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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Darth Joyda on September 12, 2001, 12:55:42 AM
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Fck it. Found this one. Off the net...
"In the City of Gold there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb, The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Nostradamus 1654
Don\'t know whether to believe it or not.
But Nostradamus had foretold the second world war and the rise of Hitler.
But I\'m still shocked by this.
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Now that I thought of it - the prediction is amazing in detail. And yes, nostradamus has made some serious mistakes. Remember, however, that these predictions are never accurate, and don\'t usually happen at the date they\'re been predicted to happen on.
Anyways, I\'m quite hard on to open for this matter. I see this was posted already on other thread - but we\'ll see what some of you think. At the point I\'m not willing to believe - I\'m just mesmerized of how accurate that is. Pure coinsidence? At the time, I think so.
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Hopefully there won\'t be a third big war :(
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Well, there\'s a United Nations this time around.. So, there probably won\'t be a third WORLD war..
How about a spiritual war? God? Satan? The 2nd coming of Christ? Hmmmm.... Makes you think. :surprised
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um... im not sure i would agree w/ u about a spiritual war... :rolleyes: though i am religious, but there are sickos in the middle east that are watching our world trade center burn down and they are cheering! if this crazy act of terrorism influences other countries that hate us, things could get ugly:confused:
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
"In the City of Gold there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb, The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
I\'m just mesmerized of how accurate that is. Pure coinsidence? At the time, I think so.
Accurate? What are you talking about? Just like everything else that bonehead wrote, this makes no sense whatsoever. Remember this is a translation, so don\'t get caught up in the "accuracy" of these exact words. To me it makes no sense. Who are the "two brothers?" First he calls it a "city of gold" and then a "big city." Which is it? To me that sounds like two different cities. This sh1te is so vague you could interpret it to match just about any event that comes along. I say... Up Nostradamus.
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Coredweller, it really isn\'t hard to see.
2 brothers - twin towers
big city - Washington DC
Fortress - Pentagon.
leader - Bush.
Although I don\'t beleive predicitions unless they come straight from the prophet\'s mouth.
Eric Jacob
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If your interpretation is correct, it still doesn\'t hold any water.
1. The "Big City" (washington) is not burning.
2. Our "Great Leader" (Bush) has not succumed as far as I can tell.
3. So our "Fortress" (pentagon) endures, so what? So do a lot of other fortresses. Prophesies that claim something DOESN\'T happen are just lame, I think.
4. I really find it hard to believe that Nostradamus was talking about two office buildings when he said "two brothers." He said the two brothers would be "torn apart" which brings to mind a completely different image from what happened to the towers. Brothers being "torn apart" is common imagery for crisis or strife in a family. One might even suggest a civil war or civil disturbances, but it doesn\'t sound like a description of two office buildings being destroyed. If he had said "two brothers killed by chaos" then maybe I could see it.
Nostradamus has been full of sh1te for almost 400 years.
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Here\'s some other predictions he made.
Century 6, Quatrain 97
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude,
Fire approaches the great new city [New York City lies between 40-45 degrees]
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up
When they want to have verification from the Normans [French].
hmmmmm
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Does anyone have any links to Nostradamus info.
I was going to post this topic myself
I believe that he perdictred this. About 10 years ago HBO had a documentary on Nostradamus and they translated Naustradamus\'s perdition to be a Nuclear attack on NYC, but knowing that when Nostradamus wrote these perdictions there where no Airplanes or Missles the translation could have easily been mis-interpreted.
I am very interested in reading exactly what has been written.
And the City of Gold IMO could easily be NYC and the World Trade Centers proximity to Wall Street
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This nostradamus guy always manages to give me the creeps :(
ddrayl, you can buy his book he wrote, I read some parts of it and I must say it gives me shivers thinking about the terrible events he had predicted, even the cover of the books freaks me out..:(
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Nos has been prvin wrong many times.
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you guys ever think that the terrorists just read that prediction and decided to carry it out?
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ddaryl, I remeber seeing this special on HBO long time ago and the host was a fat man. I believe 98% what Nostradamus said is true IMO. Its proven again in yesterday event. I remember the next thing that now should happen is the Nukes will follow that Nostradamus said. WTF!! the Nuke are COMING SOON!! RUN FOR YOUR LIFES!! It was nice Knowing all of you! :crying:
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.skybusiness.com%2Fdean%2Fboom.gif&hash=be7b1b9cc1f6c257dd1a04a7557da8b90fed318f)
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Originally posted by ps2gamer_59
you guys ever think that the terrorists just read that prediction and decided to carry it out?
Another possibility. But then again how will anyone ever really know for sure? That\'s why the whole thing is a tad eerie....
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Originally posted by pstwo
ddaryl, I remeber seeing this special on HBO long time ago and the host was a fat man. I believe 98% what Nostradamus said is true IMO. Its proven again in yesterday event. I remember the next thing that now should happen is the Nukes will follow that Nostradamus said. WTF!! the Nuke are COMING SOON!! RUN FOR YOUR LIFES!! It was nice Knowing all of you! :crying:
Ok....now you need to take a chill pill. Let\'s not get carried away. Don\'t even think about that sh**!!!! :eek: :eek: :(
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Originally posted by jetgrind
Nos has been prvin wrong many times.
He said the world was going to end sometime around 1999 september i think it was at the strike of midnight. That never happened....i am confident this wont. Even if it does, we will most likly have Russia and China along side our side so what kinda war would it be :laughing:
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Originally posted by ps2gamer_59
you guys ever think that the terrorists just read that prediction and decided to carry it out?
Very unlikly, but still good point made. Maybe the terrorists (which i will want to be drafted to kill) are trying to mess with our minds getting us worried about this and then sneek attack something else.
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Actually I believe the 2 airplane attacks was the perdiction and was mis interpreted to be a nuclear attack
I believe Nostradamus perdicted unrest between the WOrld and the Middle East, primarily the US and the Middle East which would heighten in the 90\'s (Gulf War) and be fought on and off through 2020
We would also suffer economic turn down as we are beginning to see now.
I thought there would be websited dedicated to Nostradmus\'s writings but I could find little. Nostradamus also visioned the 3rd Anti-Christ as a man with a Blue Turbin. The 1st 2 we\'re Napolian and then Hitler
He wrote about both
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What is going to happen with the economic?
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You know, Nostradamus isn\'t gonna get everything right. There not gonna even translate everything right.
This is what i believe. Our future isn\'t set in stone. We have CHANGED events so things that he has predicted hasn\'t happened, and things that have happened. but the timing was wrong, may have been changed by a certain event.
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Originally posted by bart8558
um... im not sure i would agree w/ u about a spiritual war... :rolleyes: though i am religious, but there are sickos in the middle east that are watching our world trade center burn down and they are cheering! if this crazy act of terrorism influences other countries that hate us, things could get ugly:confused:
finally you start to decide to post!!!!! good for you buddie!
and i think nos could be correct, but in revelations, it said that the war to end all wars would begin in israel, and it seems as so.
read through revelations and youll find it.
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Originally posted by square_marker
What is going to happen with the economic?
That\'s what is more scary than anything else. I guess that is why banks all over the world have donated money to the US because of all of this.
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Nostradamus should never be taken literally. The prophecies he made are like those in The Bible. Complex - and very easily misunderstood.
And yes, Nostradamus has made mistakes. Or we see those propechies in that light. But we also might not understand.
If nostradamus was a prophecist, he saw visions of the world today. He saw a vision of what happened last tuesday. Of course he didn\'t understand what he saw, and so he wrote them in the matter of those days.
Same goes with the bible and it\'s predictions. It was humans who wrote it, after all. Believe in the spiritual side or not, it was made by humans, trough the voice of God. The propechies there told were all visions - and as there was no technology then, the technology at that time was absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to describe.
[Anyways, believe it or not - this is one freaky akward prediction.]
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Same goes with the bible and it\'s predictions. It was humans who wrote it, after all. Believe in the spiritual side or not, it was made by humans, trough the voice of God. The propechies there told were all visions - and as there was no technology then, the technology at that time was absolutely IMPOSSIBLE to describe.
[Anyways, believe it or not - this is one freaky akward prediction.]
No it doenst actually, the book of Revelation (read it, it is a good read) was written by a man called John on some island of Greece.
He was given the visions of the end times, and wrote them all down for the bible. God gave John the vision to warn all those who WANT to listen about what WILL happen eventaully, whether it happens next week or next century, no one knows.
Because God intended the Bible to be accurate, he would not have allowed John to misinterprete things he had seen. The things that John seen and wrote down maybe to complex for us to understand AT PRESENT. Maybe next century, the book of Revelation will make total sense.
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Can anyone site an actual place for Nostradomas to find this passage. Guarantee you this is an internet prank.
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We must remember that Nostradamus always wrote in a complex language/structure so he wouldn\'t get killed and the like. And we must remember that at the time he lived they didn\'t have words for many of the things he saw... and finally, the translations can be off.
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We must also remember that sh!t happens and it doesn\'t mean that he or the bible predicted it. Maybe someone did predict it. Maybe some terrorist read it and took it to heart. Maybe, we have mis-interperted it, so that it fits our situation. There is a lot of "maybe\'s" in this situation.
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As I wrote before, this is a hoax.
http://skepdic.com/nostrada.html
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the recent translations being circullated are questionable, but Nostradamus did perdict that NYC would suffer a horror and he did vision 2 missles or planes.
How do I knwo this
in the mid 80\'s HBO did a documentary on Nostradamus, and one of the few things I remember is the attack on NYC.
If HBO can put up a documentary of Nastradamus\'s visions in the 80\'s and talk of 2 missles that would strike NYC at about this time its a little more then coincidence to me. The images of that documentary are burned in my brain, and the similiarities to what has happened and what the documentary said would happen are eerie
Unfortunaltely I haven\'t seen the documentary in 15 or so years, and everything Nostradamus on the net is unaccesible, but I do believe with very little doubt he saw this vision
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Originally posted by ddaryl
the recent translations being circullated are questionable, but Nostradamus did perdict that NYC would suffer a horror and he did vision 2 missles or planes.
How do I knwo this
in the mid 80\'s HBO did a documentary on Nostradamus, and one of the few things I remember is the attack on NYC.
If HBO can put up a documentary of Nastradamus\'s visions in the 80\'s and talk of 2 missles that would strike NYC at about this time its a little more then coincidence to me. The images of that documentary are burned in my brain, and the similiarities to what has happened and what the documentary said would happen are eerie
Unfortunaltely I haven\'t seen the documentary in 15 or so years, and everything Nostradamus on the net is unaccesible, but I do believe with very little doubt he saw this vision
Freaky stuff..
Did they say what would happen after the NYC bombings?
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Originally posted by Videoholic
As I wrote before, this is a hoax.
http://skepdic.com/nostrada.html
thats what i thought.
some frined of mine said that nostradamus said that "2 metal birds will crash into the city and begin the flames.."
and right then i knew that it was false.
and i wouldnt be suprised if the other one was false either, which it is.
im just happy cuz it isnt the end of the world and i can grow up and fly airplanes.
im going to join the airforce after i get my degree in college, and ill be an officer right off the bat.
pretty cool? i think flying a f-22 or a JSF (joint strike fighter) would be cool.
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I predict a huge fire in the city of wind...
Now, I have 500 years for this to come true. Give me a break.
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
"In the City of Gold there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb, The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"
Nostradamus 1654
This quote is "dated" 1654.
Nostradamus DIED in 1566...
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Originally posted by Videoholic
I predict a huge fire in the city of wind...
Now, I have 500 years for this to come true. Give me a break.
:laughing: no, on the Nostradamus program he did predict that it will happen on NYC. On the program they show missiles flying over form the midle east and hit NYC buildings. What Soulgrind said "The sky will burn at forty-five degrees latitude,
Fire approaches the great new city [New York City lies between 40-45 degrees] This is what Nostradamus said. Have you seen Nostradamus documentary?
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Originally posted by Peacemaker
This quote is "dated" 1654.
Nostradamus DIED in 1566...
:laughing:
It\'s his first post and he proved something wrong already.
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Originally posted by ViVi
:laughing:
It\'s his first post and he proved something wrong already.
Of course, he\'s the peacemaker.
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Does anyone have any links to Nostradamus info.
I was going to post this topic myself
I believe that he perdictred this. About 10 years ago HBO had a documentary on Nostradamus and they translated Naustradamus\'s perdition to be a Nuclear attack on NYC, but knowing that when Nostradamus wrote these perdictions there where no Airplanes or Missles the translation could have easily been mis-interpreted.
I am very interested in reading exactly what has been written.
And the City of Gold IMO could easily be NYC and the World Trade Centers proximity to Wall Street
Ddaryl...try Northernlight.com & type his name as the search (thank GOD you can spell correctly, his name is a finger-full to type).
Anyway, one quick search offered this: (A: Books: "Nostradamus Life and Literature", 1961/ "Nostradamus and his Prophesies" 1982, 823 pages by Edgar Leoni, Bell Publishing "Nostradamus" by Eberhard Fuchs: 1982 Moewig Verlag/Bogan 107 pages. "Visions and prophesies", Time-Life 1989. Damon Wilson: Nostradamus and other Prophets" 1999. A.T. Mann," Millennium Prophecies". Element Books, Rockport MA, 1992 )
Good luck.
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I just ordered a book on nostradamus
some may not believe he did perdict this, but from my own experience with that HBO documentary and recent events my curiosity has peaked to the point where I just need to read what was said
and Liek I said the HBO documentary used en-actments to show what "MIGHT" hapopen as they translated what Nostradamus had said. This en actment was of 2 missles hitting NYC. They we\'re nuclear which to me is all in the translation, and in the effort of entertainment and our Nuclear fear it was the easies form of translation
What I saw on TV Tuesday resembled so closely to what I remember seeing 15 or so years ago
I really can not get over the parrallels. Wehter true or not I\'m interested in reading more
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k, i still stick my my thoughts that the terrorists just saw these predictions and acted them out. The operation was run so smoothly that they must have been planning it for years. Plus if they really wanted to do damage to america they could have done what was suggested by another member on this site and taken out 4 of americas nuculear power plants. But they chose to attempt to take out americas pride and not totally destroy america
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We don\'t need no fortune teller to know what will happen next:
1) a couple terrorists will die,
2) Imperialism will continue
3) hypocrisy and propaganda shall expand
4) nations will still hate....
5) another terrorist will be born from the ashes of his/her parents.
6) another target will be destroyed by a terrorist.
Why will this go on? What is the root of this sickness,
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If you say: \'Terrorists read the predictment and acted it out\' and through that prove the predictment is false, you are the one whom has been mislead.
It happened after all - and the predictment promised it to happen. It doesn\'t matter how it happens, if it happens. It doesn\'t matter why it happens, if it happens.
And I have heard similar stories what ddaryl told. Many on other messageboards have claimed to have seen an HBO document about Nostradamus on late 80\'s, 90\'s, and remember a predictment telling about NYC and 2 bombs.
There is many possibilities of what will happen ( and it still might go wrong - as the predicments are never ACCURATE ):
1) 3rd great war
2) The reign of an antichrist
3) avoiding of war ( but this only pushes it further )
Of course you don\'t have to believe ANY of that sh1t. But it is terribly freaky, IMO... and NOT a hoax, I\'m afraid!