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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Megiddo on September 24, 2001, 12:03:59 PM
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Why you scream?..well, it\'s quite simple really.
It\'s american..case closed.
The Console Gaming industry IS owned by the Japanese and will ALWAYS be owned by the japanese..it\'s that simple.
Do you think japanese game developers want an american company to dicate the industry? hell no.
They know they own this business, and if an american console is 1, they fail, they lose billions of dollars and mind-share.
So you might as well forget about the xbox, it\'s a interim pest at best for the Playstation2.
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Always is a very long time.
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Exactly my point.
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It\'s not my point.
Things can change. Will it happen? Who knows.
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..... :rolleyes:
I thought we were all past these silly arguments. Just because the Xbox is an American console does not mean its going to fail. Great launch lineup, tons of developer support, and its being backed by a very powerful company.
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Agreed!
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Ditto. Some japs might not like it but XBOX is here to stay.
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Japs control the market..Nuff said.
I have no desire to start a big arguement over this....no need to..it will all be clear very soon.
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Ya Japs own the buisness but that can always change. I don\'t think X-Box will be the most succesful, but I wont deny, and nor should you, that it will be succesful. Its got enough Jap backing to make the console succesful ,especially in America, but even in Japan. I think a lot of Jap developers just want to make the best games they can and don\'t care which console the game will be on as long as it will sell, and if the games are their expect X-Box to sell. I still think PS2 will dominate because of its third party support and Sony backing, but expect there to be a fight.
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If the Xbox gets games that appeal to the Japanese gamers, then the Japanese gamers players will want it. The problem is, so far it lacks any compelling games for the Japanese market.
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:rolleyes:
Just because the industry is mostly controlled by Japanese companies now, that doesn\'t mean that an American console will fail. Afterall, before Nintendo, there was Atari. An American company that did very well. Things change. And it could change back, back to an American console maker dominating the charts again.
That doesn\'t mean I think the Xbox will succeed or dominate, but just because its American, does not mean it won\'t. Especially if Japanese developer jump on board.
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boy I must say
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I also find it hysterical that you say you don\'t want to argue but you posted this topic anyways.
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Originally posted by Megiddo
Why you scream?..well, it\'s quite simple really.
It\'s american..case closed.
The Console Gaming industry IS owned by the Japanese and will ALWAYS be owned by the japanese..it\'s that simple.
Do you think japanese game developers want an american company to dicate the industry? hell no.
They know they own this business, and if an american console is 1, they fail, they lose billions of dollars and mind-share.
So you might as well forget about the xbox, it\'s a interim pest at best for the Playstation2.
I agree you have some good points. Btw, welcome to the forum, its good to have you here. You seem like a smart gamer.:thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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Originally posted by ddaryl
boy I must say
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I also find it hysterical that you say you don\'t want to argue but you posted this topic anyways.
That... Strangely resembles a...
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:eek:
* Nu Gundam screams.
My eyes! My virgin eyes!
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Megiddo, just because an American system enters a Japanese market, doesn\'t mean that it will suck. That is way stereotypical. American\'s enter the market big deal but will it suck? We don\'t know. I don\'t want x-box but I\'m glad it entered the gaming race.
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this post was the most not thought out, not backed up diatribe i have seen...
yea microsoft is gonna walk away from the console bussines cuz\' the japanese didn\'t give them a high-five when the x-box came out. uh-huh. right.
not saying the xbox will be a player...but we sure as hell don\'t know.
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You miss the entire premise of this inane argument.
This has to be the most simpleminded statement I\'ve ever heard. It\'s so simple, and seems so logical that I almost believed it (probably because I kind of wanted to believe it).
The thesis:
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The Console Gaming industry IS owned by the Japanese and will ALWAYS be owned by the japanese..it\'s that simple.
Do you think japanese game developers want an american company to dicate the industry? hell no.
They know they own this business, and if an american console is 1, they fail, they lose billions of dollars and mind-share.
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The Japanese themselves own nothing. That is the first problem. The people who own the industry are Sony and Nintendo--not Japan the nation.
Game developers could care less if a console is American or Japanese. Game developers run a business and businesses want to make money. A company like Sega or Namco do not care so long as they make money. It\'s like saying the Country of America is upset or desires to have the console industry wrapped up. I don\'t remember Bush saying anything of the sort in his state of the union address.
Japan the state stands to lose very little if the xbox succeeds. Japan the state has far bigger worries than the business practises of Nintendo and Sony. Japan the State would not lose billions of dollars--Sony and Nintendo would.
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[SIZE=8]USA[/SIZE]
Don\'t like it? Eat a d1ck
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man this guy is not too brite or his logic is all flawed
all i know is for one the Xbox WILL be successful in America - it already has quite a following here and isnt fading away - now as for europe and japan i am nopt too sure
here in US they have a lot of games that are interesting to us - there arent too many games that seem to interest japanese yet so it looks like it may struggle there
all i know is i cant wait for it to be released here :D
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
[SIZE=8]USA[/SIZE]
Don\'t like it? Eat a d1ck
:laughing:
You always have weird comments.
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Megiddo is NPLAYER.
Everything about him is there; the idiotic arguments that have been shot to death repeatedly, the arrogance, the occasional capitalized word, the "..." seperating different thoughts within the same lines, he\'s from LA, etcetera.
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Originally posted by M4
Megiddo is NPLAYER.
Everything about him is there; the idiotic arguments that have been shot to death repeatedly, the arrogance, the occasional capitalized word, the "..." seperating different thoughts within the same lines, he\'s from LA, etcetera.
I figured it out before you. :p
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Oh, I doubt that. I\'m the Internet NPLAYER-sniffer. If he tromps upon a forum, I AM THERE.
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In other words: You stalk him. :eek:
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Originally posted by Nu Gundam
In other words: You stalk him. :eek:
No, he just keeps showing up everywhere I go by complete coincidence.
:shy:
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Sure, M4... Sure... :p
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Originally posted by ViVi
:laughing:
You always have weird comments.
That\'s what makes me the #1 stunnah up in here
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Originally posted by Megiddo
Why you scream?..well, it\'s quite simple really.
It\'s american..case closed.
The Console Gaming industry IS owned by the Japanese and will ALWAYS be owned by the japanese..it\'s that simple.
Do you think japanese game developers want an american company to dicate the industry? hell no.
They know they own this business, and if an american console is 1, they fail, they lose billions of dollars and mind-share.
So you might as well forget about the xbox, it\'s a interim pest at best for the Playstation2.
Please tell me that you do not come from Los Angeles. You make people from LA look stupid. I am not one to say anything about spelling, but at least use a dictionary.
Japan needs money just like America. They will create games for American consoles as well. Microsoft is NOT Atari, nor is it 3DO.
There are reasons why Atari is no longer with us and 3DO is a software company that makes crappy games, and it has nothing to do with Japan. :)
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When you say "American consoles cannot be successful" you are almost saying that "Eggs with ketchup and ice cream taste like donkey sweat." :)
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Originally posted by Titan
Megiddo, just because an American system enters a Japanese market, doesn\'t mean that it will suck. That is way stereotypical. American\'s enter the market big deal but will it suck? We don\'t know. I don\'t want x-box but I\'m glad it entered the gaming race.
Tell me what american systems was successfull over there then? the 3DO?nope. THe Jaguar? nope...
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Didn\'t Microsoft release a system before that did kinda/sorta okay in Japan? I believe it even had a version of Metal Gear on it...
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Originally posted by DJ Tiesto
Tell me what american systems was successfull over there then? the 3DO?nope. THe Jaguar? nope...
3DO was just a stupid system. It wasn\'t even succesful in America. I\'m too young to remember it though. I don\'t even know about the Jaguar. I can\'t come to a conclusion except to wait for the X-Box to be released then we\'ll see who\'s wrong.
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There was the MSX. Which, isn\'t really a game console (more of a PC then a console). It was successful pretty much everywhere but the US. And MS involvement, the firmware in the systems. While the system itself, was manufactured by a ton of companies, including Japanese companies (example...Philips, Yamaha, and Sony ;)).
Anyways, the reason why 3DO failed, $700 for this system. Even then, thats expensive. Not to mention, not a whole lot of support to justify that absorbed price. Atari Jaguar. Part timing (its been how long since Atari released a successful console?), part price ($400?), company mishandling (ownership of Atari has changed hands over and over, and eventually, lead to its fate) and lack of developer support again doomed this system.
Xbox, doesn\'t appear to have these problems. Tons of support, and even the price ($300) is somewhat reasonable (afterall, the PS2 is...$300 [before the expected price drop, but in the mean time, $300]).
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I dont see why Japanese game developers would lose millions if the gaming industry was dominated by an American company. US game developers can do well. Just look at EA. Perhaps the most successful developer in the world. They are a US company and the gaming industy at the moment is dominated by the Japanese