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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ddaryl on September 24, 2001, 01:10:14 PM
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Well I\'ve played the Ico demo twice myself and I fail to see what makes people see this game as great.
Basically here\'s the game as I view it
a.) Big room full of repetitive wall textures and little much else to enjoy graphically. Sure it looks nice, but not in the way I\'ve been reading from other peoples perception.
Basically find the switch on the 2nd floor activate it then proceed through the open door on the 1st floor
b.) Enter 2nd smaller room with similiar looks. Proceed up a platform jump on chain climb up swing let go and climb through window
c.) Big room similiar to last 2. Climb up ladder to upper walk way. Line up with cage that contains the girl jump on cage and release girl.
Here comes the shadow ghosts and you simply swing away with a 2x4 and eventually they dissapear
Use gorl to open sealed door
d.) Another smaller room looks similiar to last 3. Climb down in the pist get girl to follow you. Beat off a dozen black shadows with a stick then use small rock to jump over to ledge.
Call girl to you and help her up then use her to open sealed door
e.) Outdoor level. Looks pretty cool, but use of fog kinda fades out the caste. Castle textures are so so.
Proceed to windmill and grab a hold of one of the windmill thingies. Ride to top jump offf, proceed around upper ledge activate switch which activates bridge but only 3/4 of the way call over girl then have her jump to you .
Proceed through sealed doors end of demo
Now I know alot of yu are excited about this game, but from reading through so many comments I was under the impression that there was huge innovations and that this game will be a classic
I personally am not seeing what the fuss is all about and I have to believe I missed some things in the demo
anyone want to explain to me what it is I\'m missing here cause I\'m confused
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I dunno but it just seems great to me.
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It\'s beauty displayed through polygons.
The game is an adventure. There\'s very little action, and everything is based around experiencing the intricate world of ICO. It\'s something new, which many want to take part in.
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i know what your saying when you say this, but look at it this way, the reason i want it so bady is the origionality and mystery behind it, i know it sounds dumb but this will be a brainy game with puzzles and will make your brain hurt from thinking so much, i just love the way it looks and the entier "save the princess" feeling, the only weapon you have is a stick, the monster\'s are shadows, you are a boy that speaks a unknown language and he has a pair of horns on his head, and you have to find your way through a HUGE caslt with fantastic graphics and a whole immersive enviorment, thats all you know. you don\'t know who the main boss is, you dont really know why the girl is there, you dont really know anything about ICO, most games are completly exploited before relase all the info sucked out of them, this gaem has been un touched, it is a virgin :D
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It\'s unique-ness that can\'t really be put into words...and the graphics.
That\'s what I like about it.
Also...unknown...the boy isn\'t speaking a foreign language...the demo was still in Japanese...
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i think its ok but not as good as people are saying its gonna be. i cant wait to get my paws on jak and Daxter
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Originally posted by EviscerationX
Also...unknown...the boy isn\'t speaking a foreign language...the demo was still in Japanese...
but in the interview they say it\'s not japanese an cannot be decifered into any language wich means... it\'s an unknown language, correct me if im wrong
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I really do not see anything really unique about the game besides the fact you have to walk a girl through the castle and help her to get out along side of you.
Basically from the demo you walk from room to room or section to section and solve the needed puzzle to get to the next room or section. We\'ve seen this type of gameplay in quite a few 32 bit gen games. Sure the puzzles are dressed up some but in the demo I can\'t say that the puzzles gave me any if much feeling that I just got to have 5- 10 hours more of it.
The combat is pretty much 1 button mash in the demo.
The graphics are pretty good, but I honestly do not find them great. The castle textures are so so. The outdoor portion of the demo looked decent but the fogging faded out the castle some what. Water was awesome, but I don\'t play games just to look at pools of awesome looking water.
I\'m not trying to flame or tell anyone what to enjoy, but I\'ve read quite a few threads at IGN forums about people who consider this game to be the best thing and would get Ico over MGS2 among other more worthy games IMO.
I honestly cannot understand why people are this excited over Ico, and I really just wanted to know what it is I must be missing.
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i read in IGN that the language the princess speaks has no sub titles but when you beat the game and play it again, it does..
there are subtitles to your character language though..so you hav e to figure out what the princess says by what your character says...that sounds really cool to me.
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Graphics hasnt always been my top prority in games but ICO tottaly impressed me everything looked fairly realistic and those water effects :: ejaculates :: holy s*it they were hella nice.
As for gameplay its somewhat original in a way i guess, i know the games not 100% original it seems to borow elements from a few games ie tomb raider,oddworld, Prince of persia and so on...
But hell doesent every game borrow something from somewhere? I found the Gameplay of ICO entertaining i think its going to be interesting to see what the final version has in store.
I dont llike GT3 but everyone in the world else does. You dont like ICO but alot of other people do an so on, it all lies in personal taste i guess.
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I think that its pretty wierd. I too have olayed the demo and fail to see how great it is. It looks nice and seems somewhat mysteriouse but it doesnt interest me that much
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No, I cannot explain it to you. It\'s beyond my comprehension, but something about this game, just the demo and I\'ve never been big on demos, speaks volumes to me. I think it\'s the character interaction, the immediate immersion into a completely alien setting, the fact that there\'s absolutely no flash/glitter/what-have-you to set the stage or advance the story. It just feels personal from the very beginning.
This is my opinion and I apologize if it mimics anyone else\'s answer, I kinda skipped ahead. Anyway, no, I can\'t explain it to you, I only know that ICO is a great game...
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I\'m picking this game up tomorrow after school!!!!
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Originally posted by Majin Prince
I\'m picking this game up tomorrow after school!!!!
Ok thats wonderful, but why was my question????
No one here has yet to explain to me why Ico is being praised as much as it is
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i don\'t know....the demo kind of touched me.....the hero being a ten year old armed with only a stick....the princess being almost like an angel....the demons just blacked out shadows with red eyes...
games are about escape at some point....this game presents another world...
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I thought he demo was pretty good. I don\'t think I\'ll buy it though. I was luke warm, I\'ll rent it for sure though.
I like more action. My concern with Ico was that the fighting seemed like an afterthought--so much so that there seemed to be no reason why it was there at all. I guess it\'s good then that there seems to be so little of it.
I have a fear that it may get repetitve towards the end. I guess I\'ll wait for a couple reviews.
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Ok thats wonderful, but why was my question????
No one here has yet to explain to me why Ico is being praised as much as it is
im with you this game to me seems like it would get old very quickly, just as gauntlet legends did this looks like it could be a basic game, unless the have vast levels a many options, but i am not planning on picking this one up
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ya i just played the demo today from the underground disc in OPM. I didnt like it at all, i was actually more excited about spy hunter. anyone play the demo yet? i liked it a lot.
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I\'m gonna use the same explanation everyone else has used, it\'s a lot of fun but I cant quite put it into words, thast what some people have been saying and I agree, well it seems different from every other game I\'ve ever played so I love it, hopefully I\'ll be getting it tommorrow or wed.
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Good question ddaryl, I showed the demo to my gf today telling her it was one of the most interesting game\'s I\'ve seen in a while. After finishing the demo she gave me back the controller and called me a retard.
Really when you break it down what you\'ve said in your original post is spot on - it\'s got a few puzzles, tomb-raider esque gameplay, decent graphics - sounds like a fairly unremarkable game. But I think the total package, with the odd story, the music, this massive abandoned castle, this waif of a girl you have to protect, and you being a 10 year old hero it\'s got a kind of ethereal feel to it that\'s hard for me to describe. I think it\'s getting the praise it has for that hard to define quality - it just has a different atmosphere to any other game I\'ve ever played.
However, with money and gaming time hard to come by these days I don\'t think I\'ll be buying this one for a few months - GTA3 and Devil May Cry are just around the corner and I have to review NHL 2002. I don\'t think ICO is the best thing since sliced bread like some gaming sites, but I do think it\'s a cool game.
But then again, maybe my girlfriend is right.....
:nerd:
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Originally posted by astroglide
i don\'t know....the demo kind of touched me.....the hero being a ten year old armed with only a stick....the princess being almost like an angel....the demons just blacked out shadows with red eyes...
games are about escape at some point....this game presents another world...
This is what I feel about ICO too. This game will touch you being a young hero and saving the angel looking girl. Holding her hand and saving her from demons that will take her away. I\'m using an S-video cable and this game looks wonderful. The most shocking is the water in the game. Just jump in and watch it move. Its as real as a system can get to date. After you finish the ICO demo, you see some video of the the other levels in the game. One word, SWEET!! ;)
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I\'m using S-Video as well, and I am impressed with Ico\'s graphics, but I more impressed with quite afew other PS2 games over Ico.
I personally wouldn\'t play a agme to hold a princess\'s hand and lead her out of a castle while fending off a few creatures with a stick
SO I guess its safe to say I am missing nothing with this game and its just not my cup of tea
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SO I guess its safe to say I am missing nothing with this game and its just not my cup of tea
Well said...we all have our opinions...
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ddaryl.. you´re getting old... that´s all... ;) :D :laughing:
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Sorry lad I think its the opposite
If you really are into Ico then its because your getting old and need to play a simple room to room puzzle adventure, because too much excitement an panic action would cripple your ticker
:laughing:
Enjoy the game guys I\'ll read what you all have to say about it later on in the week. In the meantime I think I\'ll choose NHL 2002.
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If you really are into Ico then its because your getting old and need to play a simple room to room puzzle adventure, because too much excitement an panic action would cripple your ticker
That is not true...
Oh well. I\'ve played too many fast-action killing spree games lately. ICO is a nice, calm change.
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I was joking just as "The Eye" was
just having some fun and givin some love back
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Although we\'ve had our differences as of late, I think this is a really excellent question.
Much like the of the IGN editors inability to take screenshots and movies that accurately show the greatness of the game, I am also finding the same difficulty putting into words exactly why this game is so grand. Perhaps it\'s the concept behind the game that is really original.
Think about it for a moment. What other games require you to break out of a veritable prison with a helpless being in tow? I honestly can\'t think of any. We all know Zelda requires people to enter castles, defeat the enemy, rescue the princess and then restore freedom to Hyrule or something of that nature, but rarely has a game built upon the concept of escape with being a bodyguard as the chief source of the combat engine.
The chief responsibility of the main character behind most games is to ensure your own survival and in affect, saving many others, but in ICO, your job is to ensure the survival of another with your life being the one that\'s expendable. It\'s not like those cheap escort missions present in Starfighter or Ace Combat, but rather a type of mission bent on mercy where you actually care for the "cargo" in tow.
ICO has touched me enough to make me WANT to save the girl from all harm and has made me deeply concerned with her safety. Concerned enough to the point that to see her in the clutches of the "smoke demons" is almost too difficult of a site to bear and I immediately feel the need to exact revenge against them. Kind of like the "Get away from her you B*TCH!" mentality found between Newt and Ripley in Aliens.
I suppose the idea of protecting a precious cargo from all harm is fairly unique to me especially since I feel the need to assist the plight of the cargo. I know I don\'t feel attached to a precious mineral in the cargo hold of some ship a light year away, nor do I feel the urgency to save Princess Zelda from Ganon because I know that after 6 dungeons of exploration, 50 items required, and enough land traveled by foot to make even Forrest Gump jealous, she\'ll still be there even as I effortlessly search for that last piece of heart or rare item. ICO however, does not have the luxury of time, it has a level of urgency that just makes you feel like you need to work to make sure she\'s ok.
Or maybe I\'m just full of crap, but that is just my opinion.
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i haven\'t played it yet but want to after reading all about it.
by the looks of think it will be a all time classic and if you don\'t beleve me then take gabe\'s word for it...
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1. Puzzles are fun, not too hard, and not too easy...
2. Story line will be great
3. Graphics rule
4. Easy to play, yet puzzles make it harder.
5. Really fun.
Over all..... I think the puzzles and story are key.... And I will enjoy those main things in the game.... ddaryl, you might not be missing out on a whole lot..... Game\'s not that great, but still is fun, and having fun is the main part of a video game.... You must have fun!;)
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Originally posted by astroglide
i don\'t know....the demo kind of touched me.....the hero being a ten year old armed with only a stick....the princess being almost like an angel....the demons just blacked out shadows with red eyes...
games are about escape at some point....this game presents another world...
Yeah. Your right, It did seem to be personal when those shadows tried to take that girl away. I played it again to try and answer your question but I cant tell u what makes this game a great game. all i know is (IMO) this game will be pretty good even though i heard that it is short.
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I love ICO,
the anime feel of the characters, the beautiful graphics, and nice puzzles, the occasional battle to work out your thumbs, and the mystery behind ICO. hmmmm, i think it is just the idea of being a kid, and trying to save a girl... it is something very decent that a lot of us would probably do. At least i would try to save a girl from trouble. Must be the caveman in me coming out, lol Grrr, save woman, eat, hunt. :D
Hmmmm, hard to explain,.........
The game just gets you.
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IGN\'s review said there\'s about 8-10 hours of gameplay time with so so replay value. With the plethora of other quality titles comming out in the next few weeks Ico has been officially relegated to my \'3 Day Rental Only\' list. Still looking forward to playing it though.
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Welp after reading everyones opinion I can safely say from my point of view its everything I thought it was, and I still do not understand why people think this game is so great
Very good I could agree with, but some people have been willing to give up their 1st born male child for this game over at IGN and I just can not relate
Welp I\'m sure most of you will have the game done by Monday so I\'ll be reading your thoughts
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Welp after reading everyones opinion I can safely say from my point of view its everything I thought it was, and I still do not understand why people think this game is so great
Very good I could agree with, but some people have been willing to give up their 1st born male child for this game over at IGN and I just can not relate
Welp I\'m sure most of you will have the game done by Monday so I\'ll be reading your thoughts
I supose that it just depends on the person that plays it, i have just seen the 2 movies from IGN and they are EYE poopingly good, i think this game will fit in very nicely into my ever growing collection of PS2 games.
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Damn, it does appear to be short :(
But i think i might still buy it.