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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: pstwo on January 10, 2002, 02:39:20 AM
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Someone post this in a Xbox forum. Its a Feb 2002 Issue. :D
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I\'ll make my own comparisons
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yeah, having some 65 year old geezer reviewing consoles is far from reliable
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BAHAHA! titles selection is less important than graphics and controllers...BAHAH, that is soo full o\' **** :)
:fro: toot on
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I surprised, that same guy completely picked the xbox apart about 6 months ago when it was fashionable to hate it.
Xbox is getting a lot of positive press from everywhere. It\'s good to see.
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What Extras does GC have that would even score it any points?
:confused:
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Actually, I think the same way about the number of titles available for PS2 vs xbox. It\'s all about current games, luckily both consoles have about the same quantity and quality over that last couple months. I don\'t care what was released last year.
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Think I better wait to hear Martha Stewart\'s opinion before I decide between xbox and GC :rolleyes:
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I can\'t believe some of you guys are taking this article seriously. Who\'s with me when I say anyone who gives the Xbox controller a 5, the PS2 controller a 4, and the NGC a 3 is not a reliable source.
Quote from PopSci:
Project Gotham Racing is hands-down the most realistic driving simulation I\'ve ever played.
I think even the hardcore PGR fans would disagree with this. PGR is not a driving simulation. It\'s a racing game, hence the name Project Gotham Racing. Even more evidence that this guy is not a reliable source (and even more evidence of what I\'m going to say in my last paragraph is true).
When they are ranking SPEED of the system, are they talking about how Halo runs at 30FPS and most of the PS2 games released at the same time run at 60 FPS, or are they talking about processor speed which is a completely irrelevant thing to compare when comparing video game systems? This guy is a moron.
I don\'t think this article was written by Popular Science alone. I think they had a little help from their best friend $$$Money Hat$$$.
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not FPS the loading times..
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pfft, anyone who says not to get a PS2 unless you want games is laughable...
absolutely rediculous article, and you people need to actually think about it if your taking it seriously
i see no need for you to get a PS2 unless you want games quick, X-Box will have games (im assuming) because its a better machine with prettier graphics.
asswipe
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Well, it\'s no front cover of Newsweek.. but it\'s a start I guess. :p
Pssst.. most non-gamer system reviews are pure BS. Weither it\'s N\'gai Coral or this lame fukk. They don\'t know what their talking about. Play it yourself and make up your own mind, or at least read reviews by people who do this stuff for a living. Listening to this guy is like asking your local greeseball-hilljack auto-mechanic who makes the better processor: AMD or Intel.
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Originally posted by Mish
not FPS the loading times..
You would think he, a PS2 owner, has at least heard of Jak and Daxter. If load times is what he meant by "SPEED", then I\'ll stick with my original comment: This guy is a moron.
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Soul Reaver has 1 load time, when you start the game. Thats it. I think its the same with Jak & Daxter - thats what Iron Fist is getting at
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I luv this kinda stuff:laughing: . This guy has no idea what the fuc he is talking about! its soo funny. First, what is that ghetto ass controller doing on the ps2? LOL. I just had a thought. Maybe he thought that that contrlloer was the reall thing! :laughing: what a moron! You guys said most of the things i had to say. Thanx:D.
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Ha Ha Ha Ha! He said that he see\'s no reason to buy a ps2 except some quick games.:laughing: He also said that the grafix in tony hawks pro skater 2x was enough to play the game! First of all, "grafix whore", and second, the models in thps2x were just small advancements over thps2 on dreamcast. I doesnt look as good as the beatiful one on ps2, (wich is also better than the gamecubes, not really grafix but in pretty much everything else).
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They\'re certainly right on some things but wrong on alot of others. We\'ve yet to see a really good comparison of the consoles.
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
I just had a thought. Maybe he thought that that contrlloer was the reall thing! :laughing: what a moron! You guys said most of the things i had to say. Thanx:D. [/COLOR]
lol. I didn\'t even notice that ugly controller they had in the pic. Where are the analog sticks?
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You know it doesn\'t really matter. People who know enough about consoles aren\'t looking in PS for opinions. THis article will have an effect on casual people and the xbox has been getting a lot of these "misinformed" articles lately. For people who don\'t visit forums or keep up, this stuff is gospel.
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What the hell does science have anything to do with gaming?
None.
Stick to chemistry you labrats!
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WTf.. He didn\'t even use the first party Ps2 controller and he\'s claming that the Xbox has abetter controller.. AAAAAAH what a bunch of SH!t.. And Ps2 graphics 3 little football things only?? Has this guy even seen MGS2 yet??
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come on people....you cant honestly be taking this garbage seriously....he\'s been paid by microsoft or someone to write htat piece of garbage...
no jounalistic integrity...
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PS is an America-only magazine right? Hopefully MS doesn\'t give money hats to too many other magazines across the world, or this may actually have an impact on their future.
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I\'ve never even seen that third party PS2 controller. What the hell is it? Who the hell makes it? Who the hell would buy that? No analog sticks, not even six face buttons, it\'s obviously not a third partry fighter pad like ascii makes for its 2D fighters. What the hell is going on here? *Shrugs* The guy prolly knocked MGS2 because Snake could not do most of his actions without the pressure sensitive buttons.
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Come on guys, this could actually be this guy\'s real opinion no matter how stupid some of you think his opinion is. It\'s right to debate what he wrote, but why is it that everytime someone writes an article about Xbox being better than the PS2 some of you immediately swear that MS must have bought the guy off or paid for the write-up. Do you have any real proof that this is what actually happened? If some of you do, please post this proof so that we can all see it. I\'m not saying that it\'s not possible, but some of you guys act as if Sony Corp. are angels and never have any shady business practices.
What\'s even more hilarious is how some of you diss MS for the Xbox not living up to the hype, but totally excuse the grand claims that Sony made about the PS2 in it\'s beginning and everyone now knows how that turned out. I realize that this is a PS2 forum, but in order to have a FAIR discussion in console debate, couldn\'t we at least hold both companies to the same standards?
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Originally posted by kimathi
Come on guys, this could actually be this guy\'s real opinion no matter how stupid some of you think his opinion is. It\'s right to debate what he wrote, but why is it that everytime someone writes an article about Xbox being better than the PS2 some of you immediately swear that MS must have bought the guy off or paid for the write-up. Do you have any real proof that this is what actually happened? If some of you do, please post this proof so that we can all see it. I\'m not saying that it\'s not possible, but some of you guys act as if Sony Corp. are angels and never have any shady business practices.
first of all...its how he states his opinion...its an article discussing the three consoles and which to buy...he spends the whole time talking about how \'great\' XBox is with these lame excuses... he obviously hasnt researched anything, he obviously has some ****ty PS2 controllers, he has obviously neglected lots of facts, he even said we shouldnt buy a PS2 unless you want games! AND LOTS OF THEM!, he is obviously a hack
Originally posted by kimathi
What\'s even more hilarious is how some of you diss MS for the Xbox not living up to the hype, but totally excuse the grand claims that Sony made about the PS2 in it\'s beginning and everyone now knows how that turned out. I realize that this is a PS2 forum, but in order to have a FAIR discussion in console debate, couldn\'t we at least hold both companies to the same standards?
i dont see how thats hilarious..but...i cant tell you that if you were here for the PS2 launch, you would have noticed quite a bit of flack going its way for not living up to the hype, and the DreamCast was in the same position that PS2 was in for that article...dont make ignorant assumptions...
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Originally posted by kimathi
Come on guys, this could actually be this guy\'s real opinion no matter how stupid some of you think his opinion is. It\'s right to debate what he wrote, but why is it that every time someone writes an article about Xbox being better than the PS2 some of you immediately swear that MS must have bought the guy off or paid for the write-up.
Whether or not MS paid PopSci to write this article does not change my opinion of the utter garbage coming out of this writer\'s mouth. I have always respected PopSci for their up-to-date coverage on the latest technology, but this article is just awful. Either he actually believes the things he wrote (and he should get fired for writing such an obviously biased article), or PopSci was paid to praise the Xbox.
I have no proof that Microsoft is giving out money hats, but I do know that Microsoft is trying to force itself into this market by any means necessary. With previous buyouts of companies like Bungie and Oddworld (or whatever their company is called), and with the buyout reputation that Microsoft has (as of January 21st, my Qwest internet account will become my MSN internet account :rolleyes: ), can you blame me for thinking that biased articles like this were paid for?
Sony has never been this bad. They got into this industry by luck (as well as some smart decisions), not by throwing their financial muscle around.
What\'s even more hilarious is how some of you diss MS for the Xbox not living up to the hype, but totally excuse the grand claims that Sony made about the PS2 in it\'s beginning and everyone now knows how that turned out.
The PS2 launch was a whole year ago. Of course we know that the PS2 didn\'t live up to all the hype, and we discussed that months and months ago. We can only dwell on that for so long before we move on. Now it\'s Microsoft\'s turn. Also, the anti-PS2 people bashed and mocked the PS2 launch a year ago, so why shouldn’t the PS2 fans get their sweet revenge now? ;)
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IronFist...i just said that..... :D
only mine was shorter....jeez, your nothing but a hack ;)
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Because it took me so long to type my reply up (I was taking breaks to read different threads ;)), you got your response posted before me. I\'m not about to delete what I typed just because someone beat me to it though. ;) Just think of it as me backing you up.
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but yours is longer than mine and gives off the impression that your smarter than me! (yeah, right ;))
no toot :fro:
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Originally posted by Bran Muffin
i dont see how thats hilarious..but...i cant tell you that if you were here for the PS2 launch, you would have noticed quite a bit of flack going its way for not living up to the hype, and the DreamCast was in the same position that PS2 was in for that article...dont make ignorant assumptions...
At first I was going to go into some long drawn out post responding to your reply, but just forget it. It makes no difference to me what you believe. Whatever helps you sleep at night man.
As far as me being here for Ps2\'s launch, I was. Maybe I didn\'t register as a member, but I was here and to tell you the truth, one of the reasons I don\'t own a PS2 right now is b/c of some of the complaints made by Ps2 fans themselves saying the console didn\'t live up to the hype, only at this point that\'s just the tip of the iceberg as far as reasons go for me not owning a PS2.
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Originally posted by kimathi
At first I was going to go into some long drawn out post responding to your reply, but just forget it. It makes no difference to me what you believe. Whatever helps you sleep at night man.
what the hell does that mean?? or were you referring to the first part of my post? cos that would make more sense... i dont ACTUALLY believe he is paid by MS, but it wouldnt surprise me... but if you think he was being completely professional and unbiased, you my friend are the one who is being ignorant in an attempt to sleep at night...
WHY WOULD ANY PROFESSIONAL TELL YOU NOT TO GET A PS2 UNLESS YOU WANT GAMES!?!?! WHY WOULD YOU GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO MAKE SURE THE READER KNOWS THE XBOX WOULD GET GAMES??? only a biased opinionated person would do that... his article is so flawed its not funny, and your defending it? and arguing against me, im just pointing out the flaws, sorry if you thought i was trying to sound like a Sony fanboy(although i did a pretty good job at it ;))...
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:laughing:
Pathetic..
First sign of bias was when he called GameCube a lunchbox.. And then a kiddie system..
:laughing:
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Originally posted by IronFist
The PS2 launch was a whole year ago. Of course we know that the PS2 didn\'t live up to all the hype, and we discussed that months and months ago. We can only dwell on that for so long before we move on. Now it\'s Microsoft\'s turn. Also, the anti-PS2 people bashed and mocked the PS2 launch a year ago, so why shouldn’t the PS2 fans get their sweet revenge now? ;)
IronFist, I\'m not trying to change your mind about the article itself b/c I don\'t really care that you disagree with it or not. I specificaly stated that WHAT the guy wrote about should be debated. Personally, some of what the guy wrote I do agree with and some of you guys do too b/c you\'ve stated some of the same things yourselves but b/c this guy comes out so openly with this article, some of you now have a problem with it.
As far as MS trying to force themselves into the industry all I can say to that is.......welcome to the real world. Damn right MS is trying to force itself into the console market, b/c do you honestly believe that Sony and Nintendo is going to welcome them with open arms and say "Glad ta see ya guys and btw, take all these extra customers b/c we don\'t need all those extra, nasty billions to be made, holding us back". You speak of MS buying out talent, but you disregard Sony pressuring Squaresoft into not developing for anyone else or only on a limited basis. That sounds like a double standard to me coming from you.
Sony got into this business to steal away some of the millions that Nintendo and Sega were making first; the same thing MS is trying to do now, no difference.
I only brought up the launch issue as an example to shed some light on what I think is a lot of bias in this thread expressed against MS b/c of what someone else wrote. As I\'ve stated before, yes debate the points of the article, but you brought up that MS must have had a personal hand in shaping that article and that is ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Bran Muffin
what the hell does that mean?? or were you referring to the first part of my post? cos that would make more sense... i dont ACTUALLY believe he is paid by MS, but it wouldnt surprise me... but if you think he was being completely professional and unbiased, you my friend are the one who is being ignorant in an attempt to sleep at night...
WHY WOULD ANY PROFESSIONAL TELL YOU NOT TO GET A PS2 UNLESS YOU WANT GAMES!?!?! WHY WOULD YOU GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO MAKE SURE THE READER KNOWS THE XBOX WOULD GET GAMES??? only a biased opinionated person would do that... his article is so flawed its not funny, and your defending it? and arguing against me, im just pointing out the flaws, sorry if you thought i was trying to sound like a Sony fanboy(although i did a pretty good job at it ;))...
Well all I can say at this point is that we\'re definately at an impasse, and that I won\'t change your mind and my opinion won\'t change, so I\'m through with it b/c it would be pointless to continue this debate. So it\'s still all good.
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kimathi,
for someone that claims they don\'t care you sure use a lot of words show it.
While a few people hear did argue specific parts of the article to show how ridiculous it was, I think many here probably feel the same way I do, to a serious gamer the article was absurd on so many levels we just dismissed it and moved on. The damn thing reeks of having been paid for, whether it actually was or that proof should be offered to that effect is of no consequence. This is just a place to talk about games/systems/opinions, no need to pretend our chat it will affect the world of gaming like a court of law. I tend to look at boards like these as a barometer of what\'s going on in the gaming world, not a means to try and sway it one way or another.
Take for example the assumption Sony has forced Square to remain exclusive to PS2. There\'s no proof it is so and in fact there\'s been statements released by both companies to the contrary. Common sense should tell you Square is in no position to be spreading themselves thin at the moment yet you just accept Square has been bought out by Sony to the degree where they won\'t ever make games for anyone else. While it may be a reasonable assumption it has no more solid basis than some of us suspecting the article in question is just part of the MS xbox PR campaign. Agree or disagree if you want. Demanding the article be seriously debated or else proof of payola in the writing of it so we can have our say, in light of how silly I found the article, is utter nonsense. Have a good look at your own bias before you complain about the bias of others.
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what the **** does it matter if the xbox is technical superior to the ps2, it just depends on what the public is ready for, We\'ve had a 128 bit machine sort or less equal to the ps2 for 3 years, did that matter? Hell no they\'re ****ing broke now selling their souls to the evil sony corporation.Sony knows of this little bug in consumers minds and has fine tuned their marketing schemes to the braindead level that most of us live on, it kinda reminds me of the instinctal urge of people to go stand in line in front of an atm machine while less than 3 metres next to it there\'s an unused one, Introducing far inferior technologies wich they praise as the best around using the "failures" of other companies like sega as research and then when time is ripe make their move. It\'s a freakin dog eat dog world out there and the gaming industry is no exception!Like with every commercial product, ****, it\'s not what you\'re selling its how you sell it and when, and the when is even more important than the how so i don\'t need your oversimplified moronic comparison telling me what to buy .i don\'t ****ing know who you are and i don\'t care the least bit but publishing something like that is an outrage. the mere thought that some people even might consider this some kind of valuable information makes me pissed off! people like you have no buissiness writing about that **** especially a lowlife sellout like you. you\'re no better than the big videogame corporations ripping us off. So get a freakin ******* and start pirating!
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i\'m also outraged for the ****ing ******** what the hell is that about??is it a sin to say **** you i thought we\'d all moved passed that. this MUST be an american board goddamn hypocrites!
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The more I read this article the more I become convinced that it is some hack photoshop job, or some kind of scam cooked up by an obsesive Xbox fanboy. Now normaly I would be the last person to propose any kind of a conspiracy theory when I see one (or two) of the consoles I like getting bashed, but lets analyze the article to find the evidence.
1. The subtitle for the article reads "Don\'t buy a PS2, GC or X-Box until you read this article". Okay that\'s fine, the reader can expect a fairly well balanced comparisson of all three consoles. But then the author opens by saying that since he\'s already played the PS2 at home he\'ll just dissmiss it! WTF is this supposed to mean? Even if this idiot author already played the system he should assume that readers of the article have not, and hence he has a responibility as a journalist to inform them of its characteristics and features.
2. Next he goes and states that the Gamecube looks more like a "lunchbox" than a "serious game machine". Everyone knows that the term lunchbox is something your average message board fanboy spews around as a jab at the Gamecube\'s design, and no serious journalist would be likely to draw this parallel. Any serious journalist would also remember to note that the GC is available in 5 colors in addition to purple.
3. The author then goes on to make typical fanboy defenses of all of the points that the Xbox is normally criticized on. Starting of with the fact that some games look rather lackluster (4x4 Evo and NHL Hitz 2002), but he dissmisses this by saying that they are "not worthy of such a powerful plataform." Then he states that all the other games are keepers, which is obviously a blatant exaggeration (although this could geniuinely be attributed to presonal taste it seems unlikely that anyone would make such a statement. The author names PGR and Halo as outstanding titles, which is reasonable enough, although he mistakenly calls PGR a simulation. Now I might be streching my conspiracy theory a bit much with this one, but it seems possible that he could have called PGR a simulation so as to make it seem that it competes directly with GT3 and, if you believe his statements, beats it "hands down". Next he mentions two lackluster titles, with mediocre graphics at best, as titles worth trying for the graphics. It seems to me these were the only other titles this loser had in his collection, why else would he mention such an unusual pair of games? Lastly he defends the Xbox\'s akward controller with the typical "once you get used to it it\'s great!"
4. His comparison of Madden on all three consoles is just wrong. Although Madden might look slightly better on Xbox than the other two systems (and I\'m not even sure you can tell the difference between the GC and Xbox version) there is now way that it blows them away. As a matter if you want to "shed some serious light" on the graphics issue Madden 2002 is probably the worst possible game you could choose, due to the fact that all 3 versions are nearly indistinguishable.
5. Lastly, his conclusion just screams biased. He glorifies the Xbox, disregards the GC as a kiddy system, and then goes on to say that unless you want to actually play games on your system as soon as you purchase it you shouldn\'t even bother with the PS2.
Well, that was my shot at being a conspiracy theorist. I hope it didn\'t sound overtly ridiculous, but I guess we\'ll know when somebody actually reads Pop. Sience issue Feb. 2002.
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kangu-G^Ltt^s and Heretic summed this one up quite nicely, but I\'m still going to reply to you Kimathi.
Originally posted by kimathi
As far as MS trying to force themselves into the industry all I can say to that is.......welcome to the real world. Damn right MS is trying to force itself into the console market, b/c do you honestly believe that Sony and Nintendo is going to welcome them with open arms and say "Glad ta see ya guys and btw, take all these extra customers b/c we don\'t need all those extra, nasty billions to be made, holding us back".
You missed my point entirely. I was not blaming Microsoft for trying to break into the industry. I was pointing out exactly why I thought it was resonable to believe that Microsoft paid PopSci to write that article. They have done these kinds of things many times before, and in order to break into the industry they know that they\'ll have to do everything they can -- even paying magazines to give great reviews of the Xbox.
You speak of MS buying out talent, but you disregard Sony pressuring Squaresoft into not developing for anyone else or only on a limited basis. That sounds like a double standard to me coming from you.
I don\'t think you know all the facts about the Sony/Square situation. Last I heard, Square wanted to develope for the GBA. But in order for Nintendo to allow Square to develope for the GBA, Square had to develope some of their best games on the NGC. Can you blame Square for turning down that offer? (because they would obviously get a lot less money if they released their games on the NGC instead of the PS2). I don\'t blame Nintendo either though, because they don\'t need Square to make the GBA successful.
Sony got into this business to steal away some of the millions that Nintendo and Sega were making first; the same thing MS is trying to do now, no difference.
Like I said, I don\'t mind that Microsoft is trying to get into the industry. I just don\'t like the way they are doing it.
As I\'ve stated before, yes debate the points of the article, but you brought up that MS must have had a personal hand in shaping that article and that is ridiculous.
No it\'s not. I gave you reasons why it isn\'t rediculous above.
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Originally posted by Heretic
kimathi,
for someone that claims they don\'t care you sure use a lot of words show it.
While a few people hear did argue specific parts of the article to show how ridiculous it was, I think many here probably feel the same way I do, to a serious gamer the article was absurd on so many levels we just dismissed it and moved on. The damn thing reeks of having been paid for, whether it actually was or that proof should be offered to that effect is of no consequence. This is just a place to talk about games/systems/opinions, no need to pretend our chat it will affect the world of gaming like a court of law. I tend to look at boards like these as a barometer of what\'s going on in the gaming world, not a means to try and sway it one way or another.
Take for example the assumption Sony has forced Square to remain exclusive to PS2. There\'s no proof it is so and in fact there\'s been statements released by both companies to the contrary. Common sense should tell you Square is in no position to be spreading themselves thin at the moment yet you just accept Square has been bought out by Sony to the degree where they won\'t ever make games for anyone else. While it may be a reasonable assumption it has no more solid basis than some of us suspecting the article in question is just part of the MS xbox PR campaign. Agree or disagree if you want. Demanding the article be seriously debated or else proof of payola in the writing of it so we can have our say, in light of how silly I found the article, is utter nonsense. Have a good look at your own bias before you complain about the bias of others.
Heretic all I can say is this, the article was that guy\'s opinion and opinions can\'t be proven right or wrong; yours ,mine or anyone\'s so I try to stay away from proving or disproving opinions, but the statement that MS paid for the article is no longer an opinion but it is an accusation. I brought up Square in order to show that BOTH companies could be accused of shady business practices using that kind of logic. That is all I was trying to point out. I try to keep my own bias in check everytime that I post, do you try to do the same?
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a one page article in popular science doesn\'t deserve this much attention from ya\'s
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Okay, who actually even read Popular Science?
Even my science teachers don\'t read that crap.
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Okay, who actually even read Popular Science?
Even my science teachers don\'t read that crap.
I used to all the time. It is actually a very good and up-to-date magazine. That is another reason why I think this article has been paid for. In all the years that I have read it, I have never seen an article this biased -- not even when the overly-hyped PS2 was the system in the spotlight in the Summer of 2000.
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Originally posted by IronFist
I used to all the time. It is actually a very good and up-to-date magazine. That is another reason why I think this article has been paid for. In all the years that I have read it, I have never seen an article this biased -- not even when the overly-hyped PS2 was the system in the spotlight in the Summer of 2000.
.............what I subscribe to.........
one word.....
Maxim.
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LOL ddaryl, that\'s the best advice yet. IronFist and others, I can\'t say that I quite agree with your POV but I realize that you can\'t agree with mine, so let\'s call a truce and end this difference in opinion.
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Originally posted by kimathi
IronFist and others, I can\'t say that I quite agree with your POV but I realize that you can\'t agree with mine, so let\'s call a truce...
Of course. But what\'s the need for a truce? I don\'t have anything against you for what you said. I just have a different point of view than you do.
...and end this difference in opinion.
Sorry, but my opinion is staying the same. Just because we have a difference in opinion doesn\'t mean we can\'t get along though. :) See you in the next Console Debating thread. :)
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There is no way that article was paid for. It would be very bad PR if that ever got out and MS has been getting many glowing unsolicited write-ups without its money. Why would they risk the integrity of all of those honest opinions for one article in a 3rd rate magazine? It makes no sense.
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The reason Microsoft would risk it all is because, really, they need to. They are fighting an uphill battle and need to pull every trick in the book in order to be successful. This one biased article could persuade millions of people to buy an Xbox over the PS2 and NGC -- so I think it is well worth the risk of getting caught. But there really is no way to prove one way or the other, so, meh.
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MS is doing really well right now, there is no need to panic. Accuastions like that sounds like stuff straight out of ign.ps2, totally ridiculous.
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oh my god.... He did not just say that project gotham is thhe best driving simulator around.... "gives reviewer a swift kick in the ass"
What a maroon, like said above, "it\'s all about the gameplay, not the graphics" and to say X Box is better mearly because the graphics and not the game is obsured, now i own both consoles and have had a good time playng each, PS2 is the best hands down, the big selection of games "good games for that matter" eclipse X Boxes selection, but mostly all "excluding FF series" will be ported to the X Box in due time. w can\'t judge X Box gameplay wise just yet because it only launched 2 months ago. we will have to give it more time to bloom before we start making any "X Box games suck" comments to do it now is just rediculouse.
well anyways PS2 is the best of the 2 at the moment, but X Box still kicks ass.
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This article is dumb. For reading it, we have all been penalized several IQ points. However, I am going to avoid letting anyone post anything more regarding this heeping pile of cow dung. Topic closed.