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Title: A couple new good quality Metroid pics.
Post by: IronFist on January 12, 2002, 03:34:57 AM
http://www.nintendo.com/games/gamepage/screenshots.jsp?gameId=593

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It looks like it\'s coming along quite nicely. :)  I hope they can pull it off and make this game good, even though it is completely different from the previous Metroid games.
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Post by: Metal_Gear_Ray on January 12, 2002, 04:27:06 AM
Im not impressed since I have never played metroid
Looks decent, but nothing ps2 couldn\'t do

Look no way like the FMV from spaceworld
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Post by: mm on January 12, 2002, 05:58:32 AM
*yawn*

i want 2D back
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Post by: SER on January 12, 2002, 06:53:06 AM
Never even played Metroid thoroughly enough to enjoy it.. Screens look nice though.
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Post by: rastalant on January 12, 2002, 08:29:32 AM
hmmmmmmmmm.......its looks....um.......different than other metroid games...........
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Post by: unknown on January 12, 2002, 10:35:50 AM
why couldn\'t they stick to origional.

well at least thier aiming high, i will be very surprised if they actually make this fps cool.
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Post by: Claypool 2001 on January 12, 2002, 01:09:00 PM
Are you guys on crack? That looks amazing and very fun.  Yes, I would like to have seen a 2-D game but comon, with the technology today, 2-D games are out.  Its either going to make or break the Metroid series, but I will still get this one, sweet ass
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Post by: ajoh432 on January 12, 2002, 01:26:24 PM
Looks good, I miss the old game... I forget what 2-D is like....



I remember one game I was always addicted to was Bionic Commando... Fun game, I died too much though... Back then that is....
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Post by: M4 on January 12, 2002, 01:30:24 PM
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Originally posted by rastalant
hmmmmmmmmm.......its looks....um.......different than other metroid games...........

Thank you for pointing out the blatantly obvious.
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Post by: Watchdog on January 12, 2002, 01:48:28 PM
They shouldn\'t call this game Metroid, because it\'s not Metroid, its a FPS.  This is N just cashing in on a name.  I hate it when companies do that.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 12, 2002, 02:49:28 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
They shouldn\'t call this game Metroid, because it\'s not Metroid, its a FPS.  This is N just cashing in on a name.  I hate it when companies do that.


Watchdog, your a moron obviously because this is Metroid. If that isn\'t Samus then who is it?

That game is gonna kick some serious butt! I wanna play it!
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Post by: ddaryl on January 12, 2002, 03:09:26 PM
they look pretty cool to me

but I never played the original Metroid so I can\'t relate to some of your angst
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Post by: SonyFan on January 12, 2002, 03:19:40 PM
Looks good. Not like metroid though, more like a Quake III total conversion with a Metroid theme. It\'ll be interesting to see how well they can pull off some of the classic moves. Good idea to move the release date back. I\'d rather it be late commin out and good, than rushed and crappy.
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Post by: Bozco on January 12, 2002, 04:27:53 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake


Watchdog, your a moron obviously because this is Metroid. If that isn\'t Samus then who is it?

That game is gonna kick some serious butt! I wanna play it!



No, I would have to say your the moron, he said that because they changed Metroid from its roots, the very thing that made the first one great is now gone.  The only bright side I can see to this is that the GC doesn\'t have any FPS, and PD0 won\'t be out for a while
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Post by: rastalant on January 12, 2002, 08:44:46 PM
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Originally posted by Bozco



No, I would have to say your the moron, he said that because they changed Metroid from its roots, the very thing that made the first one great is now gone.  The only bright side I can see to this is that the GC doesn\'t have any FPS, and PD0 won\'t be out for a while


I agree bozco but of course nintendo fans won\'t admit it.........if they changed metriod in a puzzle game nintendo fanboys probably wouldn\'t say nothing......... Metriod as a FPS just isn\'t meant to be........
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Post by: Watchdog on January 12, 2002, 08:55:49 PM
Thanks for the assistence guys.  The game may turn out to be wonderful, I\'m not disputing that, I think it\'s wrong to use a name like this just to sell it.

Metroid isn\'t a charcter he was a game, they\'ve completely changed the game, but the designers aren\'t secure in their game making abilities so they have to resort to sticking the metroid label on it to help it sell.  It\'s decietful.

Why is that Nintendo fans are the most defensive?
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Post by: rastalant on January 12, 2002, 08:58:52 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Thanks for the assistence guys.  The game may turn out to be wonderful, I\'m not disputing that, I think it\'s wrong to use a name like this just to sell it.

Metroid isn\'t a charcter he was a game, they\'ve completely changed the game, but the designers aren\'t secure in their game making abilities so they have to resort to sticking the metroid label on it to help it sell.  It\'s decietful.

Why is that Nintendo fans are the most defensive?


No pro. watchdog...:) No wonder your one of my fav. poster watchdog you think smart....  Thank you!!!!!  About time someone said it nintendo fans are by far the most defensive worried you will say something bad about there little consoles.  This is what I have to tell them nintendo fans.......GET OVER  IT !!!!not everyone is going to like the same systems.  I know when someone said something bad about M$ its cool, but when it comes to nintendo its just "wrong" to do that.  Well I guess I like to be "wrong" then.........
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Post by: SwifDi on January 12, 2002, 10:00:33 PM
Ugh, IT\'S METROID! Just in a different perspective!!!!! IT IS METROID! Setting is Planet Zelbes, Samus\' ship is back and that is SAMUS! AND I\'M SURE THAT THEY WILL LINK THE STORY LINE FROM THAT OF THE SNES VERSION. I\'M JUST REALLY TIRED OF BIASED GAMERS TRYING TO BASH ON NINTENDO.

He said They shouldn\'t call this game Metroid, because it\'s not Metroid, its a FPS . HE SAID THAT IT ISN\'T METROID, BUT IT IS. JUST CUZ\' NINTENDO LIKES TO TRY NEW THINGS DOESN\'T MEAN THAT THE ENTIRE GAME CHANGES FACE. Making Metroid 2d would be a waste of the Gamecube\'s power. The game rules, and I think it is now twice as good being in FP, kudos to Nintendo for dragging old franchises from the dirt, and giving them makeovers.

And for the record, I\'m not a "Nintendo Fan". I own a PS2 and love it to death, hell, I don\'t even own a GC. I\'m a "Gaming Fan" and love any system that plays games. I mean just buying a system is like buying a friggin\' car, with each year, as hardware costs rise, it seems that the allegiances of gamers to specific console manufacturers settle into more firmly solidified, blind partisanship. Forums and magazine letters columns are looking more like the bumper stickers on Ford and Chevy trucks every day. SO WHAT? Aside from replacing more objective looks at the relative strengths and weaknesses of a given system with the sloganeering of console manufacturers\' ad campaigns, such single-mindedness would seem to actually hurt us, the consumers. X-box doesn\'t suck, PS2 doesn\'t suck, GC doesn\'t suck, don\'t be biased against because you don\'t have it.
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Post by: rastalant on January 12, 2002, 10:07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Ugh, IT\'S METROID! Just in a different perspective!!!!! IT IS METROID! Setting is Planet Zelbes, Samus\' ship is back and that is SAMUS! AND I\'M SURE THAT THEY WILL LINK THE STORY LINE FROM THAT OF THE SNES VERSION. I\'M JUST REALLY TIRED OF BIASED GAMERS TRYING TO BASH ON NINTENDO.

He said They shouldn\'t call this game Metroid, because it\'s not Metroid, its a FPS . HE SAID THAT IT ISN\'T METROID, BUT IT IS. JUST CUZ\' NINTENDO LIKES TO TRY NEW THINGS DOESN\'T MEAN THAT THE ENTIRE GAME CHANGES FACE. Making Metroid 2d would be a waste of the Gamecube\'s power. The game rules, and I think it is now twice as good being in FP, kudos to Nintendo for dragging old franchises from the dirt, and giving them makeovers.


Trying new thing.............!??!!  Okay.............just get me a 2d metriod I would be happy with that.  As far as I\'m concered this isn\'t nothing but just another "FPS" to me...........if it doesn\'t play nothing like the old metriod then why would you call it that?
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Post by: SwifDi on January 12, 2002, 10:18:04 PM
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Originally posted by rastalant


Trying new thing.............!??!!  Okay.............just get me a 2d metriod I would be happy with that.  As far as I\'m concered this isn\'t nothing but just another "FPS" to me...........if it doesn\'t play nothing like the old metriod then why would you call it that?


1. If your happy with a 2d metroid, then keep playing the one on SNES, cuz\' your not gonna see one. Think of it like this, When Ben Franklin discovered electricity and everyone started using lights, no one went back to oil lamps. Your being Amish rastalant. With time, things change, go with the flow. 2d was kool, but it\'s fun to try new things.

2. We don\'t even know if it will play like the old Metroid or not, but regardless you can\'t say it\'s not Metroid. And maybe it\'s not even a FPS? Maybe it can alternate from FPS to 3d? You never know because there is too little info out there about the game.
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Post by: rastalant on January 12, 2002, 10:21:33 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake


1. If your happy with a 2d metroid, then keep playing the one on SNES, cuz\' your not gonna see one. Think of it like this, When Ben Franklin discovered electricity and everyone started using lights, no one went back to oil lamps. Your being Amish rastalant. With time, things change, go with the flow. 2d was kool, but it\'s fun to try new things.

2. We don\'t even know if it will play like the old Metroid or not, but regardless you can\'t say it\'s not Metroid. And maybe it\'s not even a FPS? Maybe it can alternate from FPS to 3d? You never know because there is too little info out there about the game.



Hmmmmmmm........I got a sulution for this thats why I don\'t have a gamecube..........thats why I got a ps2 and xbox instead and glad I did.  I mean I\'m not saying make every game 2d, but 3d and metriod isn\'t going to work for me......just like castevaina and contra in 3d doesn\'t work to well both 2d version of the games were better.  I just don\'t think nintendo should make it a FPS but its nintendo we\'re talking about they always do what they want..........just look at celda...............oh........no..........
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Post by: SwifDi on January 12, 2002, 10:26:49 PM
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Originally posted by rastalant



just look at celda...............oh........no..........


You know, thats a whole nother\' topic. I was disappointed with Nintendo\'s decsion to make Zelda a "Saturday Morning Cartoon". But it\'s still going to have Zelda\'s great and fun gameplay. And isn\'t that what matters most???
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Post by: rastalant on January 12, 2002, 10:28:48 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake


You know, thats a whole nother\' topic. I was disappointed with Nintendo\'s decsion to make Zelda a "Saturday Morning Cartoon". But it\'s still going to have Zelda\'s great and fun gameplay. And isn\'t that what matters most???


Just wish nintendo never showed that spaceworld 2000 demo THATS what I was expected then I got that trash celda instead.........
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Post by: pstwo on January 12, 2002, 10:31:49 PM
Nice screens.  I didn\'t know that Metroid game went 1st person.  Cool!!  Rastalant, got your PM but your box is full.
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Post by: rastalant on January 12, 2002, 10:36:50 PM
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Originally posted by pstwo
Nice screens.  I didn\'t know that Metroid game went 1st person.  Cool!!  Rastalant, got your PM but your box is full.


Cool try sending it again I\'ll delate one of my old ones...
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Post by: SER on January 12, 2002, 11:37:22 PM
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Originally posted by Claypool 2001
Are you guys on crack?


No but, I have a BIG crack.. Sorry, couldn\'t resist. :laughing:
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Post by: Bozco on January 13, 2002, 12:14:59 AM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Ugh, IT\'S METROID! Just in a different perspective!!!!! IT IS METROID! Setting is Planet Zelbes, Samus\' ship is back and that is SAMUS! AND I\'M SURE THAT THEY WILL LINK THE STORY LINE FROM THAT OF THE SNES VERSION. I\'M JUST REALLY TIRED OF BIASED GAMERS TRYING TO BASH ON NINTENDO.

And for the record, I\'m not a "Nintendo Fan". I own a PS2 and love it to death, hell, I don\'t even own a GC. I\'m a "Gaming Fan" and love any system that plays games.



Biased gamer???, please I\'m a fan of all systems, all I said was that they changed it from its roots, the one thing that made Metroid great has been changed, I didn\'t say anything about the story or anything else being gone, and I did point out that it could be a good thing to some people, since its a FPS and there aren\'t many FPS coming to GC
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Post by: SonyFan on January 13, 2002, 04:00:43 AM
Jus a few points real quick..

1. "Ugh, IT\'S METROID! Just in a different perspective!!!!! IT IS METROID!" - Vapor Snake

No, Metroid is a sidescrolling shooter. This game is a FPS with a Metroid theme. It might be fun, it might be game of the year, but it\'s not Metroid to those who grew up on the game.

2. "JUST CUZ\' NINTENDO LIKES TO TRY NEW THINGS DOESN\'T MEAN THAT THE ENTIRE GAME CHANGES FACE." - Vapor

First, please don\'t yell. Nintendo can go off in any new direction they want, but if they want to try something this radically new with an established and well loved franchise I\'d say it\'s better to make a whole new game... or a side game to Metroid. Sega trys new things all the time, but they don\'t bastardize their licences while doing it. They could also try new things without changing the gameplay. Mario64 for example, totally rearranged the traditional Mario game concept. However, the transition was a solid one from 2D to 3D because they kept the core gameplay the same.

3. "Think of it like this, When Ben Franklin discovered electricity and everyone started using lights, no one went back to oil lamps. Your being Amish rastalant." - Vapor

Actually, I see oil lamps and candles at nearly every outlet store in America. I wouldn\'t think anyone would stock them if they weren\'t selling. Being Amish would be if Rastalant would stick to 2D games only.. no 3D at all. There\'s nothing wrong with drooling over the latest advances in 3D technology AND wanting a few select games to stay 2D for the sake of the preserving the gameplay which made them great.

4. "Making Metroid 2d would be a waste of the Gamecube\'s power." - Vapor

Well.. maybe so.. but one could argue that Castlevania:SOTN was a waste of the PSX\'s power. Still didn\'t stop it from being one of the PSX\'s greatest games, and critically acclaimed by fans, reviewers, and causuals alike.

5. There is no fifth point as of now.
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Post by: Watchdog on January 13, 2002, 10:43:45 AM
Some people have a serious lack of logic.

Street Fighter is 2d and 3d--which is better?  Munch is 2d and 3d--which is better?  This isn\'t a very strong point (only two games, but I\'m sure there are others), but just because a game is 2d doesn\'t mean it is bad or a waste of power (love that one--isn\'t it Nintendo fanboys that say it\'s all about the games and not about specs or power?).  Just like making a 2d game 3d will not automatically make it great.

I don\'t want to play snes Metroid because it\'s old, my snes doesn\'t work and I\'m sick of it.  I want a new Metroid, not a FPS (of which there are thousands).  Why don\'t they call their next FPS Grand Turismo?  To me, that is as much a rape on the good name of GT as a Metroid FPS.

I doubt that Metroid will offer anything new to FPS that Valve, ID, Epic, Bungie or the thousands of mod makers haven\'t already done.  So what\'s my motivation for playing this game?  It\'ll be another FPS..it\'ll probably be a good one--it better be, but it won\'t be Metroid and it\'s therefore won\'t be reason enough to buy the console for.

I bought the PS2 because it was powerful and had promise (only now delivering, but that\'s another post), I bought the xbox for Halo (mostly) but also for Panzer, and Shenmue.

I have a console that can deliver great FPS, that is not a reason for me to purchase the GC.  I don\'t have a console that does old school twitch games (like 2d contra, metroid, blaster master, bionic commando etc).  If N ever came out with some old school games (you know from back when they were great), I\'d be the proud owner of 3 next gen consoles.

As it is N has some good games, that I can live without so long as my PS2 and xbox are around.
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Post by: Eiksirf on January 13, 2002, 10:46:59 AM
I never played the old Metroid games, but I must say that while pretty, this game doesn\'t look interesting to me.

I\'m sure it will turn out good, but I\'ve lost a lot of faith in the whole FPS genre...  Especially after playing Castlevania on GBA, I\'ve realized that 2D gaming is still a wonderful thing.

Anyway, the thing I really wanted to reply to is the idea that this is not a Metroid game.

The problem I have with that thought is that... it is.

It says Metroid right on the title and that makes it a Metroid game, doesn\'t it?  Oh wait, it\'s a FPS now so that means it\'s not really Metroid?

Then I guess Mario 64 wasn\'t really Mario since it wasn\'t 2D...

And GTA3 wasn\'t Grand Theft Auto since it wasn\'t an overhead game.

And Madden 2K2 isn\'t Madden since it started as a 2D game.

And FFX isn\'t really Final Fantasy since those games used to be good.  ;]

It\'s just a silly argument to have.  

Anyways, I\'ll give Metroid the benefit of the doubt, but I\'ll also admit that I\'m not really anticipating it that much.

-Eik
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Post by: Bozco on January 13, 2002, 02:33:59 PM
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
I never played the old Metroid games, but I must say that while pretty, this game doesn\'t look interesting to me.

I\'m sure it will turn out good, but I\'ve lost a lot of faith in the whole FPS genre...  Especially after playing Castlevania on GBA, I\'ve realized that 2D gaming is still a wonderful thing.

Anyway, the thing I really wanted to reply to is the idea that this is not a Metroid game.

The problem I have with that thought is that... it is.

It says Metroid right on the title and that makes it a Metroid game, doesn\'t it?  Oh wait, it\'s a FPS now so that means it\'s not really Metroid?

Then I guess Mario 64 wasn\'t really Mario since it wasn\'t 2D...

And GTA3 wasn\'t Grand Theft Auto since it wasn\'t an overhead game.

And Madden 2K2 isn\'t Madden since it started as a 2D game.

And FFX isn\'t really Final Fantasy since those games used to be good.  ;]

It\'s just a silly argument to have.  

Anyways, I\'ll give Metroid the benefit of the doubt, but I\'ll also admit that I\'m not really anticipating it that much.

-Eik



It shows that you never played the original, thats all I have to say
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Post by: Dajona on January 13, 2002, 04:34:29 PM
I own Super Metroid and it\'s a great game.  Unlike alot of Metroid fans I\'ve always felt an FPS which puts you in Samus\'s shoes would be really cool.  Like people wonder now I always wondered how much of the gameplay elements could be transferred into 3D.

Some things will have to be sacrificed but that doesn\'t mean it can\'t still be Metroid and still be great all in the same.  Mario 64 plays nothing like any Mario game before it yet it\'s still Mario and it\'s still a great game.

What I believe alot of people fail to realize is that it\'s not aiming to retain the traditional Metroid style but instead have add a new experience to the franchise that allows you to explore it differently.

We haven\'t been given any information on how the game will play but hopefully it\'ll establish something new in the FPS genre.  Miyamoto hates repeating ideas that have been done before so he probably has a couple tricks up his sleeve to make it stand out from the crowd.  Some games are referred to as Quake style, others GoldenEye styel, other Half-Life style, and still others Rainbow Six style.  Is there any reason why the game can\'t create it\'s own Metroid Prime style?  I\'m not saying it will but we\'ll just have to wait and see.  And if your a Nintendo fan you\'re used to waiting.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 13, 2002, 06:48:55 PM
BOTTOM LINE: There isn\'t enough info for people to even know that this game is 100% FPS, cuz\' there are rumors that it switches to 3d as well (i.e. MGS2).

And Nintendo rules at changing games faces. Look at Mario 64? Zelda Ocarina of Time? Wave Race? Donkey Kong 64? Mario RPG?

All were different, all kicked ass.
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Post by: Watchdog on January 13, 2002, 08:01:10 PM
Mario 64 was still a platformer with jumping puzzles and power ups--looking at the game anyone would recognize it as Mario.

Why do people say the Saturn really never had a Sonic game.  There were about 1/2 dozen games with Sonic in them, but none of them counted.  Why?  Because fundamental elements that make sonic what it is weren\'t in those games.

Anyone who loved and played the Metroid games knows that you can\'t capture that in a 3-d world.
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Post by: Bozco on January 13, 2002, 08:42:09 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Mario 64 was still a platformer with jumping puzzles and power ups--looking at the game anyone would recognize it as Mario.

Why do people say the Saturn really never had a Sonic game.  There were about 1/2 dozen games with Sonic in them, but none of them counted.  Why?  Because fundamental elements that make sonic what it is weren\'t in those games.

Anyone who loved and played the Metroid games knows that you can\'t capture that in a 3-d world.



Couldn\'t have said it better myself
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Post by: SonyFan on January 13, 2002, 08:48:20 PM
"Anyone who loved and played the Metroid games knows that you can\'t capture that in a 3-d world." - Watchdog

Oh I think you can. I just don\'t see where it\'s feasable in a FPS without some MAJOR overhauls to the game engine and a fundimental shift in the way FPS\'s are made. So far, these screenshots are showing nothing of the sort.

BTW: If the age is a factor in weither or not you\'ll play/enjoy a game, then personally I find you one sad excuse for a gamer. That\'s jus my opinion tho.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 13, 2002, 09:37:47 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog

Why do people say the Saturn really never had a Sonic game.  There were about 1/2 dozen games with Sonic in them, but none of them counted.  Why?  Because fundamental elements that make sonic what it is weren\'t in those games.

 


Sonic Adventure went 3d, that was most definately a Sonic game.
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Post by: rastalant on January 13, 2002, 09:39:11 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Mario 64 was still a platformer with jumping puzzles and power ups--looking at the game anyone would recognize it as Mario.

Why do people say the Saturn really never had a Sonic game.  There were about 1/2 dozen games with Sonic in them, but none of them counted.  Why?  Because fundamental elements that make sonic what it is weren\'t in those games.

Anyone who loved and played the Metroid games knows that you can\'t capture that in a 3-d world.




I agree.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 13, 2002, 09:51:23 PM
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Originally posted by SonyFan
"Anyone who loved and played the Metroid games knows that you can\'t capture that in a 3-d world." - Watchdog

Oh I think you can. I just don\'t see where it\'s feasable in a FPS without some MAJOR overhauls to the game engine and a fundimental shift in the way FPS\'s are made. So far, these screenshots are showing nothing of the sort.

BTW: If the age is a factor in weither or not you\'ll play/enjoy a game, then personally I find you one sad excuse for a gamer. That\'s jus my opinion tho.


I agree with SonyFan. This is Nintendo. They can do anything. I\'m pretty sure you can still capture Metroid\'s "Feel" in a first person perspective.

Your not a true Metroid fan if you can\'t accept the change.
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Post by: rastalant on January 13, 2002, 10:24:01 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake


I agree with SonyFan. This is Nintendo. They can do anything. I\'m pretty sure you can still capture Metroid\'s "Feel" in a first person perspective.

Your not a true Metroid fan if you can\'t accept the change.



Uhhhhhhhh.....Retro Studios made it.........thats an american company...........If you don\'t accept metriod as a FPS your not a fan of it???!?!?!  Okay..........I guess if you don\'t accept celda cel-shaded your not a zelda fan.  Heck, at least from the looks of celda it seems to have a kept the same gameplay elements as the other zelda games.  Metriod on nes and snes doesn not play like a FPS and never will this isn\'t meant to be.........btw, metriod is being made by different developers.
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Post by: GmanJoe on January 14, 2002, 08:01:52 AM
2D games were fun back then - still is today.

Example :

I prefer Abe\'s Oddysee and Abe\'s Exoddus over the gameplay of Munch\'s Oddysee. Why? It\'s just more fun. Old school side scroller is not to be set aside when the fun factor is still there. Sure there\'s more potential in a 3D game. A 3D platformer can jump into a plane or car VOILA! You get a racing game or flying game - like Mario64 did(flying and swimming Mario).

But a lot of people still had more fun with Super Mario World 3 over Mario 64.

The problem with Metroid is - from a side scrolling 2D game, it jumped to FPS! It wouldn\'t be so bad if it was Zelda64 style, you can still see the character. But a FPS????? A bit much.

It\'s not even in the same genre.
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Post by: Watchdog on January 14, 2002, 08:16:00 AM
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BTW: If the age is a factor in weither or not you\'ll play/enjoy a game, then personally I find you one sad excuse for a gamer.
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I don\'t even know what this means.  What the hell are you trying to say?


Sonic did not go 3d on the Saturn.  It went semi 3d iso-perspective--it almost felt like Sonic was on a rail.  It did not capture what Sonic is.  You obviously didn\'t play it.

I can\'t imagine a FPS scenario or engine that can capture what metroid was.  Add that to the fact that it\'s in another developer\'s hands and I\'m not sure how anyone can say this is Metroid.  If Acclaim made an RPG using Street Fighter characters, would that be a SF game?  I\'m not sure how you can even argue this.
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Post by: Bozco on January 14, 2002, 11:23:02 AM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake


I agree with SonyFan. This is Nintendo. They can do anything. I\'m pretty sure you can still capture Metroid\'s "Feel" in a first person perspective.

Your not a true Metroid fan if you can\'t accept the change.



Yeah Nintendo can do anything:rolleyes: ,well it could be said that if you accept the change you aren\'t a true Metroid fan because its been changed from its roots
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Post by: GmanJoe on January 14, 2002, 04:23:12 PM
Yep. A whole new genre. From platformer to fps.
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Post by: M4 on January 14, 2002, 04:32:06 PM
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Your not a true Metroid fan if you can\'t accept the change.

I think we can determine for ourselves whether or not we\'re a true Metroid fan.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 14, 2002, 08:13:28 PM
-Watchdog
BTW: If the age is a factor in weither or not you\'ll play/enjoy a game, then personally I find you one sad excuse for a gamer.

Uh, are you talking to me, cuz\' I never said anything abou that?


And Rastalant, I never said that I didn\'t accept GC\'s new Zelda look, I said I was disappointed, but that I\'m sure it\'s gonna be a great game. I love Zelda so much and have so much faith in Nintendo that I know they\'ll make it a fun game.
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Post by: rastalant on January 14, 2002, 08:28:37 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
-Watchdog
BTW: If the age is a factor in weither or not you\'ll play/enjoy a game, then personally I find you one sad excuse for a gamer.

Uh, are you talking to me, cuz\' I never said anything abou that?


And Rastalant, I never said that I didn\'t accept GC\'s new Zelda look, I said I was disappointed, but that I\'m sure it\'s gonna be a great game. I love Zelda so much and have so much faith in Nintendo that I know they\'ll make it a fun game.


Thats the differences I lost all my faith in nintendo after snes.......it been downhill for me.  But back to the topic, I was expected the spaceworld 2000 which looked amazing but why did they have to  make it so kiddy looking?!?!!?  Whats up with that?  I know nintendo\'s kiddy but.........sheeesh...........
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Post by: SwifDi on January 14, 2002, 08:33:00 PM
Shiggy hinted towards the development of two Zelda\'s. The "Cel"da version. And one similiar to what you saw at Spaceworld.

I\'m sure that Shiggy will develop a mature one as well.
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Post by: rastalant on January 14, 2002, 08:43:59 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Shiggy hinted towards the development of two Zelda\'s. The "Cel"da version. And one similiar to what you saw at Spaceworld.

I\'m sure that Shiggy will develop a mature one as well.


Hmmmmmmmm........I sure hope so...........cause celda was a huge letdown.................
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Post by: Ryu on January 14, 2002, 09:08:42 PM
This is stupid.  Just had to say that before I started saying my piece and this is not to anyone in particular, but it\'s just a general statement.

2D games are good.

3D games are good.

People like what they want to like.

Whether or not a game is of a particular style or not is irrelevant IF YOU HAVE YET TO PLAY IT.  All a developer needs is some time, some foresight, some ingenuity, and some insight into how to make great games even better.  It just takes a little bit of love and patience.  Give it a chance, who knows, it could be the best thing since Halo with atmosphere great enough to dwarf even super metroid.  However, worry not, among all these Metroid screenshots for the cube, there\'s a new 2D metroid being developed for the GBA.  We get the best of both worlds as far as I\'m concerned.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 14, 2002, 09:13:41 PM
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Originally posted by Ryu
This is stupid.  Just had to say that before I started saying my piece and this is not to anyone in particular, but it\'s just a general statement.

2D games are good.

3D games are good.

People like what they want to like.

Whether or not a game is of a particular style or not is irrelevant IF YOU HAVE YET TO PLAY IT.  All a developer needs is some time, some foresight, some ingenuity, and some insight into how to make great games even better.  It just takes a little bit of love and patience.  Give it a chance, who knows, it could be the best thing since Halo with atmosphere great enough to dwarf even super metroid.  However, worry not, among all these Metroid screenshots for the cube, there\'s a new 2D metroid being developed for the GBA.  We get the best of both worlds as far as I\'m concerned.


I agree.

End of discussion.
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Post by: Watchdog on January 14, 2002, 09:17:09 PM
I never said that it wouldn\'t be good.  I\'m sure it will be.  But a 3d, FPS cannot capture metroid.  Bring me the 2d game and I\'ll be happy.
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Post by: rastalant on January 14, 2002, 09:22:00 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
I never said that it wouldn\'t be good.  I\'m sure it will be.  But a 3d, FPS cannot capture metroid.  Bring me the 2d game and I\'ll be happy.


So true........
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Post by: SwifDi on January 14, 2002, 09:25:34 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
I never said that it wouldn\'t be good.  I\'m sure it will be.  But a 3d, FPS cannot capture metroid.  


Isn\'t that practically saying it won\'t be good?
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Post by: rastalant on January 14, 2002, 09:27:20 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake


Isn\'t that practically saying it won\'t be good?


It can be good but it wouldn\'t have the same metriod "feel" due to nintendo changing the whole genre.  Metriod was a 2d side scroller  and now its a 3d FPS  which really aren\'t to similar.  A 2d metriod would feel more like the classic metriod games.
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Post by: Watchdog on January 14, 2002, 09:31:29 PM
No Vapor.  Read more carefully.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 14, 2002, 09:51:06 PM
Metroid = Good

Law of antonyms =

Not Metroid = Bad

Cannot Capture Metroid = Cannot Capture Good


You obviously don\'t think it will be good cuz\' you obviously yearn too much for a 2d version. I mean you might say, "This is fun........but I wish it was in 2d."
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Post by: rastalant on January 14, 2002, 09:58:41 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake
Metroid = Good

Law of antonyms =

Not Metroid = Bad

Cannot Capture Metroid = Cannot Capture Good


You obviously don\'t think it will be good cuz\' you obviously yearn too much for a 2d version. I mean you might say, "This is fun........but I wish it was in 2d."


Okay if it doesn\'t play or feel nothing like a metriod game why would they consider it a sequel.  A sequel has very similar gameplay elements to its previous version.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 14, 2002, 10:17:16 PM
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Originally posted by rastalant


Okay if it doesn\'t play or feel nothing like a metriod game why would they consider it a sequel.  A sequel has very similar gameplay elements to its previous version.


Okay, you\'ve just lost me.

Lets just end this discussion.


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Post by: Living-In-Clip on January 15, 2002, 06:25:18 AM
I am trying to block out Metriod Prime totally and look forward to the new 2D Metriod for the GBA and the port of Super Metriod to the GBA, and yet you people keep bringing up a FPS with the name of Metriod Prime?

Damn you!

Anyways, as for the actual topic. Yes, for a FPS it looks all stylish and what not. However, there is no way on this green earth you can recreate some of the elements that Super Metriod had with the FPS.

In short, it may be good (I doubt it...but, hey, I\'ll be nice..) but it won\'t be  Metriod...
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Post by: Watchdog on January 15, 2002, 08:21:04 AM
Hey LiC, Vapor won\'t understand that.  That\'s all I\'ve been saying, it\'ll probably be good, but they shouldn\'t call it metroid.  This is all I\'ve ever said.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 15, 2002, 05:31:52 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
, there is no way on this green earth you can recreate some of the elements that Super Metriod had with the FPS.


We\'ll never know that until we play it.
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Post by: Watchdog on January 15, 2002, 07:27:30 PM
Vapor have you even played Metroid?  There is no way a FPS can contain the elements of Metroid.  I don\'t have to play it to know.  A FPS is a FPS sure you can tweek it like HL or Tribes, throw in some vehicles, but it is still a FPS and no FPS will ever be Metroid.
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Post by: Bozco on January 15, 2002, 08:11:42 PM
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Originally posted by Vapor Snake


We\'ll never know that until we play it.


Did you ever play the first