH:
Who holds the presidency does not have a damn thing to do with gaining or losing a job. Does George Bush sign your paycheck?
The dotcom failure is due to too many entries in the market and their over-inflated stock values, something that the US government has no control over as we keep business and government separate entities; otherwise we would be communists.
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
NEWSFLASH:
Who holds the presidency does not have a damn thing to do with gaining or losing a job. Does George Bush sign your paycheck?
The dotcom failure is due to too many entries in the market and their over-inflated stock values, something that the US government has no control over as we keep business and government separate entities; otherwise we would be communists.
Nope, it has to be Bush\'s fault. Only rational way to explain it.
Sincerely,
QuDDus
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Originally posted by Videoholic
Nope, it has to be Bush\'s fault. Only rational way to explain it.
Sincerely,
QuDDus
OK...OK YOU don\'t have to nick pick at me because you are a bush supporter. That is very childish if you love the way he is running things fine...but is very childish to start nick picking.
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I\'m not a supporter. I\'m just not stupid.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
I\'m not a supporter. I\'m just not stupid.
I love that line. Expect me to steal it in many future console arguments. ;)
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Originally posted by M4
I love that line. Expect me to steal it in many future console arguments. ;)
Not a problem. Only if you atrib it to the ole Vid.
hehe:laughing:
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Haha! Thanks for the chuckle Vid! I really needed that.
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D\'oh, I thought this argument was going to be about how many great games were coming out, not about how QuDDuS has been embarrassed again!
QuDDuS, you have no clue what you are talking about. I can only pray people like don\'t vote so we get people in their respective slots who know what they are doing.
Bush has done a darn fine job for the crap that was handed to him. When he took over, the country was already in decline.
Bush has also recently opened up the Alaskan front to drilling, which works for me, as I have never been much of an enviromentalist. When OPEC starts producing less and less barrels, you will THANK Bush for having the balls to make presidential desicions and not listen to the pleas of a minority of people who love to create an entire state (and the biggest for that matter) as a protected land.
Eric Jacob
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guys, please at least stop calling it a "REfund" when in fact, its a "PREfund"
its based of next years tax returns
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Bush has also recently opened up the Alaskan front to drilling, which works for me, as I have never been much of an enviromentalist. When OPEC starts producing less and less barrels, you will THANK Bush for having the balls to make presidential desicions and not listen to the pleas of a minority of people who love to create an entire state (and the biggest for that matter) as a protected land.
I guess it comes down to this: which is more important; protecting wildlife or coming up with a temporary solution to the escalating fuel issue?
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
D\'oh, I thought this argument was going to be about how many great games were coming out, not about how QuDDuS has been embarrassed again!
QuDDuS, you have no clue what you are talking about. I can only pray people like don\'t vote so we get people in their respective slots who know what they are doing.
Bush has done a darn fine job for the crap that was handed to him. When he took over, the country was already in decline.
Bush has also recently opened up the Alaskan front to drilling, which works for me, as I have never been much of an enviromentalist. When OPEC starts producing less and less barrels, you will THANK Bush for having the balls to make presidential desicions and not listen to the pleas of a minority of people who love to create an entire state (and the biggest for that matter) as a protected land.
Eric Jacob
Why don\'t you shut up and stay in a sixteen year olds place. This is grown folks business here. You have no opinions. Any opinion you have is a fabricated opinion forced on you bye your parents. Second anyone can like or dislike anyone they want. I guess being sixteen you have not learned that everyone does not like and agree on the same things. You mind and everything you say is still based upon imature thoughts and readings.
So don\'t bother replying to this because your opinion won\'t matter.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Why don\'t you shut up and stay in a sixteen year olds place. This is grown folks business here. You have no opinions. Any opinion you have is a fabricated opinion forced on you bye your parents. Second anyone can like or dislike anyone they want. I guess being sixteen you have not learned that everyone does not like and agree on the same things. You mind and everything you say is still based upon imature thoughts and readings.
So don\'t bother replying to this because your opinion won\'t matter.
"With age comes wisdom, but knowledge is ageless"
I started following politics from the age of 10. I do agree with my parents a lot, even to this day, but I also heavily disagree on other matters (abortion, stem cells). Don\'t assume just because he\'s 17 he has no say, in fact, at least in VA, if you reach the age of 18 before november, you can register to vote beforehand. I registered and voted in the presidential primaries in feb 2000 when I was 17.
As the Florida Fiasco proved, there are a lot of people OVER 18 that should have no say in these matters.
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Originally posted by Weltall
"With age comes wisdom, but knowledge is ageless"
I started following politics from the age of 10. I do agree with my parents a lot, even to this day, but I also heavily disagree on other matters (abortion, stem cells). Don\'t assume just because he\'s 17 he has no say, in fact, at least in VA, if you reach the age of 18 before november, you can register to vote beforehand. I registered and voted in the presidential primaries in feb 2000 when I was 17.
As the Florida Fiasco proved, there are a lot of people OVER 18 that should have no say in these matters.
I agree. There are a lot of young folk who enjoy following what is going on in the world. What\'s the difference with a 17 year old knowing a bit about politics and a 17 year old knowing how a plant gets energy? It\'s just what he\'s interested in.
Quddus, you have been here quite a while. Why am I all of the sudden noticing your extreme lack of intelligence? Did you use to write intelligent stuff and then get into an accident or something?
Well maybe you are intelligent, but you just don\'t agree with me. Who knows...
I have always said the world would be a much better place if everyone agreed with me.
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I have always said the world would be a much better place if everyone agreed with me.
If everyone agreed with eachother, the world would not be a better place. Disagreements are how we better ourselves and progress, as far as I\'m concerned.
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poop
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QuDDuS, I am 17, buddy.
and it DOES scare me that people like you are allowed to vote, but more informed, more enthusiastic people like me are not allowed.
Maybe that is just my childish lack of wisdom though, geezer.
:rolleyes:
why don\'t you try replying to my ideas and not ***** all day.
Eric Jacob