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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: shoe on October 15, 2001, 12:15:30 PM
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I have had every nintendo system until the gba.i was gonna get a gamecube but i got a ps2 instead and im glad because they have nothing but crap anymore. their best games they seem too be messing up zelda metroid and mario.luigis mansion is supposed too suck.back in the old days they had bad ass games now their for (toddlers)
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topic I Wish NINTENDO was like they used too be
what you mean Successful ?
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Shouldn\'t this thread be in Console debate or main forum? Well, anyway, i don\'t care. I don\'t like Nintendo anymore since the SNES.
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The Super Nintendo was an incredible system. I still play it today and you can still buy games for them at Blockbusters. I regret buying N64, I thought it would continue to offer better looking and fun games like the SNES. Boy was I wrong!
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Nintendo didn\'t change at all, we just grew up or grew out of their games.
Eric Jacob
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N64 was a good system. Nothing compared to the Playstation, but good nonetheless... And nobody give me any of that "It\'s only good games are Goldeneye and Zelda" crap, I\'m so sick of idiots saying that. I have 35 Playstation games and 32 N64 games, so I know what I\'m talking about.
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I thought nintendo went downhill after SNES. :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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the n64 was a piece of crap...for a 64 bit machine, it looked like ass compared to the psx...disgusting low resolution, the framerate was horrendous, rarely would a game maintain a steady 30 (most games were running way below that except for fzero)..the textures were blurry as FUKK, and the audio was terrible...but what can you expect from a cartridge nowadays?
oh yeah, did i fail to mention how blocky the games were ???
but that was just graphically...
gamewise it proved that nintendo was a kiddie company...since they didnt have the 3rd party suppost from the snes, they were helpless and the world got to see who nintendo really was as a developer...seems that with all the kickass games the snes had due to 3rd party support, nintendo never really got accused for being kiddie, except for that rediculous MK1 censorship.
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Apparently Lestat has an incredibly small penis...
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Originally posted by Delphian
Apparently Lestat has an incredibly small penis...
wanna blow me?
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Get a room you two!
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Originally posted by lestat
wanna blow me?
Not really, but I know of a few Scandinavian whores who might be so inclined...
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hahaha.
Go look at Perfect Dark, it looks better than any PSX game, IMO. and the textures are really clean, for N64, PSX, SS, etc.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by Delphian
Apparently Lestat has an incredibly small penis...
Best. Insult. Ever. I\'m not being sarcastic either, that was timed to perfection. I love you.
But seriously lestat, you\'ve said nothing to justify yourself except for a bunch of random Nintendo bashes. Pull yourself together.
As for the PSX looing a lot better than the N64 argument...please. Go look at a PSX game because I just can\'t stand all the horrible aliasing. Even the blindest PSX fan can even admit it. The issue is dead, leave it alone. You may not have liked the system for reasons I don\'t care about but stop spewing BS about it please. It\'s not good being known as a major fanboy when you constantly create anti-Nintendo topics. Just a hint.
Anyways, what\'s up with all the anti-Nintendo topics lately? "Luigi\'s Mansion\'s music sucks, Nintendo\'s going downhill, I wish my momy still breat fed me",etc etc. Well that\'s about to change since I have returned. :)
have had every nintendo system until the gba.i was gonna get a gamecube but i got a ps2 instead and im glad because they have nothing but crap anymore. their best games they seem too be messing up zelda metroid and mario.luigis mansion is supposed too suck.back in the old days they had bad ass games now their for (toddlers)
Name these bad ass games.
I spare you the humiliation of being wrong here since Nintendo\'s games have always been the same. Not for kiddies like so many of you blind fanboys say, but for everyone. Some people may not like them for their more younger comedic sides, but those people are the same people who think FFVII is the best game ever; dumb asses. Some call growing up, I just call it being ignorant.
topic I Wish NINTENDO was like they used too be
what you mean Successful ?
:laughing::laughing::laughing:
I wish you would realize someday how NOT funny you are.
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Originally posted by lestat
the n64 was a piece of crap...for a 64 bit machine, it looked like ass compared to the psx...disgusting low resolution, the framerate was horrendous, rarely would a game maintain a steady 30 (most games were running way below that except for fzero)..the textures were blurry as FUKK, and the audio was terrible...but what can you expect from a cartridge nowadays?
oh yeah, did i fail to mention how blocky the games were ???
but that was just graphically...
gamewise it proved that nintendo was a kiddie company...since they didnt have the 3rd party suppost from the snes, they were helpless and the world got to see who nintendo really was as a developer...seems that with all the kickass games the snes had due to 3rd party support, nintendo never really got accused for being kiddie, except for that rediculous MK1 censorship.
Thats one thing I like about lestat he speaks the truth and the whole truth. N64 was crap for all those reason he said. :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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goku: yeah the psx was aliased as hell and at times pixelated, but i swallowed it because atleast the psx gave us more polygons with better textures, higher framerates and cd audio..not to mention 3rd party titles...something the n64 knew nothing about.
but whatever, that war is over...
and you shouldnt call anyone a fanboy jumpman cause everyone knows that you are the biggest nintendo fanboy here...
im not a sony fanboy at all, but ive become anti-nintendo since the n64 came out and i will remain this way unless nintendo shuts me up with their gamecube, and so far, from what ive seen, its not coming close to impressing me....
ill tip my hat to capcom for the RE remake but nintendo titles still are lame to me...
good to have you back jumpman, i hate you, but i love arguing with you.....sometimes.
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goku: yeah the psx was aliased as hell and at times pixelated, but i swallowed it because atleast the psx gave us more polygons with better textures, higher framerates and cd audio..not to mention 3rd party titles...something the n64 knew nothing about.
There you go again. Bringing a totally irrelevant issue into the argument. Way to go.
but whatever, that war is over...
Good work Homes! At last you\'ve actually figured out when it was a good time to shut your mouth because you\'re so horribly wrong.
and you shouldnt call anyone a fanboy jumpman cause everyone knows that you are the biggest nintendo fanboy here...
Who is this "everyone" you speak of? You, raslant, that C2X guy. Since three people is everyone, then by your logic, the entire universe thinks you\'re a moron.
Gotta love how I can easily manipulate your words.
im not a sony fanboy at all, but ive become anti-nintendo since the n64 came out and i will remain this way unless nintendo shuts me up with their gamecube, and so far, from what ive seen, its not coming close to impressing me....
I don\'t recall calling you a Sony fanboy so stop bringing irrelevant issues into this argument. I called you a fanboy, which you are. Anyone who\'s anti-any console is a fanboy. Do I have to elaborate for you some more?
ill tip my hat to capcom for the RE remake but nintendo titles still are lame to me...
I really don\'t care.
good to have you back jumpman, i hate you, but i love arguing with you.....sometimes.
I love you all the time baby. You and raslant are my lovers. I love doing it with you.
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yeah but i still hate you.
and i laugh at your replies because theyre long...i usually scroll down in amusement at how long it is and how many sentences you quoted me on....and then i contemplate on whether or not is worth reading it...depends if im in need of a good laugh which tonight its been worth it...
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Like always jumpman to nintendo\'s defend again. Lestat does have some good points about n64 sucking. Hey jumpman I bet you actually believe n64 has some good fighting games too don\'t you. Stupid nintendo fanboy.........: No wonder you were banned.thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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dont flame rastalant.
I still think Perfect Dark looks better than any other shooter of it\'s era. Conker\'s Bad Fur Day, while not y type of game, could\'ve easily passed for a DC launch game if it had a higher rez. The game is beautiful.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by lestat
the n64 was a piece of crap...for a 64 bit machine, it looked like ass compared to the psx...disgusting low resolution, the framerate was horrendous, rarely would a game maintain a steady 30 (most games were running way below that except for fzero)..the textures were blurry as FUKK, and the audio was terrible...but what can you expect from a cartridge nowadays?
oh yeah, did i fail to mention how blocky the games were ???
but that was just graphically...
gamewise it proved that nintendo was a kiddie company...since they didnt have the 3rd party suppost from the snes, they were helpless and the world got to see who nintendo really was as a developer...seems that with all the kickass games the snes had due to 3rd party support, nintendo never really got accused for being kiddie, except for that rediculous MK1 censorship.
Would somebody please shut this guy up.
Now back to the topic. "Laughs at oosevens statement":laughing:
I mean nintendo still puts out the same kind of games they did in the 80\'s they just are not number 1. Maybe you should have said I wish nintendo would evolve with the times.
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Would somebody please shut this guy up.
Why? Because he\'s bashing the pathetic system that was the N64? Ah you people crack me up.
/ dm /
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quote:by jumpman errr sorry GOKU
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I wish you would realize someday how NOT funny you are.
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hey everyone Jumpman is back with a New name, careful it wont take long for the great hairy one to ban you again.
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oh and by the way i was serious when i say Successful, remember Nintendo Failed with the 64.
They failed to destroy the PSX
They failed even more when the Dreamcast was launched.
and now they have a lot of work to do with the GC to make anything like the golden age, (the last time they did that was with the Super Nintendo !)
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kids kids kids...
Keep on keeping on.. Ohh and i\'m allowing ANY flaming in this thread.. Why cause i do not care. :)
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Actually, if you consider the fact that the real goals of any system are to just become profitable and to stay that way during the course of its lifespan, then the N64 was a massive success.
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Ignore Lestat, all he does is go around preaching his anti-Nintendo crap..
On related note; Nintendo has never changed. They have always been the same .. Yes, they made some bad choices system wise (n64) but Nintendo, as a company and their demographic plans have never changed. You changed, you grew up. Nintendo not appealing to you now is no different than how some Disney cartoons no longer appeal to me, now that I\'ve grown up. Apparently some of you can\'t expect it though (Lestat,etc) ..My advice is, if you are so upset about it, call a therapist, take some valium and find some games that do suit you.
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funny how i didnt even start this thread and you still have to come and include me in your dumbass post...
i havent read any post from you in the last week that didnt include me or was directed at me....
get over me already will ya?
its pathetic...and you\'re pathetic..
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Originally posted by lestat
funny how i didnt even start this thread and you still have to come and include me in your dumbass post...
i havent read any post from you in the last week that didnt include me or was directed at me....
get over me already will ya?
its pathetic...and you\'re pathetic..
Well, if someone else came around and spread as much sh!t as you that is Anti-NIntendo, I would use them as an example, does that make you feel any better? Don\'t feel special.
I done the same with SegaCultX and his anti-Sony crap...same with N-Player durin\' his anti-MS phase.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Well, if someone else came around and spread as much sh!t as you that is Anti-NIntendo, I would use them as an example, does that make you feel any better? Don\'t feel special.
I done the same with SegaCultX and his anti-Sony crap...same with N-Player durin\' his anti-MS phase.
thats fine, but its funny how i didnt even start this thread and the only reason i went off on the n64 was because someone posted how great that system was and how many good games it had, which, if youre smart, you\'ll know that system was a piece of sh!t....but im yet to hear you admit it, and you dont because youre either blind, a fanboy, or you just like to be my rival...and the same goes for anyone who thinks the n64 was a good console.
theres lots of smart people here that are aware of how crappy that system was and arent afraid to admit it, such as rastalant and datamage and MM, etc... but when they do, i take the heat for their honesty....if you all look at me as the leader of the anti-nintendo cult, fine by me.......
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Originally posted by lestat
theres lots of smart people here that are aware of how crappy that system was and arent afraid to admit it
HA HA HA! Now that is funny! Not afraid to admit their dislike for a Nintendo console in what, this PS2 forum? Lord knows this place is packed to the brim with Nintendo fanboys who would eat them alive. It\'s more like people like myself who aren\'t afraid to defend a Nintendo console in here against the likes of people like you.
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Originally posted by Delphian
HA HA HA! Now that is funny! Not afraid to admit their dislike for a Nintendo console in what, this PS2 forum? Lord knows this place is packed to the brim with Nintendo fanboys who would eat them alive. It\'s more like people like myself who aren\'t afraid to defend a Nintendo console in here against the likes of people like you.
but how in the hell can u defend a console like the n64...under what grounds...what could you possibly say that\'\'ll justify the blurriness, fogginess, low rez, low frame rate, and cheap audio that the almighty \'64 bit machine\' 93 mhz system gave us?
its no wonder why 3rd party companies didnt support it...
cause it sucked!...thats why.
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What games have you been playing? I have the number of a good eye doctor if you\'d like me to give it to you.
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Originally posted by Delphian
What games have you been playing? I have the number of a good eye doctor if you\'d like me to give it to you.
what for?
youre the one that may need to get your eyes examined if you cant see the n64\'s poor graphical performance....
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The N64 wasn\'t that great, but there was some great games .. Mario64, Perfect Dark, Blast Corps and others.
It wasn\'t a great system by no means, but the thread is about how Nintendo "changed" - when infact, they never did. People just grew up, nothing more.
its no wonder why 3rd party companies didnt support it...
cause it sucked!...thats why.
Actually, NIntendo third party support was extremely low due to the cartridge format. And while you may say the N64 "sucked", sales wise, it was a mass success for Nintendo.
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Actually, NIntendo third party support was extremely low due to the cartridge format. And while you may say the N64 "sucked", sales wise, it was a mass success for Nintendo. [/B]
the n64 was not a success in japan, it did well in the states, but with the poor sales of japan, you cant say it was a true success...
success was the gameboy which destroyed the n64 in sales, in fact, id go as far as saying that if it werent for the gameboy and gameboy color, nintendo would be out of business...
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Hey lestat, are you also tired of LIC bashing you?
So am I, if someone like him has to insult you then you know you\'re pathetic.
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Look up.
No baka, not at Goku\'s post, at the little bold letterin at the top of MY post.
Got you didn\'t I.
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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Originally posted by datamage
Why? Because he\'s bashing the pathetic system that was the N64? Ah you people crack me up.
/ dm /
Um...opinion? Next time use your brain before you post.
(just had to get you back for the other topic, now we\'re even)
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Originally posted by Goku
Um...opinion? Next time use your brain before you post.
(just had to get you back for the other topic, now we\'re even)
he is using his brain....which is why his post is correct...why dont you try using YOUR brain sometime???...oh yeah i forgot...your pro nintendo, in other words, mindless.
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Originally posted by lestat
he is using his brain....which is why his post is correct...why dont you try using YOUR brain sometime???...oh yeah i forgot...your pro nintendo, in other words, mindless.
Man, stop being a child. You don\'t repeat what someone says and use it on them without anything credible to justify yourself.
Pro-Nintendo=mindless? No. I suppose everyone who supports Nintendo is mindless as one. :rolleyes:
Hypocrite.
Anti-Nintendo/Sony/MS=mindless. Thankfully I don\'t fall into any of those catagories. Way to make yourself look bad again, in other words, like an idiot. :)
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Originally posted by Goku
Anti-Nintendo/Sony/MS=mindless. Thankfully I don\'t fall into any of those catagories. Way to make yourself look bad again, in other words, like an idiot. :)
no but you fall under the category of "anti-logic and/or common sense"
Originally posted by Goku
Next time use your brain before you post.
ok jackass, and you justified yourself here how?
practice what you preach why dont you?
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yeah, N64 games sure do look horrible! :rolleyes: I would rather play with a little blur than jag fever.
You guys are pathetic, N64 has a better great to crap ratio than PSX had.
Conker\'s Bad Fur Day, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, F-Zero-X, Resident Evil 2, Mario 64, Rogue Squadron, Banjo Tooie, DKC, Star Wars Racer, Sin and Punishment (one of the best shooters ever), etc.
So there are less games on N64, so what, there are fewer trash games like Barbie\'s Racer and Teletubbies Adventure. Lose the "it\'s not cool to play Nintendo cause they target younger people" image and you will realize they make great games. I don\'t even like Nintendo and I have to defend them against you ignorant pricks.
Eric Jacob
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yeah, N64 games sure do look horrible! I would rather play with a little blur than jag fever
actually, I\'d take Gran Turismo\'s, MGS, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Need for Speed, Silent Hill, Final Fantasy, Tekken, Crash Style >>jagged<< graphics anyday before playing N64, which apparently had those superior graphics every fanboy kept talking about. Post as many screens as you want - I\'ve played N64 enough to say that the graphics are crap with a few exceptions here and there. I call PSX graphics, although jagged as hell, better than N64\'s graphics any day.
You guys are pathetic, N64 has a better great to crap ratio than PSX had.
Of course it has. How many games are there on N64? Now, count all the good ones. Now, count all the games PSX has, and then count all the good ones aswell. Of course, you will have the better ratio on N64 (logical conclusion:10 good games out of 100 equals better ratio than 50 good games out of 4000, right?). But would you rather have only 10 good games, or 50 games (including one out of every category; jump n\'run, survival, adventure, espionage, racing, beat em up, rpg, simulation, fps etc)?
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N64 has alot more than 100 games, and alot better ratio than 1:10.
PSx has alot les games than 4000, and alot better (but not nearly as good as N64\'s) ratio than 1:80, more like 1:25.
Eric Jacob
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I was exagerating. And even if N64 had more games, I can\'t get a ratio anything better than 1 out of 10.
The point I was trying to make, is that regardless of how good the ratio on either system is, you\'ll find more better games with more variety on PSX than on the N64.
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Originally posted by lestat
but how in the hell can u defend a console like the n64...under what grounds...what could you possibly say that\'\'ll justify the blurriness, fogginess, low rez, low frame rate, and cheap audio
Funny, I missed Blurriness 64. Fogniess 64 wasn\'t in my game library, either. Low Rez 64? Low Frame Rate 64? Missed those, too. Hell, I\'ve never even heard of Cheap Audio 64!
What\'s that? They\'re not actual games?
Well that\'s your problem, you forgot to play the games. Maybe if you picked up Super Mario 64, Wave Race 64, Mario Kart 64, Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, WWF No Mercy, Banjo-Tooie, Goldeneye: 007, Paper Mario, Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Conker\'s Bad Fur Day, Perfect Dark, Mischief Makers, Blast Corps, F-Zero X, Excitebike 64, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, Harvest Moon 64, Jet Force Gemini, Resident Evil 2, Diddy Kong Racing, Tony Hawk\'s Pro Skater 2, Mario Tennis, International Superstar Soccer, Mystical Ninja: Starring Goemon, WCW/nWo Revenge, Pilotwings 64, Banjo-Kazooie, Tetrisphere, Star Fox 64, Zelda: Majora\'s Mask, Sin and Punishment, All-Star Baseball 2000, or any number of other fun games, you wouldn\'t ask such a dumb question.
-Eik
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Originally posted by lestat
no but you fall under the category of "anti-logic and/or common sense"
Um, after constantly insulting you I\'d think you learn a few things or two. Apparently they\'re just deducing your intellect each time.
Sorry, but without a plausible(sensable, correct, synonyms just incase you skip that word) explanation, that statement makes you look like a total retard. If you are going to say someone\'s wrong without any proof to back yourself up then in actuality you\'re the one who\'s looking stupid. I now you like to defy logic alot, but that\'s a fact.
Originally posted by Goku
Next time use your brain before you post.
ok jackass, and you justified yourself here how?
practice what you preach why dont you?
I justify myself by telling him that was an opinion by writing "Um... opinion". If you had any reading comprehension skills then you would of known that but alas you don\'t obviously.
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Originally posted by Goku
I justify myself by telling him that was an opinion by writing "Um... opinion". If you had any reading comprehension skills then you would of known that but alas you don\'t obviously.
you still havent justified yourself jacknut...just cause he stated his opinion doesnt mean he\'s not using his brain...this whole forum is full of no brainers then, because everyone states there opinion...only fact here is that your a fukkin idiot....
so YOU\'RE the one looking like a total retard...
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
Funny, I missed Blurriness 64. Fogniess 64 wasn\'t in my game library, either. Low Rez 64? Low Frame Rate 64? Missed those, too. Hell, I\'ve never even heard of Cheap Audio 64!
What\'s that? They\'re not actual games?
Well that\'s your problem, you forgot to play the games. Maybe if you picked up Super Mario 64, Wave Race 64, Mario Kart 64, Turok: Dinosaur Hunter, WWF No Mercy, Banjo-Tooie, Goldeneye: 007, Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Conker\'s Bad Fur Day, Perfect Dark, Mischief Makers, Blast Corps, F-Zero X, Excitebike 64, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, Harvest Moon 64, Jet Force Gemini, Resident Evil 2, Diddy Kong Racing, Tony Hawk\'s Pro Skater 2, Mario Tennis, International Superstar Soccer, Mystical Ninja: Starring Goemon, WCW/nWo Revenge, Pilotwings 64, Banjo-Kazooie, Tetrisphere, Star Fox 64, Zelda: Majora\'s Mask, Sin and Punishment, All-Star Baseball 2000, or any number of other fine games, you wouldn\'t ask such a dumb question.
-Eik
not interested in playing crappy looking games on what was supposed to be a nex gen console back in its day...yes im a graphics whore...oh well...i expect good graphics nowadays, for that they couldve stayed with their nes and snes...a game that looks like ass like most of the n64 games, arent fun to me....how can u have fun playing a 3d game that chokes?..how can u enjoy running in a 3d world and the framerate chops and the game slows down?..lol and the n64 was 93mhz and it had mad slow down....but i guess you losers hide behind the statement \'its all about the gameplay\' because youre fu(king blind and ignorant and have no idea what the difference is between a sharp texture and a blurry one, a solid smooth framerate and a choppy one, high rez and low rez or cd quality audio and cheap ass cartridge audio....pathetic....but hey i dont feel bad..i returned my n64 and got my money back and invested on a psx which, besides its jagginess, it gave me cd audio, better frame rates, higher polygons, and an arsenal of games including 3rd party support...something the n64 was lacking.
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Your only going to respond to that part of my post? Tisk tisk.
Originally posted by lestat
you still havent justified yourself jacknut...just cause he stated his opinion doesnt mean he\'s not using his brain...this whole forum is full of no brainers then, because everyone states there opinion...only fact here is that your a fukkin idiot....
so YOU\'RE the one looking like a total retard...
You imbecile, he stated his opinion like fact(about the N64 in case you forgot already) and I pointed that out. You see, datamage is smart enough to realize what he just said and say "yeah I should of said that was my opinion not an actual fact". I said something like that to him before like "forget to add IMO and he corrected himself". But of course, you are not smart enough to realize what was wrong with what he said. Thus, making yourself look like a total retard, again.
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Originally posted by lestat
jacknut. your a fukkin idiot. YOU\'RE the total retard.
I\'d like to post a counterpoint to what you\'ve posted here, but you forgot to have a point to begin with.
It\'s OK, I\'m going to help you focus. Here\'s a link http://194.47.16.181/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=180231&t=2698#post180231 that should help you focus a bit more. And I\'ll be honest, I\'m interested to see your, as always, unbiased reaction.
-Eik
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Originally posted by Goku
Your only going to respond to that part of my post? Tisk tisk.
my bad, i dont quote every sentence like you do...sorry...i was regulating a blind n64 defender...and i took too long to reply to your never ending wars of hatred...
hey btw, were you actually banned or did you just want to start a new account here?
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
It\'s OK, I\'m going to help you focus. Here\'s a link http://194.47.16.181/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=180231&t=2698#post180231 that should help you focus a bit more. And I\'ll be honest, I\'m interested to see your, as always, unbiased reaction.
-Eik
buddy...why are you posting your same post?
c\'mon, should i make a link to my last post too?
focus is something nintendo shouldve learned how to do while developing for the n64 cause that piece of sheeat was completely out of focus. :)
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
You guys are pathetic, N64 has a better great to crap ratio than PSX had.
Conker\'s Bad Fur Day, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, F-Zero-X, Resident Evil 2, Mario 64, Rogue Squadron, Banjo Tooie, DKC, Star Wars Racer, Sin and Punishment (one of the best shooters ever), etc.
So there are less games on N64, so what, there are fewer trash games like Barbie\'s Racer and Teletubbies Adventure. Lose the "it\'s not cool to play Nintendo cause they target younger people" image and you will realize they make great games. I don\'t even like Nintendo and I have to defend them against you ignorant pricks.
Eric Jacob
Think of it this way, PSX offered more games, but also more variety of games, even though N64 had a better great to crap ratio, that doesnt make it any better of a system, even if PSX had millions of ****ty games it still had more great games
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Originally posted by lestat
my bad, i dont quote every sentence like you do...sorry...i was regulating a blind n64 defender...and i took too long to reply to your never ending wars of hatred...
Every sentence? If you would write properly then I wouldn\'t have to all the time, moron. And please, for the love of god PLEASE don\'t make me explain how to write properly.
Eikserf=very intelligent man. Blind or ignorant he is not. Have seen him post at CC and here. Good poster he is. Regulating you were not.
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lets knock off with the name calling
debate the topic to kingdom come but don\'t go attacking each other
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There\'s a road-block with that D.D.
Every time I try to debate either him or raslant, they admidiately respond with this "Jumpman your a fanboy" nonesense and this drags on and ignore the initial argument. They say it\'s too long, but that\'s not a plausible excuse.
Since I\'m feeling mature tonight, this will also be my last post in this thread involving lestat..
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please give me an example of a good company making a bad game on N64 that "chokes" you call it, with tons of fog and blurry, yuo seem to think that every game on N64 looks like that. Give me 5, no I will make it "easy" give me 3, that you have played.
Bozco - you have a good point, but is it not a good sysem to own? I don\'t know of any FPS, barring MoH on PSX, that matches Perfect Dark,a nd I bashed it too in the best graphics thread and played it, and guess what, I liked it. The platformers are without equal, Pokemon is addictive as hell, no sane person (after dropping the ego) could deny that,, great FPS, etc. PSX is way better, I am not rying to say it isn\'t, but N64 has MANY great games.
but I guess everyone that likes Nintendo or N64, ie: someone who plays games, is a stupid fanboy to lestat. :rolleyes:
Eric Jacob
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ohhhh, and lestat, if you are such a graphics whore, why don\'t you want a GC or X-Box, because Rogue Squadron and the new SWAT game look better than anything I have seen on PS2. Oh...it only works when it is Nintendo v. Sony?
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by Goku
There\'s a road-block with that D.D.
Every time I try to debate either him or raslant, they admidiately respond with this "Jumpman your a fanboy" nonesense and this drags on and ignore the initial argument. They say it\'s too long, but that\'s not a plausible excuse.
Since I\'m feeling mature tonight, this will also be my last post in this thread involving lestat..
There is a simple solution to this Goku, ignore what they say. Every night will be the same if you don\'t be the bigger man and not get involved.
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
please give me an example of a good company making a bad game on N64 that "chokes" you call it, with tons of fog and blurry, yuo seem to think that every game on N64 looks like that. Give me 5, no I will make it "easy" give me 3, that you have played.
lets see....
1. castelvania64 (i cant believe konami made this game on this system)
2. the sequel to castlevania 64 (2 wrongs dont make a right)
3. turok 64
4. goldeneye
5. mariokart 64
oh yeah ...you wanted 3..but it was easy giving you 5...
i played more games, but these stand out in terms of chocking framerates, foggy backgrounds, and blurry textures.
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Originally posted by IronFist
There is a simple solution to this Goku, ignore what they say. Every night will be the same if you don\'t be the bigger man and not get involved.
ahh c\'mon now..you\'re telling jumpman to be the bigger man?
how can u tell him to ignore us when he\'s the one that starts ruckuss?
youve been here long enough, you know jumpman\'s the little one that likes to argue and flame....rastalant is a good poster here and always finds good info on the net for all consoles, why he gets involved with jumpman beats me...
i, on the other hand, just do it cause i get a kick out of it...
jumpman likes to flame, and he met his match in Lestat.
it\'s on now baby.
:evil: :evil: :evil:
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Gamespot scores:
C64 - 8.2
c64:2 - 7.3
turok - 8.1
goldeneye - 9.8
mario party - 7.2
Mario 64 wasn\'t on there, but hmmmmm, you, arguably the worst anti-Nintendo fanboy on this site says all these graphics and games suck, but they are above average in all respects. hmmmm, who to believe. I don\'t think you have even played some of these games, Goldeneye is held by many as the best console FPS ever, and Mario 64, which probably got an 8 or 9 something, as the best platformer of all time.
that was just sad.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by lestat
3. turok 64
4. goldeneye
5. mariokart 64
these stand out in terms of chocking framerates, foggy backgrounds, and blurry textures.
I\'ve played three of those five titles and I can firmly say that three of those five titles are AAA games.
If you\'re trying to say that N64 isn\'t perfect, don\'t bother, everyone knows that.
If you\'re trying to say that N64 isn\'t a good gaming machine, don\'t bother, you\'re wrong. ... OK, fine, it is your opinion, but if you have any "common taste" in video games, then you\'re still wrong. ;]
By "common taste" I mean that millions of gamers have purchased Turok, Goldeneye, and Mario Kart, but only a select few have complained.
-Eik
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Bozco - you have a good point, but is it not a good sysem to own? I don\'t know of any FPS, barring MoH on PSX, that matches Perfect Dark,a nd I bashed it too in the best graphics thread and played it, and guess what, I liked it. The platformers are without equal, Pokemon is addictive as hell, no sane person (after dropping the ego) could deny that,, great FPS, etc. PSX is way better, I am not rying to say it isn\'t, but N64 has MANY great games.
Yeah, I agree with you on all of this, hell the top 3 FPS on the N64 were all better than the best one on the PSX, I remember huddling around a 20 inch tv playing 4 player bond with all my friends, just wishing that I bought an N64 instead of a PSX, in the end I liked the choice of the PSX more but I still loved the N64
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Gamespot scores:
C64 - 8.2
c64:2 - 7.3
turok - 8.1
goldeneye - 9.8
mario party - 7.2
oh so, if gamespot says its good, then it must be good.
remember, those companies score them based on the systems potential ( i hope )
goldeneye was considered one of the best n64 games prolly because those people have never played games like half -life or quake or any other FPS on a PC and to them goldeneye is something amazing...
i score games or judge games based on the competition....and when you compare goldeneye to a pc FPS, it looses in all respects...and when you compare the n64\'s polygon count, textures, framerate and audio with the psx, it looses the battle again.
i loved mario 64, but i cant deny the fact that it was a blocky game with one or 2 enemies per screen if even..im sure zelda was amazing and i know the gameplay was cool cause i played it for a while, but graphically i couldnt stand it....and thats all im saying...whether or not you like nintendo\'s games is up to you, but the graphics were disgustingly below average.
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Originally posted by lestat
oh so, if gamespot says its good, then it must be good.
remember, those companies score them based on the systems potential ( i hope )
goldeneye was considered one of the best n64 games prolly because those people have never played games like half -life or quake or any other FPS on a PC and to them goldeneye is something amazing...
How dare you even question goldeneye, you do mention Half-Life but then again its considered by most to be the best FPS ever so Goldeneye isnt expected to be as good, but quake on the other hand, Goldeneye was way more fun and the A.I. and gameplay was way better, there isnt many FPS on the PC with a better single player mode than Goldeneye
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Originally posted by Bozco
How dare you even question goldeneye, you do mention Half-Life but then again its considered by most to be the best FPS ever so Goldeneye isnt expected to be as good, but quake on the other hand, Goldeneye was way more fun and the A.I. and gameplay was way better, there isnt many FPS on the PC with a better single player mode than Goldeneye
i havent played many single players on the PC cause multiplayer ownz..but goldeneye doesnt touch half-life.
besides, once again, im referring to graphics not story or gameplay cause that all opinion based...
graphics is what im referring to...graphically goldeneye sucks compared to ANY pc FPS...specially if you have a fast pc with a kickass graphix card...
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Originally posted by lestat
i loved mario 64
If you loved it, what are you complaining for? Games are not about blockiness (it did come out in 1996; you know that, right?), they\'re about fun.
If you\'re so obsessed about graphics, rent a movie.
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besides, once again, im referring to graphics not story or gameplay cause that all opinion based...
graphics is what im referring to...graphically goldeneye sucks compared to ANY pc FPS.
Well at least now you\'ve revised your arguement from [judging an entire software library\'s quality based on graphics] to [judging only its graphics].
Of course the comparison you make is shaky at best. Comparing aging, 6 year old hardware to expensive, state-of-the-art, cutting-edge technology isn\'t exactly a fair shake.
"Lump" was a 1980s FPS I had for a computer that didn\'t even have a harddrive. The corridors were geometry filled in with one color, as were the enemies. The weapon was a knife that was basically a red, upside-down cross. At the time it was pretty, but compared to Halo it looks like crap.
Stupid comparison? Stupid to compare old technology with new? ... That\'s what I\'m trying to show you.
And by the way, since Lump happens to be part of the "ANY pc FPS" group, it kind of makes your other statement invalid, doesn\'t it? Saying what you mean (Half-life is prettier than Goldeneye) will save you a lot less back-peddling.
-Eik
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Originally posted by lestat
ahh c\'mon now..you\'re telling jumpman to be the bigger man?
how can u tell him to ignore us when he\'s the one that starts ruckuss?
youve been here long enough, you know jumpman\'s the little one that likes to argue and flame....rastalant is a good poster here and always finds good info on the net for all consoles, why he gets involved with jumpman beats me...
i, on the other hand, just do it cause i get a kick out of it...
jumpman likes to flame, and he met his match in Lestat.
it\'s on now baby.
:evil: :evil: :evil:
The only reason I said it was to try and stop all this flaming. I don\'t care who stops first as long as it stops. It\'s nice to be able to read through a thread without a huge battle between you and Rastalant against Goku.
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- Hello, Jumpy, nice to have ya\' back. ;)
- For all you complaining about the N64, no it wasn\'t the greatest console ever. However, it still had quite a few great games. I won\'t go naming everyone of them again, as most of them have been named already (\'cept BLAST CORPS .
- I think this topic could be summed down to people who complain about graphics and ignore good gameplay (Wave to the nice people, Lestat)...Then people who prefer ****ty games with great graphics (HELLO? The Bouncer?). If you ignore great gameplay , because the graphics don\'t suit you, then you are a total idiot. That is your choice though. Just don\'t whine about how a system sucked, when you ignored it.
- Like Eiksirf said, you are comparing a six year old game to current technology . Gee, do we see a problem with this? Of course Goldeneye or even Perfect Dark look like crap compared to per say, Half-Life or Unreal. Get a clue...:rolleyes: And even if you was comparing six year old technology (N64) to six year old PC technology, the PC would of still out-preformed the N64, for the simple fact, six years ago the PC industry was rapid moving and constantly updating. Anyone remember QUAKE?
- If you want to argue about how system A looked worse than system B or so on. Then by all means, lets also argue about the fact that the PSX looked like crap doin\' 2D compared to the Saturn. Do I need to remind you about the great Capcom fighters on the Saturn, that wasn\'t so great when they made it over to the PSX ( Capcom : I\'m sorry , we\'ll have to cut that tag team action out of the VS series, PS owners..) ? Point being, each system had its strenght and weaknesses.. The PS done 2D like crap for the most part (not counting Castlevania: SOTN) and had jaggies galore, where as the N64 didn\'t have jaggies but had blurry textures.
- As I stated before, Nintendo never changed. If you out-grew their more family orrientated approach, that is fine. However, please spare us the whole crap on how Nintendo sucks and only makes "kiddie games".
- Lestat, the "sequel" Castlevania 64 game you are speaking of, is not a sequel. Infact, it is merely the original version of what Konami of America planned to release for the N64. Development problems however, made it so we got a cut down edition of Castlevania 64. Later on, Konami went back and finished the version and released it. IT has some new characters and new sitautions, but not a new game. It is merely an expansion pac of sorts. Also, it is running off the same graphics engine, so there is a reason it doesn\'t look any better. You can\'t blame the N64 for that. Blame Konami.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I won\'t go naming everyone of them again, as most of them have been named already (\'cept BLAST CORPS
Actually... I mentioned Blast Corps. :) *pats self on back*
... Mischief Makers, Blast Corps, F-Zero X ...
-Eik
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Originally posted by lestat
i havent played many single players on the PC cause multiplayer ownz..but goldeneye doesnt touch half-life.
besides, once again, im referring to graphics not story or gameplay cause that all opinion based...
graphics is what im referring to...graphically goldeneye sucks compared to ANY pc FPS...specially if you have a fast pc with a kickass graphix card...
Well I would hope new pc\'s would pass up goldeneye graphically, but like L-I-C said, wave to the nice people;)
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reasons why nintendo is dissapointing for me, call me a fanboy or not its my own opinion
blurry foggy graphics with terible framerates. Take perfect dark, try playing it and see it crawling at 10fps in single player mode, im not even mentioning multiplayer. Games such as turok, goldeneye (yes it has fog jumpman, check the Dam, Jugle, Cradle and surface stages) and other had some horrible fog, Id rather have pop up than thick fog. Blurryness was bad but could be helped by using S-video
Terrible delays, games such as zelda, perfect dark, banjo kazooie were delayed till i had no interest anymore and had moved on with psx
Horrible controller and cartrige problems. Carts just suck, they are a pain to store, clean and get em running on my system (I dont treat them like ****) The controller was great for platformers, but sucked badly for racing and fighting games. The anlogue stick was sharp and got stiff after a year of usage (I had to throw away 3 of em away).
Kiddie games, the argument is weak gc isn\'t that kiddie. However I feel that I have grown out of nintendo games. Whenever i see the new zelda It makes me angry, the game looks awefull. Other games such as smash bros (I know you all like it) kirby, pokemon turn me down because of the cute colorfull graphics and simple (sometimes fun!) gameplay.
Not enough interesting games for me, and many of em (goldeneye, Perfect dark) are overated. I like action, rgp en especially Fighting and racing games (Ridge racer doesn\'t count coz the psx version is better) The only decent fighting game there was, was KI Gold (great underrated game)
there where some great gameson n64 titles such as
Goldeneye, overrated but good
Mariokart, wasn\'t as good as the snes version but still kicked :)
Zelda the 1st one, best game ever nuff said. The 2nd one looked worse in graphic department and was boring
KI Gold, Love the game
Turok, some annoying fog, but was the best looking shooter at the time (compare it to quake!)
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
reasons why nintendo is dissapointing for me, call me a fanboy or not its my own opinion
blurry foggy graphics with terible framerates. Take perfect dark, try playing it and see it crawling at 10fps in single player mode, im not even mentioning multiplayer. Games such as turok, goldeneye (yes it has fog jumpman, check the Dam, Jugle, Cradle and surface stages) and other had some horrible fog, Id rather have pop up than thick fog. Blurryness was bad but could be helped by using S-video
Terrible delays, games such as zelda, perfect dark, banjo kazooie were delayed till i had no interest anymore and had moved on with psx
Horrible controller and cartrige problems. Carts just suck, they are a pain to store, clean and get em running on my system (I dont treat them like ****) The controller was great for platformers, but sucked badly for racing and fighting games. The anlogue stick was sharp and got stiff after a year of usage (I had to throw away 3 of em away).
Kiddie games, the argument is weak gc isn\'t that kiddie. However I feel that I have grown out of nintendo games. Whenever i see the new zelda It makes me angry, the game looks awefull. Other games such as smash bros (I know you all like it) kirby, pokemon turn me down because of the cute colorfull graphics and simple (sometimes fun!) gameplay.
Not enough interesting games for me, and many of em (goldeneye, Perfect dark) are overated. I like action, rgp en especially Fighting and racing games (Ridge racer doesn\'t count coz the psx version is better) The only decent fighting game there was, was KI Gold (great underrated game)
there where some great gameson n64 titles such as
Goldeneye, overrated but good
Mariokart, wasn\'t as good as the snes version but still kicked :)
Zelda the 1st one, best game ever nuff said. The 2nd one looked worse in graphic department and was boring
KI Gold, Love the game
Turok, some annoying fog, but was the best looking shooter at the time (compare it to quake!)
.......and that sums up what I\'ve been thinking too. I mean, just because some of us are dissappointed in the N64 and Gamecube doesn\'t make us fanboys, does it? L-I-C, you seem to have a problem with Lesat (he is stating his opinion, which I happen to agree with....so what?) and, Jumpman (if it is you)....it\'s, er, "nice" to have you back.
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yup, your a fanboy.
were you playing Perfect Dark on a N64 emu on a Pentium II or something?!!?!?
The one player mode, which rocks, runs very smooth, along with 2 player, which is what me and my friends play mot of the time, 4 player is where it chugs, and even then, you make it sound way worse than it is.
The framerate argument has gotten tired, find something new to rag on Nintendo about. and the kiddy argument is not an option.
Eric Jacob
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no I played it on my n64, maybe it was the pal conversion I dunno but it ran below 20 in single palyer mode and even worse in multiplayer
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yup, your a fanboy.
Your lame remarks don\'t help you one bit. I have played PD myself and without taking any sides in this debate, I can say that there is slowdown in single-player mode. I won\'t say any framerate numbers, but one very noticable place was in the dark level (I think second where you have to escape with the computer or what ever it is), which I remember very well. Can\'t say if it was the second level, since I myself don\'t own this game, but have played it a couple of times at my friends place.
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he said "call me a fanboy, but..."
SO I said "yup your a fanboy"
gimme abreak and take a joke.
:rolleyes:
and welcome to the board.
Eric Jacob