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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: nO-One on August 18, 2001, 04:58:10 PM
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Hey.
I found >>this (http://www.latimes.com/business/la-000066885aug18.story?coll=la-headlines-business)<< link on Slashdot
quote from Slashdot
The LA Times is reporting that Microsoft is encouraging retailers to bundle Microsoft games with each XBox. "Beginning next month, many retailers will be requiring customers to pay from $499 to as much as $1,200 to reserve an Xbox console that, like it or not, will come bundled with games, peripherals and warranties. The reason: Microsoft will provide additional marketing money to merchants that agree to include the software giant\'s games in their bundles. That\'s because Microsoft\'s games carry higher profit margins for the Redmond, Wash., company than those published by third-party companies such as Activision Inc. and Electronic Arts Inc.""
cool huh :rolleyes:
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i dont wanna shell out 500$+ to preorder a system!!!!
if thats the price of the system they launch at, they WILL NOT DO WELL!!!
well sure they will couple it with games, but still what if they give you a game that you dont want??
thats really stupid... i dont think that will make people want to run out to buy the console if it is 500$+ including games.
but yet, i wonder why microsoft chose this ploy..
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This isn\'t the first time I\'ve ever this. Someone who works at EB actually told me that if I wanted to reserve the Xbox I\'d have to pay for games , etc. I personally think its stupid as hell.
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This is just for the total slagoffs who just NOW want to register the X-Box.
I am betting that the smart ones who did it months ago are still going to be able to get it for 300 bucks, with the requirement of nothing further.
Eric Jacob
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i reserved my ps2 for $10 at kb toys and got it two weeks after the release date.
not bad.
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Is it just me, or is Microsoft going downhill more and more every day? :rolleyes:
i reserved my ps2 for $10 at kb toys and got it two weeks after the release date.
Hehehe...;) That makes the Xbox thing sound really stupid...
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MS is doing everything right except for this... this is going to piss off a lot of potential buyers (or at least the pre-orderers).
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Oh not good.. Not good at all...
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Yo this just sucks:mad: :mad: :mad: I don\'t wanna pay all this to reserve a console. bUT what how much did those ps2 bundles cost in december, and november with 2 games. Weren\'t there $600 dollar ps2 bundles. Yep 2 games 2 dvd 2 controllers or a controller and memory card. True those were not preorders, but interms of bundles.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Yo this just sucks:mad: :mad: :mad: I don\'t wanna pay all this to reserve a console. bUT what how much did those ps2 bundles cost in december, and november with 2 games. Weren\'t there $600 dollar ps2 bundles. Yep 2 games 2 dvd 2 controllers or a controller and memory card.
Yep.. But the thing is Sony didnt force the stores to do that..
The stores did it by them-selves..
Sony didnt have anything to do with that. (they only provided games and machines..) ;)
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Originally posted by fastson
Yep.. But the thing is Sony didnt force the stores to do that..
The stores did it by them-selves..
Sony didnt have anything to do with that. (they only provided games and machines..) ;)
True you weren\'t force like ms is doing.. this pisses me off. Well I guess there not even trying to compete with gamecube. This is going to cause low system sales. And why are they forcing you to choose MS only games?
Man xbox has some really good software and this is not the way to start off selling a system. I hope they stop this because it would be a shame for xbox too not do good cause of this because it has really good games coming out for it.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
True you weren\'t force like ms is doing.. this pisses me off. Well I guess there not even trying to compete with gamecube. This is going to cause low system sales. And why are they forcing you to choose MS only games?
Well MS is loosing alot of money on the Xbox..
And they need people tp buy their first-party games to make a profit..
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Originally posted by fastson
Well MS is loosing alot of money on the Xbox..
And they need people tp buy their first-party games to make a profit..
Well I like a lot of the ms first party software but I don\'t think I should be forced to pick over good third party software. This is a bad business move. Because this shuts third parties out.
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Originally posted by QuDDus
Well I like a lot of the ms first party software but I don\'t think I should be forced to pick over good third party software. This is a bad business move. Because this shuts third parties out.
I agree..
I wonder how much this will affect the sales..
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ok if i was living in the USA and didn\'t have any Next gen Consoles
So not only would i be able to buy a PS2 , but i would also be able to get a NGC and games for both of them rather than a Xbox.......
Hmmmmmmmm
i know where my money would go.
to two Japanesse companies thats who.
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Hold on... if this is only for pre-ordering, can\'t people wait until launch to buy one?? Not everyone\'s going to pre-order. Or does every X-Box come bundled... :eek:
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I think you people like to skim over explanatory posts (mine above) and go on thinking the same ole BS.
If people are waiting this long to preorder a system, they should be expected to buy required stuff.
And Sony didn\'t make the stores require game bundles, but the stores made the bundles because Sony screwed them out of Systems, games, controllers, etc. PS2 was just a BAD launch.
Eric Jacob
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Not good for Xbox.:D :p
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Yup this is the end of Microsoft as we know it! *scoffs*
I would trip if this was the mandatory "set" launch package, but it is not. The set package is a stand alone system with a controller and it only costs $299. The bundle was opted there as an initiative to the already increasing demand of the system. I got my preorder for $299 and nothing has changed yet. If you are late, well too bad....your lost. Wait for the next shipment!
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I don\'t know why everyone is freaking out. The first party line up is great. Surely people will be able to find what they want in it.
I was planning on spending around 600 at launch anyway~
I will get Project Gotham, DoA3, and Halo. Then my accessory will be the remote. Then I will get Amped, SSX Tricky, Jet Grind Radio Future, Nightcaster, and Azurik shorty after...
And it is probably just a launch thing as they are expecting massive sales into and through launch. And they only have around 800,000 to go around. I bet they will all be picked up on Nov. 8
Kudos to the early, early adopters...
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
I think you people like to skim over explanatory posts (mine above) and go on thinking the same ole BS.
If people are waiting this long to preorder a system, they should be expected to buy required stuff.
Eric Jacob
PLEASE stop talking, god your annoying, all your doing is assuming stuff, I for one dont really care what you think
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Read the link jack.
This is all assumption.
You are annoying because you believe everything you read, as long as it adversely affects the company you hate.
Bravo, bozco, you have truly shown what it is to be ignorant. You are a shining example of this forum.
Eric Jacob
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LOL I totally agree with you AB.....
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I am betting that the smart ones who did it months ago are still going to be able to get it for 300 bucks, with the requirement of nothing further.
Ah... but I remember awhile back that a lot of stores canceled pre-orderes and stopped taking them with the stores in my area (San Francisco, so don\'t say I live in the boonies or anything) being among them. If your store did not halt the pre-order and will still honor the console only package despite what MS is "ordering" their retailers to do, then damn, you got it made. Unfortunately for me, after attempting to reserve it at least 15 times in the past 3 months, I have hit nothing but dead ends with both MS and Nintendo at various KB, Toys\'R\'Us, and EB outlets. It\'s frustrating to hear this regardless, especially since no store would honor any pre-order of mine in the first place.
Fortunately, bundles don\'t bother me as much as they do much of you. I think this is a ploy by MS to "one-up" Sony as a matter of fact. I remember Sony\'s software-system sales at launch were rather poor thanks in part to the fact that the system tripled as a PSX and a DVD player as well as the PS2 gaming system itself. MS more then likely wants to show that its games can sell even when the system doubles as a DVD player. Then again, there is yet another factor that you all need to consider before jumping the gun here and it goes as follows:
Systems are manufactured and sold at a LOSS in order to be priced competitively. If the manufacturer doesn\'t make any money, you can bet the farm the retailer doesn\'t make squat. So, how do you make money? By selling games. What if you don\'t sell any games but lots of systems? You lose lots of money. How will MS turn a losing situation (a\'la Sony) into a winning one? By selling systems with games. It\'s a sure bet that even with these bundles, every system, regardless of price, will be sold launch day. Why complain? You think your, generally speaking, little puny voice has any say in how MS will conduct its sales or if MS will sells its systems? It will sell out at launch, why even bother arguing the point?
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You guys are dumbasses ifyou believe that MS is forcing retailers to do this. Retailers don\'t have to do this, but the ones that do get special incentives from Microsoft such as marketing dollars and promotional materials. Microsoft is not FORCING developers, they\'re ENCOURAGING them to do so. Those who accept will be given benefits and those who don\'t won\'t get those benefits. No big deal.
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Microsoft is charging more $$$ for one reason alone: greed. Everything M$ does is for money and if it ain\'t for money it\'s more money. That is all they are about. Not security, not quality, and certainly not customer support.
My PS2 went out on me and it took 2 trips over 2 months to get it back fixed to me. But...Sony eventually took care of it. Will Microsoft fix your X-box if it breaks? Do you think you\'ll get free tech support with it? Do you think you\'ll get anything free?
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I don\'t care about a bundle! I plan on getting 3-4 games at launch anyway.....a formality at best!
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Microsoft won\'t fix the Xbox if it breaks. Xbox is basically an Nvidia console marketed by Microsoft.
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
Microsoft is charging more $$$ for one reason alone: greed. Everything M$ does is for money and if it ain\'t for money it\'s more money. That is all they are about. Not security, not quality, and certainly not customer support.
My PS2 went out on me and it took 2 trips over 2 months to get it back fixed to me. But...Sony eventually took care of it. Will Microsoft fix your X-box if it breaks? Do you think you\'ll get free tech support with it? Do you think you\'ll get anything free?
The only things certain in life are the following:
1) Taxes
2) Death
3) M$ trying to rip you off. ;)
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wow, those last three posts reek of ignorance.
I am amazed, well not of AM, he spouts dumb crap like this all the time, but with EmpRob, too.
NEWSFLASH PEOPLE - Sony is in it for the money, too! So is Sega!
Nintendo! MS!!
but of course, only MS is evil.
RYU - my preorder is still being honored by Babbages for my original preorder, which was system, remote, extra controller, and 2 games. It is a package deal, THEY set up half a year ago, without M$ :rolleyes: influence.
You guys are too funny sometimes.
Eric Jacob
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lol AB.......
Ah yes! Microsoft is really greedy. They just want money!
I mean, Sega, Nintendo, and Sony all donate their money to charity with every profit they make! Ah yes! Microsoft is bad because they are in the business to turn a profit and make money! Real bad!
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incentives for packing bundles and making the console more expensive at launch
Some of the XBox lads here lost touch with reality.
yes the PS2 had bundle deals at launch, but that was seperate from Sony. Sony didn\'t offer incentives that would have enticed more retailers into bundle deals and making the overall price of owning the system higher then alot could or wanted to afford.
MS shouldn\'t do this IMO, but hell its MS.