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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: pstwo on January 30, 2002, 05:39:45 PM
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Got this info at CoreMagazine.com. 1 Trillion FLOPS per second? :eek: *Drinks orange soda*
http://www.coremagazine.com/news/5740.php3
01.30 7pm EST
"Sony\'s chief technical officer Shinichi Okamoto recently went on record with Famitsu regarding possible plans for the PlayStation 3. Specifically, Okamoto-san hinted that Sony\'s next game console may include processor technology codenamed \'CELL.\' Currently in the planning stages, the processor will be codeveloped by Sony, Toshiba, and IBM. Tentatively scheduled for completion by 2005, the processor will be capable of 1 Trillion FLOPS (floating-point operations per second). By comparison, the PlayStation 2 is capable of 6.2 Billion FLOPS. Variants of the \'CELL\' technology are expected to revolutionize content delivery and networking systems in the PC market as well."
The Xbox also does 1 Trillion per second.
""The superior graphics features are possible because Xbox has at least three times the graphics performance of the newest generation of game consoles—thanks to the custom designed NVIDIA Xbox GPU, capable of processing more than 1 trillion operations per second."
This is off of Nvidia.com here the link.
http://nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=xbox
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i wish I could do 1 trillion flops per second
and no where in that second quote does it state that the XBox can do 1 Trillian FLOPS per second..
also on that site:
The Xbox has 80 Gigaflops of computing power. That\'s equivalent to the power found in a Cray C94 supercomputer.
booyah, what the **** were you talking about?
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Please, let\'s not get into a specualtive specs argument.
This is all crap as far as I\'m concerned.
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"FLOP" is not the kind of word you want to brag about. How many average people know what "FLOP" means? :D
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
"FLOP" is not the kind of word you want to brag about. How many average people know what "FLOP" means? :D
I don\'t.
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Flop
Floating point operations
floating-point
A number representation consisting of a mantissa, M, an exponent, E, and an (assumed) radix (or "base") . The number represented is M*R^E where R is the radix - usually ten but sometimes 2.
Many different representations are used for the mantissa and exponent themselves. The IEEE specify a standard representation which is used by many hardware floating-point systems.
Basically a number that is either a fraction or a decimal based integer that is not a whole number
33.34567654 is a floating point number
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:laughing:
Thx double D, glad you cleared that up before I had to do it. :rolleyes:
Anyways, as far as I\'m concearned this is good news. Anything bringing revolutionary gaming to my house, I must applaud.
And by 2005 which isn\'t that far off BTW, I\'ll be able to afford SONY\'s new beast.
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The processor is scheduled to be completed by 2005, not the console.
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Mmmmmhmmmmmmm, and once you have a processor a console isn\'t too far behind. I often wonder sometimes why people even say things like that.
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and once you have a processor a console isn\'t too far behind. I often wonder sometimes why people even say things like that
First off, 2005 is a projected date, it\'s not soild, anything could happen. Also if the chip does come out 2005 it will take at least a year before the console is released.
Anyhow I really look forward to SONY\'s new console, I have a feeling it\'s going to kick major ass, and not turn out to be a dissapointment like PS2. I\'m sure Sony\'s has learned there lesson from the PS2. Hopefully Sony releases there console in JAPAN/North America 1 month apart. Don\'t you guy just hate it when something new like this comes out and you can\'t buy it for many months to come, when you know it\'s already out in the consumer market(japan\'s market)
Go Sony Go!.......same goes for MS, unfortunatly I can\'t say the same for Nintendo, I could care less what they have in store.
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
First off, 2005 is a projected date, it\'s not soild, anything could happen. Also if the chip does come out 2005 it will take at least a year before the console is released.
it might even be earlier :p
Originally posted by NVIDIA256
Anyhow I really look forward to SONY\'s new console, I have a feeling it\'s going to kick major ass, and not turn out to be a dissapointment like PS2. I\'m sure Sony\'s has learned there lesson from the PS2. Hopefully Sony releases there console in JAPAN/North America 1 month apart. Don\'t you guy just hate it when something new like this comes out and you can\'t buy it for many months to come, when you know it\'s already out in the consumer market(japan\'s market)
yah *still waiting for XBox and GameCube*..well...not me personally, but the country as a whole, we are biting our nails and feeling our testicular regions in anticipation..
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I said it Dajo because it\'s significant.
The PS3 won\'t be out for at least 2006--there is marketing, dev kits to be shipped, games to be made, console to be constructed, etc. Sure some of this will go on as the processor is being built, but there is no way the processor can be finalized and the console released in the same year. Testing alone will take that long.
Before you try to be a smart ass stop and think--logic wouldn\'t hurt either.
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It\'s 2002 now. Hmm....2006 is about right. That\'s only 4 years away.
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I agree with the guy that posted the third comment this is all crap to me as well.
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And you got to be kidding yourselves if you believe that an MS system won\'t be out around the same time.
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I don\'t give a flop...
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WHO cares i meanthe PS3 won\'t be out till late 2005- 2006 anyway.
i mean if you ask me it will be 2007 till we see the Working version of the PS3 anyways.
but what i do say is that itis KICK @ss that the PS3 will be PS2 backward compatable :D
i wonder if we can play our PSx games on it too :D.
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could it be, the next gen console for Sony....? Check it out!
http://www.misinformer.com/archive/01-01/15.html
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Just going by memory, sorry no link. The plan for the Cell, when the joint venture between IBM Toshiba and Sony was originally announced, was that it be made available and installed in applications other than PS3 a year prior to the consoles projected release date (2006). The object being to bring the costs to manufacture down so their next console launch wouldn\'t entail so much of a financial burden as the PS2 did. In other words, not because they need the extra year or so to get their console act together once the CPU is already in production.
Four years isn\'t that far off. Do you suppose in two years MS will leap ahead and start picking more parts off the shelf to modify? j/k
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Originally posted by Watchdog
I said it Dajo because it\'s significant.
The PS3 won\'t be out for at least 2006--there is marketing, dev kits to be shipped, games to be made, console to be constructed, etc. Sure some of this will go on as the processor is being built, but there is no way the processor can be finalized and the console released in the same year. Testing alone will take that long.
Before you try to be a smart ass stop and think--logic wouldn\'t hurt either.
Well Smartass or not, it really doesn\'t matter to me. This thing won\'t be out for a few years so I see no point in arguing over peoples statements. I\'m glad it makes you feel better to point all this out to me. Keep up the goodwork;)
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I pointed it out because you disputed it and responded like an ass. You made it a point to argue about it earlier, now that your opinion is clearly in the minority, you see it as a silly argument. Typical I suppose.
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Well Smartass or not, it really doesn\'t matter to me. This thing won\'t be out for a few years so I see no point in arguing over peoples statements. I\'m glad it makes you feel better to point all this out to me. Keep up the goodwork;)
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And once more you respond like an ass. I like your mature approach.
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people always look like an ass when they are arguing a losing battle...you should know this well Watchdog ;)
p.s. mm, turn the smilies back on!! or your in for it *shakes fist*
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Arguing sucks...
Also, I son\'t think they can friggin\' be absolutely sure what the next "PlayStation"...if it\'ll even have the same name again...power will be. It\'s still a few years away. Sheesh. They could surprise themselves or something. I heard it was going to be way more powerful, but that\'s just me.
Just wait a few more years...or something. Hatred over speculation is just immature and lame. So yeah...:) Peace
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they can say fairly accurately...they would be making the chip with those specs in mind...
its rough, give or take... possibly even more powerful
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Originally posted by Watchdog
I pointed it out because you disputed it and responded like an ass. You made it a point to argue about it earlier, now that your opinion is clearly in the minority, you see it as a silly argument. Typical I suppose.
And once more you respond like an ass. I like your mature approach.
Watchdog, if this your attempt to make yourself look cool(mature) then by all means keep it up. I never argued what I had said, I merely stated an opinion. Your the one that got your panties bunched up and proceeded in making it an argument. And it is silly, I simply said I might be able to afford this thing in 2005.
Honestly I don\'t see the "point" that you were trying to make. So yes I responded saying \'Mmmmmhmmmmmmm, and once you have a processor a console isn\'t too far behind.\' Did I say how far behind? No I didn\'t. This is just your attempt at making yourself look "mature" I guess.
And as I said earlier, if this makes you feel better please keep it up. Your surely not impressing me pointing out opinionated statements. This is hardly an argument to keep going on. It\'s off topic really and has no importance to this conversation. Call me what you like, but you make yourself look like the immature one calling people names.
Reply however you like I\'m done with this thread.
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This is priceless: "I\'m done with this thread--I am FAAAR too mature to read any more of this." We haven\'t hear this crap countless times before.
It\'s not my attempt to look mature, it\'s my attempt to point out (and I wasn\'t the only one who thought this in this thread) that you are an ass. This is a discussion board, people routinely place opinionated posts here.
This was a post about P3 specs. People were expecting a new console to correspond with the chip completion date.
Since this is a discussion, I added that it is unrealistic to expect the console during the same year the chip finishes construction.
You being "the ass" chimed in with, "Mmmmmhmmmmmmm, and once you have a processor a console isn\'t too far behind. I often wonder sometimes why people even say things like that." Now it is your perrogative to disagree, I have no problem with that, but it\'s the manner in which you did it, your tone and implications that I objected to. I was not the one to bring this thread down, it was you. Ass.
No you didn\'t mention when the console would ship, but clearly you were disputing my remark and implying that the console would indeed ship before I thought--all the while being a complete jackass.
When I and others said again that the console can\'t ship the same year, you responded, "Well Smartass or not, it really doesn\'t matter to me. This thing won\'t be out for a few years so I see no point in arguing over peoples statements. I\'m glad it makes you feel better to point all this out to me. Keep up the goodwork;)"
Well it obviously mattered to you because you made a post in the thread, and you did argue over "peoples statments" [sic] making you two things: a jackass and wrong (or at least the holder of a minority opinion).
Let\'s move on.
I point out (again) that you are an ass, others agree; everyone\'s happy.
You come back and dispute ever having an interest in this thread. Tell everyone that you are far above any of this and "claim" intellectuality and maturity.
These are the facts.
If we need any more evidence one only needs to look at your avatar to get a very clear indication of your maturity and mentality. You are a little little boy, with a proportionately sized mind.
But of course you\'ll never read this because you are done with thread so really this is all written in a vacuum. Ass.
BTW, your website sucks. Animated gifs should be left on clip art sites. Just my 2 cents.
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and I wasn\'t the only one who thought this in this thread) that you are an ass.
Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Watchdog
This is priceless: "I\'m done with this thread--I am FAAAR too mature to read any more of this." We haven\'t hear this crap countless times before.
It\'s not my attempt to look mature, it\'s my attempt to point out (and I wasn\'t the only one who thought this in this thread) that you are an ass. This is a discussion board, people routinely place opinionated posts here.
This was a post about P3 specs. People were expecting a new console to correspond with the chip completion date.
Since this is a discussion, I added that it is unrealistic to expect the console during the same year the chip finishes construction.
You being "the ass" chimed in with, "Mmmmmhmmmmmmm, and once you have a processor a console isn\'t too far behind. I often wonder sometimes why people even say things like that." Now it is your perrogative to disagree, I have no problem with that, but it\'s the manner in which you did it, your tone and implications that I objected to. I was not the one to bring this thread down, it was you. Ass.
No you didn\'t mention when the console would ship, but clearly you were disputing my remark and implying that the console would indeed ship before I thought--all the while being a complete jackass.
When I and others said again that the console can\'t ship the same year, you responded, "Well Smartass or not, it really doesn\'t matter to me. This thing won\'t be out for a few years so I see no point in arguing over peoples statements. I\'m glad it makes you feel better to point all this out to me. Keep up the goodwork;)"
Well it obviously mattered to you because you made a post in the thread, and you did argue over "peoples statments" [sic] making you two things: a jackass and wrong (or at least the holder of a minority opinion).
Let\'s move on.
I point out (again) that you are an ass, others agree; everyone\'s happy.
You come back and dispute ever having an interest in this thread. Tell everyone that you are far above any of this and "claim" intellectuality and maturity.
These are the facts.
If we need any more evidence one only needs to look at your avatar to get a very clear indication of your maturity and mentality. You are a little little boy, with a proportionately sized mind.
But of course you\'ll never read this because you are done with thread so really this is all written in a vacuum. Ass.
BTW, your website sucks. Animated gifs should be left on clip art sites. Just my 2 cents.
That sure is a lot of ass talk for an assumption Dajo4 never expressly made.
Come to think of it, how long was it between final completion of the almighty GPU chip in the xbox and launch date?
I have noticed lately, much of the time you (Watchdog) can act like a decent, normal, human being. You might want to lighten up and think about cutting the ass parade short next time the erg arises. Either that or start breaking the prozacs in half.
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Lol, that\'s pretty funny, Heretic.
Like I said I don\'t mind when people disagree with me or point out that I am flat out wrong--that has happened many times since I joined. I took offence to the manner in which he responded, his attitude and tone. That\'s it.
I\'m a reasonable person, but as I said in a different post, I have little patience for that kind of crap. In Dajo\'s own sig he says "You don\'t have to RESPECT me, but don\'t ever DISRESPECT me." Perhaps he should read his own sig.
If I am wrong, then I\'m wrong and I\'m a big enough person to admit that--I\'ve done it before. But he responded like an ass, and I was kind enough to point that out.