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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: fishpie on December 13, 2001, 08:23:27 PM
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isnt even real? just a mere simulation like the colnel in metal gear solid 2? :thepimp: :hat: :bounce:
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Ugh, we dont\' need your stupidity right now. That\'s not even funny.
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it is a real possibility! just think about it!
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It\'s foolish to compare something that\'s really going on to a videogame.
I don\'t even wanna waste my time thinking if he wasn\'t real. You seem pretty desperate to create a thread or something, this is just foolish.
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Children...
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do u know how stupid that is?
His life is documented, theres tons of media out there of him, pictures, audio, video even hour long documentary\'s on tv.
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Originally posted by fishpie
isnt even real? just a mere simulation like the colnel in metal gear solid 2? :thepimp: :hat: :bounce:
Flip on the news, and you\'ll see.
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ugh, all the text colors hurt my eyes
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My god, please turn of that HTML thingie, I really hate it when people abuse text color and size like that.
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Exactly, fishpie cut it out with the smilies and stuff as well.
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Originally posted by fishpie
isnt even real? just a mere simulation like the colnel in metal gear solid 2? :thepimp: :hat: :bounce:
This could easily win stupidest post of the month award:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Kimahri
do u know how stupid that is?
His life is documented, theres tons of media out there of him, pictures, audio, video even hour long documentary\'s on tv.
Have you ever seen Wag The Dog? I don\'t put ANYTHING past the US government.
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I wonder how "real" that newly released tape of him is. I mean, be honest, just how fast can we produce a digital image of a person down to his last hair, blur out any anomalies, blame it on poor video quality, and then release it to the public with a partially audible audio track?
They had three months to create it, could it have been created in that time? I think it\'s more than possible.
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:rolleyes: Bullsh!t, I just had this conversation with someone lastnight. That tape IS authentic, in my opinion Osama wanted it to be found. Why else would it even exsist. We all know he\'s not camera shy, in fact I think he\'s beginning to like seeing his ugly mug on TV. C\'mon guys, give the US government a little more credit than "faking" a video. Hell the US doesn\'t care if Bin Laden supporters feel our war on terror is just or not. They released this tape just to show how evil this man really is.
I\'m ashamed of you who feel this tape was made up just to make him look guilty. Anyone with common sense doesn\'t need this tape to know this man is a terrorist. The world will not miss him when he\'s gone.
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Well, nobody knows for sure where he is.... Do you think he could already be dead?
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Originally posted by nO-One
My god, please turn of that HTML thingie, I really hate it when people abuse text color and size like that.
There i fixed Fishpie for ya mate :D
dirty Fish Pie and his over abuse of Colors
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sorry buddy i post in GREEN!
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Probably not for too much longer!
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Bin Laden is hiding in Texas. :laughing:
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Not in the "sovereign nation of Texas"!!!!!!!!!
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i like a good joke but that wasnt even a bad joke that has to be the most stupid thing ive hered all year ....
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it could happen, you are stupid 9f you dont consider it for even a minute.
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Man, some kids play too many video games... ;)
seriously, though- I have never heard such retardery.
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I think that there is a slight possibility that we killed him already but the government is keeping it sealed from the public. But he\'s probably in a cave somewhere. I heard that they are planning to use biological weapons. Anyone hear about this?
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
Man, some kids play too many video games... ;)
seriously, though- I have never heard such retardery.
if you are trying to insult me you suck at it!
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What if.......superman were my dad, and then he beat up bin Laden, and then everyone would like me, and then he flew into the future and brought me back all the new video games, and then I would be cooler than everybody, and then me and my retarded pet monkey could play them, and then I wouldn\'t let anyone else play them, and then mommy gave me some juice.
duh.
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
What if.......superman were my dad, and then he beat up bin Laden, and then everyone would like me, and then he flew into the future and brought me back all the new video games, and then I would be cooler than everybody, and then me and my retarded pet monkey could play them, and then I wouldn\'t let anyone else play them, and then mommy gave me some juice.
duh.
What the hell was that?
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Some of you people need to chill
All he did was post a "What if" situation and a bunch of you go off on him
I think those of you who thinkfishpie is retarded need to look and see how brainwashed you are yourselves.
I never trust the government, and I don\'t believe alot of what they feed us, and I have majpor suspicions over that all fo a sudden released Bin Laden tape that so many of your are lapping up like good dogs
Te goverment has everything at there fingertips, and look what the goverment was able to do with this new war on Terrorism
All the wire tapping and other laws they have passed to "Help them fight the war on Terrorism" is just an easy way of saying we need to be able to look into everyones private lives which probably wasn\'t that private to start with.
What about the nuclear treaty that the US is going to step out of all of sudden so now we can build that missle defense system which maybe necessary or just a ploy ot gain more control
amyone remember my post of recent on unmanned military planes being built and stuff
I\'m sure whats going on in Afganistan is necessary for obvious reasons but don\'t think our Goverment is not playing with our heads either.
Never trust the goverment NEVER
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Originally posted by luckee
Have you ever seen Wag The Dog? I don\'t put ANYTHING past the US government.
Yeah but first of all, that\'s Hollywood, this is obviously real stuff. My dad\'s in the Air Force and he\'s working his @$$ off right now and I know what\'s real and whats not. People are dying in Afghanistan right now, that\'s real.
This is something serious right now and it is, "RETARDED" to compare it to a videogame. Some "What if" questions are appropiate for the time and place. This one is obviously just plain ol\' stupid.
And fishpie, What if he was? So what. Who cares? People are dead. Doesn\'t make a difference.
:rolleyes:
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Well said ddaryl. Never trust the propaganda the government is sending out ot the public.
Most americans think that they are so great and they could crush the rest of the world, which is partly true. They may have te worlds best army but not the worlds best political/military leaders.
Take rumsfeld as an example, this guy obviously doesn\'t know what he is talking about. He has been saying that he knows where bin laden is for the last couple of weeks, but did they get him yet. Hell no
The US government has been feeding the public lies. For example the us troops send into afganistan a month ago. The showing US marines being dropped was fake. It was only for show, once the troops landed they were picked up by helicopters and brough back. This all to assure the public that everything is going well. This information comes from an interview British SAS soldier.
Now they do have troops fighting, I\'m very sure there have been casulties. But the US government doesn\'t want the public to know it, it will make them look bad
Bin Laden does exist, however no-one knows where he is, he might already be in pakistan.
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Everyone feels so safe and secure that our government can do no wrong, that it can do no evil. Bin Laden is the ultimate killer and we need to take him down. Ok, that\'s all fine and dandy and if our military is so powerful and we\'re all so great, then how come it\'s the Northern Alliance taking out all the bases, moving towards the cities, and sqeezing supply and troop carrier routes so nothing can get through? I heard our military dropped a bomb on one of the Al Queda defensive positions. I heard we dropped bombs on their runway. I also heard that Bin Laden is cornered as well.
Yes, we\'re the greatest military power in the world and now we are taking it to the afghanis and we are suddenly winning a war with air power in a war that can\'t be won with air power. So strange. RUssia tried this years ago and yet they failed miserably losing millions of troops and we have lost so little? COme on, there\'s something wrong with this picture here. All these military analysts who have spent their lives in Pakistan and Afghanistan thought the American\'s would get spanked by the Al Queda the same as the Russians, et we have lost no more than 100 soldiers whereas the Russsians lost millions... Please.
"My daddy does this and he tells me this!"
That\'s right, your dad doesn\'t have classified files and he tells you everything that\'s going on. Your dad is just the bringer of truth and is utterly perfect in everyway, he can not tell a lie and he can not withhold information. You people better wake up and smell what you\'re shoveling.
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You guys dont\' know it if you haven\'t been in it. I\'ve been in a military lifestyle for 15 years. I\'ve lived 2 years in Turkey where I saw carbombs and daily anti-American demonstrations. Strict curfews and tightened security gate checks. Hell I even walked around with the Turks and been inside of Mosques and the entire deal. I\'ve been inside the bomb dumps, the bomb shelters all of it.
The U.S. government I can care less for, the only one I care about is my dad. He works his ass off like you guys wouldn\' t believe and you\'d be surprised at the confidential things he knows. Come on, he\'s not the department\'s plumber, he\'s been the Inspector General of the USAFE and now he\'s Chief of Ammuntions here in Nellis AFB.
I\'m no fool, I know even if we catch and kill Bin Laden, nothing will stop. We\'ll constantly be under fire and terrorism will always be around. Maybe we shouldn\'t police the world so much. I say we back the hell outta Israel and let a war that\'s been raging for thousands of years, continue to rage without as butting our heads in it.
And I can\'t believe Bush pulled out of the Anti-ballistic missile treaty. What a friggin\' moron. This puts tension on everybody now, and as well millions of dollars from tax payers money will be put into a system that we aren\'t even sure works.
America has a sketchy future as of now.
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
What if.......superman were my dad, and then he beat up bin Laden, and then everyone would like me, and then he flew into the future and brought me back all the new video games, and then I would be cooler than everybody, and then me and my retarded pet monkey could play them, and then I wouldn\'t let anyone else play them, and then mommy gave me some juice.
duh.
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Here are three concepts that makes it a little harder for me to sleep at night (not that I have any problems sleeping, but you get the picture):
- "1984"
- Satellite surveilance
- Echelon
Seeing a pattern here? God I hate Big Brother (and no, it\'s not the TV show I\'m talking about).
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Yeah but first of all, that\'s Hollywood, this is obviously real stuff. My dad\'s in the Air Force and he\'s working his @$$ off right now and I know what\'s real and whats not. People are dying in Afghanistan right now, that\'s real.
This is something serious right now and it is, "RETARDED" to compare it to a videogame. Some "What if" questions are appropiate for the time and place. This one is obviously just plain ol\' stupid.
Just b/c its hollywood doesnt mean it isnt happening in real life. open your eyes if you think it isnt possible. Like I said before, I wouldnt put anything past the US government.
Ask yourself why your own government would flood the US cities with drugs? Call bs if you want, but there is even documented proof the CIA was in on the whole thing.
Thats what pisses me off mmore than anything, this holier than thou attitude the US gov. walks around with.
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The U.S. government I can care less for
Bah!! "Don\'t trust the US Government" "The US Government is the problem" "It\'s a conspiracy" "Blah blah blah blah and more blah"
I\'m sick of hearing this, I really am. Sure the Government may not be the most "HONEST" people in the world, but our soldiers go and die for a cause! They sure aren\'t there because they want to be, they are there defending AMERICAN PRIDE. Defending "The Free World" Why you think they are several other nations fighting right along with the USA. Because when we were attacked it WAS an attack against humanity, an attack on freedom, and an attack "On Everything Our Ancestors Have Fought For"
You can badmouth the Government all you like, that\'s your right But if an invasion came on our soil, and the Government was needed to keep the enemy from invading YOUR HOMES and destroying everything you own, and everything you love and have worked for in your life, you might just not hate the US Government so much. Or at least you might give them the RESPECT they deserve.
I\'ll tell you this, I\'m sure proud my Government doesn\'t walk around in the street with AK\'s and shoot me on site if I\'m seen laughing or singing or conversating with a woman. I\'m glad I\'m allowed to watch TV, play video games, and listen to the radio.
I\'m glad I HAVE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH! THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS!!! AND THE FREEDOM TO PRACTICE ANY RELEGION I WANT
Our Government isn\'t so bad when you take all this and compare it to other countries in the world. And I won\'t even get into some of the other stuff I read here. I think I\'ve written enough.
GODBLESS OUR SOLDIERS THAT ARE DEFENDING OUR COUNTRY. AND GODBLESS OUR ALLIES THAT ARE RIGHT ALONG BESIDE THEM. GODBLESS THE THOUSAND OF LIVES THAT DIED DEFENDING OUR COUNTRY IN THE MANY PAST WARS!
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dajo...respecting the soldiers is different than hating your government. The US government probably is the best out there, but that doesnt mean it doesnt have any flaws. Go ahead and ask why I wont leave either... its the lesser of evils.
It wouldnt be as bad if the governemnt didnt have to deny, hide and twist everything that is real.
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Originally posted by Dajo4
I HAVE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH! THE RIGHT TO BARE ARMS!!! AND THE FREEDOM TO PRACTICE ANY RELEGION I WANT
Our Government isn\'t so bad when you take all this and compare it to other countries in the world.
I can all that stuff here, and in Denmark too, Sweden, Finland The UK hell just about every other European country. Don\'t think you are the only people that are free. ;)
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dajo...respecting the soldiers is different than hating your government. The US government probably is the best out there, but that doesnt mean it doesnt have any flaws. Go ahead and ask why I wont leave either... its the lesser of evils.
It wouldnt be as bad if the governemnt didnt have to deny, hide and twist everything that is real.
No no no..... I understand it has flaws, and yes they do twist some things around. They are hardly perfect, but I guess I\'m just more looking at the Military aspect of it. Your right I agree that they woud gain more respect if they weren\'t so secret or "twist everything" I just can\'t understand the concept of anyone living in America that can say "The U.S. government I can care less for"
I mean sure, dislike them, or whatever but don\'t just write them off. They care for there people and I feel that remark was kinda wrong. Just kinda set me off I guess.....
I can all that stuff here, and in Denmark too, Sweden, Finland The UK hell just about every other European country. Don\'t think you are the only people that are free.
NO KIDING :rolleyes:
I can name many countries that have similar rights, but I can name many that don\'t either.
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Dajo I agree whole-heartedly with your previous post about how people think that our Government are strange, twisted evil men that are constantly plotting conspiracies and BS.
No what separates America from say, Sweden? History. America has the greatest history in the world. The British tried to establish a colony in the new world, however they also imposed heavy taxes on those who lived there, who which thought was unfair that they were paying taxes to people that were a thousand miles away. So they revolted, a bunch farmers, blacksmiths, whoever, went against one of the most powerful armies ever and won. Yada, yada, you guys know the story. Now what\'s Sweden\'s history? Some guy liked snow and he went north and invited more people who liked snow. (Yeah I\'m an idiot, I don\'t know the history of Sweden, shoot me)
I\'m not really trying to make fun of Sweden, I\'m just saying thats what separates the U.S. and other countries.
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
History. America has the greatest history in the world.
The romans had a stretch of great history for how long?
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Romans were some bad @$$es though. They did some bad things. i.e. Killing millions just to expand their empire for profit and religion.
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Romans were some bad @$$es though. They did some bad things. i.e. Killing millions just to expand their empire for profit and religion.
OK what government DOESNT do that. The US only gets involved when things affect them financially.
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Financially?
lol.
Do you know how much money the U.S. Government loses getting themselves involved in these things?
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Financially?
lol.
Do you know how much money the U.S. Government loses getting themselves involved in these things?
Take desert storm for instance. do you know how much money it would have cost them if they didnt get involved and saddam got control over kuwait?
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
No what separates America from say, Sweden? History. America has the greatest history in the world.
Damn you\'re ignorant. :rolleyes:
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it suprises me how ignorant and patriotic some amercans can be.
Face it boys, you aren\'t the greatest anymore. You might have a good army but when it controlled by morons it doesn\'t work
Im with samewise here
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I\'m a very patriotic man, but that IS an ignorant statement.
(this is exactly why other countries think we\'re all brick-headed cowboys.
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Originally posted by ddaryl
Never trust the goverment NEVER
Except for when they tell us they won\'t raise taxes. You can believe them then.
And as an aside, no one really liked Big Brother the tv show, either.
-Eik
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
it suprises me how ignorant and patriotic some amercans can be.
Face it boys, you aren\'t the greatest anymore. You might have a good army but when it controlled by morons it doesn\'t work
Im with samewise here
Yeah me too.
Im English so a blow to Sweden is a blow to Europe which in turn is a blow to England.
Seriously what is America thinking. All these media hyped words and phrases like "a war on terrosim". It wasn\'t like America were really that bothered in stopping terrorism before September 11th.
Also does anyone notice how before these events Bush was concided well not totally trustworthy or whatever. He was a fairly new person on the scene. Now you can\'t have a bad word said against him because for some reason everyone seems to think him bombing a third world country is the best decision America has seen in years.
As for England well Tony Blair should have kept right the hell away from America in this one. Ok standing side by side is one thing but we are pretty much in this as much as the Americans are now. They should have just shown as much support as the other countries did.
As for America leaving that nuclear missile treaty thing well that is a step backwards in a "war against terrosim" but a step forward in give Americans some power.
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Originally posted by RichG
Seriously what is America thinking. All these media hyped words and phrases like "a war on terrosim". It wasn\'t like America were really that bothered in stopping terrorism before September 11th.
ummm dude actually if i remember correctly there are several big terrorists groups that dont exist anymore thanks to USA - im sorry if i cant remember their names and stuff but i remember learning that in history in high school - lol those 3 years ago - so anyway i remeber learning that we bombed some terrorists palace/house when he wasnt expected and eliminated the guy or something like that - there has also been many other groups - just these people werent terrorizing you so you didnt hear about it
but anyway i know there are a lot of people out there that think Americans are careless and illogical and ignorant - i have to say that you should not stereotype us as we should not you - i hate it when i read a post that states a posters ideal and they say americans and not the specific person - it offends me - i mean i have pride in my country as i am sure you guys have pride in your countries - its just like say your fav sport team - you ll stand up for em no matter what - when they lose or do something stupid you are behind them - even when they win a game they shouldnt on a bad call - it doesnt matter you are glad they won by any means
anyway all im trying to say is to chill on the america bashing - its annoying and rude
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I wasn\'t really America bashing. Im sorry if you felt I was. No offense meant.
I simply think that Bush has way crossed the line on this one.
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Originally posted by Sublimesjg
ummm dude actually if i remember correctly there are several big terrorists groups that dont exist anymore thanks to USA - im sorry if i cant remember their names and stuff but i remember learning that in history in high school - lol those 3 years ago - so anyway i remeber learning that we bombed some terrorists palace/house when he wasnt expected and eliminated the guy or something like that - there has also been many other groups - just these people werent terrorizing you so you didnt hear about it
Yeah.. That guy with the courly hair and shades.. He has a white general “cap” aswell..
Damn forgot his name..
Anyways he went underground when the US bombed some training houses or something.. (I think he was from Libya)
He\'s/His group [is] still active.. But not in a big scale like before.
Anyways you can never defeat terrorism.. It will always be there and we can never protect ourselves against it.
Originally posted by Samwise
Damn you\'re ignorant. :rolleyes:
I second that.
Ryu: Russia lost about 50 000 troops I think. (not 100 sure)
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Originally posted by RichG
I wasn\'t really America bashing. Im sorry if you felt I was. No offense meant.
I simply think that Bush has way crossed the line on this one.
None taken, but I think if you look at who\'s standing next to him, you\'d see a familiar face. ;)
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I know I know. As I said in my original thread I think Mr Blair as made a mistake getting involved as much as he did. He should have just showed his support like the other countries did.
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Hey guys. I wasn\'t trying to start a US vs. war - my comment was only meant for Vapor Snake. With such a comment he shows no signs of intelligence or argumentation skills. It\'s like saying "Denmark is the best country in the world!111"... useless. And comparing the history of a country (in this case the US) to another the history of another country which he doesn\'t even know about (!) is just plain lame. Don\'t even let me get started on the "some guy who liked snow etc." thing.
Let me tell you this mr. Snake. You\'re comparing a \'few\' hundred years of history to countries that has existed for thousands of years. If I was you I would just stop there. :eek:
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I don\'t know man, I think he rocks! To average American joe like me his action says " Thanks for helping us out in WWII..."
(not that I\'m one of those "we saved yer a$$es " types) ;)
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samwise sneaked one in rich! :)
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And America hasn\'t been around for 1000 years? What was there, just a vast blue ocean and all of a sudden land emerged from the sea? I\'m sure the Natives probably had a long history as well. Until we ran in and stole it from them.
Heck, I\'m not even 100% American. No one really is. I\'m 50%Spanish (SPAIN!) and 50% Deutsch. America is just a blend of the world in a large landmass i.e. "The Melting Pot"
I think it\'s messed up to say we\'re being run by idiots. Cuz\' that\'s like calling Americans idiots for voting and choosing these people. So your really targeting all Americans in general.
And someone made a comment about how Briton shouldn\'t help. That\'s so selfish. Dammit we are constantly "policing" the world and doing are best (as hopeless as it may be sometimes) to bring peace and resolve (bush "word") to places that need desperate help. We have the most active military in the world, cuz\' we always have some country that needs help. Briton better damn help, you know why? Cuz\' Osama Bin Laden\'s target isn\'t only America. It\'s the Western World in general. Any non-Islam country that poses as a superpower is a target. So Briton is definately on Bin Laden\'s "Things to do" list.
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
And America hasn\'t been around for 1000 years? What was there, just a vast blue ocean and all of a sudden land emerged from the sea? I\'m sure the Natives probably had a long history as well. Until we ran in and stole it from them.
But little to none of it is recorded, so thats a moot point.
I think it\'s messed up to say we\'re being run by idiots. Cuz\' that\'s like calling Americans idiots for voting and choosing these people. So your really targeting all Americans in general.
If the shoe fits......
America is run by a bunch of dumbass\' for the most part. Bush appointed the rest of the morons, so technically we really didnt vote for them.
And someone made a comment about how Briton shouldn\'t help. That\'s so selfish. Dammit we are constantly "policing" the world and doing are best (as hopeless as it may be sometimes) to bring peace and resolve (bush "word") to places that need desperate help. We have the most active military in the world, cuz\' we always have some country that needs help. Briton better damn help, you know why? Cuz\' Osama Bin Laden\'s target isn\'t only America. It\'s the Western World in general. Any non-Islam country that poses as a superpower is a target. So Briton is definately on Bin Laden\'s "Things to do" list.
If the US minded its own F\'n business for once, maybe they wouldnt be as hated by so many people, including the ones they "help". All of the help Britain or any other country should do is show moral support by voicing their opinions and leaving it at that.
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I agree that sometimes we should mind our own business. It\'s foolish of us to put our fat American asses into a war thats been raging for thousands of years. I\'ve probably said this before, but I"m gonna say it again:
1. Capture Bin Laden, rid of as many Al Queda and Taliban forces as possible.
2. Throw some cash at Israel and Palestine and let them kill each other cuz\' that is what they do during breakfast, lunch and dinner.
3. Build a massive wall of steel all around the border line of the continental U.S. 10 miles thick, 35,000 feet high. With large mechanical doors that the FAA can use to allow planes to enter only if they\'re safe. (Hawaii and Alaska, your on your own, sorry)
4. Destroy CNN to hell. No more news on what is going outside our massive steel wall, only local news and U.S. news.
5. Create a secret and massive pipeline that connects to the middle east and drain them of all their oil.
Or the old fashion way and conquer the world ;) .
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All I have to say is...
[size=18]I\'m proud to be american. PERIOD. [/size]
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Amen to that.
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I\'m proud to be gay.
Ops, wrong thread.
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Originally posted by Samwise
I\'m proud to be gay.
Ops, wrong thread.
:laughing:
least yer finally out of the closet ;)
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I knew it all along Samwise. ;) :eek:
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Originally posted by Samwise
I\'m proud to be gay.
Ops, wrong thread.
:laughing:
You know if I woulda posted this reply, I woulda been flamed by everyone and insulted to death.
See what the number of posts get ya?
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its not only post count, you just have a bad track record to begin with.
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Originally posted by Samwise
I\'m proud to be gay.
Ops, wrong thread.
:laughing:
:laughing: you crack me up.
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Ummm, real life, video game, two seperate things...
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[Inserts SemiSonic\'s "Closing Time"]
;)
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Your right Vapor Snake. Your hated. ;)
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Romans were some bad @$$es though. They did some bad things. i.e. Killing millions just to expand their empire for profit and religion.
Hmmm ring a bell?
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Originally posted by Proud To Be
Your right Vapor Snake. Your hated. ;)
Yep, so true.....so...very, very, true............
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here is a good one
What if Bin Laden turned out to be a Woman
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Originally posted by ooseven
here is a good one
What if Bin Laden turned out to be a Woman
I wouldnt care. It would only prove my point on how the US media/government filters everything to help brainwash the citizens.
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The ****ed thing is, we all know they brainwash people, but yet they still succeed.
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Originally posted by luckee
I wouldnt care. It would only prove my point on how the US media/government filters everything to help brainwash the citizens.
i meant that if he was realy a woman it would be total ironic when you consider the taliban\'s attitude to Women.
Also it would be even more ironic that he or she was resoncible for their fall at the hands of the west and the northen alliance
just a tought though that facial hair could be faulse you know
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Originally posted by ooseven
i meant that if he was realy a woman it would be total ironic when you consider the taliban\'s attitude to Women.
Also it would be even more ironic that he or she was resoncible for their fall at the hands of the west and the northen alliance
just a tought though that facial hair could be faulse you know
hehehe, that flew right over my head. That would be rather ironic if he turned out to be a she!!! Any other country and it wouldnt be an issue, but a muslim country :laughing: