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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: DirectXbox on October 17, 2001, 04:19:11 AM
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Brute Force--Microsoft
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SWAT: GST--Sierra
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These are first generation Xbox games and PS2 games will NEVER reach this level of quality no matter what generation because developers are already using effects on the Xbox that the PS2 simply can\'t replicate. If you doubt that these are real-time, they are. If you notice the Brute Force pics, the models aren\'t extremely high-poly, it\'s just the self-shadowing and lighting effects that make them look CG-quality. I haven\'t seen ONE PS2 game that even attempts to look this good. This is a graphics discussion so I don\'t want any gameplay conversations. But this is a slap in the face of those in denial who say that there won\'t be a noticable difference between Xbox and PS2 games. If this isn\'t noticable, then you\'re a blatant fanboy. Thank gawd PS2 has a large user-base to protect its future, because if it didn\'t, it would be already over. It doesn\'t take a fool to realize that Sony dropped the ball hardware-wise with the PS2.
Only 6 pics max ------ ddaryl
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My god..
PS2 is FU(KED! :shy:
Oh.. And you\'ve broken the rule..
6 picture limit.. :D
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Yeah, PS2 is fncked from a graphical standpoint. But this isn\'t a "PS2 is fncked!" thread. PS2 is here to stay, there\'s no question about that, however, it will be the most graphically inferior console this generation...and by a long shot.
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I think your forgeting something here..
Learning curve using the PS2 hardware..
Developers has said its very steap..
And I think this is pretty good for a "inferior" console..
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Oh yeah.. Its made by a pritty smal Belgium developer..
Time left in development: 6 months
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Hahahahahaha!!! How did I know you were going to post that? Is that all you have? That\'s weak. Last year those graphics would have been amazing. Sorry, but Xbox has just raised the bar. The backgrounds in that pic sucks...speaking of backgrounds, where\'s the background in the first pic? Looks like a tech demo to me! Kind of like that Namco girl when the PS2 was first unvieled. Show me a screen with more than one character or object of the same detail on screen at once and I\'ll be amazed. Otherwise, it\'s nothing amazing.
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I hope those are all real-time. They look really cool. We\'ll see.
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Looks nice to me :)
Btw, those Xbox screens do look nice..
But.. the backgrounds dont look too crisp there either..
That Swat game or whatever has nice lighting..
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That redhead in the first post is BOOTYLICIOUS or my name isn\'t "Emperor-bigpenis-Rob"
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Anyone who thinks this game looks worse then anything on PS2 is ignorant,Blind, and a HUGE idiot. Sure, MGS2 might be the nicest looking PS2 game on the block, but it can\'t touch this.
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
That redhead in the first post is BOOTYLICIOUS or my name isn\'t "Emperor-bigpenis-Rob"
But your name isn\'t "Emperor-bigpenis-Rob" , and she is just a whole load of 0 and 1 on a computer SHEEEEeeeee is Not Real ROB !
Get over it !
and No making sweat love to your X box won\'t doo.....
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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well, i must say that im impressed by the lighting of the xbox according to those shots....i thought the ps2 had the best lighting effects compared to the DC and what ive seen of the gamecube...
and i say this because the ps2 lighting actually feels real..nlike the other consoles, but i have to admit that these xbox shots are looking really good and the lighting looks amazing...got to check them out in action though for the final judgment.
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I will only be impressed by any game on any system when i see it during gameplay.
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oh see, there we have that xbox fanboy who was suppoed "to come in peace":rolleyes: yeah i remeber you, you look no better than the other ones we had, you look alot like "Docwiz"
But you are right about that ps2 cannot compete with xbox graphically, just like xbox wont compete with ps2 in terms of user base. Its not all about the graphics like you xbox fans say. There is something called fun and gameplay, which I personally find lacking in most of Ms\' games.
yeah ps2 must watch out :rolleyes:
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I am not too impressed by the first lot of screens you posted, however, the SWAT game by Sierra does look very promising. Can PS2 compete? I honestly don\'t know.. these graphics presented in SWAT: GST are very good, although it\'s the lightning and great high res textures that makes this title look so good. You might deny this, but streaming textures has been the biggest problem on PS2-Hardware to date. Games like GT3, Final Fantasy X have finally gotten hold of it a little, so I think we will also see great improved in this department. At least to say, I hope we will. Seing that Outcast 2 (from a small developer) is looking this good so far and that at 60 fps is very good news for us PS2 fans. Speaking of texture detail:
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aren\'t these beautiful textures and lightning?
then, we have this \'other\' Rally game.. that africa ... game, that appearently kills GT3 graphic wise. I am too lazy to look for those first screens, but from what I have seen, texture detail and landscapes are amazing, just like in the two screens above (which represent in-game graphics, I believe). So, can the PS2 do this? I sure hope so. If games like WRC and others can look that good (with textures like that), then I don\'t see why a FPS couldn\'t.
BTW: I believe that MGS2 is first generation aswell. I\'d call GT3 second generation (since the graphics engine had been rebuilt after TGS 2000).
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MGS2 is/will be 2nd generation. A year has already passed for PS2, a year and a half for Japan. It doesn\'t matter when the graphics engine was built for it, it matters when it is released.
and GT3\'s textures suck, it\'s prowess is in it\'s precision cars and great lighting effects.
Eric Jacob
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More like the never ending story. If the last six months have taught us anything it should be you can\'t judge system power based only on screen shots. Now that everyone will soon be able to see the real deal in action on actual TVS the only real purpose pics like these serve is to gauge things like ‘should I be interested in game X\' not ‘behold the graphical superiority of console X\'. Since a couple of you characters still think screens like these weigh in as proof of something or other, I\'ll offer a few reactions to them.
I notice most of the shots are only of single figure in motion. Why are all those pics either dark, drab, or washed out, with nothing in between? Fatson posts a beautiful brightly lit Outcast2 shot and it gets labeled weak. Talk about blatant fanboys, some of you xbox fans have that label tattooed on your foreheads.
We all obviously don\'t view screens with the same attitude so what was the point starting a thread like this again? To make yourself feel better because lately xbox has disappointed some of those who have finally seen it running? Get used to it. Why bother trying to convince people that haven\'t been wowed by the xbox so far that one day they will be, it just makes the console look weaker, IMO.
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MGS2 is/will be 2nd generation. A year has already passed for PS2, a year and a half for Japan. It doesn\'t matter when the graphics engine was built for it, it matters when it is released.
where does it say that from that date on this and that game is one generation ahead? It doesn\'t make sense. It might not be based on how many titles have been developed so far, but I really doubt it that the generations are determend on when the game is released. If so, please prove me wrong.
and GT3\'s textures suck, it\'s prowess is in it\'s precision cars and great lighting effects.
no, they might suck in comparasment to games soon available on other systems, but for PS2 at the moment, I wouldn\'t say that they suck. The cars are very detailed (check the textures on the rally cars), and so are landscapes (especially Tokyo) and buildings. Good textures == good variety and good quality. GT3 might lack them in a lot of stages, but seing that Tokyo stage (so does Rockymountains) looks good, I think developer Polyphony just got lazy towards the end and that time pressure was a factor aswell.
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and GT3\'s textures suck, it\'s prowess is in it\'s precision cars and great lighting effects.
Would you say Ferrari\'s textures suck? Just curious, cause GT3 has better textures. I plopped both in to compare. GT3 doesn\'t have astounding textures, but they don\'t suck.
On topic, those graphics for the X-box look spectacular. Though if history repeats itself (IF) it won\'t affect the PS2. The most powerful system never wins the war remember? Oh well, either way, I will win the war. :D
/ dm /
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Yes, I agree too, the PS2 can\'t match xbox graphically--those are stunning. While I agree with the spirit of your post, I think you should go away because you are just a little troll that likes to show off xbox\'s pretty graphics and rub them in the faces of PS2 owners. Really, you have no real reason to be here.
I think showing GT3 as a graphical showcase isn\'t a good idea because any current system can slap a shiny texture on a blocky object (that\'s what a car is) and make it look realistic.
Outcast is a better example, but I\'m not sure about it. We know too little about that game to really say anything definite. The newer games coming out for the system are a better indication.
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I think showing GT3 as a graphical showcase isn\'t a good idea because any current system can slap a shiny texture on a blocky object (that\'s what a car is) and make it look realistic.
I am guessing that about 95% of a game is build out of "blocky objects" as you call them. GT3 has cars, SWAT: GST has walls. The only unblocky thing about FPS in comparasments to Racers are the humans. If racing games would be that simple, I think we would be seing far better stuff then we are now. BTW: I wasn\'t using GT3 as any showcase or anything, but about texture quality and how it has improved since launch. The PS2 biggest flaw (well it isn\'t, just hard to overcome) is the small VRAM, which more and more developers are slowly going around.
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Oh dear God... a more powerful console can produce better graphics??? Someone grab the kids and run! It\'s the end of the world!
*yawn*
Thank gawd PS2 has a large user-base to protect its future, because if it didn\'t, it would be already over.
Oh.. of course. I mean, it doesn\'t matter that the system has great games and an amazing lineup on the near and far horizon, right? No, that doesn\'t matter. It\'s all about graphics.
:rolleyes:
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Everyone knows Xbox will have better graphics, I mean the machine is a full year a dn1/2 older then the PS2 anything less would be a complete failure
BUT I 150% disagree with you naive assanine statement that the PS2 could never comepte with Xbox graphics. If you actually took your head out of your rectum you would easily see that a few games already do compare graphically and this is before SOny\'s performance analyzer\'s and other tools become available.
You underesimate the little black box
I guess what is really up Direct-Xlads\' ass is the fact the PS2 is doing extremly well,
None the less its good to see some intersting games coming out for Xbox that are not ports from other machines,
When are these games scheduled for release. I\'m guessing late or mid 2002
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Originally posted by datamage
Oh well, either way, I will win the war. :D
/ dm /
if history repeats itself...you will lose the war !! :laughing:
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Yeah ps2 is doomed!!!!!!! GT3 graphic suck!!!!!!!!!! Yeah whatever graphics don\'t win wars, games do. Oh yeah befor e you judge ps2 graphics you might want to look at the VF4 ps2 trailer then come back and tell ps2 graphics suck. Nice try........:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Well I agree ps2 just can\'t touch xbox graphically. Only game that comes a little close is MGS2.
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You guys under estimate the power of the black box
I do agree that Xbox games will always be better looking, but it will not be dwarfed in the way a few of you\'s deem it will.
Look at FFX, Drakan II and BG: DA those games are pretty sweet graphically and Outcast looks nice as well.
Figure on SOny\'s performance analyzer and a few other tools to make their debut in early 2002 and we will see another significant increase in the PS2 capabilities during gen 3 and 4
Also looking deeper into the PS2 tells me that its 3 processor main CPU has the ability to a few more things simulataneously then Xbox
Although Xbox\'s harddrive does offer it some intriguing extra\'s as well.
Xbox should get the majority of its power tapped easier and sooner then the PS2 obviously, so seeing these awesome XBox screens doesn\'t surprise me, but actually makes me wonder what took so long for this type of media to be shown to us.
I can\'t wait to get an Xbox.
but in all honesty its the GC that doesn\'t look so appealing
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Originally posted by ddaryl
but in all honesty its the GC that doesn\'t look so appealing
D\'oh! Right out of left field, too.
From the context I assume you mean graphically. Well I know Res Evil 1 is a rehash, but you have to admit that it\'s pretty.
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Click here for 28 RE1 (on GCN) screens (http://www.planetgamecube.com/media.cfm?action=screens&id=427)
See? GC can be visually appealing, too.
-Eik
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
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See? GC can be visually appealing, too.
-Eik
so you\'re admitting that the gamecube is not appealing in the graphical department?
good call.
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Originally posted by lestat
so you\'re admitting that the gamecube is not appealing in the graphical department?
good call.
Uh, no, I\'m admitting that it is, as evidenced by the 28 screenshots I linked to.
Bad call.
-Eik
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lestat, re-read his post? are dyslexic/blind?
Ddaryl, most likely, was talking about GC\'s graphics, and GRAPHICALLY, GC blows everything else I have seen with RS:II and RE1.
Quit being such a troll.
Eric Jacob
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Ddaryl, most likely, was talking about GC\'s graphics, and GRAPHICALLY, GC blows everything else I have seen with RS:II and RE1.
You\'ll be careful when substituting the word "blows" for "blows away," won\'t you? ;)
I\'m not as gung-ho on RS:II as everyone else. After so many good impressions, I\'ve decided to try to buy it, though. I much prefer the Starfox style of space combat. Seems much faster and focused. I also notice that enemies are weak offensively and strong defensively in the game. Basically that means, like the first one, circling back a few times in order to kill what is practically a non-threat. Hopefully there is a balance there and I\'ve just missed it so far.
Of course that\'s all in the gameplay, not the graphics. It\'s still a pretty game. I just hope it\'s a pretty good game, since it\'s beating out games like SSX: Tricky for my last dollar on launch day.
-Eik
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Originally posted by ooseven But your name isn\'t "Emperor-bigpenis-Rob" , and she is just a whole load of 0 and 1 on a computer SHEEEEeeeee is Not Real ROB !
Get over it !
and No making sweat love to your X box won\'t doo.....
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
[SIZE=8]YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF ME WHORE[/SIZE]
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Originally posted by EmperorRob
[SIZE=8]YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF ME WHORE[/SIZE]
Ok Rob if you still want to do it i just want you and the X box to have Safe Sex !
PLEASE REMEMBER TO UPPLUG HIM/HER before you hop on the good food and do the BAD THING ! ;)
1000000 vots through your willy is not very nice indeed !
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
D\'oh! Right out of left field, too.
From the context I assume you mean graphically. Well I know Res Evil 1 is a rehash, but you have to admit that it\'s pretty.
Click here for 28 RE1 (on GCN) screens (http://www.planetgamecube.com/media.cfm?action=screens&id=427)
See? GC can be visually appealing, too.
-Eik
actually no. I mean with overall game selections. GC can do great graphics, unfortunately unless you want to play Nintendo games (and I do not as do quite a few others) why waste money on a GC when there is so muchmore offered on the PS2 and Xbox.
Xbox can do better graphically then the GC and it caters to an older audience, and there are alot of older gamers these days who will be very willing to pick up a PS2 or an Xbox over GC, it has more appeal. Especially with Sega in bed with Xbox more then GC and the PS2. Almost everyday some Nintendo fan switches sides at the IGN forums.
and it is my opinion, but the PS2 has tons of awesome games, and Xbox is showing off lots of cool titles as well with a heluva alot more 3rd party support.
Alteredbeast
I\'ll take Xbox graphics of recent over anything GC by a country mile, and then some
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Originally posted by ddaryl
unfortunately unless you want to play Nintendo games (and I do not as do quite a few others) why waste money on a GC
I guess. I actually look forward to many of the Nintendo exclusives (as do quite a few others) so I\'ll spend my money on a GC.
Our opinions differ. I just wanted to share mine, too.
-Eik
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Originally posted by ddaryl
You guys under estimate the power of the black box
I do agree that Xbox games will always be better looking, but it will not be dwarfed in the way a few of you\'s deem it will.
Look at FFX, Drakan II and BG: DA those games are pretty sweet graphically and Outcast looks nice as well.
Figure on SOny\'s performance analyzer and a few other tools to make their debut in early 2002 and we will see another significant increase in the PS2 capabilities during gen 3 and 4
Also looking deeper into the PS2 tells me that its 3 processor main CPU has the ability to a few more things simulataneously then Xbox
Although Xbox\'s harddrive does offer it some intriguing extra\'s as well.
Xbox should get the majority of its power tapped easier and sooner then the PS2 obviously, so seeing these awesome XBox screens doesn\'t surprise me, but actually makes me wonder what took so long for this type of media to be shown to us.
I can\'t wait to get an Xbox.
but in all honesty its the GC that doesn\'t look so appealing
here here D man well said.
Sorry i havent reponed quicker on this due to extrem sillyness with old boy Rob.
Your right i mean i am amased with the X box Graphics and they are superb.
BUT like you said the PS2 isn\'t anywhere near at full potential !
This will take time and i have to say with every generation of new game i have the fealing that i will stick with Sony
This example in the leaps that the PS2 can do can be easily seen when we examine the progress from
Timespitters (launch game)
to Timespitters 2
another point is that this "console War" will be long and it will demand a lot form the companies involved.
And for anyone to say now that one company will dominate is clearly has there head in the sand (or some where more drak and smelly)
Sony handle well under pressure they have proved this in fighing of the SEGA SATURN , NINTENDO 64 and the DREAMCAST !
Microsoft have dominated their markets for years now and this is their first attempt in that console world.
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nyway to round off i can\'t wait for the X box to lanch in the UK.
Its not because i want one or want to see it fail !
its just that i know that Sony always deliver the goods when the compentition gets serious.
And they don\'t get much bigger than Mircosoft !
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
oh see, there we have that xbox fanboy who was suppoed "to come in peace":rolleyes: yeah i remeber you, you look no better than the other ones we had, you look alot like "Docwiz"
But you are right about that ps2 cannot compete with xbox graphically, just like xbox wont compete with ps2 in terms of user base. Its not all about the graphics like you xbox fans say. There is something called fun and gameplay, which I personally find lacking in most of Ms\' games.
yeah ps2 must watch out :rolleyes:
Well its almost one year later and the PS2 is just now getting some good games like DMC, MGS2, GT3, and ICO. It took 12 months dude. About the PS2 selling 20 million units, thats a masturbation fantasy and an ourright lie on sonys part. That doesn\'t count how many have been taken back because the PS2\'s don\'t work.
Sorry to say, Sony\'s system isn\'t great at all. Those games I listed above are the top of the line games for the PS2 and its 12 months later. At least Xbox has games out at launch that kill sony, and I think this is more than an opinion ask anyone off the street that doesn\'t care either way and they will tell you.
Nintendo is an outright disaster and thats unfortunate, they will do better next year, but RS2 is the only game worth picking up this entire year.
Xbox has DOA3, Halo, Project Gotham (GT3), Amped, and NFL Fever, which blows away PS2\'s launch with a puny Madden 2001 (which 2002 is on xbox at launch) and SSX, lets not even go there.
Give xbox the same amount of time that PS2 currently has and its a different story. I promise that when xboxes are out and available everywhere, the 12 million PS2\'s that are REALLY out there will be slowing down bigtime.
Xbox has the best launch, best hardware, best easy to use API of any Next Generation console hands down.
I don\'t want to hype the xbox up for beyond what it doesn\'t deserve but you do have to call a spade a spade here folks.
BTW, Outcast 2 is being done on the PC, so It can be done on the xbox as well, but I don\'t think all of what is shown of outcast2 to be realtime. For instance, do you see the sweat on his face in that model? Well the PS2 could do that with all the rest of the high polygon and textures but you would be running at 5 frames per second on the PS2. PS2 was not cut out for doing those kind of things in realtime. Outcast 2 will look good, I have played the first version, but it won\'t look as good as people are thinking from some of the standalone models. Xbox could handle it all in realtime though and maintain 60 frames per second.
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IMO, the PS2 graphics will only evolve more and more. If you noticed the PSX, when it first came out, the games were like the Genesis graphics. But they evolved into the terrific looking games that are out now. The PS2 graphics will match and might even beat the X-Box and GC in the years to come. Don\'t underestimate the PS2 at this point until the other systems are out to compare it to.
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Like we didnt know you would say that Docwiz, FANBOY, and you say the 12 million PS2\'s that are really out there, man your denial
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Geeze Docwhiz
You don\'t really believe what you posted
The PS2 has been pumpin out quality titles since Spring, and a few at launch ( Timesplitters, SSX, Madden, AC2, Tekken, DOA2 HC) were well worth the price of the PS2 for the majority
Onimusha, Ring of Red, Red Faction, ICO, GT3, TM:B, Star Fighter, SH2, DMC, NBA Street, Shadow of Destiny, Dark Cloud, and a dozen or 2 other games that we\'re enoyed by alot of others. Hence the 20 million PS2\'s shipped (believe it its true which is also the reason all the stores are mass loading up on PS2 stuff for the holiday season, they know what they\'ve sold in the last year)
on the Horizon: THPS3, GTA3, SSX Tricky, BG:DA, MGS2, Jak and Daxter, AC4, TS2, FFX, Maximo, Exo, Wipeout Fusion should I go on
and nothing on the Xbox blows away games on the PS2. Halo reviewed by Next gen got a 3/5 while THPS3 DMC and GTA3 all got 5/5 sure they\'ll end up on Xbox but who wants to wait to play PS2 ports on Xbox
I think XBox\'s launch is pretty good, but compared to the PS2 lineup now, it only holds a candle
Its great to be a naive fanboy who gets all pissed off at SOny\'s success but face the facts son. Sony has more games and better games this year and into next. Maybe next Christmas you\'ll have a legitiamate argument, or maybe you should just admit your very blind and ludicrous hate for SOny is causing you to not be able to think clearly
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lots of ignorant statements in here...
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That 3/5 has never been comfirmed--at least last I heard.
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Yes, yes, yes..... Of course Xbox\'s graphics look better...... Simply because they\'ve had almost 2 years to surpass ps2..... Which you notice today that computer speed almost doubles in only 6 months..... Xbox\'s had more time.... Making better graphics.
But that doesn\'t mean the PS2 can\'t compete..... I\'m quite frankly here for the games...... AND MGS2!:D
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http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/ffx/ffx_3in.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/media/news/image/ffxpaper/grotto_in.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/media/previews/image/ico/ico_104.jpg
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finalfantasy those are some nice screens but i\'ve seen better.
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:D
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Those graphics look good to me :D
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Originally posted by Titan
Those graphics look good to me :D
Yeah, so do these:
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Don\'t worry guys, PS2 CAN compete with Xbox and GC(graphically), trust me PS2 is going to be here for a long time. Beautiful graphics from here on out!!!:D Woo Hoo!!!!
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I agree with games. I still haven\'t seen a racer that looks better than gt3. :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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Originally posted by rastalant
I agree with GAMES. I still haven\'t seen a racer that looks better than gt3. :thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
I still haven\'t see an adventure game that looks better than J&D.
I\'m going to stay with PS2 this gen. I can\'t afford any more systems. Long live PS2!!!
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Originally posted by GAMES
I still haven\'t see an adventure game that looks better than J&D.
I\'m going to stay with PS2 this gen. I can\'t afford any more systems. Long live PS2!!!
Don\'t worry with gamecube you won\'t be missing much.:thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
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With the PS2 in this console war, other systems will have trouble competing with Sony
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Originally posted by rastalant
Don\'t worry with gamecube you won\'t be missing much.:thepimp: :thepimp: :thepimp:
Theres no need for you to be bashing the GC always
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I hope everyone realizes that the pics of Brute Force are actually resized from a resolution of 2596x1926 (somewhere in there).
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Originally posted by Docwiz
Well its almost one year later and the PS2 is just now getting some good games like DMC, MGS2, GT3, and ICO. It took 12 months dude. About the PS2 selling 20 million units, thats a masturbation fantasy and an ourright lie on sonys part. That doesn\'t count how many have been taken back because the PS2\'s don\'t work.
Sorry to say, Sony\'s system isn\'t great at all. Those games I listed above are the top of the line games for the PS2 and its 12 months later. At least Xbox has games out at launch that kill sony, and I think this is more than an opinion ask anyone off the street that doesn\'t care either way and they will tell you.
Nintendo is an outright disaster and thats unfortunate, they will do better next year, but RS2 is the only game worth picking up this entire year.
Xbox has DOA3, Halo, Project Gotham (GT3), Amped, and NFL Fever, which blows away PS2\'s launch with a puny Madden 2001 (which 2002 is on xbox at launch) and SSX, lets not even go there.
Give xbox the same amount of time that PS2 currently has and its a different story. I promise that when xboxes are out and available everywhere, the 12 million PS2\'s that are REALLY out there will be slowing down bigtime.
Xbox has the best launch, best hardware, best easy to use API of any Next Generation console hands down.
I don\'t want to hype the xbox up for beyond what it doesn\'t deserve but you do have to call a spade a spade here folks.
BTW, Outcast 2 is being done on the PC, so It can be done on the xbox as well, but I don\'t think all of what is shown of outcast2 to be realtime. For instance, do you see the sweat on his face in that model? Well the PS2 could do that with all the rest of the high polygon and textures but you would be running at 5 frames per second on the PS2. PS2 was not cut out for doing those kind of things in realtime. Outcast 2 will look good, I have played the first version, but it won\'t look as good as people are thinking from some of the standalone models. Xbox could handle it all in realtime though and maintain 60 frames per second.
I agree, but the PS2 fanboys that riddle these boards feel insecure about their hasty purchase of the PS2 and can\'t come to grips with the fact that their beloved console has gone from cutting-edge to obsolete in one year. If the PS2 games were great, I would have one, and it\'s as simple as that. I\'ve never owned a PSX and so naturally PS2 doesn\'t appeal to me since it has nothing but mostly PSX sequels and PC ports. That\'s what PS2 stands for: PortSequels2. But all of this is just my insignificant opinion, because like assholes, everyone has one.
The point of this post was to squash the fanboys in denial who say, "There won\'t be a noticable difference between Xbox and PS2 games, blah blah..." PS2\'s userbase is it\'s only saving grace, like I mentioned before. I\'d never buy a system for safety in numbers, I buy it for the games. Right now, Halo, NFL Fever 2002, Amped and DoA3 are the only games I want to play right now. The fact that Shenmue 2 is coming to the box is another incentive for me. Play what you like, just don\'t make up lies to support your favorite console. PS2 graphics will never catch up to the Xbox...never. Live with it and play your games.
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Originally posted by DirectXbox
I agree, but the PS2 fanboys that riddle these boards feel insecure about their hasty purchase of the PS2 and can\'t come to grips with the fact that their beloved console has gone from cutting-edge to obsolete in one year. If the PS2 games were great, I would have one, and it\'s as simple as that. I\'ve never owned a PSX and so naturally PS2 doesn\'t appeal to me since it has nothing but mostly PSX sequels and PC ports. That\'s what PS2 stands for: PortSequels2. But all of this is just my insignificant opinion, because like assholes, everyone has one.
The point of this post was to squash the fanboys in denial who say, "There won\'t be a noticable difference between Xbox and PS2 games, blah blah..." PS2\'s userbase is it\'s only saving grace, like I mentioned before. I\'d never buy a system for safety in numbers, I buy it for the games. Right now, Halo, NFL Fever 2002, Amped and DoA3 are the only games I want to play right now. The fact that Shenmue 2 is coming to the box is another incentive for me. Play what you like, just don\'t make up lies to support your favorite console. PS2 graphics will never catch up to the Xbox...never. Live with it and play your games.
You call the PS2 obsolete, once I read that I knew the rest of your post would be bull****, like I didn\'t know you were a xbox fanboy anyway. and I say there isn\'t much of a difference, I have seen the xbox in motion and it doesn\'t look that much better, your a reject thinking that it isn\'t even close, oh and two of games you want to play will be squashed by two other games, Amped won\'t be nearly as good as SSX TRICKY, and the DOA series blows **** in the gameplay department
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LMAO
Insecure ???????
If anything its Xbox fans who are obviously insecure to actually puff out their caved in chests and actually post this dribble. Especially since everyone here has now seen Xbox in motion and it comes up considerably shorter then expected. Heck I\'ve been to my local video store 1/2 dozen time in the last 10 days and everytime I\'m there I hear comments on the Xbox and everyone is losing excitement except for those who are too old to enjoy Nintendo and choose to hate Sony for whatever lame reason they can come up with (which IMO matches the lame reasons for peopel hating XBox)
Amped, NFL Fever, DOA3 are all matched or susrpassed by PS2 equivalents. Not to mention the amount of killer apps that will dominate the Holiday season
What kills me is you Xbox fanboys call yourself gamers yet you continually make up reasons to hate games on a system you are hoping will fail or not do so well for some sake of foolish fanboy pride (not that there aren\'t equal amounts of PS2 and GC fans with the same mission here and everywhere).
Xbox has its strengths, but it will never dwarf the PS2 and the PS2 is further away from Obsolete then the XBox is for numerous reasons.
Why some of you are so willing to deny yourself some of the great times that the PS2 is offering is puzzling beyond comprehension. I believe in opinion, but when the majority of the gaming masses are all praising the PS2 and all based on hands on experience its hard to take you guys seriously, and we don\'t
Sure there are sheep, but most everyone knows when they are having fun, and enjoying what they see and play. No review or mass opinion can determine that
SO DirectXbox, Docwiz and a few others you have to realize how big of a joke you areally are. Cause it is.
In the meantime I\'m sure I won\'t be too upset with your reply since my time will be occupied with GT3, DMC, GTA3, THPS3, SSX Tricky, BG: DA, MGS2, Jak and Daxter, Splashdown, and Burnout . I\'m sure you\'ll find plenty to complain about these games since this is your style
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Well put Ddaryl, well put. I like X-Box yes but these fanboys are really starting to piss me off. They try to make their console look good by puting nothing but crap on PS2 messageboards. And a lot of them are the same. Put down other consoles and praise theirs.
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The xbox is a stunning machine, it\'s just a shame they missed the boat when it came to releasing it at a reasonable price to compete in an allready difficult marketplace.
If you think that xbox will be the market leader in 2 years time then why not go and place a bet on it now? Put your money where your mouth is.
I suppose microsoft expect everyone to go out and buy an expensive tv to go with their expensive console so the graphics actually do look good and not just blurred like 85% of the owners of xbox\'s will.
I\'m going to wait two years before thinking about buying an xbox, in that time the fanboys will have pumped enough money into the machine to maybe make it a worthwhile purchase.
But this xmas I\'m going to spend my cash on lots a new games for the ps2, while the xbox boys are waiting, I\'ll be playing :D