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Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: ##RaCeR## on September 15, 2001, 03:59:04 AM
I was trying to find some shots of some games that may feature them. Are there any from MGS2?

Will they actually remove them from the game?

Wouldnt that be worse? I mean, then there actually gone...
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: ooseven on September 15, 2001, 04:36:46 AM
A large secetion of Flight Sim games have the WTC Towers in them, no dout that will be changed ( either changed  when in development or fixed by the way of patches Microsoft Flight Sim Fly III for example thats just due for release in the UK might be even be delayed).

As for MGS2 we do not know if the WTC Towers where in the game or not, maybe this like so many other games could be used to raise money for a Aid for the Victums of this Terrible Day in out history.

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Also i was watching Friends on Channel 4 over here in the UK on Wednesday to try and get out of the shock and numbness but it did`\'t help.

in one cut sceen you get a Stock Shot of the WTC towers at night and seeing them there and knowing they where gone was one of the most chilling moments in my life.

So no Dout it\'s not only Games but TV Shows and even FILMS will be changed after the Horrific events of the 11th of Septemeber.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: THX on September 15, 2001, 11:47:04 AM
The Spiderman trailer has been pulled (if you\'ve seen it you know why.  Although this tragedy happened, it was still a very nice preview, I hope Columbia decides to include it on the DVD)
http://www.spiderman.sonypictures.com/

Arnold\'s new movie "Collateral Damage" has been delayed to at least next year (he plays a fireman fighting terrorists)
http://collateraldamage.warnerbros.com/

And Konami is thinking about whether or not to alter MGS2.
http://ps2.ign.com/news/38287.html

:(  f*cking terrorists
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: mm on September 15, 2001, 03:38:45 PM
its not the terrorists

its the OVERLY sensitive, litigous american society that i blame

cowards, they are
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: Tetrad on September 15, 2001, 05:40:55 PM
Why are they taking this horrible act and making it even worse by delaying MGS2???
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: ##RaCeR## on September 15, 2001, 06:44:58 PM
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Originally posted by mm
its not the terrorists

its the OVERLY sensitive, litigous american society that i blame

cowards, they are


Err, you sound pro Arab. I hope not man, I mean, that IS low.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: Bozco on September 15, 2001, 07:40:47 PM
the open flap on the Red Alert 2 game has them, it is a close up of them to, and I dont care if you ban me mm you sound pro arab, and I have to say **** you then, how the **** is it american\'s over sensitive society, ****ing terrorist kill 5000 people and were over sensitive, you have no heart
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: THE EYE on September 16, 2001, 04:55:11 AM
Whoa Whoa, guys... slow down a bit !!!
1. Try to read between the lines mm wrote... His thoughts where: If we let it come to a fact, that a terrorist attack can change a game and our way of life, then we´ve allready lost the war !
2. Stop talking this "pro arab" sh!t !!! They didn´t attack the US !!! It was a TERROR Act and you just can´t point at a country and say: Those are the bastards... maybe Afghanistan, but not all the Arabs !!! So please stop this !
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: STROKE on September 16, 2001, 05:00:19 AM
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Originally posted by THE EYE
Whoa Whoa, guys... slow down a bit !!!
1. Try to read between the lines mm wrote... His thoughts where: If we let it come to a fact, that a terrorist attack can change a game and our way of life, then we´ve allready lost the war !
2. Stop talking this "pro arab" sh!t !!! They didn´t attack the US !!! It was a TERROR Act and you just can´t point at a country and say: Those are the bastards... maybe Afghanistan, but not all the Arabs !!! So please stop this !


WORD!
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: Black Samurai on September 16, 2001, 07:13:39 AM
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Originally posted by mm
its not the terrorists

its the OVERLY sensitive, litigous american society that i blame

cowards, they are
For anyone that is confused mm\'s post was not a pro-arab statement. He was merely commenting on the fact that Americans are kind of sensitive to these kinds of things because we sue for anything we can think of. No developer wants to get sued by a victim\'s family member because of emotional distress due to seeing the WTC in the background of their game. With the US\'s sue-happy mindstate every lawyer in the country would be chomping at the bit to get a peice of a lawsuit like that.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: Bozco on September 16, 2001, 07:16:41 AM
then who the hell is mm calling cowards in his post
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: THE EYE on September 16, 2001, 08:59:36 AM
Maybe he too overreacts sometimes... calm down folks !
Title: Re: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: macabre on September 16, 2001, 12:23:09 PM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
I was trying to find some shots of some games that may feature them. Are there any from MGS2?

Will they actually remove them from the game?

Wouldnt that be worse? I mean, then there actually gone...


There is no WTC on this pic , but it`s somehow disturbing, someone posted it on the blackisle forums: http://gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2001/ps2/grandtheftauto3/gta3_0907_screen016.jpg
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: THE EYE on September 16, 2001, 01:46:25 PM
Let me quote mm: "OVERLY sensitive..."
Today we see a plane flying over NY... in one month or two, we just see a plane flying over NY... see what I mean ?!
It´s normal... we have to deal with this first... there will be Action Movies again and there will be Action Games again.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: jamma on September 17, 2001, 12:26:29 AM
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Originally posted by Bozco
then who the hell is mm calling cowards in his post

i guess he was referring to those who decide to delay the games/ movies. Sure it is a sign of respect. By playing into the terrorists hands by taking away our freedom. The more things we have to change about our lives the more they see their attack as successful.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: ##RaCeR## on September 17, 2001, 12:46:56 AM
He said it in a way which was completely misleading.

I think he may have lost my respect.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: Stupid Mop on September 17, 2001, 02:49:50 AM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##


Err, you sound pro Arab. I hope not man, I mean, that IS low.


I have Arab blood in me
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: THE EYE on September 17, 2001, 07:25:55 AM
##RaCeR## you are talking BIG BS !!!
How could he lose respect even IF he talks pro arab ???
Are you nuts ??? There was nothing missleading in his post... maybe you can´t read it right !
I don´t want to attack you, but cool down a bit...

STOP... If have to edit this...
We start a fight in here about what somebody said... we wouldn´t have started this discussion without the terrible attack of last week... right ?
So: If we fight OURSELF in here, then those terrorists did a great job... (Try to read it right !!!) THAT was it what mm´s post was about ! The courrage in us and to stand up against the fear and hate !!! Fight the terror in yourself and you will win !
Peace
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: videoholic on September 17, 2001, 10:39:21 AM
Are you people are just down right stupid?  He was talking about the letigious society that we live in makes people cower in the thoughts of being sued.  Nothing pro/anti arab.  Nothing to do with arab.  

It seemed plain as day to me.

Word.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: Black Samurai on September 17, 2001, 11:20:35 AM
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Originally posted by Videoholic
It seemed plain as day to me.
Me too.

BTW, We need MM to come set these kids straight?
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: Caspian on September 17, 2001, 11:45:36 AM
Im more instuted by the fact that Everyone seems to blame all arabs.  Shouldn\'t you be blaming O B Ladan? Is not that the person everyone is blaming? Why is it his race that is to blame? Next your going to tell me its his religion that is to blame?

Friends it is a single person and his followers that we face. Not any one race or religion. Does anyone elts realize this?

So please stop saying pro-arab. Thank you.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: videoholic on September 17, 2001, 02:25:40 PM
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Originally posted by Caspian
Im more instuted by the fact that Everyone seems to blame all arabs.  Shouldn\'t you be blaming O B Ladan? Is not that the person everyone is blaming? Why is it his race that is to blame? Next your going to tell me its his religion that is to blame?

Friends it is a single person and his followers that we face. Not any one race or religion. Does anyone elts realize this?

So please stop saying pro-arab. Thank you.


True dat.....


He really is only one person in a very large organization.  They have tons of small factions that he just heads up.  It would go on just fine without him.

This is going to be a long war.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: jamma on September 17, 2001, 10:06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Caspian
Next your going to tell me its his religion that is to blame?

Well it seems to be his Interpretation of his religion that is to blame. And the way he is spreading it.
Jihad - Holy War against America , yes this is religious.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: THE EYE on September 18, 2001, 12:31:59 AM
What are you talking about ??? The Bible ??? :rolleyes:
Both books can easily interpreted in a bad way...
It´s not about religion, it´s about some a$$holes that want´s us to obey them !!!
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: jamma on September 18, 2001, 12:57:43 AM
for those of you that dont know Osama Bin Laden has been on a Jihad for many years. This is a Holy War against the US and indeed most of the western world. This is part of his version of the Islamic faith. And this is what he is preaching. Basically he wants to destroy anything that promotes freedom and the Talebaln thinks much the same though not quite so extreme.
Those people flew there kamikaze flights for religious reasons.
Albeit it some radical translations of the normal religion.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: Caspian on September 18, 2001, 08:13:52 AM
Religous reasons, yes. But you can\'t blame the religion. Every person who believes in Islam are not to blame. And they do not want to destroy everything that promotes freedom. They see the bad in america. Pornography and Sex before marriage are two bigs ones that stick out in my head.

I do have a skin tone and features that might make people assume that I am from the middle east. The racial crimes that have been commited this past week agianst islamic believers and those of us who share similar physical traits scares me.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: JerginsSoft on September 18, 2001, 08:30:15 AM
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Whoa Whoa, guys... slow down a bit !!!
1. Try to read between the lines mm wrote... His thoughts where: If we let it come to a fact, that a terrorist attack can change a game and our way of life, then we´ve allready lost the war !
2. Stop talking this "pro arab" sh!t !!! They didn´t attack the US !!! It was a TERROR Act and you just can´t point at a country and say: Those are the bastards... maybe Afghanistan, but not all the Arabs !!! So please stop this !


I was going to say the same thin, man.

Anyway, altering these games is admitting defeat.  Let us not forget who we were before these attacks, and just meld it with who we are now.

Anyone who DOES alter a game because of this is just a coward, simply because they are admitting defeat, and letting it ride a wave over their heads.

Moving forward on a normal basis, while planning sickeningly brutal revenge is the best way to thwart these pieces of dog-sh it.
Title: Are there any screenshots of games that feature the WTC in them?
Post by: Lord of Darkness on September 18, 2001, 01:08:23 PM
Well religion is to blame for a lot of the worlds problems but IMO this was about him being a control freak and doing whatever he damn well pleased.