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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: QuDDus on September 21, 2001, 03:00:09 AM
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This was taken from the detroit news 9/19/01
And it struck me what china had the nerve to say. They said they will back the usa in stoping terrorism, but they said if the US goes into Afghanistan that they better have a set target and not kill innocent lives.
Innocent lives!!! WTC, Pentagon ring a bell. We all ready knows China hates us. And I say screw them.
And Pakistan who we would need to set up camp at to make our invansion said they would not join any U.S. attack on Afghanistan. And that US should think of innocent lives as well.
But the funny thing about Pakistan is the US has to pay Pakistan in order to be able to set up camp on their land. So Pakistan is really not even with us. They just want the money.
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That is actually quite scary comment.
I wonder what\'ll happen if truly America kills innocent lives - how will China react? Abandon America, join Afghanistan?
I see a World War III developing... Of course, it is just my sick and frightful imagination, wich is about always wrong. I can\'t know how China will react - nor what america will do - but I\'m still holding my breath, as the current situation could develop to better or worse... we haven\'t seen the direction yet.
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Could someone please point out the horrible thing they said? Because from where I\'m sitting it sounded quite reasonable - that China would back up USA in stopping terrorism and that the US should have a real target in Afganistan - and not just kill innocent people.
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Originally posted by Samwise
Could someone please point out the horrible thing they said? Because from where I\'m sitting it sounded quite reasonable - that China would back up USA in stopping terrorism and that the US should have a real target in Afganistan - and not just kill innocent people.
I agree with you Samwise.
When America starts killing innocent, they\'re no better than the terrorists.
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I dont see the problem either. Bush said that they are going after all terrorists, not innocent people
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I\'m with the last three guys. Right when I read Quddus\' comments I said, "Alright, so what?"
We aren\'t going to be giving Pakistan money to use their bases. We aren\'t using their bases. They have already said they will not take part in the war, but they will allow us intelligence and fly over.
No country wants innocent people to die. But it will happen. I figure we have a handicap right now of about 6500.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
I figure we have a handicap right now of about 6500.
I just said that to my dad last night.
innocent people already died. and people are leaving Afg. like crazy.
they know whats up and they want no part of it. good for them i say.
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i think this may develop into WW3 but it isnt a very big chance, mebbe 10-20%. i think that the us will have a "war on terrorism" for bout 5-7 years. and slowly but surely wipe out many global terrorism organization..
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I agree with what China said. Just because a few idiots from there killed a bunch of us doesn\'t mean we have the right to go there and kill all the people who had nothing to do with it. We should go and bring to justice all involved in the attack and no others.
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Originally posted by Tetrad
We should go and bring to justice all involved in the attack and no others.
I think the old cliche "easier said than done" applies nicely here.
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I think the old cliche "easier said than done" applies nicely here.
Well sure it is, but I think America is strong enough to do so besides I know innocent people will probably die, I was just saying that we shouldn\'t just condemn a whole people because of a few fanatics.
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my whole thing right now is innocent ppl are going to die. And since china hates america already what are they going to do rally agianst us?
And the fact that china has said nothing about Afghanistan saying they will not turn over bin laden and that they are preparing for a holy war. Umm thats encouraging more terrorist attacks and more innocent lives lost.
Afghanistan has proven to be all for terrorism. And that means they could give a crap about innocent american lives.
I am not trying to be cruel. It just seems like they are saying it\'s ok for us too lose innocent lives.
Lets face it china hates us, Iraq hates us,Pakistan hates us. I mean the fact that there are saying watch out for innocent lives. I mean we already know innocent will die. And they don\'t want us going in afghanistan killing up innocent. So what is stoping them from using this as a excuse to rally against us???
And seeing how nobody cares that afghanistan caters to terrorism and that causes innocent american lives, and they don\'t want to go in with us and stop it.
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China is a big country, with interests high and low, i wouldn\'t be upset over those words... i think they just cautioned against all out blood letting in fear of WWIII
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Originally posted by Tetrad
Well sure it is, but I think America is strong enough to do so besides I know innocent people will probably die, I was just saying that we shouldn\'t just condemn a whole people because of a few fanatics.
Well what is scary is that a lot of people in the middle east worship osama bin laden like another god, so its not just a few fanatics
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Could someone please point out the horrible thing they said? Because from where I\'m sitting it sounded quite reasonable - that China would back up USA in stopping terrorism and that the US should have a real target in Afganistan - and not just kill innocent people.
Y\'know what\'s so horrible about this?
Read carefully people...
IT\'S CHINA DEFENDING HUMAN RIGHTS!!
These are the same people that brutalize their innocents daily, that crush them with tanks, that murder baby girls because they are unwanted, hell, they even poisoned crayons exported to the US.
This is the pinnacle of hypocrasy. To me, this statement says that China is searching for trouble, or at best trying to look "not too cooperative" with the US.
You remember what Saddam Hussein said?
"America should act with wisdom and care."
Ummmm, douchebag? Maybe you should look in your own backyard before speaking out like that.
IF China actually cared about innocent lives, I would see nothing wrong with this statement. However, given China\'s track record in brutality and oppression, I will completely ignore their advice.
It is at best, loathesome to hear them speak of caution and innocent lives.
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Well what is scary is that a lot of people in the middle east worship osama bin laden like another god, so its not just a few fanatics
Ya a lot do but a lot also don\'t.
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Originally posted by JerginsSoft
Y\'know what\'s so horrible about this?
Read carefully people...
IT\'S CHINA DEFENDING HUMAN RIGHTS!!
These are the same people that brutalize their innocents daily, that crush them with tanks, that murder baby girls because they are unwanted, hell, they even poisoned crayons exported to the US.
This is the pinnacle of hypocrasy. To me, this statement says that China is searching for trouble, or at best trying to look "not too cooperative" with the US.
You remember what Saddam Hussein said?
"America should act with wisdom and care."
Ummmm, douchebag? Maybe you should look in your own backyard before speaking out like that.
IF China actually cared about innocent lives, I would see nothing wrong with this statement. However, given China\'s track record in brutality and oppression, I will completely ignore their advice.
It is at best, loathesome to hear them speak of caution and innocent lives.
Agreed these are the same ppl that kill there own kind for believing in god. And the whole thing about the comment is china hates america. And what are they saying is if we go in and do kill innocent which is going to happen what are they gone do attack us? That was my big thing but man you hit it on nail.
And the fact that they are not saying anything to afghanastand who is encouraging terrorism.
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Originally posted by Tetrad
Ya a lot do but a lot also don\'t.
yes thats true also, which is why its so damn hard to stop them, you cant bomb everyone because there will be innocents killed but if you just kill osama bin laden there will always be another to stand up in his place
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They didn\'t say a damn thing about attacking the US. Stop being so paranoid.
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Originally posted by JerginsSoft
Y\'know what\'s so horrible about this?
Read carefully people...
IT\'S CHINA DEFENDING HUMAN RIGHTS!!
These are the same people that brutalize their innocents daily, that crush them with tanks, that murder baby girls because they are unwanted, hell, they even poisoned crayons exported to the US.
This is the pinnacle of hypocrasy. To me, this statement says that China is searching for trouble, or at best trying to look "not too cooperative" with the US.
You remember what Saddam Hussein said?
"America should act with wisdom and care."
Ummmm, douchebag? Maybe you should look in your own backyard before speaking out like that.
IF China actually cared about innocent lives, I would see nothing wrong with this statement. However, given China\'s track record in brutality and oppression, I will completely ignore their advice.
It is at best, loathesome to hear them speak of caution and innocent lives.
China has kinda changed since then.. They aren\'t "Red China" no more.. Right? But who knows.. :confused: <------- confused? lol
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"Red" is a euphamism for Communist/Totalitarianist. So yes, they are very much Red China.
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Originally posted by serrano007
China has kinda changed since then.. They aren\'t "Red China" no more.. Right? But who knows.. :confused: <------- confused? lol
China is still Red china.
Originally posted by Samwise
They didn\'t say a damn thing about attacking the US. Stop being so paranoid.
LOL.. The only reason I am noid is china hates America. And they don\'t want to fight with us but they will tell us how we better do things. And they kill there own ppl. They are so against stoping terrorism but they have nothing to say to afghanastand.
I mean we are super power and they see us as ganging up on little old afghanastand. Who knows they could join forces with another one of our enimies and rally against us?
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I have to agree, there is nothing wrong with China\'s comment. I mean, it is stupid to go into Afganistan just for revenge.
They go in, get Osma, or whoever the hell did this, and then they leave.
Simple as that, I hope.
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
I have to agree, there is nothing wrong with China\'s comment. I mean, it is stupid to go into Afganistan just for revenge.
They go in, get Osma, or whoever the hell did this, and then they leave.
Simple as that, I hope.
You kill Osama and another Osama will appear within minutes. There are many many people that feel this way about the world.
You see the video of that area with the tanks going down the street and people beating each other up with sticks. People firing off AK-47s in the streets. Wow, wouldn\'t you like to visit that place?
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Originally posted by Videoholic
You kill Osama and another Osama will appear within minutes. There are many many people that feel this way about the world.
You see the video of that area with the tanks going down the street and people beating each other up with sticks. People firing off AK-47s in the streets. Wow, wouldn\'t you like to visit that place?
Hehehe, instead of war, I think there needs to be international unity on the subject. There needs to be tougher (and I mean tougher) laws against anyone who supports these terrible acts.
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Hehehe, instead of war, I think there needs to be international unity on the subject. There needs to be tougher (and I mean tougher) laws against anyone who supports these terrible acts.
That is pretty much what is happening. All of Afghans neighboring countries are closing borders and aiding the US. I think even the Taliban is a little surprised at how all the arab nations are siding with us. You have to feel sorry for the normal afghans.
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Yeah, but it has to be done, the sooner they discover how \'feral\' they all are (by that I mean uncivilized) the sooner we can get back to normal...
FBI and Australian Special Forces are supposedly joining together to increase intellegence in the region... Will that help though?