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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ddaryl on September 15, 2001, 01:27:41 PM

Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: ddaryl on September 15, 2001, 01:27:41 PM
for those who would like to bypass the the little infant bickering in the last thread




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Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: GAMES on September 15, 2001, 01:49:40 PM
I am really looking forward to this game.I think it looks great.
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Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: ajoh432 on September 15, 2001, 02:53:45 PM
I think this game will rule.... although it does seem too much like Crash Bandicoot.... Which bored me after a while. (That is - until Crash Team Racing came out.... Which I ruled at!:D)

So I might get this game - and I also might not.... Just depends if I have enough money by then.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: Black Samurai on September 15, 2001, 03:06:58 PM
This is one of the best looking platformers that I have seen this generation. I think this game is going to be a lot of fun. Can\'t wait to play it.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: lestat on September 15, 2001, 03:38:47 PM
this game looks amazing...i just saw the new movie and i loved it...the worlds you go through are fantastic and creative...this game looks really fun and graphically its quite stunning..specially since its running @ 60 fps.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: fastson on September 15, 2001, 04:05:19 PM
Ah.. Great.

The 1st platformer in a long time that Ive been looking forward to! :)
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: nO-One on September 15, 2001, 04:10:47 PM
The game looks great, and it\'s a must buy for me.

But I would add some water effects, and a little bump mapping would be nice aswell.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: Toxical on September 15, 2001, 04:36:56 PM
This games looks very good,
and if it plays as good as Klonoa
then it will surely be a great hit.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: rastalant on September 15, 2001, 05:34:12 PM
hey guys this game looks sweet!!!!:) :) :)
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: Falcon4 on September 15, 2001, 05:40:53 PM
although im not much of a platformer fan, i think i will like this game. it looks cool, and seemingly plays well.

i probably will get it.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: GAMES on September 15, 2001, 05:41:11 PM
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Originally posted by raslant
hey guys this game looks sweet!!!!:) :) :)


No it doesn\'t, it sucks!!......Just kidding :p
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: rastalant on September 15, 2001, 06:08:00 PM
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Originally posted by GAMES


No it doesn\'t, it sucks!!......Just kidding :p




:D :D :D :D :D
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: Terry Bogard on September 15, 2001, 07:09:39 PM
Well, as much as the other thread was ruined by PEOPLE against Jumpman, i gotta agree, the people flaming him were childish. I stick with what Jumpman said. Back on subject, this game looks awesome, and come december, we should be in for a real treat when this one comes out.  Whats the confirmed relaste date in Dec?
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: GAMES on September 15, 2001, 07:14:01 PM
The release date is Dec. 11th for all you people your don\'t know. :D
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: Watchdog on September 15, 2001, 07:37:10 PM
I read over the last thread and at the risk of becoming even less popular than I already am around here I kind of agree with Jumpman.

Blurry?  No, it doesn\'t look blurry.  It looks quite good graphically speaking.

But...

It looks like every 3d platformer I\'ve played in the past 4 years--with much nicer graphics.  Collecting coin-like things, those incredibly-fun-totally-not-frustrating-or-cheap-and-thoughtless-game-design jumping puzzles, and gameplay that looks like Crash meets Mario/Sonic.

It may be fun for a while, but there wasn\'t any innovation in the 30 second clip, what makes anyone think there\'ll be any anywhere else in the game?  This is supposed to be the next generation.

Why am I the only one who isn\'t sick of thoughtless, rehashes on my PS2?

Flame if you want, but I\'d prefer a discussion.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: rastalant on September 15, 2001, 08:00:40 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
I read over the last thread and at the risk of becoming even less popular than I already am around here I kind of agree with Jumpman.

Blurry?  No, it doesn\'t look blurry.  It looks quite good graphically speaking.

But...

It looks like every 3d platformer I\'ve played in the past 4 years--with much nicer graphics.  Collecting coin-like things, those incredibly-fun-totally-not-frustrating-or-cheap-and-thoughtless-game-design jumping puzzles, and gameplay that looks like Crash meets Mario/Sonic.

It may be fun for a while, but there wasn\'t any innovation in the 30 second clip, what makes anyone think there\'ll be any anywhere else in the game?  This is supposed to be the next generation.

Why am I the only one who isn\'t sick of thoughtless, rehashes on my PS2?

Flame if you want, but I\'d prefer a discussion.



See watchdog thats perfectly fine that you feel that way.  Thats good you can express your opinion.  Btw, you been making some good post lately.  ITs good to here from you again watchdog.:)
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: Darth Joyda on September 15, 2001, 08:54:23 PM
Slow and stupid you may call me, as the new trailer I have watched not!

But today I will do so.

These pictures here, good they look.

A platformer fan I am, so buy this game I will.

The force is strong in this one :)
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: teiresias on September 15, 2001, 08:56:53 PM
And, before "someone" complains about how the draw distance is "blurry" take the time to go to the following link (from the Smithsonian\'s education site) and read #4:

http://educate.si.edu/resources/lessons/art-to-zoo/landscape/essay2.html
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: GAMES on September 15, 2001, 08:59:12 PM
I always enjoy reading your post Darth Joyda :laughing: :laughing: .
Now go I must...hehe!
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: GAMES on September 15, 2001, 09:01:41 PM
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Originally posted by teiresias
And, before "someone" complains about how the draw distance is "blurry" take the time to go to the following link (from the Smithsonian\'s education site) and read #4:

http://educate.si.edu/resources/lessons/art-to-zoo/landscape/essay2.html


I remember someone posted the exact same thing in a Jak and Daxter thread awhile back, wasn\'t it you?
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: teiresias on September 15, 2001, 09:16:28 PM
Yes it was, just thought I\'d post it again since he used the same tired argument in the other thread that he helped to quickly turn into childish arguing.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: Bossieman on September 15, 2001, 10:36:22 PM
Is this a 60 hz game, any links?
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: Marquis De Sade on September 15, 2001, 11:41:19 PM
Can\'t wait for this one, too.  It has all the makings of a quality 3D platformer, regardless of whether it\'s original or not.

:)
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: BizioEE on September 15, 2001, 11:50:01 PM
I\'ve watched J&D on my TV(Game-Network) and I can guarantee that the pics and even the movies don\'t make it justice...this game is beautiful...I have never seen this kind of animations in a platform...J&D is a Must-Have for me !
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: BizioEE on September 16, 2001, 12:06:24 AM
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Originally posted by nO-One
The game looks great, and it\'s a must buy for me.

But I would add some water effects, and a little bump mapping would be nice aswell.


Naughty Dog are working on the Bump-mapping engine but I think they will implement it in their next game...some time ago ddaryl posted interesting News about it and other great effects via software that ND are implementing...J&D is only the beginning...can you imagine what kind of graphics will have the next ND\'s games ?  :)

ddaryl ?  May you post again the info about ND\'s engine ?
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: Psycomantis101 on September 16, 2001, 05:30:34 AM
This game looks like it will be worth a rent. i have always loved crash games and if this is anything like it i will buy it.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: fastson on September 16, 2001, 06:59:00 AM
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Originally posted by BizioEE


Naughty Dog are working on the Bump-mapping engine but I think they will implement it in their next game...some time ago ddaryl posted interesting News about it and other great effects via software that ND are implementing...J&D is only the beginning...can you imagine what kind of graphics will have the next ND\'s games ?  :)

ddaryl ?  May you post again the info about ND\'s engine ?


That sounds interesting..

:D
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: ddaryl on September 18, 2001, 08:36:21 PM
I\'m going to quote myself since its a request. I had to search down my old post but here it is

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but lets talk Naughty Dogs GOAL Engine (Game Oriented Assembly LISP...... Any idea what LISP stands for)

Jak and Daxter is running at 10 million polygons per second, which is considerably under what most people we\'re predicting.

According to Jason RUbin and Andy Gavin there PS2 GOAL engine actually includes time of day information and level of detail info into the those polygons which makes them quite a bit more complex then just textured polygons.

J+D\'s world has a realtime day to night cycle. The entire world act accordingly from DUsk till dawn. Village lights come on, sunset and sunrise hues etc....

On top of this we\'ve seen the J+D world and how large it is. Since an object in the background doesn\'t require the amount of polygons or the amount of texture detail as that same object needs when you get up close to it.

On top of this ND\'s GOAL engine is fully capable of realtime shadows and water effects both which are going to be added according to the interview.

Also the engine is capable of enviroment mapping and bump mapping. Bump mapping might not make it into the 1st J+D game because of time restraints and the fact that ND is satisified enough with the graphics engine as it is now. With the game coming out this Xmas ND is focusing on the gameplay.


All creatures and all objects in J+D follow there own physics characterisitics. As we\'ve seen in the J+D previews animals/creatures windmills, vehicles are all present, and all are supposed to behave uniquely (sp?). On top of that grass and trees sway in the breeze, windmills react accordingly etc...

AI in J+D is supposed to be pretty complex. According to Jason Rubin, walking around a level avoiding enemies can lead to having most of the enmies on that level following you relentlessly.

The animation system is already being boasted as one of the best in a videogame ever so add that to the capabilities of ND\'s engine and testament of what good dev\'s can do with the PS2\'s hardware

Then there\'s the whole scope of the game in general. A huge living world with 0 load times.
Title: The New Jak and Daxter thread
Post by: BizioEE on September 18, 2001, 11:05:20 PM
Thank you very much ddaryl ! :)