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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: luckee on November 28, 2001, 09:44:07 AM
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In reference to the piracy thread recently closed. None of you DL mp3\'z? All of you pay for every single piece of sw? I burned close to 300 ps1 games..mainly to have as backups..some I burned to share with friends. I honestly don\'t see the big deal.
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The thing is, we can\'t be sure who\'s reading the boards. This is a pretty big site and if some important guy reads this board and see\'s how we are talking about best ways to pirate a game....than well, this site get\'s closed.
I for one am not afraid to admit that I pirate games, music and software (allthough only for personal use...honestly).
But as I said, we can\'t risk it.
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No-One....that makes more sense, thanx for taking the time to explain it to me instead of me just seeing threads on it closed time and time again.
Also, wouldnt disclaimers protect the boards from that type of thing? Or more specifically the 1st amendment(i think its the 1st)
All other boards I frequent dont have those worries which is why I asked.
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The problem is, (speaking from a web admin sense) if you have someone speaking of piracy or copy right infringement type stuff you want that no where near a serivce you are running.
Just allowing a link or someone talk about it opens you up to so much harrasment.
There are places to talk about it and places to get it, just not here.
The 1st admendment applies to the US dood, this server is not in the US...
Don\'t forget, there a lot of people on there outside of the US, and unfortuneatly the US constitution does not apply.
I can see a disclamer, but thats the admins choice. With so many corporations causing trouble, the admins don\'t need that headache for supplying us with such a great service.
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There are many places to talk about it and if the mods don\'t want to deal with it then that is their choice.
I think some of the stuff they close is a bit ridiculous, but again, that is their decision. We just need to only talk about flowers and rate my poo.
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cool kirath....thanx for not being an ass about it!!! I also wasnt aware where the server was located.
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Yeah where ever Halmstad is... Thats where the forums are located, PSX2Central.com is located somwhere else..
Gotta love the free world.. Well almost free
Here is the data as to where exactly the server is
This is also comming from the Boston Area... This route has a lot of hops, no wonder it is slow sometimes, Damn europeans can\'t route internet traffic if it hit them square in the face.. :laughing: j/k of course
traceroute 194.47.16.181
traceroute to 194.47.16.181 (194.47.16.181), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 146.115.9.2 (146.115.9.2) 1.030 ms 1.051 ms 1.232 ms
2 fe1-0-0.core1.mbo.ma.rcn.net (146.115.13.7) 0.957 ms 0.588 ms 0.567 ms
3 pos0-1.core2.sbo.ma.rcn.net (207.172.19.227) 1.572 ms 1.776 ms 1.608 ms
4 POS3-1.hsipaccess1.Boston1.Level3.net (64.156.16.5) 2.542 ms 2.177 ms 2.102 ms
5 lo0.mp1.Boston1.Level3.net (209.247.11.251) 5.510 ms 3.601 ms 2.992 ms
6 so-3-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.42) 11.508 ms 8.347 ms 7.287 ms
7 so-2-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.128.154) 72.752 ms 73.916 ms 74.111 ms
8 gigabitethernet6-1.core2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.131.116) 73.059 ms 72.731 ms 73.043 ms
9 pos2-0.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net (212.113.0.117) 73.427 ms 74.108 ms 73.312 ms
10 r13-Gi4-0.Ldn-KQ4.UK.KPNQwest.net (195.66.224.54) 83.586 ms 83.684 ms 83.444 ms
11 r4-Gi1-0-0.200.ldn-KQ4.uk.kpnqwest.net (134.222.109.242) 83.599 ms 83.925 ms 83.619 ms
12 r1-Se0-2-0.0.Ldn-KQ1.UK.KPNQwest.net (134.222.231.13) 84.066 ms 84.187 ms 83.922 ms
13 r1-Se0-3-0.0.bxl-KQ1.BE.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.174) 85.360 ms 85.376 ms 85.326 ms
14 r1-Se0-2-0.0.ledn-KQ1.NL.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.9) 85.767 ms 85.149 ms 85.731 ms
15 r1-Se0-1-0.0.hmbg-KQ1.DE.kpnqwest.net (134.222.230.18) 96.098 ms 95.677 ms 95.793 ms
16 r2-Se1-1-0-0.Sthm-KQ1.SE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.230.150) 115.233 ms 115.463 ms 116.172 ms
17 r4-Se7-0-0-0.Sthm-KQ1.SE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.119.246) 116.107 ms 115.534 ms 115.670 ms
18 s-gw.nordu.net (134.222.119.241) 116.352 ms 115.256 ms 115.604 ms
19 STK-BB-2-POS5-0.sunet.se (193.10.252.182) 115.865 ms 118.108 ms 116.097 ms
20 STK-BB-1-POS0-0.sunet.se (130.242.200.45) 122.542 ms 122.991 ms 122.696 ms
21 MLM-BB-2-POS4-0.sunet.se (130.242.204.244) 130.427 ms 130.654 ms 130.455 ms
22 MLM-BB-1-POS0-0.sunet.se (130.242.200.81) 131.370 ms 130.540 ms 130.714 ms
23 halmstad-2-POS4-0-0.sunet.se (130.242.210.27) 132.619 ms 132.397 ms 132.267 ms
24 * * *
25 L32-310.gsten.hh.se (194.47.16.181) 134.273 ms 142.131 ms 134.718 m
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Originally posted by kirath
traceroute 194.47.16.181
traceroute to 194.47.16.181 (194.47.16.181), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 146.115.9.2 (146.115.9.2) 1.030 ms 1.051 ms 1.232 ms
2 fe1-0-0.core1.mbo.ma.rcn.net (146.115.13.7) 0.957 ms 0.588 ms 0.567 ms
3 pos0-1.core2.sbo.ma.rcn.net (207.172.19.227) 1.572 ms 1.776 ms 1.608 ms
4 POS3-1.hsipaccess1.Boston1.Level3.net (64.156.16.5) 2.542 ms 2.177 ms 2.102 ms
5 lo0.mp1.Boston1.Level3.net (209.247.11.251) 5.510 ms 3.601 ms 2.992 ms
6 so-3-0-0.mp2.NewYork1.Level3.net (64.159.1.42) 11.508 ms 8.347 ms 7.287 ms
7 so-2-0-0.mp2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.128.154) 72.752 ms 73.916 ms 74.111 ms
8 gigabitethernet6-1.core2.London1.Level3.net (212.187.131.116) 73.059 ms 72.731 ms 73.043 ms
9 pos2-0.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net (212.113.0.117) 73.427 ms 74.108 ms 73.312 ms
10 r13-Gi4-0.Ldn-KQ4.UK.KPNQwest.net (195.66.224.54) 83.586 ms 83.684 ms 83.444 ms
11 r4-Gi1-0-0.200.ldn-KQ4.uk.kpnqwest.net (134.222.109.242) 83.599 ms 83.925 ms 83.619 ms
12 r1-Se0-2-0.0.Ldn-KQ1.UK.KPNQwest.net (134.222.231.13) 84.066 ms 84.187 ms 83.922 ms
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16 r2-Se1-1-0-0.Sthm-KQ1.SE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.230.150) 115.233 ms 115.463 ms 116.172 ms
17 r4-Se7-0-0-0.Sthm-KQ1.SE.KPNQwest.net (134.222.119.246) 116.107 ms 115.534 ms 115.670 ms
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21 MLM-BB-2-POS4-0.sunet.se (130.242.204.244) 130.427 ms 130.654 ms 130.455 ms
22 MLM-BB-1-POS0-0.sunet.se (130.242.200.81) 131.370 ms 130.540 ms 130.714 ms
23 halmstad-2-POS4-0-0.sunet.se (130.242.210.27) 132.619 ms 132.397 ms 132.267 ms
24 * * *
25 L32-310.gsten.hh.se (194.47.16.181) 134.273 ms 142.131 ms 134.718 m
what the f*ck is that?
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Posting a disclaimer on your website will not prevent you from being sued by Sony or any other big corporation. If Bjorn was sued, and he didn\'t have the money to defend himself in court, then his only choice would be to capitulate to Sony\'s demands. (which may include shutting down the site.) Just the threat of a lawsuit is now all the deterrence needed in today\'s Internet.
If y0u w4n7 70 741k 4b0u7 p1r4cy, g0 4nd r34d s0m3 h4x0r b04rds, bu7 y0u\'r3 g01ng 70 h4v3 70 b3c0m3 4 c0mp1373 d0rk 4nd 134rn h0w 70 wr337 1ik3 7h1s.
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Also, wouldnt disclaimers protect the boards from that type of thing? Or more specifically the 1st amendment(i think its the 1st)
Ok, in that case, then go to an airport, board a plane with a briefcase and proclaim that you have a bomb in your briefcase. Watch what happens.
The 1st amendment is fine and all, but there are limits to everything. This site, or this forum in particular as proclaimed by our communist leader, is not a democracy and what the administrators say, goes. I know a lot of people on here pirate mp3\'s, games, movies, whatever, but no one here openly discusses it and asks of ways to find it easier and faster. It\'s just common sense. Nothing more.
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Originally posted by Coredweller
If y0u w4n7 70 741k 4b0u7 p1r4cy, g0 4nd r34d s0m3 h4x0r b04rds, bu7 y0u\'r3 g01ng 70 h4v3 70 b3c0m3 4 c0mp1373 d0rk 4nd 134rn h0w 70 wr337 1ik3 7h1s.
hell no, I hate that haxor stuff...its almost as bad As TaLkInG LiKe DiS y0..NaH wHa I MeAn MaH NiZzL3?
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Is that why mod was blocked?:confused:
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LUKE Thats the road map that the little bits of data that go from my computer and goto these forums..
ITs called a traceroute. And does what it says Traces the Route that the data has to take to reach a certain place..
Dood I have power at my finger tips. Thats only a trace, I can get more info for ya if you want.. But I don\'t want to do anything at work that will get me in trouble..
Like I could get you Bjorn telephone number, address, all kinds of things..
Quite simple really.. But we will leave it at that... Educate yourself, KNOWLEDGE is power
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1st amendment? freedom of speech
this is a private forum, you have NO freedom of speech
people advocate piracy, they get banned
simple enough, no?
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Originally posted by mm
1st amendment? freedom of speech
this is a private forum, you have NO freedom of speech
people advocate piracy, they get banned
simple enough, no?
go re-read what I wrote..I didn\'t say the ppl posting had freedom of speech in a private forum, I meant it more as the content on these boards in general. as in said company vs. ps2central, not a admin/mod vs. a poster.
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Originally posted by kirath
LUKE Thats the road map that the little bits of data that go from my computer and goto these forums..
ITs called a traceroute. And does what it says Traces the Route that the data has to take to reach a certain place..
Dood I have power at my finger tips. Thats only a trace, I can get more info for ya if you want.. But I don\'t want to do anything at work that will get me in trouble..
Like I could get you Bjorn telephone number, address, all kinds of things..
Quite simple really.. But we will leave it at that... Educate yourself, KNOWLEDGE is power
You along with anyone in the world can do it. It took me about 10 seconds, but I could now fax him something.
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luckee, i wasnt attacking you with that remark
more of a general statement
lol, look out! kirath = l337 h4x0r!
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mm..its kewl, I know you weren\'t, as I wasnt attacking you. I just thought the comment was directed at me so I responded:D
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we cool
better start looking for a pic, 86 more posts to go
:)
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nope..more like a 1k to go :)..not picking one till I get my full status:D
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ahhh, you forget i have kommunist powers over this forum and its control panel
i can make *things* happen
:)
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so we have a pre-arranged deal? no buttsects tho....:D
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lol i tell ya MM you just been giving out a lot of favors lately
must make you feel special to give - oh wait nm you are getting all those under the table favors huh - lol i thought i saw luckee get out from under there
:p
anyway i need to go on a hunt for a new pic - this one is getting old for me - almost had it for 3300 posts :D
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986312 60035 121173 011312 those dumb hack ones.. :)
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Hell, even if it weren\'t illegal, piracy hurts the industry we all love so much, so that\'s all the more reason not to allow talk of it here.
(listens to MP3s while I type)
So I\'m a hypocrite. Lick me.
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Did someone say lick? :p
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Originally posted by Videoholic
You along with anyone in the world can do it. It took me about 10 seconds, but I could now fax him something.
Exactly Videoholic, thats why I said educate yourself..
Its all public knowledge on public services, but knowing where to look..
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by luckee
In reference to the piracy thread recently closed. None of you DL mp3\'z? All of you pay for every single piece of sw? I burned close to 300 ps1 games..mainly to have as backups..some I burned to share with friends. I honestly don\'t see the big deal.
BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BOY
we have a very strict NO Piracy Rule here at the forum and we intend to keep it that way.
Sorry Lukee but these forums are visited from time to time by Rep\'s on behalf of Sony.
If you don\'t beleve me well there wasa Dreamcast froum that was closed by SEGA for having threads on about bruning DC games
Sorry i like this place and dont want to see it threatend
Thread Closed
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i have reopened it but remember not to talk about piracy you can talk about our attatudes towards it but no about it OK
ANY Piracy Talk or its
Thread Closed time again
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piracy is bad, very true statement
I have loads of mp3s, but it only makes me buy more CDs? right?
I used to have pirated games, but I got rid of them quickly. For some reason I cannot enjoy pirated games, the same thing happens when I play roms on an emulator. If I dont buy a game, I feel wierd playing it
I respect software companies/ music artists therefore I\'m willing to buy their products
weird but true
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Originally posted by Coredweller
If y0u w4n7 70 741k 4b0u7 p1r4cy, g0 4nd r34d s0m3 h4x0r b04rds, bu7 y0u\'r3 g01ng 70 h4v3 70 b3c0m3 4 c0mp1373 d0rk 4nd 134rn h0w 70 wr337 1ik3 7h1s.
Wha??? Is that.... Yes, I think it\'s my favorite quote on this forum to date. Putting Vivi\'s rental rant about The Bouncer in 2nd place. ~Cored 0wNz j00~
Metgearray- I know what you mean. I have purchased more CDs than I ever have in my life due to Napster and now Morpheus. The MPAA and record companies don\'t seem to care that album sales went noticeably down soon after Napster was shut down.
As for videogame piracy, my buddy has harddrives of ROMS and says he has every SNES and Genesis game ever made (and after browsing his FTP I believe him). I dloaded several favorites, but I don\'t play them at all anymore. There\'s just something about having that shiny new game with it\'s box in front of your face and popping it into your console.
Now PC software, that\'s a different story..
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Originally posted by THX
Wha??? Is that.... Yes, I think it\'s my favorite quote on this forum to date. Putting Vivi\'s rental rant about The Bouncer in 2nd place. ~Cored 0wNz j00~
Thanks. Here\'s how you do it.
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