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Title: 17.9million and still going up!
Post by: fastson on September 29, 2001, 04:15:43 AM
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Japan: 6,54 miljoner
Europe: 4,14 miljoner
North America: 7,23 miljoner


6,54+4,14+7,23=17.91

Yeah, baby yeah! :eyemouth:

PS2 is selling like icecream in the Sahara desert!:nerd:
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Post by: Stupid Mop on September 29, 2001, 04:19:05 AM
Is that PS2\'s sold or PS2\'s shipped?
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Post by: fastson on September 29, 2001, 04:27:05 AM
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Originally posted by Vulcan Raven
Is that PS2\'s sold or PS2\'s shipped?


Sold!

Cuz Sony is producing around 2million PS2s/month.
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Post by: Stupid Mop on September 29, 2001, 04:33:29 AM
Sweet!!!

Even if the PS2 doesnt win the console war, its still gonna have a large user base so its still gonna get a lot of top quality games
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Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on September 29, 2001, 05:33:03 AM
sorry to break the bubble but sony metioned a few days ago that they shipped 17 million unts worldwide, not all of them are sold

I think its more like 10-15 million units sold
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Post by: fastson on September 29, 2001, 05:34:10 AM
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
sorry to break the bubble but sony metioned a few days ago that they shipped 17 million unts worldwide, not all of them are sold

I think its more like 10-15 million units sold


Nop.. These are fresh news.. Released today I think.. :)

So 17.9million sold.
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Post by: Bossieman on September 29, 2001, 05:52:39 AM
That figure will pass 22 million this christmas.
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Post by: BizioEE on September 29, 2001, 06:11:14 AM
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Originally posted by fastson


Nop.. These are fresh news.. Released today I think.. :)

So 17.9million sold.


:eek: :eek: :eek:  Damn...it\'s so impressive !
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Post by: Watchdog on September 29, 2001, 06:36:19 AM
Yes this is good news.  Still a long way to go (PSX sold 70 million).
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Post by: Stupid Mop on September 29, 2001, 06:40:11 AM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Yes this is good news.  Still a long way to go (PSX sold 70 million).


But it took the PSX a year to sell 1 million consoles, and yet it took about 1 month for the PS2 to do that so its on track
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Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on September 29, 2001, 07:58:45 AM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Yes this is good news.  Still a long way to go (PSX sold 70 million).


no it sold far more, more like 75 - 80 million, sony hasn\'t released new figures for a while so who knows?

but its good to see ps2 diong well, I couldn\'t have Imagined that the same time last year, with all the shortages etc. Many people in europe (including me) will be picking up a ps2, here in holland ps2 got much more popular after the price drop  which is a good thing since it was always flamed here
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Post by: fastson on September 29, 2001, 08:04:54 AM
Kirk Owen said that XBOX, NGC and PS2 would sell about 150 million units alltogether and that PS2 would sell over 50% of those..

Around 75-80million PS2s then :)
Some say 90million.. But you can never be sure.

I cant wait for MGS2! (and about 20 others ;) )
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Post by: Bossieman on September 29, 2001, 08:08:04 AM
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Originally posted by fastson


I cant wait for MGS2! (and about 20 others ;) )


Lucky you!! I´m waiting for MGS2 and about 50 others and a mouse, harddrive, BBA , keboard and other stuff.
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Post by: pstwo on September 29, 2001, 08:44:11 AM
Cool!!  Sell! Sell!  Sell!  hehe  ;)
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Post by: SER on September 29, 2001, 05:53:00 PM
How many units worldwise has the PSone sold?
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Post by: fastson on September 30, 2001, 07:27:16 AM
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Originally posted by serrano007
How many units worldwise has the PSone sold?


80-90million in 6 years!
Not bad :)
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Post by: Psycomantis101 on September 30, 2001, 09:07:21 AM
I cant believe that ps2 ahs been out for a year already. (almost a year)
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Post by: ajoh432 on September 30, 2001, 10:04:07 AM
Impressive!:eek:
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Post by: AlteredBeast on September 30, 2001, 03:42:33 PM
You guys are wrong, may I point out, it is indeed shipped.

Sony rarely, if ever, states a sale through number, as a shipped number sounds more impressive.

Good only SOny.


Eric Jacob
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Post by: kyodaibob on September 30, 2001, 04:00:44 PM
Sony has been paid for those systems, so regardless of whether of not they have been sold to a consumer, they are sold from Sony\'s point of view. I imagine that anywhere from 15-16 million of those units have been sold to consumers already anyway. The 17 million number(shipped/sold whatever) was as of August 1st.
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Post by: The Prodigy on September 30, 2001, 05:02:54 PM
More in america then japan eh?

I always thought japan was bigger on games, and the ps2 was out in japan for months before america.
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Post by: Watchdog on September 30, 2001, 05:27:12 PM
Yeah, but it\'s on track to get 70 million without any competition.  As soon as xbox and GC are released those numbers will slow.

My point was that people are short sighted.  One year of sales isn\'t that much.  It\'s what happens after that matters.  The PS2 is looking good right now because it had no competition.  Another thing, why do you think Sony released those numbers now?  It\'s no coincidence that the GC and xbox are being released very shortly.  Also, these number aren\'t reliable.  In the 16bit era, Sega and Nintendo exaggerated all the time about their numbers.  

The PS2 has undoubtedly sold millions of consoles, but I think 18 million is a little optimistic.

All we can say for sure is that the PS2 isn\'t going anywhere anytime soon.

Also, the point about it taking the PSX 1 year to sell 1 million means nothing because it is a vastly larger market now than it was 6 years ago.

Who the hell is Kurt Owen?
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Post by: Sublimesjg on September 30, 2001, 07:05:14 PM
Even if the numbers are exaggerated and i seriously doubt they are too much if at all because what the big difference betwn a couple million when you are talking about 15-17

just kidding - well kinda just kidding

but anyway its impressive numbers and thats what makes it hard to believe
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Post by: until_O on September 30, 2001, 07:25:59 PM
I got a question about the data. Why don\'t they count the sale from some eastern places like Hong Kong, Taiwan, Philippine, etc? There are millions of people in those countries and if we include those countries as well, wouldn\'t the sale number reaches 20 mill? A lot of my friends who are living in those countries have got a PS2 too.
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Post by: Simchoy on September 30, 2001, 08:00:55 PM
No clue on why. Maybe they are just not a big market for PS2s (if they do effect the numbers, they might add another half a million, instead of a million).

But, I seriously don\'t know.

Anyways, shipped or sold, these are still good numbers. Now, if they are shipped. not a s good as sold, but even then, I\'m expecting, 15 or so million sold through since I doubt there are 3 million-7 million sitting in store selves and warehouses (though, they probably are stacking up for the holidays though [which, unless things improve, its not going to be a very happy one for any company]).
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Post by: fastson on October 01, 2001, 12:48:19 AM
These numbers ARE the number of consoles SOLD..

Sony is making 2million consoles/month so the number of shipped units would and is much higher..
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Post by: AlteredBeast on October 01, 2001, 08:17:04 AM
show me a link fastson, I dare you. You won\'t find one.


Eric Jacob
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Post by: fastson on October 01, 2001, 08:33:22 AM
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
show me a link fastson, I dare you. You won\'t find one.


Eric Jacob


Yes I have one.. But you cant read swedish :p

And I saw a link on futurenet.com the other day..

But if you must..
Go here (http://www.gon.nu/nyheter.asp?id=2082#nyhet)

Ask Bossieman he\'s swedish aswell and he\'ll tell you the same thing.
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Post by: Bossieman on October 01, 2001, 08:43:06 AM
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Originally posted by fastson


Yes I have one.. But you cant read swedish :p

And I saw a link on futurenet.com the other day..

But if you must..
Go here (http://www.gon.nu/nyheter.asp?id=2082#nyhet)

Ask Bossieman he\'s swedish aswell and he\'ll tell you the same thing.


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Totalt har - håll i er nu - 17,9 miljoner enheter sålts över hela världen.

Här är siffrorna för varje region:

Japan: 6,54 miljoner
Europe: 4,14 miljoner
North America: 7,23 miljoner



use a translator and things will become clear.

Totally- Hold something -17.9 mil. units have been SOLD  across the planet.

Here is the numbers for each region:

Japan: 6,54 miljoner
Europe: 4,14 miljoner
North America: 7,23 miljoner


IOW: Sony rules
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Post by: AlteredBeast on October 01, 2001, 08:59:54 AM
hahahaha. how about a real link? You know, an established videogame magazine or site? Not this Swedish BS. it shouldn\'t be too hard.

It\'s no mystery that a Swedish journalist could mistranslate something from an AMERICAN site.


Eric Jacob
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Post by: Bossieman on October 01, 2001, 09:39:59 AM
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
hahahaha. how about a real link? You know, an established videogame magazine or site? Not this Swedish BS. it shouldn\'t be too hard.

It\'s no mystery that a Swedish journalist could mistranslate something from an AMERICAN site.


Eric Jacob


Whats up duck? You are getting more and more hostile for every new post you do. We don´t laugh at you so please dont laugh at us. You asked Fastson a question he answered and gave you a link, and still you laugh at him, why?
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Post by: fastson on October 01, 2001, 11:53:50 AM
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
hahahaha. how about a real link? You know, an established videogame magazine or site? Not this Swedish BS. it shouldn\'t be too hard.

It\'s no mystery that a Swedish journalist could mistranslate something from an AMERICAN site.


Eric Jacob


I see.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So something that isnt american is automaticly bad??? LMAO!

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing::laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Damn you kill me.. aah.. Well, thats my laugh for today..
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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Post by: The Chair on October 01, 2001, 12:18:34 PM
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Originally posted by fastson


I see.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So something that isnt american is automaticly bad??? LMAO!

Damn you kill me.. aah.. Well, thats my laugh for today..
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

It\'s even more funny how you misinterpreted his words.
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Post by: ajoh432 on October 01, 2001, 12:30:25 PM
Ok well.... This is certainly turning a little strange...

I dunno... Lets just think with these being shipped..... Since we have no sources other than one.

But if this is true.... It\'s mighty impressive.
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Impressive!:eek:
Yes, past ajoh432.... Very.:D
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Post by: Megiddo on October 01, 2001, 12:47:52 PM
What a certain village idiot does not realize is that ship does in-fact = sold.

Sony sells every single piece of hardware to retailers such as BestBuy for example...it\'s their job to sell the hardware.

Now, if said hardware sells, they will order more from Sony...

Get it yet? Shipped=Sold
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Post by: AlteredBeast on October 01, 2001, 01:26:05 PM
http://www.geocities.com/chtang.geo/gaming.htm

DAMN!! looks like I was right.

Don\'t ever doubt a mad jackass, jackass.


Eric Jacob
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Post by: fastson on October 01, 2001, 01:29:26 PM
Riiight.. LOL
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Post by: AlteredBeast on October 01, 2001, 01:43:07 PM
Hey thats fine with me fastson, I am not trying to convert you into being intelligent about your arguments. Take MY link as you will, it is an established WORLD videogames site, while yours is not visited outside of Europe, and even then, probably not outside of Sweden.

Give me a break, don\'t start this stupid crap if you can\'t back it up, I was correct, you were undoubtedly incorrect, along with the scientist, Bossieman, gee imagine that.


Eric Jacob
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on October 01, 2001, 01:44:09 PM
boys boys...unless its with Jumpman, lets not fight amongst our own ranks

bleh...ok, we all know that its not going to happen  :)
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Post by: fastson on October 01, 2001, 01:47:59 PM
Ill let you have this one AlteredBeast.. I know it doesn’t happen to you very often.. ;)
(j/k)

Im not here to diss anyone..

Papa Bob has brought me up well.. No violence is the way to go :D
Right father Bob?

Btw.. August 2001?? Hmm.. Old news?
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on October 01, 2001, 01:49:31 PM
gah!  it seams every thread i participate in goes off topic and turns to spam  :(

but..uhh...yes, its right...i guess...i dunno
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Post by: AlteredBeast on October 01, 2001, 01:53:13 PM
not off-topic, just correction in the main idea of the thread. Everyone was celebrating 17.9 million sold, while I corrected it.

You can still celebrate 17.9 million consoles shipped, don\'t let me stop you.

Yeah yeah!!! Sony!!! pump out those consoles! Good job!!

isn\'t that the main reason for this thread? to pat ourselves on the back for buying PS2s? thought so.


Eric Jacob
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on October 01, 2001, 01:58:37 PM
well, personally i agree with Altered...and as i  pointed out in another thread on the same topic, i think it would be in the order of 15 - 17 million sold

its hard to keep track of every single one SOLD...otherwise thery would have exact number, not estimates
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Post by: fastson on October 01, 2001, 02:00:28 PM
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast

Yeah yeah!!! Sony!!! pump out those consoles! Good job!!

isn\'t that the main reason for this thread? to pat ourselves on the back for buying PS2s? thought so.




Nop..

Its to celebrate that PS2 is still selling very well..
If it wouldn’t the developers would desert it.. That wouldn’t be very good..

More units=more good games.. and more games overall. (Both chitty and good.. But hey.. No one is forcing you to buy em ;) )

Im sure if these news were about the Xbox or DC.. You\'d be celebrating as much as we are..

So.. Now.. More champagne anyone?? :eyemouth:
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Post by: AlteredBeast on October 01, 2001, 05:53:38 PM
We don\'t need to post a thread of this type to inform developers that PS2 has shipped 17.9 million consoles. In fact, the whole idea of reporting a system sell-through number is designed in 2 ways.

1) To encourage people that believe \'x\' system will fail to purchase \'x\' system.
2) to make people think it is hopeless for all other consoles to beat it
3) to pat yuorself on the back for owning one.

Share My Excitement!!! yay!

This thread is as dumb as if I was to say "Microsoft has just built their 422,000 console, yippee!"


Eric Jacob
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Post by: ddaryl on October 01, 2001, 06:48:43 PM
nope threads like these are only dumb if its a console you wish wasn\'t on top


Its self explanatory
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Post by: AlteredBeast on October 01, 2001, 06:57:05 PM
huh? run that by me again?


Eric Jacob
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Post by: DirectXbox on October 02, 2001, 05:05:51 AM
Ddaryl is right.  But things could change drastically.  In a market that is expected to grow by 50 million gamers, 17 million consoles isn\'t that impressive.  New and more people will be playing games and they won\'t be previous Sony console owners just as some of the PSX gamers weren\'t traditional console players.  The majority of the PS2\'s have been sold to Sony fans not those 50 million new gamers.  Those 50 million gamers are up for grabs.
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Post by: ooseven on October 02, 2001, 05:38:11 AM
Ddaryl is right.  But things could change drastically.  In a market that is expected to grow by 50 million gamers, 17 million consoles isn\'t that impressive.  New and more people will be playing games and they won\'t be previous Sony console owners just as some of the PSX gamers weren\'t traditional console players.  The majority of the PS2\'s have been sold to Sony fans not those 50 million new gamers.  Those 50 million gamers are up for grabs. [/QUOTE]

[sarcastic]
Yeah your right by the Time the X box comes out, every PS2 in the World Will Be traded in all 17 million of them for X box\'s, and good old Billy will have the CEO of Sony Wipped naked through the streets of LA.............
[/sarcastic]

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Originally posted by Alteredbeast
hahahaha. how about a real link? You know, an established videogame magazine or site? Not this Swedish BS. it shouldn\'t be too hard.

It\'s no mystery that a Swedish journalist could mistranslate something from an AMERICAN site.


Eric Jacob



Sorry mate but i am with Fastson and Bossieman on this one.

Also if thats news from Autum then what are todays Total ?

Remeber here in Europe we have seen a cut in the Price in PS\'2 and an Increase in the buying of PS2 games.
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Post by: Bossieman on October 02, 2001, 06:37:54 AM
that was 31/8/2001 they make 2 million each month meaning that today the number of units ships is around 20 million.
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Post by: IronFist on October 02, 2001, 06:44:16 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven
Remeber here in Europe we have seen a cut in the Price in PS\'2 and an Increase in the buying of PS2 games.

Yeah, and also remember that Europe isn\'t getting any new console this year.  Sony will own this Christmas.:fro:
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Post by: ooseven on October 02, 2001, 07:00:13 AM
Thanks mate :D

also Rememeber the DMC and MGS2 will be released in the US also the Final Fantasy 10 has already added to total PS2 sales in Japan.
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Post by: DirectXbox on October 02, 2001, 08:19:45 AM
ooseven, I heard about safety in numbers, but you guys are taking it to another level.  If it makes you feel better...:o
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Post by: ooseven on October 02, 2001, 09:10:46 AM
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Originally posted by DirectXbox
ooseven, I heard about safety in numbers, but you guys are taking it to another level.  If it makes you feel better...:o


and yeah your right i feal very safe along with 17.9 million other PS2 owners :D.
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Post by: DirectXbox on October 02, 2001, 10:01:46 AM
So you only bought a PS2 because everyone else did?  That\'s what it sounds like.
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Post by: IronFist on October 02, 2001, 10:36:22 AM
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Originally posted by DirectXbox
So you only bought a PS2 because everyone else did?  That\'s what it sounds like.

I don\'t think that was directed towards me, but I\'ll answer it anyways.  I bought a PS2 because I was so happy with my PSX purchase.  I had faith in Sony after their 32 bit generation success.  I also like the games that were coming out to it.  Some of them were dissapointing (The Bouncer), but for the most part I was very happy with my PS2 purchase.  And this fall makes me even happier. :D

Why did you buy a PS2 DirectXbox?
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Post by: fastson on October 03, 2001, 10:05:10 AM
 --->COUGH (http://www.sonyweb.com/news/0901/083.html) <---
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Post by: IronFist on October 03, 2001, 11:12:50 AM
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Originally posted by fastson
--->COUGH (http://www.sonyweb.com/news/0901/083.html) <---  

I\'m starting to question the credibility of Sonyweb and Gamerweb.  IGN posted these exact figures last week, yet they were consoles shipped.  I think Sonyweb is just bending the truth a little to make its readers happy.  

And I think they got that Jet Set Radio Future coming to the PS2 info from Magic Lamp (Err, Magic something.  I can\'t quite remember the name.)  More than half the PS2 sites out there have reported this news, but I won\'t believe it until it\'s posted on IGN.