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Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: ##RaCeR## on November 27, 2001, 03:44:48 PM
All I can say is wow, anti aliasing goes along way in XBOX games... Pitty PS2 developers can\'t seem to get it right.

Ohh well.

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Four distinctly different types of rallying, all in one game  - Race to the clouds in the Hill climb events.  Navigate rough country roads in "traditional"Rallies.  Fight for pole position in the bumper-to-bumper Rallycross and Ice racing championships.
More than 25 famous rally cars –Licensed vehicles from manufacturers like Audi, Citroen, Lancia, Ford, Subaru and Mitsubishi.  The (in)famous Group "B" cars of the 1980\'s are also included as part of this great assortment of vehicles.  
Robust Career Mode - Starting off with a limited selection of cars, you\'ll have to race to prove yourself and gain entry into the Professional-, Classic-, and ultimately, World Classic-circuits. As you race, you\'ll earn points – your key to unlocking new cars and qualifying for the upper race-circuits.  
Advanced graphics and audio -  Rallisport Challenge will show swaying trees, animated crowds, animals avoiding your car\'s path, and realistic particle effects as you run through mud, dirt, snow and water.  Damage modeling will also be incorporated.   In leveraging the audio capabilities of the Xbox, we will ensure to deliver distinctive audio effects from the actual cars.  
Multiplayer - Up to four players can compete simultaneously in a multiplayer race.  There\'s nothing like the absolute thrill of  racing head to head against your closest friends and humiliating them!  


Video HERE (http://www.xbox.com/rallisportchallenge/rallisportchallenge-0001.asx)
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Luke on November 27, 2001, 03:47:12 PM
can someone explain to me what anti aliasing is?
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: ##RaCeR## on November 27, 2001, 03:50:20 PM
Its a programming techniques to remove/soften jaggies.
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: fishpie on November 27, 2001, 04:22:11 PM
why are u bashing ps2? i thought u liked ps2?
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: ##RaCeR## on November 27, 2001, 04:31:11 PM
Fishpie, get a life.

I am just not one minded, I play games for the games, not for the creators of the console.

I love the PS2, and will probably love the XBOX too.

Oh, and by the way, the PS2 has some SERIOUS aliasing problems, its a fact.
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Kimahri on November 27, 2001, 04:45:03 PM
fishpie, i would barely call the coment racer made, bashing of the ps2, he is just stating a fact.  The ps2 has a few problems, X-box was able to fix some of these, and with the extra year they had, it would have been embarasing if they hadn\'t.
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Deadly Hamster on November 27, 2001, 04:46:45 PM
why did you bash the guy who said you bashed ps2?
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: mm on November 27, 2001, 04:46:51 PM
nice backgrounds, but something looks odd about the car

looks like its just plastered on top
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Toxical on November 27, 2001, 04:54:09 PM
picture number 3 has jaggies, the shadow ! :D
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: ##RaCeR## on November 27, 2001, 06:32:32 PM
The cars do look alittle bizarre don\'t they, but I am hopeing that these are really early screens.

Looks to be a real winner I hope. I just wish the PS2 could resolve its jaggies issues.

Does WRC have jaggies as bad as GT3 or the Wipeout Demo?
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Clyde on November 27, 2001, 07:10:32 PM
whats with the blur also?

an early, EARLY build it better be
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: SER on November 27, 2001, 09:05:34 PM
Totally awesome.. Too bad I don\'t own an Xbox though. :(
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: BizioEE on November 28, 2001, 12:56:56 AM
It\'s beautiful !
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: fastson on November 28, 2001, 04:05:38 AM
2 bad the game suxorz at this stage :)
(Yes its developed by DICE in sweden.. So gaming sities have already played a beta)
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on November 28, 2001, 04:48:13 AM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
The cars do look alittle bizarre don\'t they, but I am hopeing that these are really early screens.

Looks to be a real winner I hope. I just wish the PS2 could resolve its jaggies issues.

Does WRC have jaggies as bad as GT3 or the Wipeout Demo?


GT3 does not many have jaggies, it has 1x FSAA. Even with FSAA there is still some jaggies and flicker

quit yer whining
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: mm on November 28, 2001, 05:07:27 AM
1x FSAA?

isnt this a contradiction in terms?
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on November 28, 2001, 05:52:19 AM
Im not sure if it the same true method of 1xFSAA but it is very similar or even better to what my gf2 card achieves at 640x480
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: BigDaddy on November 28, 2001, 06:04:34 AM
Wow the wheels and tires look amazing. I hope the game play lives up to the graphics. I am with you on the game thing. I have a PS2, DC, GCN, and X box and could care less what system the game is on. :)
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: fishpie on November 28, 2001, 12:59:25 PM
lets all stop bashing things and each other, im sorry ##racer##.


btw those pics look great.
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Falgarok on November 28, 2001, 02:18:13 PM
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
GT3 does not many have jaggies, it has 1x FSAA. Even with FSAA there is still some jaggies and flicker

quit yer whining

AFAIK it doesn\'t have FSAA. They just increased the vertical resolution to get rid of the jaggies and used some mip mapping, but that doesn\'t work at all with racing games( too much small white lines).

It looks good anyway.
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: videoholic on November 28, 2001, 05:04:40 PM
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Originally posted by fishpie
lets all stop bashing things and each other, im sorry ##racer##.


btw those pics look great.


You are a kiss ass..

This is the debating forum.  If you want to yell at racer then go ahead.  Just have a backbone.

I agree with one perosn who mentioned before that the shadow has tons of jaggies in one of those pics.  

My first impression also was that the cars look plastered onto a background.  It just looks fake to me.  

Except for the first pic.  That one looks great.
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Halberto on November 28, 2001, 05:27:41 PM
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Originally posted by mm
nice backgrounds, but something looks odd about the car

looks like its just plastered on top


It\'s because there aren\'t any reflections
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Watchdog on November 28, 2001, 05:30:54 PM
The movie for this game looks amazing though.
Title: I hope you can wreck!
Post by: Mikey on November 29, 2001, 09:43:13 AM
The graphics look good but I hope they put a little more thought into gameplay and physics.  GT3, although the graphics look nice, is one of the worst driving games I\'ve ever played.  They make the cars look realistic but I don\'t call bouncing off a wall head-on at 120 MPH and sustaining no damage realistic.  If the game has graphics like this and the physics at least *resemble* the real word like Smuggler\'s Run, ATV Offroad, etc. that will be enough to get me to buy an X-Box.

Mike
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: JP on November 29, 2001, 12:30:18 PM
Racer, I think you exaggerate the jaggies in PS2 games too much. I can\'t understand why you mention it so much, I hardly ever notice them if I\'m not looking for them specifically. I think it\'s unfounded. But to each their own.
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 01, 2001, 10:50:18 PM
JP, it might be because I own a JAP PS2, and the JAP version of GT3 has major alias problems. If anyone says it doesn\'t, then you are talking utter bull.

I personally believe anti-aliasing is the KEY to creating a game that looks like FMV/CG. If jaggies are present, then its obvious that its realtime, but when jaggies are illiminated, and all edges are smooth, it trully looks different.
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on December 01, 2001, 11:25:32 PM
COLIN MCRAE FOR LIFE!!!111!!!!!
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: QuDDus on December 02, 2001, 03:00:20 PM
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Originally posted by Videoholic


You are a kiss ass..

This is the debating forum.  If you want to yell at racer then go ahead.  Just have a backbone.

I agree with one perosn who mentioned before that the shadow has tons of jaggies in one of those pics.  

My first impression also was that the cars look plastered onto a background.  It just looks fake to me.  

Except for the first pic.  That one looks great.


Don\'t you have windows to peep threw;) :D

But the pics look great I think he means a lot of ppl on this forum seem to get offended bye anything good on other systems.
Title: Absolutely STUNNING pics of XBOX Rallisport
Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 03, 2001, 03:18:07 PM
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Originally posted by QuDDus


Don\'t you have windows to peep threw;) :D

But the pics look great I think he means a lot of ppl on this forum seem to get offended bye anything good on other systems.


Thaaaankyooou.