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Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Jar O Pickles on August 27, 2001, 07:18:48 PM
due to the argument that an amd 1.4 ghz proccesser in faster that a pentium 4 2.0 ghz proccesser i will leave it up to u guys took pick out my computer
its going to be a gateway computer
here are the specs on the amd:
Processor
 AMD Athlon™ 1400MHz Processor with New Performance Enhancing Cache Memory
   
  Floppy Drive
 3.5" 1.44MB diskette drive
   
  Keyboard
 Multi-function Keyboard
   
  Case
 Gateway Micro-Tower Case
   
  Expansion Slots
 3 PCI and 1 4X AGP
   
  Modem
 56K PCI Modem
   
  Option Packages
 CV Package: 64MB DDR NVIDIA™ GeForce3 AGP Graphics with TV-Out, SoundBlaster Live! and 10/100 Ethernet Card ........[ +US$425.00]
   
  Speaker Option
 CL/CV ONLY: Boston Acoustics BA735 Digital Speakers w/Subwoofer ........[ +US$40.00]
   
  Memory
 128MB 133MHz SDRAM expandable to 512MB  
   
  Hard Drive
 20GB Ultra ATA hard drive  
   
  CD-ROM or DVD
 16x/10x/40x Recordable/ ReWriteable CDRW ........[ +US$50.00]
   
  Monitor
 VX720 17" Mitsubishi Diamondtron™ Color Monitor (16.0" viewable) ........[ +US$80.00]
   
  Mouse
 Logitech PS/2 Wheel Mouse and Gateway mouse pad  
   
  Operating System
 Microsoft® Windows® Millennium Edition with Windows® XP Home Upgrade Coupon ........[ +US$15.00]
   
  Application Software
 Microsoft® Works Suite 2001 - Including Microsoft® Word and Encarta  
   
  Scanner
 Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 5300Cse Scanner ........[ +US$149.00]
   
  Internet Service Provider
 1 Year America Online Internet Access  
   
  Limited Warranty Program
 3 Years Limited Warranty, 1 Year On-Site Service, Limited Hardware & Software Tech Support as long as you own your system  
   
 
   
   
   *Prices quoted in U.S. dollars
   and exclude applicable taxes. Sub Total:  $1858.00
 
 
 
here are the specs on the p4
Processor
 Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 2.0GHz
   
  Floppy Drive
 3.5" 1.44MB diskette drive
   
  Keyboard
 Multi-function Keyboard
   
  Case
 Gateway Mid-Tower Case
   
  Expansion Slots
 5 PCI and 1 AGP
   
  Controller
 Integrated Ultra ATA Controller
   
  Modem
 56K PCI Voice Modem
   
  Option Packages
 XL Package: 64MB DDR NVIDIA™ GeForce3 AGP Graphics with TV-Out, SoundBlaster Live!, IEEE 1394 Card and 10/100 Ethernet Card ........[ +US$275.00]
   
  Speaker Option
 Boston Acoustics BA735 Digital Speakers w/Subwoofer  
   
  Memory
 128MB RDRAM PC800 (expandable to 512MB)  
   
  Hard Drive
 20GB Ultra ATA hard drive ........[ -US$125.00]
   
  CD-ROM or DVD
 16x/10x/40x Recordable/ ReWriteable CDRW ........[ -US$70.00]
   
  Monitor
 VX720 17" Mitsubishi Diamondtron™ Color Monitor (16.0" viewable)  
   
  Mouse
 Logitech PS/2 Wheel Mouse and Gateway mouse pad  
   
  Operating System
 Microsoft® Windows® Millennium Edition with Windows® XP Home Upgrade Coupon ........[ +US$15.00]
   
  Application Software
 Microsoft® Works Suite 2001 - Including Microsoft® Word and Encarta  
   
  Scanner
 Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 5300Cse Scanner ........[ +US$149.00]
   
  Internet Service Provider
 1 Year America Online Internet Access  
   
  Limited Warranty Program
 3 Years Limited Warranty, 1 Year On-Site Service, Limited Hardware & Software Tech Support as long as you own your system  
   
 
   
   
   *Prices quoted in U.S. dollars
   and exclude applicable taxes. Sub Total:  $2243.00


vote away ill be purchacing this computer on wed.
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Luke on August 27, 2001, 11:57:27 PM
i think that sense you are now "the happy man of money" you should not buy yourself a computer, but instead put your hard earned dollars to good use and buy me one instead.


thank you


yours truly,
Luke
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: jp6666 on August 28, 2001, 05:54:41 AM
id say uy the amd !! works fine here ! probebly cost less too ! :D
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: EmperorRob on August 28, 2001, 06:20:36 AM
Pentium 4 is too expensive right now.  Bump your memory up to 256 and make it DDR!  Also go Win2k instead of ME b/c ME is microwaved DOS crap!
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: nO-One on August 28, 2001, 06:36:50 AM
I say AMD, since they just countered the 2.0Ghz chip by lowering the price of the Athlons.

But I am also an AMD whore.
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: datamage on August 28, 2001, 07:15:47 AM
I\'m also gonna say AMD. Intel keeps pumping out their chips with little improvements. Notice how AMD hasn\'t even tried to match them because they feel they don\'t have to. You\'ll get more bang for your buck with the AMD.. and same some bucks in the process.

/ dm /
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Toxical on August 28, 2001, 07:56:27 AM
Well after looking at some comparisions i think an AMD
CPU in your next computer is a better choice,... you save
and the performance is about the same... ;)
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Falcon4 on August 28, 2001, 09:10:57 AM
i think pentium4 2 ghz because then you can be the first on the block to have a 2 ghz processor.
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: THX on August 28, 2001, 12:30:33 PM
If you can afford it, go for the P4 2Ghz.  You won\'t have to upgrade for a looong time (wait a min, this is the computer industry we\'re talking about here).  If you want to be thrifty and want power, then the AMD will do you fine.

And if you are ambitious and not afraid to try new things, ditch the Gateway and make the computer yourself.  You will learn A LOT of helpful things in the computer world & won\'t be on the phone as much trying to get in contact with tech support.

Bits and pieces I have probs with:

- What kind of power supply does Gateway budle with their towers?  Is it an off the shelf no-name?  This is one of the probs with getting a pre-setup system.

- If you can afford the fastest processors, I\'d go for at least a 19" monitor.  Mitsubishi is a good company, but Samsung and Sony seem to be the best performers for the same dough.  Look for a monitor that can display 1600x1200 @ 75Hz, .24dp or less.

- As stated before, forget WinME and go with Win2k if you can.

- More more more RAM. :)

- Screw the AOL.  AOL sucks plain and simple.  Invest in cable or DSL (if you can of course).  If you must get dial-up go with Earthlink, a local company, or someone else that doesn\'t have customized browers.

- Getting a pre-made computer also means getting useless software that you ultimately pay for.  Expect to find your HD littered with things you\'ll never click on.  Also how fast is the ata HD?  33, 66, 100?  I\'m guessing it runs at 7200 rpms...

- Nvidia GF3 graphics card?  That\'s too fast.  Go with an ATI 128 or Monster 3D 8mb.  Or even try an integrated vid card that\'s already conveniently in your motherboard.

Hmmmm, where\'s the BS comment?
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: datamage on August 28, 2001, 01:07:39 PM
Quote
- Nvidia GF3 graphics card? That\'s too fast. Go with an ATI 128 or Monster 3D 8mb. Or even try an integrated vid card that\'s already conveniently in your motherboard.

Hmmmm, where\'s the BS comment?


Right above that question.

A Monster 3D. lol. :laughing: good one.

/ dm /
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Jar O Pickles on August 28, 2001, 07:58:07 PM
well the poll is 50\\50 so far im still leaning towards the pentium but i am gonna upgrade to the 19" monitor i agree the aol thing is garbage and i will not be using it as far as price goes the amd base price is cheaper but comes with a lot less standard features so i have to upgrade a lot and the prices end up being pretty close
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Ryu on August 28, 2001, 10:34:37 PM
GF3, 1.4 amd is equivelant to 2.0 p4, upgrade ram, and get a bigger monitor.  Why NOT go for the amd?

I voted for the amd.
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Samwise on August 29, 2001, 05:41:46 AM
AMD all the way man. :)
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Jar O Pickles on August 30, 2001, 08:04:28 PM
well the poll is at 8:7 for the amd
after talking to sales rep from gateway i went with the pentium(sorry guys)
i figured its like coke or pepsi, chevy or ford
im a pentium guy
so here are the specs for my new comp to be arriving by sept. 6

2.0 ghz pentium 4
256 mb pc800 rdram
19" monitor(18" viewable)
64mb geforce 3 gpu
soundblaster live soundcard
20x/40x cdrom and 16x/10x/40x recordable/rewriteable
hewlett packard 5300 scanjet scanner
it comes equiped with windows ME but i can upgrade to XP for 15 dollars
so have got a pretty bada$$ comp on its way now all i need is cable modem or dsl or t1 line and i could rule the world

ALL HAIL EMPEROR KLOBBERSAURUS
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Luke on August 30, 2001, 08:37:27 PM
so, as i stated before, now that you are indeed "The Happy Man Of Money", hows about buying ol\' Lukey Luke a new car? Eh?
Title: Which Computer Should I Buy?
Post by: Samwise on August 31, 2001, 09:41:36 AM
Nooooooooooooooooooo, you\'ve been sucked into the hype.

Well congrats anyway. ;)