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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: nO-One on September 18, 2001, 12:03:39 PM

Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: nO-One on September 18, 2001, 12:03:39 PM
Well the title pretty much sums it up.

I need a laptop for school (it\'s a requirement) and I still haven\'t got one.

I can\'t spend too much money (since I\'m a poor collige student:() so my choices are

A normal PC laptop
If I get a brand name, like an IBM ThinkPad I probly won\'t be able to get one with acceptible specs (well it\'ll be more than enough, it\'s just me that\'s a tech freak)

Or I can get a no name laptop with pretty decent specs, but it\'s a no name lappy and quality may not be good. The battery life was also short.

Or I can sell my family and both my legs and get a PowerBook G4.
Or I can just get me an iBook.

I\'ve always liked Macs (even though most geeks don\'t for some reason) and I really want to get OS X. The problem might be compatability with the network in school, it\'s a NT network running some Novell thingie (I know my hardware, but I know next to nothing about networking). So I\'m not sure how compatable a Mac would be.

It\'ll be fine here at home, I can turn my Main rig off during the night and check out all the prOn on the internet in my bed, instead of sitting in that horrid monster I call a chair.

The iBook is a heck of alot more stylish than any PC out there (not counting the Vaio\'s) and I get them cheap.And the battery life is excellent. The 12,1" screen is acceptible only because it reaches 1024x768 (I won\'t touch a 12,1" screen otherwise, 800x600 is too low a resolution)

On the PC side, Ican get Gateway\'s,Fujitsu-Siemens and Mitacs cheap. (I got connections you know) I wish I could get a ThinkPad or Dell\'s cheap but :(

So people, if you read though all this ranting, what\'ya think. Should I get an iBook????

(I know LIC\'s answer already;) )
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: fastson on September 18, 2001, 12:06:22 PM
For schoolwork..

Buy a MAC! Much more stable..

Or you could have my sisters 386:laptop for free! ;)
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: nO-One on September 18, 2001, 12:13:47 PM
A Mac using OS 9,x won\'t be more stable.

The lack of Preemtive multi tasking coupled with the lack of Protective memory causes a heck of alot of insatbility.

See programs can basically take as much memory as they need, if I don\'t have alot of memory (say 128mb) and I have a few memory intensive programs running (photoshop, office and Explorer) and they take all the memory, they can start taking memory from each other, causing everything to go straight to hell, requiruring a reboot (and reboots are the devil)

But since I\'ll be using OS X, that won\'t be a problem, thanks to the wonders of UNIX.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: videoholic on September 18, 2001, 12:51:59 PM
I have a powerbook titanium G-4 and it locks up all the time.  It multitasks like crap compared to my PC.  If I didn\'t have to use this thing for work it would collect dust.  Only thing nice is the screen.

I bought an HP laptop last year and I have had no problems with it at all.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: nO-One on September 18, 2001, 02:22:04 PM
If your using MacOS 9,x the more memory the more stable.

When/if you upgrade to OS X you WILL see a BIG difference, especially if you go straight to OS X 10,1.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: videoholic on September 18, 2001, 03:36:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by nO-One
If your using MacOS 9,x the more memory the more stable.

When/if you upgrade to OS X you WILL see a BIG difference, especially if you go straight to OS X 10,1.


I have 512 Meg of mem and a 30 gig hard drive.

You think that should be enough?

I do have OS X as well, but I don\'t use it.  I have to use OS 9 to run my photo shop and stuff anyway.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: Living-In-Clip on September 18, 2001, 03:49:23 PM
OS X = Heaven sent.....

iBook =  I envy you.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: nO-One on September 18, 2001, 04:01:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Videoholic


I have 512 Meg of mem and a 30 gig hard drive.

You think that should be enough?

I do have OS X as well, but I don\'t use it.  I have to use OS 9 to run my photo shop and stuff anyway.


Yes, that\'s plenty O\'ram, if it\'s extremely unstable you might want to have the unit looked at.

And you can run Photoshop in Classic mode, the speed difference isn\'t that noticeable (or so I\'ve heard). But ofcourse PS is such a CPU intensive program that running it in classic mode isn\'t anywhere as good as using it is OS 9.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: videoholic on September 18, 2001, 04:40:43 PM
Yeah, and that\'s what I run the most.  Along with Final Cut Pro 2 which is OS9.  Is office 2001 OS X compatible?  I have it, but haven\'t messed with wether I have to run it in pseudo mode.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: nO-One on September 19, 2001, 06:07:21 AM
Office v.X hasn\'t been released yet, but soon.

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/office/10/office10_default.asp?navindex=s16

The OS is what I really want, I\'ve been dreaming about OS X for a long time now, and an iBook might just be the excuse I need.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: EmperorRob on September 19, 2001, 06:26:52 AM
I would go for the iBook if OS X is anything like UNIX.

It\'s sad that I am a C.N.A. but I don\'t remember if Macs are compatible with Novell.  I will look it up for you when I get home.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: nO-One on September 19, 2001, 11:16:55 AM
The whole OS is designed so the user never had to have contact with the UNIX underpinnings.

Here\'s a review of OS X\'s UNIX layer
http://www.macworld.com/2000/09/14/unix.html

There was a MUCH better review out there, but I can\'t seem to dig it up :(
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: ooseven on September 19, 2001, 11:22:38 AM
i likes the look of the Ibook, it could be ideal for me seeing that the only good think about the computers at Uni is that they all have a FAST connection to the NET.

Just think ON-ONE old Pal if you get a IBook you can look at Nude pictures of Me on the Move, rather than in your house like you normally do. :surprised ;)
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: nO-One on September 19, 2001, 11:30:58 AM
I already have a fast connection at home and a wireless network. But unil I get a lappy, I won\'t be able to look at nudies of you on the move. So I\'ll just have to settle with sitting infront of my monitor to look at nudies of you.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: ooseven on September 19, 2001, 11:37:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by nO-One
I already have a fast connection at home and a wireless network. But unil I get a lappy, I won\'t be able to look at nudies of you on the move. So I\'ll just have to settle with sitting infront of my monitor to look at nudies of you.


:laughing:
too True

but................

Seeing that you like me is a poor student, why not look at maybe a very cheap Second hand PC LAPPY ?

ok it might be a bit of a gamble but it still sounds tempting.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: nO-One on September 19, 2001, 11:41:34 AM
That\'s the problem.

I\'m a HUGE tech freak, and I need state of the art hardware, or I\'ll feel so inatequite (spelling?).

Everywhere I look I see these spoiled brats with pieces of hardware they can\'t understand or handle. I need to have something equal or better because I\'m a geek they are not. It\'s a matter of pride, a geek versus the cool people.

Ohh what a dilemma.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: ooseven on September 19, 2001, 11:48:39 AM
True there is always the balance between budget and top of the range.

this is indeed a intresting problem , as i too am thinking of getting a lappy in the not to distant future.

But this and other problems will have to wait till tomorrow.

you see i am going to the Pub.

it\'s been a stressful past few days and i feal its time to blow of some steem.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: EmperorRob on September 19, 2001, 07:23:18 PM
OK nO-One, I checked and Novell 4.11 supports Macintosh clients.  4.11 was out, I believe, before OS X.  I don\'t know what version of Novell your school is using but it should supports TCP, IPX, and Appletalk.  The only question should be if your school\'s got any servers you can log onto.
Title: So I\'m thinking about getting an iBook
Post by: nO-One on September 20, 2001, 08:28:47 AM
I\'ll look into it, but my gut feeling is that they are using outdated software, those admins over there have the "if ain\'t broke, don\'t fix it" view on stuff, so they probly haven\'t upgraded in years because the network works.

I mean, those comps over there are OUTDATED, the fastest ones they have are 333Mhz Celery\'s. And why??? Because they\'re cheap ass sons of b1tches.

Thanks for the info man, I\'ll look into it.