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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Bossieman on October 07, 2001, 10:03:03 AM
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I just saw it on the news. The war has started. Why? People are going to die. I hate war.
This is a really fu(ked up world we are living in.
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Where did they attack?!
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I just heard there using B-1, B-2, and B-52 planes that bomb them. The Brits are helping the U.S. bomb Afgansian as well. Submarines are being used as well to fire missile as well. Well this shows you don\'t mess with the U.S. :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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i heard afghanastan is sosposedly going to bomb us within the next 24 hours?anyone heard anything about that? im going to die i live in va:laughing:
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The good part is they got the terrorist training camp, as well as other terrorist groups.:thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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Originally posted by Bossieman
I hate war.
This is a really fu(ked up world we are living in.
I agree Bossieman. I also hate war. But I guess it has to be done:(
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When did this happen?
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This began I think today. Maybe last night but am 90% sure it was today.
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Originally posted by Tetrad
When did this happen?
11:30 in the afternoon here.(central)
i remember cause i wanted to watch the bears pre game but they were talking about the bombings.
oh well, i guess there are things more important than football. but not many mind you!
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Bossieman,
Did you ask why? Does September 11 sound familiar?
Ace
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They should destroy the ****ty Talaban....
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To the men and women over there:
HAPPY HUNTING!
War means fighting and fighting means killing, said Nathan Bedford Forrest. And to that I say, DEATH TO BIN LADEN AND THE TALIBAN!!!!!!!
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They are definitly going to kill Bin Laden and any of the Taliban that got in the way. But the US did warn the Taliban and gave a list of demands such as hand over Bin Laden. If they would have given into the demands, there would be no war. Now Afghanistan will be bombed to hell.
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Austria-Hungary has it\'s archduke assasinated by a member of a group harbored and supported by Serbia.
Austria-Hungary gives list of demands to Serbia to make up for this.
Serbia does not comply.
Austria-Hungary declares war on Serbia.
Other nations join Serbia, other nations join Austria-Hungary.
World War 1.
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Originally posted by Bossieman
People are going to die. I hate war.
This is a really fu(ked up world we are living in.
You don\'t need war for people to die.
Just ask the 5000 people sitting at their freaking desks the morning of September 11th.
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A lot of people died in those 2 towers, i guess it is payback time ...
[Conspiracy theory]
i also wonder how many CEO/CFO/Business leaders died on Sept 11 in those towers, if any...
[/Conspiracy theory]
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Why US not using the F-117 bomers! It was also a use in desert Storm. It was the first attack in bagdad using laser-guided bombs at pin-point accuracy.
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Originally posted by pstwo
Why US not use the F-117 bomer! It was also a use in desert Storm. It was the first attack in bagdad.
I dont think it can fly as far as the other big bombers..
And I dont think it can lift from Aircraft Carriers..
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I think we need to launch them from ground air bases.
Can you believe the bombers flew from Missouri. That is just amazing. That\'s a long freaking way.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
I think we need to launch them from ground air bases.
Can you believe the bombers flew from Missouri. That is just amazing. That\'s a long freaking way.
Took 22 hours I think..
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What do you think they did for 22 hours? :confused:
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I feel sorry for those familes who tried to leave Afghanistan but the Taleban wouldn\'t let them - I saw on TV that many had to bribe the border guards, while those who didn\'t have the cash couldn\'t leave the country. Hopefully they stayed camped out near the border and not near Kabul and wherever else the US is bombing. Won\'t be much hope for them with their infrastructure to be completely ruined and even if they leave the country they\'ll probably spend time in prision camps, but at least they\'ll be alive. ****ing stupid Taleban.
Anyone read about the USSR\'s \'adventures\' in trying to occupy Afghanistan over the course of 10 years? The US should stick to carpet bombing...
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Did you guys watch that recently released video of bin Laden and his 2 cronies? After hearing their utter bullsh*t all I can say is
BOMB THE TALIBAN TO HELL
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Bomb the terrorist group to hell is what I say. Destroy their camps, burn their training facilities. What is the terrorist group anyway? I can\'t remember. It slipped my mind.
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Originally posted by THX
Did you guys watch that recently released video of bin Laden and his 2 cronies? After hearing their utter bullsh*t all I can say is
BOMB THE TALIBAN TO HELL
yes, according to bin laden we in america are all "sinners"
whatever that means
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Originally posted by fastson
I dont think it can fly as far as the other big bombers..
And I dont think it can lift from Aircraft Carriers..
fastson, there is a plane called the KC-135 Tanker that re-fuel the aircrafts in mid air. Like this picture. Thiere is check points in certain zones that the KC-135 Tanker fly all the time to re-fuel any military US jets. The Bomers that went to the site was B1, B2, B-52 and there are too big to take off an Aircraft Carrers.
The KC-135 is re-fueling the F-117 Night Hawk.
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pstwo: Yes I know about tanker planes :)
But I dont think the F-117 is build for flying that long..
Alot of things can go wrong..
And it cant deliver the payload of the B1, B2 and B-52..
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Originally posted by Lavan
Anyone read about the USSR\'s \'adventures\' in trying to occupy Afghanistan over the course of 10 years? The US should stick to carpet bombing...
Actually I think it would be totally different if we tried to occupy Afghanistan, than it was when the Russians did it. For much of the Soviet invasion, the United States was supplying weapons to the Mujahadean through Pakistan. When the Taliban came to power, they also purchased weapons and ammunition on the black market through Pakistan. I think we have effectively closed off that supply line, and I don\'t believe the Russians will be selling them ammo anytime soon. It\'s hard for even guerrillas to fight a war without weapons. All we have to do is figure out where their caches are, and hit them by air. These idiots are much more poorly equipped than Iraq was.
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I heard they have enough weapons/ammo for 10 years.
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Originally posted by Bossieman
People are going to die.
People have already died. 9-11-01
Kick his ass, U.S.A.
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Finally.
Stone Cold: If you think the Taliban and Bin Laden are gonna die gimmie a hell yeah!
Crowd: Hell yeah!
Stone Cold.: What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?
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Originally posted by fastson
And it cant deliver the payload of the B1, B2 and B-52..
I think that is more the reason. Why fly thousands of miles to drop a could missles...? It just makes more sense to fly the big boys.
And for 22 hours, I bet they were hanging out watching the MP3 Dancer on their laptop computers. Heck, they probably have a girl who pops up on their radar.
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I just love how Bush said it:
The Taliban will pay.
Those bastards are not human, and I hope every one of them dies. Time to give them a taste of Good Old Style American Asswhoop, British-tested, German-Approved...
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Funny how that movie of Bin Laden was made in daylight when they bombed at night. :)
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Originally posted by Samwise
Funny how that movie of Bin Laden was made in daylight when they bombed at night. :)
Call me crazy..but I think all of this is a movie and we havent gottent o the next scene yet. Otherwise as you stated why was his video during the day when it was nighttime when everything broke out over there. He\'s probably had that on tape for 2 weeks now.
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Bossieman since your like super brainiac, or you like to show people that you think you are, do you have any alternatives or other possible ways of retaliating?
Hmmm where is Falcon4 in all of this?
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Originally posted by Samwise
Funny how that movie of Bin Laden was made in daylight when they bombed at night. :)
Not really. It was pretty widely reported that the tape of bin Laden was shot before our attack and sometime after 9/11. It was only received to be aired as early as yesterday.
I saw it with my dad and he made this comment:
"You see that little hole in the rock behind bin Laden\'s head?"
"Yea..."
"That\'s where he crawled out of do to this interview."
-Eik
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New bombings today!
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Originally posted by Ghettomath
Bossieman since your like super brainiac, or you like to show people that you think you are, do you have any alternatives or other possible ways of retaliating?
Well war aint a good sulution is it? The responsible people behind the attac agains US are not going to be killed in this war. bUT ONE THING IS FOR SURE, INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE
FOR @#$% SAKE!! IT IS THE YEAR 2001 AND THE WORLD ARE STILL DOMINATED BY RELIGION, WAR AND REVENGE!! IT MAKES ME SICK!!! I´M ASHAMED OF BEEING A HUMAN.
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Originally posted by Bossieman
FOR FU(K SAKE!! IT IS THE YEAR 2001 AND THE WORLD ARE STILL DOMINATED BY RELIGION, WAR AND REVENGE!! IT MAKES ME SICK!!! I´M ASHAMED OF BEEING A HUMAN.
That\'s one way of looking at it. The other is that up until September 10th we were living in a world not dominated by anything (read: free). That freedom went crashing 110 stories to the ground. Just ask the families of the previously free 6,000 twin tower employees.
I\'m sure you agree that sucks. But you also say revenge sucks. OK, but unless you want jet air craft turning you to vapor while you\'re trying to earn a living, then it\'s the price you have to pay. Of course, the price to you is just pennies compared to that of the thousands sitting calmly at their desks last month.
Me? I\'m proud to be human. Human, and not like those things living in caves, toting rifles, and blaspheming their god on a continuing basis.
-Eik
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That\'s all fine and dandy Bossie, but these si(k f\'cks shouldn\'t have hijacked our planes and kill thousands of people without expecting retaliation. Now they\'re saying that we are the terrorists. lmao. I hope allah is with them, because allah of missiles are going to be striking their @$$.
/ dm /
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I feel sorry for all the people that thinks US striking against Afghanistan is the way to go. How can you people say war is the way to go? Think of all the innocent people in afghanistan that is going to die, its terrible. The strike against the WTC is also terrible but striking back and killing more people is not the solution. War is NEVER a good solution. Think of the american soldiers that is going to get killed in this war. I dont get, it how can a strike against Afghanistan be something good?
All this talk about revenge and now the talibans are going to get some American missile up there a$$. They are humans just like you and me. Nothing, nothing good is coming out of this war, absolutely nothing, but millions of millions people are running from their homes.
And what about the 25000 people that dies every day in this world because of starvation and lack of water, how cares about them? I know americans are patriots and thinks they are the greatest in the world but there are actually other humans on this planet.
I still hates war and cant see anything good coming from this war. The war is not going to bring back the dead only bring more people to death.
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Give me a break. Religion may start wars, but science THRIVES on them. Just remember, this war was started by them. Don\'t demonize us for doing what\'s right. So innocent Afghanis will die, it\'s tragic but keep this in mind: THEY DIRECTLY AND WILLFULLY ATTACKED CIVILIANS TRYING TO KILL AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. And they will continue to do so until we destroy them. You say war is not the answer, so what should we do? Negotiate? Negotiations have already failed. And even your maniacally pacifist ideal of feeding all the poor, yeah, it\'s a great idea, but that\'s hardly the problem we face here. These bastards hate America, they hate Americans, and they hate everyone and anyone who shares our way of living and thinking. Which means, if you aren\'t Muslim, and you don\'t think you should murder all non-muslims, and you actually enjoy technology and life, you are an evil sinner and you must die. And might I bring to your attention the nightly food drops we are making to the Afghanis.
Afghani citizens will die, but at least we gave them an ENTIRE MONTH to get out of the way, unlike the 50-odd minutes the people in New York had.
You have to completely remove the cancer to destroy it, and war is the only way.
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Bossie,
What do you suppose we do? Let them attack us, and we sit here and do nothing about it? I know innocent people will die, but we are going after the guilty. If someone came and broke the window of my car, you bet your @$$ I will return the favor.
Bush gave them two weeks to hand over Mr. idiot. They did nothing, but talk crap, and now they will be turned into crap. War isn\'t pretty, and I hate the fact that we\'re in the middle of one, but what other option was there? An eye for an eye. Or something like that.
/ dm /
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I know its not a easy thing to solve this situation. They will use some kind of retaliation on the US because of the attack against Afghanistan. When this happens a lot of people are going to die, they did not try to kill as many people as they could, there is many others targets that is way better to attack if they would want to kill as many civillians as possible.
I think this sucks bigtime, I hate this situation.
There is a pretty big risk that we are going to see the end of mankind and i am not joking. I have never been afraid of this before, but now i actually thinks that we are going to erase the human race within 30 years or so. I dont find that funny at all. For me as a civilian in Sweden this is so very very wrong. I know we all have different opinions on this but I feel really bad about this.
Biological weapons and chemical weapons may be used against US and UK.
Its a fu(king nightmare!! What kind of world are we living in? Is this what 30 000 years of human civilisation has managed to do? I refuse to think that it has to be something else.
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Can you imagine if the 4 planes slammed into 4 different nuclear power plants ??? North America would glow for thousands of years...
I wonder why the Terrorists did not do that instead ...
Originally posted by Bossieman
I know its not a easy thing to solve this situation. They will use some kind of retaliation on the US because of the attack against Afghanistan. When this happens a lot of people are going to die, they did not try to kill as many people as they could, there is many others targets that is way better to attack if they would want to kill as many civillians as possible.
I think this sucks bigtime, I hate this situation.
There is a pretty big risk that we are going to see the end of mankind and i am not joking. I have never been afraid of this before, but now i actually thinks that we are going to erase the human race within 30 years or so. I dont find that funny at all. For me as a civilian in Sweden this is so very very wrong. I know we all have different opinions on this but I feel really bad about this.
Biological weapons and chemical weapons may be used against US and UK.
Its a fu(king nightmare!! What kind of world are we living in? Is this what 30 000 years of human civilisation has managed to do? I refuse to think that it has to be something else.
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Originally posted by Toxical
Can you imagine if the 4 planes slammed into 4 different nuclear power plants ??? North America would glow for thousands of years...
I wonder why the Terrorists did not do that instead ...
exactly or Hoverdamm (is that right spelled?) or some biological institiution.
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Bossieman, i respect your views on a lot of things but in a situation like this what you are saying is making me upset. Maybe its because you dont live in America and you were not here when it happend. Maybe it wasnt on every single television station for 24 hours a day, playing the incident over and over, showing the afgahns celebrating, showing pictures of the aftermath, and the reporters saying how few people they were finding. Maybe its because all those american flags that are proudly displayed on houses/cars/buildings dont mean what they mean to me. I know for one thing, and I know 99% of my fellow americans will agree with me that I\'m not going to just sit back and say "Oh ok Bil Laden, you killed around 10,000 people in our country--lets negotiate." Its not rational. Sure bombing isnt rational either but until we think of some better way of dealing with this kind of sh!t, to me, its the most rational idea there is.
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Bossieman makes absolutely no sense what so ever. He just knows that innocent people are going to die, but he also says that we are not going to get the terrorist:
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Well war aint a good sulution is it? The responsible people behind the attac agains US are not going to be killed in this war. bUT ONE THING IS FOR SURE, INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE
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How in the heck do you know? And you have not given one reasonable thing that we should do. It\'s just amazing that you seem smart on some things, but totally whacked on this one.
Maybe you are just copying the smart things straight from books and this is real. I dunno, but I see absolutely know rational way of seeing this in any other way then we have to take care of the people who attacked us.
This is NOT revenge!!! The real Afghan Muslims want us to tear down the Taliban just as much as we do.
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Is this what 30 000 years of human civilisation has managed to do? I refuse to think that it has to be something else.
Well, if our opponent were civilized, this situation never would have happened. Civilized people do not massacre innocents. And even if they aren\'t civilized in thinking, the Taliban is the anti-civilization, removing technology, scientific, and social advances from their nation, trying to return to a \'pure\' existence which never existed in the first place. Get rid of the uncivilized, and civilization has less to worry about.
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Originally posted by Weltall
I just love how Bush said it:
The Taliban will pay.
Those bastards are not human, and I hope every one of them dies. Time to give them a taste of Good Old Style American Asswhoop, British-tested, German-Approved...
man there aint no such thing as good old style, all old style is baaaad its like drinking canned piss
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How can you people say war is the way to go?
It work in the 40\'s!
Bossieman,
I think you have some issues to work out when it comes to religion. Would you say the same thing if we were back in the 40\'s? Would you be saying this about Hitler and his gang? What are we supposed to do sit back and let these animals bomb our people?
There is a pretty big risk that we are going to see the end of mankind and i am not joking.
Talk about hysteria!
Get a grip and sit back while the USA takes care of another problem in the world.
Ace
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Can one person here find me a civilized "People/Nation",
err, you can\'t lol, we are all animals, with bigger brains, which thrive on violence.
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It\'s easy to drop bombs, and launch cruise missles. Just wait untill ground troops are sent in. There\'s gonna be alot of Americans coming back in body bags. I hope the number is low.:(
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Same thing was said about the Gulf War.
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Aghanistan is most likely the weakest foe we\'ve ever fought militarily. They number a mere 45,000 soldiers, and can barely even keep them armed. We are not fighting an organized army by any means. Not that I see a quick victory, because they do have one great asset: The terrain. It\'s up to the Northern Alliance to help us around that shortfall, as they know the terrain well too.
In the end, our victory is inevitable. Five days of bombing, and it\'s been all good. It\'s the easy part of course, but we\'ll win this. We\'re the US of ****ing A baby, and when we want to kick ass, asses invariably end up kicked.
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Northern Alliance isnt really much better than the tallibans..
They have the same faith and so on.. (Dont think that the NA is gods gift to the people.. They\'re just as greedy as the Tallibans!)
I dont think the Afghan people will welcome them if theyre no better than the Tallibans.
This time the US cant just forget about them.. (You know like last time?)
And you know those "para-food-drops" or whatever you call them?
The experts says "Its a joke" and they\'re sure that the people in Afghanistan think so too..
40 000 crates wont help much.. And if Bush had any info on Afghanistan he\'d know most of the country is mountains and desert..
Plus Afghanistan is the most mined country.. (mines as in BOOM!)
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There will be a nuclear attack on some country in the year 2006. Apparently that is hidden in the Bible. This war will start WWIII I\'m sure of it.
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WAR, WHAT IT ISNT GOOD FOR, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING , oh sorry I just love that song:laughing:
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Originally posted by JediMaster
There will be a nuclear attack on some country in the year 2006. Apparently that is hidden in the Bible. This war will start WWIII I\'m sure of it.
See, Jedimaster, its stuff like this that makes me pi$$ed off. What is the purpose of this post? To make people scared? You know...if you\'re right then too bad no one will care that you predicted it, we will all be dead.