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Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 23, 2001, 12:33:56 AM
Yep, thats right. Kmart, Australia\'s largest department store, and largest toy stockist (and official SONY PS2 stockist) will not be stocking the XBOX as of its release in March in Australia.

This has not been officially confirmed, but I can tell you now that I have sources within the store saying that there is an agreement with SONY to stock the XBOX.

Looks like another Dreamcast scenario (Kmart didn\'t support DC and it died within 8 months of release).
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on December 23, 2001, 02:13:08 AM
well, ive always said XBOX would fail here...but...just because K-Mart doesnt stock it doesnt mean much...it\'ll fail for other reasons (despite their being adds every commercial break on television)

its odd...with all the commercials for XBOX ive seen, they havent once told anyone what the XBOX is...i have friends actually ask me what the XBOX is and what it does...interesting (i love you)
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 23, 2001, 02:58:37 AM
Yeah.

The reason I say that its screwed because Kmart isnt stocking it is simply because Kmart sells the most videogame stock of any store in Australia. They have (most the times) the lowest prices, and have the buying power to get surplus stock.

If Kmart doesnt sell it, then other retailers will probably follow (like Myer and David Jones as with DC).

Its a shame...
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: Knotter8 on December 23, 2001, 04:29:54 AM
No dude, I think Kmart Australia just screwed itself
bigtime. You say it\'s the biggest vgame selling store ;
so why would they shoot off a potential money tree ?
You can\'t avoid other stores selling XBOX\'s. The XBOX
is a good machine. Outcome : Buyers will notice and
abandon Kmart for it - Kmart screwed...itself.
That\'s how business works.
Knotter8:laughing:
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 23, 2001, 04:36:04 AM
Knotter,

No, not really. I mean, Kmart invested alot into becoming the Official Playstation Headquaters, and I don\'t think they are going to risk that for Microsoft.

Kmart is a massive retail chain in Australia, and they have some mega deals with Sony Computer Entertainment Australia. I think they know what their doing.
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Post by: Rishi on December 23, 2001, 06:00:28 AM
Isn\'t Kmart mean to be like redneck central for the most part?
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Post by: RichG on December 23, 2001, 06:46:19 AM
I can\'t see it being the end of the X-Box in Australia but a step towards helping that. Nothing too significant though.
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Post by: Heat on December 23, 2001, 06:50:52 AM
It shows how much Kmart thinks of Sony\'s “Competition”, Kmart knows who butters its bread.
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 23, 2001, 03:33:01 PM
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Originally posted by Rishi
Isn\'t Kmart mean to be like redneck central for the most part?


I have no idea as to what your on about, and I think you may have lived out in the bush for too long buddy

Ever been to Kmart Megastore in Melbourne? Coool store.
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: kimathi on December 23, 2001, 04:12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Knotter8
No dude, I think Kmart Australia just screwed itself
bigtime. You say it\'s the biggest vgame selling store ;
so why would they shoot off a potential money tree ?
You can\'t avoid other stores selling XBOX\'s. The XBOX
is a good machine. Outcome : Buyers will notice and
abandon Kmart for it - Kmart screwed...itself.
That\'s how business works.
Knotter8:laughing:


Knotter8 I\'m inclined to agree with you on this one, b/c if K-Mart won\'t sell Xboxes then someone else will. One person\'s short sightedness is always someone else\'s opportunity. If this is true, and Xbox makes a big splash in Austraila, K-Mart will be kicking itself in the a** for not coming aboard.
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 23, 2001, 06:48:43 PM
But what if it dies, like the DC did.

They would be left with alot of surplus stock... (Like EB) :)
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: SER on December 23, 2001, 07:00:33 PM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##


I have no idea as to what your on about, and I think you may have lived out in the bush for too long buddy

Ever been to Kmart Megastore in Melbourne? Coool store.


K-Mart in the states is like for stereotyped for rednecks. People wouldn\'t be caught dead buying clothes there or something. :laughing:

Here on Guam, K-Mart is like in Australia.. People appreciate it and don\'t tease it.... :laughing:

(I know this because I\'ve been to K-Marts everywhere!) ;)
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Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 23, 2001, 07:09:35 PM
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Originally posted by serrano007


K-Mart in the states is like for stereotyped for rednecks. People wouldn\'t be caught dead buying clothes there or something. :laughing:

Here on Guam, K-Mart is like in Australia.. People appreciate it and don\'t tease it.... :laughing:

(I know this because I\'ve been to K-Marts everywhere!) ;)


No no no, you\'ve got it wrong. I have been to Kmart in USA, and they are really crappy, their clothes are like...

Kmart in Australia is different. It is owned by a different company, different logo, and much better image.

What is your opinion of Macy\'s? Our version of Macy\'s is called Myer and our version of Walmart is called Big W.

look, go to http://www.kmart.com.au
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Its alot better then your crappy \'Blue Light Specials\' or whatever they call it.
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Post by: M4 on December 23, 2001, 07:16:22 PM
Oh well, Australia is only a ridiculously small fraction of the entire industry anyway.
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 23, 2001, 07:38:02 PM
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Originally posted by M4
Oh well, Australia is only a ridiculously small fraction of the entire industry anyway.


Thats why we got Wipeout Fusion first ;)

two months ahead of Europe, and probably at least 6 months ahead of the US.

Yes, Australia is just so small and insignificant... Thats why we get big AAA games first...
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Post by: mm on December 23, 2001, 07:42:12 PM
good, you guys in oz can be the bug-testers

:)
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Post by: ajoh432 on December 23, 2001, 08:23:57 PM
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Originally posted by mm
good, you guys in oz can be the bug-testers

:)
Bahahahaha...
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Post by: AlteredBeast on December 23, 2001, 08:49:43 PM
That\'s funny cause if this were the other way around, you guys would be like "M$ is using it\'s money and force to monopolize the industry!!1!!!1!!!" Gimme a break, how fucking typical.


Eric Jacob
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Post by: Byatch on December 23, 2001, 09:49:43 PM
It will be interesting to see how well MS broardband strategy will work over here, very interesting indeed.
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Post by: SER on December 23, 2001, 10:25:30 PM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##



What is your opinion of Macy\'s? Our version of Macy\'s is called Myer and our version of Walmart is called Big W.

look, go to http://www.kmart.com.au
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Its alot better then your crappy \'Blue Light Specials\' or whatever they call it.



And Burger King is Hungry Jack\'s.. I know I know.. lol
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: Rishi on December 23, 2001, 10:46:51 PM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##


I have no idea as to what your on about, and I think you may have lived out in the bush for too long buddy

Ever been to Kmart Megastore in Melbourne? Coool store.


No insult intended :) Where I am , most old ladies frequent it. Maybe its better in Melbourne.
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Post by: GmanJoe on December 23, 2001, 11:01:47 PM
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
That\'s funny cause if this were the other way around, you guys would be like "M$ is using it\'s money and force to monopolize the industry!!1!!!1!!!" Gimme a break, how fucking typical.


Eric Jacob


:laughing: Why are you so angry? :laughing:
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: Joker on December 24, 2001, 12:43:41 AM
lmao Racer exactly what titles does Australia get first that make it so great?

I talk to bobby hardware and gradman 24/7 when they\'re on and they are my best friends on the net. they both live in the Brisbane/Melbourne area and we always talk about how Australia and Europe gets horribly ****ed on release dates.

but hey man...if your happy with the release dates Australia gets then great.
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: Living-In-Clip on December 24, 2001, 01:02:08 AM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##


Thats why we got Wipeout Fusion first ;)

two months ahead of Europe, and probably at least 6 months ahead of the US.

Yes, Australia is just so small and insignificant... Thats why we get big AAA games first...



I guess I\'ll do Altered\'s job on this one, see\'ing as he passed the chance up....

DOUBLE STANDARD ALERT

Helllllllo? Why are you so happy about getting Wipeout Fusion first if you hate it? You do hate it right? Let me check, yep you made a thread about how you hated Fusion.. Yet, you never changed your signature and now you\'re proclaiming it to be a big AAA title and you\'re so glad how OZ got it first.

Make up your mind, Racey.
;)
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Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on December 24, 2001, 02:01:56 AM
that was a stupid move from them, xbox sells good. In some cases better than GC.

And knotter, do you think that xbox is going to sell here in holland, they made the same blunder like sony did with the ps2 launch, selling it for 1099 guilders. I wonder if stored like bart smit are going to carry the system, since they didn\'t with the DC I fear for the worst
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Post by: Knotter8 on December 24, 2001, 06:37:48 AM
Well, Metal_Gear_Ray....
I read the PU report on the XBOX presentation in
Amsterdam and PU was positive about. They were
surprised by the sceptical attitude from others on
XBOX.
So imo it\'s 2fold ; the Dutch press loves it, but XBOX
is maybe \'ver van m\'n bed show\' for the average Jan Lul.
I know some hardcore PC gamers, where I live. They keep
on saying how XBOX kicks PS2\'s ass all the time, but when
puntje comes to paaltje they say they\'re stickin\' with their
PC ! How\'s that for a double standard ? LOL
The other thing ; Bart Smit, Dixons, hey maybe even Intertoys
will have XBOX\'s, imo. The DC affair was all about Atoll Soft
screwing up. It wasn\'t Sega\'s personal fault, they just picked
bad in choosing their DC distributer. Anyways if you wanna
read my thoughts on Sega in Holland, read my last reply in
Troglodyte\'s thread "I finally did it..."
But my personal opinion is that the Gamecube will do better in the
Netherlands, just because Holland is N land and it\'ll be cheapo at
599 DFL (or somethin like that - I don\'t know it in Euro\'s ).
Greetz, Knotter8:cool:
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Post by: AlteredBeast on December 24, 2001, 11:40:54 AM
I went for one double standard over the other. They are both equally jackassy, but the one I picked makes more people feel stupid rather than just one.



Eric Jacob
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Post by: Agnino on December 24, 2001, 03:40:37 PM
Bobs Software said:lmao Racer exactly what titles does Australia get first that make it so great?

I talk to bobby hardware and gradman 24/7 when they\'re on and they are my best friends on the net. they both live in the Brisbane/Melbourne area and we always talk about how Australia and Europe gets horribly ****ed on release dates.

but hey man...if your happy with the release dates Australia gets then great

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I agree with you about Europe . We do have late release dates, but not only that.... we also get often worse games. Many games is 50hz, some are not even the complete version of the game (Latest game that happened to was TWB, with no story line and some gameplay elements gone). The European Playstation market have always been BAD.
The DC was a LOT better, we got the games the way they should be. Even though the release dates was later there too.
Now, Im considering to buy an NTSC PS2.
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 26, 2001, 10:06:17 AM
There\'s always Toys R Us. There a bigger TOY seller then KMart. Kmart deal alot more in clothing.
Title: xbox
Post by: rage_42 on December 26, 2001, 02:32:28 PM
well it wont fail but they better get those exclusive titles cranking because titles like mgs final fantsay silent hill gt3  grand theft auto the ps 2 is killing the soft ware wars x box will be a sucess but it needs the soft ware right now owning a x box is like ownining a ferari with no gas its pretty but dam it aint no fun
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Post by: Coredweller on December 26, 2001, 04:26:38 PM
I\'d like to check into this further, but I have a feeling that this sort of decision by a major retailer (to exclude a particular product because that product\'s competitor signed an agreement/contract with the retailer) would be illegal in the United States.  I think it\'s the agreement/contract that would classify this as restraint of trade.  The retailer would probably be free to make business decisions regarding what products they sell, but when they make an exclusivity agreement with one manufacturer, that might get into a restraint of trade area.

Perhaps the laws in Australia are much different on these matters.  You can bet that if there\'s any avenue available to Microsoft, they will have no hesitation in resolving this issue in the courts.
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Post by: MaXiMaN on December 27, 2001, 12:04:45 AM
You can shoot me for saying this but I think Kmart SHOULD stock the Xbox, Sony can\'t have it all to themselves. Now I\'m just as much on Sony\'s side as I have ever been, but to have Kmart deny Sony the chance for a challenging competition is just plain commercial suicide.
Title: XBOX is screwed in Australia - Kmart are not going to stock it.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on December 27, 2001, 12:58:17 AM
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
There\'s always Toys R Us. There a bigger TOY seller then KMart. Kmart deal alot more in clothing.


Yes Soulgrind, I realise that, but Kmart have the "official\' license from Sony.

Not that it really changes anything.