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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Gman2 on August 31, 2001, 05:13:00 AM
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I have played most of the previous versions of R.E. and I have always kind of liked the series.
Then while playing CV the other night after about 2 hours of walking back and forth and back and forth and getting lost, and walking over here and pushing a button, and walking over there and pushing some more buttons, and walking around looking for more buttons, and then sometimes shooting something I started to think..............WTF is the point here????
I was playing for 2 hours just moving this polygon person around looking for $hit and puching buttons. Its was friggin BORING.
Then I\'m thinking, I should get the walkthrough so I could find stuff faster, then I\'m thinking WHY??? So I can do the same $hit over and over???
I just came on here a few days ago praising RE, now I am taking that back. I think it is a played out series that need MORE action and LESS repeditive walking around clueless.
I think when this series first came out it was new and fresh. Now it\'s like listning to a new Areosmith song or something.
I don\'t know, maybe I\'m just geting old.
BTW I STILL stand by my praise of the DMC demo!
G.
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:laughing: Yeah it happens. I found Resident Evil: CV cool. Although I know what you mean about it not having much originality from its prequels. I didn\'t get stuck or lost or frustrated though (only at one bit where I eventually figured it out).
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Yes, you are getting old !!! :D
No, just a joke... look at it like it is... a Game, have some fun, enjoy the grafix and admosphere and that´s it !
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I know that. And Capcom knows that too.I think they want to make the games longer with that. I think the DC version of C.V started development before RE 3, so it has that old shool RE1+2 gameplay (Though they could have thought of a change before).
I just hope the next one will be more different and fresh.
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Originally posted by macabre
I know that. And Capcom knows that too.I think they want to make the games longer with that. I think the DC version of C.V started development before RE 3, so it has that old shool RE1+2 gameplay (Though they could have thought of a change before).
I just hope the next one will be more different and fresh.
I would love the RE titles if the controls were more MGS2 or DMC like.
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Yeah. In fact, infomation about RE:CV came out before RE3 (and was supposed to be released before RE3, apparently got delayed until after RE3) which is why it has its old school RE gameplay.
As for RE:CV, I like it. Its a great game. However, I\'m finding it really annoying with all the back tracking. Next could be a "spoiler" but I\'m just mentioning the places I\'ve visited (and revisited) in the game. First, do everything possible in the Prison, then go to the mansion, go down to the airport, to the training ground, go back to the mansion, THEN go back to the prision to get ONE thing, go back to the mansion, opps, forgot something? Go back to the prison...starting to piss me off (but I still like the game).
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The thing is, Capcom is in a bad situation now. Yes, they see the mainstream demand for Resident Evil to be changed. They see people saying, "change the control", " less backtracking", "more shooting" and other various things. However, if they do any of this, they are changing the forumla that made the series so popular from the start. Yes, they can change these things. If they do though, they risk upsetting a large fanbase (I know I would be upset) and reviewers tearing it apart for not being like classic Resident Evil, because Resident Evil still gathers excellent reviews from most places.
Resident Evil 3 for the most part, did go the more action way. There was still quite abit of backtracking but it did have more action. It also had random puzzles, random items and random enemies. Was Resident Evil 3 any good? Depends on which group of players you are in. The \'hardcore\' RE fans, like me, detested the game. Then there was others who was amazed and loved it.
Maybe, Capcom can make two series of Resident Evil? A constantly serious / backtracking/ classic RE and then one more action based. Sort of like they did with Street Fighter and Marvel Vs Capcom.
By the way - Devil May Cry was originally going to be Resident Evil 4 and then it took on a life of its own and they changed some stuff and it became Devil May Cry. So, it is very possible Capcom is looking towards a more action based Resident Evil installment.
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i must agree with gman2 because i cant stand the RE style of gaming anymore...i got sick of it when i first played dino crisis...i was like,,oh no...here we go again..push this button...walk around..move this item...open this door...push another button...bla bla bla....its boring already....
but i agree with lic also because IF they change RE, then a lot of its fans would be pist....so capcoms got a tough one here...
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must agree with gman2 because i cant stand the RE style of gaming anymore...i got sick of it when i first played dino crisis...i was like,,oh no...here we go again..push this button...walk around..move this item...open this door...push another button...bla bla bla....its boring already....
*cough* how many have you gone through? ;) (inside joke to you outsiders)
/ dm /
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Originally posted by datamage
*cough* how many have you gone through? ;) (inside joke to you outsiders)
/ dm /
i was waiting for that one......but it doesnt change my opinion about how boring this type of gameplay is....and this extends to non-RE games as well.....( i remember you deleting your Soul Reaver saved game because you got tired of pushing blocks. )
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The Resident Evil series still sells by the truckloads though and they also keep getting rave reviews, so why should Capcom change? Unlike Edios\' franchise Tomb Raider, which keeps getting worst and worst, Capcom for the most part keeps getting great reviews and selling mass amounts of each game.
Yes, there is plenty of people yelling to Capcom to make it more action than puzzles. Capcom realized this when Dino Crisis didn\'t sell that well, so they changed the gameplay in Dino Crisis 2 to more action and I imagine they will keep that in Dino Crisis 3.
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CV for the DC was a peice of **** in my opinion, that games got so boring that I almost killed myself.
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Hmm,. I guess I\'m in the minority but I loved CV on the DC. Sure, the first REs were scarier and more fresh, but CV\'s puzzles made more sense (somewhat) and the storyline was the best out of the three (IMO.) I still like RE2 best.
/ dm /
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
CV for the DC was a peice of **** in my opinion, that games got so boring that I almost killed myself.
May someone smack you silly now? ;)
Code Veronica received rave reviews and held by most DC owners as one of the greatest DC titles.
As for the people saying the game is old and what not. Yes, it is old. Its a port of a year old game. Dreamcast owners have been playing a better version of this game since March of last year. The texures was better on the DC, the lighting and everything, in my opinion.
In the end, if you like the previous Resident Evil\'s, you\'ll like Code Veronica. If you\'ve grown tired of Resident Evil, then you won\'t enjoy Code Veronica and I doubt you\'ll enjoy Silent Hill 2 also or Alone in the Dark : New Nightmare. The survival horror genre has always been about action and puzzles elements mixing together.
If you want more action, then go to the Dino Crisis series, Onimusha or even the up-and-coming Devil May Cry, which doesn\'t focus that much on puzzles. Though, from what I have read Devil May Cry also has its share of puzzles, so I wonder if people are going to complain about that also?
:rolleyes:
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I\'m starting to hate Code Veronica too..... Cause I can never get anywhere in the beginning..... Those zombies are suddenly faster than I last remember..... Also I noticed the gun doesn\'t auto-aim for some freakin reason....
See here\'s how it goes in Veronica:
First I meet that Steve dude..... and get a gun.... with I think 30 bullets....(keeping in mind about 5-8 bullets per zombie) I go into the first room up on that deck looking thing..... I kill all zombies... After seeing how fast the zombies were.... then I left that room.... went into another.... 5 zombies surrounding me...... Whoops.... outta bullets.... DEAD.... So I can\'t get anywhere....
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ajoh432 if you think that part is hard then don\'t even bother to play rest cause it get\'s 10 times harder later on.
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Originally posted by TheOgodlyThing
ajoh432 if you think that part is hard then don\'t even bother to play rest cause it get\'s 10 times harder later on.
Good idea!:D I only bought the game for the demo anyway *shrugs*..... I\'m loaded with cash and I had to spend some!:laughing:
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I\'m starting to hate Code Veronica too..... Cause I can never get anywhere in the beginning..... Those zombies are suddenly faster than I last remember..... Also I noticed the gun doesn\'t auto-aim for some freakin reason....
See here\'s how it goes in Veronica:
First I meet that Steve dude..... and get a gun.... with I think 30 bullets....(keeping in mind about 5-8 bullets per zombie) I go into the first room up on that deck looking thing..... I kill all zombies... After seeing how fast the zombies were.... then I left that room.... went into another.... 5 zombies surrounding me...... Whoops.... outta bullets.... DEAD.... So I can\'t get anywhere....
Welcome to the world of "survival horror". You are wasting bullets, Ajoh. You don\'t shoot every zombie, I\'m sorry. Infact, you dodge most of them or kill them with your knife, if you must have them dead. If you want to kill them with your knife, you need to equip it, aim towards the ground and wait for the zombie to come towards you. Once he starts to lunge, you swipe his legs. This will take some practice, but once you get it down you\'ll be able to take the zombies down without a problem and without wasting your bullets.
Also, anytime you get a better gun in Code Veronica it is usually a good idea to conserve it for bigger enemies than zombies. Same with health sprays, don\'t use them. Use herbs and not single herbs. Mix the herbs and when you\'re on danger you should then use them. By the end of the game, you should have enough for an army.
Conserve your ammo and health. It is survival horror.
ajoh432 if you think that part is hard then don\'t even bother to play rest cause it get\'s 10 times harder later on.
Actually, I think after the first "boss" the game is pretty much straight forward and simple.
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well, my argument is that the RE style puzzles such as: "push a lever and go back to a previous room and push another lever that opens the door in the 5th floor" is pretty damn boring already....i like puzzles like the 7th guest and such...there are lots of puzzles that can be put into a survival horror game that dont involve you running around from room to room pushing levers or placing stones and shields in sockets....and i just wish capcom and the other companies that make these type of games would be a bit more creative and come up with some more innovative puzzles instead of the same old thing with better graphics....
(i was sad to hear that alone in the dark 4 was this way....cause damn i wanted that game....)
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Welcome to the world of "survival horror". You are wasting bullets, Ajoh. You don\'t shoot every zombie, I\'m sorry. Infact, you dodge most of them or kill them with your knife, if you must have them dead. If you want to kill them with your knife, you need to equip it, aim towards the ground and wait for the zombie to come towards you. Once he starts to lunge, you swipe his legs. This will take some practice, but once you get it down you\'ll be able to take the zombies down without a problem and without wasting your bullets.
Also, anytime you get a better gun in Code Veronica it is usually a good idea to conserve it for bigger enemies than zombies. Same with health sprays, don\'t use them. Use herbs and not single herbs. Mix the herbs and when you\'re on danger you should then use them. By the end of the game, you should have enough for an army.
Conserve your ammo and health. It is survival horror.
Actually, I think after the first "boss" the game is pretty much straight forward and simple.
Oh ok.... So swipe the legs! I see.... Right when they lunge at you? OK.. I\'ll try it tomorrow.... To late to play it now.... Also... Can\'t you go into FP View mode.... I read that in the manual somewhere?:confused:
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Originally posted by ajoh432
Oh ok.... So swipe the legs! I see.... Right when they lunge at you? OK.. I\'ll try it tomorrow.... To late to play it now.... Also... Can\'t you go into FP View mode.... I read that in the manual somewhere?:confused:
The First Person mode is in "Battle Mode" a mini-game you get for beating the actual game.
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I love the RE series. Even though as of late it does seem to be running a little low. But the idea for CV was very good. The people at Capcom have a great storyline. I haven\'t played CV, but I have played the others.
is CVX the same as CV, but on Psx 2? I can\'t wait until RE0 and RE 4 come out.
:):):)
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Originally posted by Night Sage
I love the RE series. Even though as of late it does seem to be running a little low. But the idea for CV was very good. The people at Capcom have a great storyline. I haven\'t played CV, but I have played the others.
is CVX the same as CV, but on Psx 2? I can\'t wait until RE0 and RE 4 come out.
:):):)
It has 10 mintues extra footage that the DC version does not have, so if you have never played CV and love RE then you should pick it up.
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Originally posted by ajoh432
I\'m starting to hate Code Veronica too..... Cause I can never get anywhere in the beginning..... Those zombies are suddenly faster than I last remember..... Also I noticed the gun doesn\'t auto-aim for some freakin reason....
See here\'s how it goes in Veronica:
First I meet that Steve dude..... and get a gun.... with I think 30 bullets....(keeping in mind about 5-8 bullets per zombie) I go into the first room up on that deck looking thing..... I kill all zombies... After seeing how fast the zombies were.... then I left that room.... went into another.... 5 zombies surrounding me...... Whoops.... outta bullets.... DEAD.... So I can\'t get anywhere....
Don`t kill all of them , just shoot one or two to free your way and RUN FOR YOUR LIFE !
Or you could play hardcore style and use the knife :D
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Yup, don\'t kill all of them. I made the mistake of shooting every zombie I\'ve seen. The problem here is...
A: I\'m running low on ammo which is better spent on tougher enemies.
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B: Two annoying places. The one at the graveyard and the one just out side that area (where the double doors are to the path towards the mansion and the rest of the prison). Here, the zombies keep respawning. In essenes, wasting tons of ammo on zombies that will just keep coming back.
RE:CVX is one of the few RE games (if not, the only) that I\'ve played where the knife isn\'t a complete POS. Especially useful to aviod completely running out of ammo.
While big changes to the series might hurt the core of the game, little things like dodge and stuff (that was in RE3) could ultimately add to the game. Now, for RE3, maybe less action would be in place for the more hardcore RE fans, but otherwords, IMO, good game with the gameplay changes. That dodge button would certainly have been useful in RE:CVX though. And less backtracking would\'ve been nice too.
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Ok I met Steve the second time now..... I put that eagle thing in the machine..... Now what....? I\'m currently running around in Danger with no sprays or herbs...... I think I should restart this game from the beginning.... Cause I wasted my time in a lot of places.. and used up herbs....I think I have to do something with that fire extinguisher but I don\'t know what..... I\'ve been saving ammo though... which is good!:D
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Resident Evil rule, if it doesn\'t dissappear, you probably need it later. This holds true with the extinguiser (however, its not needed in the area I\'ve been to so far so, don\'t worry about it right away (keep it in the magic item boxes for now). The part I\'m currently stuck at, I\'ve got crystal bug from the room above Alexia and her bros room. I might have to load from an earlier save game for me anyways though since I didn\'t realize when you give that prison gaurd guy that medicine, you lose the lighter. Which I discovered later, in one room of the mansion, there is a fire place with plently of logs to burn. No lighter, no light. :(
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(keep it in the magic item boxes for now).
yeah where are those.... I haven\'t seen one in C:VX weird.... perhaps I\'m just not looking hard enough?
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Originally posted by ajoh432
yeah where are those.... I haven\'t seen one in C:VX weird.... perhaps I\'m just not looking hard enough?
You\'ll find your first storage box, by making it to the first mansion. Go up the stairs and then to your right up a few steps into a door, where a typerwriter and storage box is at . There is also a room that requires two golden lugers.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
You\'ll find your first storage box, by making it to the first mansion. Go up the stairs and then to your right up a few steps into a door, where a typerwriter and storage box is at . There is also a room that requires two golden lugers.
:laughing:Perhaps I should get to that point first.:D
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hmm... still waiting on this game...
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As someone mentioned earlier, CONSERVE YOUR WEAPONS!! I screwed myself. I was near the end of Disc 1 when I saw this huge ugly looking mother ****er! Wow! Only 6 bullits left, hmmm maybe I can beat this beast N0! Dead, So long, RIP. Excellent game but ya gotta build your arsenal, and health pickups for way later in the game.
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Originally posted by Zolar
As someone mentioned earlier, CONSERVE YOUR WEAPONS!! I screwed myself. I was near the end of Disc 1 when I saw this huge ugly looking mother ****er! Wow! Only 6 bullits left, hmmm maybe I can beat this beast N0! Dead, So long, RIP. Excellent game but ya gotta build your arsenal, and health pickups for way later in the game.
His name would be Tyrant. I remember on the DC, I got to him and then I had used most my gernade rounds on the gulp worm , hunters and other things. I also used the BOW GUN POWDER, so all I had was my handgun. I had to start all over...
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Lets take a mathematical approach to the issue.
more shooting + less puzzles + changing the controles=
(drumroll please)
Resident Evil Gun Survivor!!!
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Well, obviously, not all changes are for the better. ;)
RE: Gun Survivor, originally was a guncon game, then changed to a crappy FPS game for the US. The problem, from what I gather (I myself haven\'t played it so, I can\'t really comment from my own experiance) about Gun Survivor from reviews I have read, too easy and short. I mean, if RE: GS was done like Sega\'s House of the Dead 2, different story. Though hardcore, original RE fans might not like it (again, not all changes are good). Still, a little gameplay change won\'t hurt (drastic like RE:GS...yes).
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Personally, I\'ve got a mixed bag of feelings about Resident Evil and RE:CV in particular. It\'s a great game, don\'t get me wrong, but the series is just starting to get worn out. That wouldn\'t be a problem in itself, but the storyline has just gotten sillier and more over the top with each installment. This isn\'t a good thing IMO in a game that\'s supposed to be deadly serious.
The whole Code Veronica storyline is lame IMO. I liked Umbrella more when it was an ambiguous monolithic corperation. Now that I know the roots behind them.. it\'s hard to draw up that air of mystery and suspence that the first 2 games had. Wesker\'s return is a prime example of this. Ok, I can understand William Berkin surving the "Hostile Takeover". He was still alive when he injected the G-Virus into his heart. But Wesker was IMPALED by the tyrant. I\'m not talking some little pinhole impailment.. he was nearly torn in half! To believe that some outside corperation was able to sneak into the mansion facility before it exploded, grab his corpse, and then revive him after that much damage had been done is just too predictable and corney.
But I do still play the series because I like the gameplay. Hard to believe, but I actually like how the controls are setup and how the game progresses. If anything, the Zombies annoy me because they get in the way of the puzzlesolving/item hunting. I\'m an old school adventure fanatic, so the static - prerendered backgrounds, monotinous item gathering, and frustrating puzzles are a boon to me. I take a certain satisfaction in knowing that so many people enjoy a game who\'s heart an soul lies within what many people consider a "dead genre". Heh, they even had to make a new genre for it (Survival Horror) because to link it with "Adventure" is a no-no these days. Those games that are labeled "Adventure" are nothing of the sort. Really, just how many similaritys are there between Soul Reaver and Monkey Island?? Not too damm many.
So I say, keep RE the way it\'s always been as far as gameplay is concerned. I may just be one gamer, but that\'s my take on the situation.
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:rolleyes:
Well, obviously, this thread is slowly turning into BS. Either we should instantly get back on topic, or...this thread would have to be closed.
Which speaking of on-topic, well, got a little furture in RE:CVX (and man, that knife is good...though in the hallways of the mansion, stupid knife won\'t aim down right! :mad: kept hitting the wall instead of the zombie laying on the ground). Though had to stop at that time (back-to-school shopping).
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Originally posted by Lord of Darkness
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I haven\'t played C:VX in a while.... I think I\'ll wait till I buy a GameShark:p :D
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RE: C:V is one of the best DC games, ever...
I can\'t believe you guys are having so much trouble...
Low ammo, stuck on puzzles, lost, etc....
If you\'re having this much trouble at the beginning, I pity you when you finally make it to Disk 2, thats if you ever make it past that bad-a$$ Tyrant.
That fight is such genius on Capcom\'s part.
If you\'re finding the game that hard with the amount of ammo provided, don\'t even bother attempting a certain mini-game if and when you beat it...:laughing:
But seriously, if you\'re having that much trouble, I can help you out. Its been a long time since I\'ve played but I\'ve managed to beat all 4 RE\'s with plenty of ammo leftover. I\'ve also managed to beat C: V w/o saving and under a certain time to unlock the special weapons. :D
Here\'s some tips for you...
1) Use the Bow Gun and the Arrows on zombies. They may be weak but you get plenty of them, they fire fast, and there\'s no need to reload.
2) Use the dual pistols against Bandersnatches. Shoot twice, run to it\'s left, then shoot again, and repeat.
3) Don\'t worry about losing your lighter. You don\'t need it as Claire.
4) Never use your Bow Gun Powder until facing Tyrant on the plane.
5) Don\'t bother fighting the Glup Worm the first time around. It\'s easy to avoid.
6) Do not make the same mistake I did the first time I played. SAVE THAT FIRE EXTINGUISHER!!! Although I didn\'t need it to beat the game, it still helps.
This is only for the first disk. If you need help on the second disk, let me know.
By the way, whatever happened to the DC version of C: VX?
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As far as I know, RE:CVX for the DC never made it to the states. IN Japan, its availble, but not here.
BTW, the PS2 version, its all on one DVD. No 2 disc here. Still need to save after Clarie\'s game before continuing to Chris\' game though. ;)
BTW, I haven\'t finished the game yet. I know the above...from other people who played RE:CVX.
And, for the most part, I\'m not having any problems with the game...now. The reason I had problems before was, well, zombies actually respawn in this game (well, in a few places) and spent too much ammo (especially the big ones) on these stupid guys. Unlike previous RE, ammo is really scarse in this game. I mean, previous REs, had an easy mode to work with, get the feel, know where each baddie is, then a harder less ammo mode would be availble to try out etc. Not RE:CVX where there is one mode, and one mode period.
And another thing. Previous REs, the knife for the most part, is a complete POS for these zombies. Going by that mantality, wasted tons of ammo for zombies I didn\'t have to for RE:CVX where the knife is actually a useful weapon.
Also, a "better" suggestion for killing zombies, :p, instead of the bow gun for the zombies, the knife. Knife them at the legs right before they are about to bite you, they fall, and keep slashing them until they die. Saves TONS of ammo.
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Yes, as useful as the knife is (Better get in the practice now cause you will need it later when you complete the game and attempt a certain mini-game.) the Bow Gun is still better. Although you will be saving ammo, Bow Gun Bolts are plentiful and suck against anything else so why not use it against zombies?
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Maybe if you were a little more open to games you wouldn\'t have this problem dumbass!
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"I haven\'t played C:VX in a while.... I think I\'ll wait till I buy a GameShark"= ajoh432
Dude, you don\'t need a gameshark. Just use that fried up orb between your ears a little bit. A bit of strategic thinking goes a long way. Besides, GS will only help you with Time, Saves, Heath, and Ammo. You\'ll still have to solve the puzzles on your own, so if yer having problems with that then you\'d better off just buying a strategy guide or lookin up info about it on the net.
And for gods sakes, don\'t use the strategy guides as walkthrus. Maybe if you rented it and were having problems, but why waste 50+ bucks on a game and then just throw your money away by having someone ELSE basically beat it for you.
You will get pissed, you will get stuck, you will spend a lot of time playing, and you will be confused... but when you beat it.. at least you\'ll be satisfied with YOUR accomplishment.
(Quickly closes his desk drawer filled with Sierra game Hint Books and hopes noone noticed. :D )