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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Ryu on February 16, 2002, 03:42:20 AM
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I\'ll start off with my impressions and you people can add, agree, disagree, or write up your own impressions as you see fit.
State of Emergency
When you start up SoE, you are given two different option modes called Chaos and Revolution. Both modes differ greatly from eachother, but the modes have their ups and downs.
First of all, in Revolution mode, you are given the option of two different characters, a tough hawaiian shirt wearing male lead, and a skirt wearing tough female lead. Both characters Have different attributes making them good or bad depending on what kind of player you are. The female is faster yet weaker and the male is stronger yet slower. All characters get the same sets of weapons regardless of their attributes.
After selecting your character, you are thrust into the first level of the game, the shopping mall. Here, a riot is already in progress and you start off by meeting up with a contact to prove your worthiness to the Freedom Fighter faction. Afterwards, several missions get layed out to you one after the other that are completed by following an arrow to a point and either collecting, killing, escorting, guarding, or destroying that particular area, item or person. 90% of the missions are divided up into these categories and it can get easily repetetive especially since the weapon placement is quite weak and unvaried in the beginning and tends to get quite boring.
However, in Chaos mode, the beauty of the game awaits. Here, players can run amok everywhere and anywhere dropping a piece of veritable Hell on the evil corporation. All the weapons in the game are placed here and boy are they a joy to use. The flamethrower, or what I call, the crowd calmer, is by far my favorite weapon. The rocket launcher and M-16 assault rifle is also a beautiful thing to behold. And nothing comes quite close to blowing your enemies heads off with a close up shotgun blast.
Gaining points in Chaos mode unlocks new areas and new characters allowing you to advance in the mode and choose the portion of the city you wish to fight in. This mode is times and has several other sub modes present in it, but the options are never lacking and a lot of the fun comes from just blowing the crap out of everything in site.
The few gripes that I have with the game are these:
- Poor Camera Control - It\'s too bad that such an exilerating game is ruined by something that by now, should have been mastered. How hard is it really to implement a full range of motion with the camera? A simple \'180\' turn move or a \'rear view\' mode would have done wonders with this game.
- Graphics - There is a hint of slowdown in some spots, but for the most part, it\'s quite brisk framerate wise. The problem with the graphics, for me at least, lies in the colorful cartoony style. I don\'t think that is particularly involving in a game depicting riots.
- Poor AI - Although the people react to your actions in real time, they mostly run around like headless chickens. All those rumors of police brutality and civilian beatings are purely false. For the most part, cops are about as oblivious to the riots as a tree. People get stuck on stairs and esclators and it\'s just frustrating wading through them to get there.
All in all, the game is quite refreshing. I\'m sure NOW will be up in arms over this one, but overall, it\'s a very entertaining game. The Revolution mode may become repetetive fast, but the Chaos mode will keep you hooked for hours on end. I know I\'m hooked on it. Pure mindless explosive. I love what I have played so far.
PS, sorry for the poor writing style, but it\'s 3.43AM and I need more SoE!
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This game looks really boring and from what I\'ve heard from others it actually is as boring as it looks...
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from what other say??? did you not read what Ryu just said??? he counts as being an \'other\'
maybe you shouldnt write it off so early..
nice read too Ryu..
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Thanks for that Ryu, it sounds pretty good to me. This is out in the UK next week, should keep me goin to MGS2 on March 8th anyway!!
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I got it yesterday and am taking it back today :(
It is boring as hell. It does not have the depth or the overall game quality of GTA3.
It really is just running around and hitting/clubbing, or shooting people. It\'s really dumb. The people are just running around like chickens. It gets really old, they are just running, and running, and running, over and over and over. Where the hell are they going? And where are they coming from? And WHY are they there. At least in GTA3 you could pick someone off walking down the street (it was just more personal :) ). But these people are just like the person said above, like chickens. It gets REAL old REAL FAST. And the missions are lame. It\'s the same ol thing over and over. STop this person, guard this person, take this here, blow this up. I just cannot stand to play this game anymore.
It totally gives me a headache with all those mindless people running around. I actually had to take some Advil after the first hour of playing it.
And I don\'t have anything against hack and slash games, in fact I usually like them. I LOVE baulders gate and It\'s hack and slash, but it\'s not as mindless and stupid as this game.
The graphics are not all that great, it is not smooth at all. And when you are playing it you are thinking why bother.
Do yourself a HUGE favor and rent this thing before you go to buy it (unlike me). But at least I can exchange mine up to 14 days.
GTA3 just blows this game away. And even if there were no GTA3 to compair this to, it would still suck.
If you have any other questions about it feel free to ask me.
I know some people will be mad about this game sucking, but that does not change the fact that it blows. I really wanted to like this game too, I am also bummed about it.
Thats all I have to say about that.
G.
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Truthfully I was expecting more because of what I read...but the space you have to destroy in the mall is f*cking little...it\'s not big hell GTAIII\'s Portland Harbor is bigger than that. Not good for some big distruction. Yes the people on screen are just like what Ryu said chicken with their heads cut off...the violence is okay but GTA had more there except for the hatchet and sword. It\'s still fun to play though.
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Gman2:
It is boring as hell. It does not have the depth or the overall game quality of GTA3.
There goes your credibility. Why are you comparing a game that is a crime syndicate simulator toa beat \'em up? Did you not read what I said? The games are totaly different. What, do you think because it\'s made by Rockstar that it should be compared to GTA3? They do make other types of games you know. It\'s like me comparing the Bouncer to Final Fantasy simply because Squaresoft is more known for Final Fantasy..
And where are they coming from? And WHY are they there. At least in GTA3 you could pick someone off walking down the street (it was just more personal ). But these people are just like the person said above, like chickens. It gets REAL old REAL FAST. And the missions are lame. It\'s the same ol thing over and over.
Another GTA3 comparison? Not liking the people is one thing, but remember, this is a riot. Where are the people going in GTA3? People are just walking down the streets in the middile of a gang war moseying along minding their own business? Gunshots and death dont bother them? Please, this game is a totaly different mindset. These people are running and taking everything not bolted down, just imagine where they could go and maybe you\'ll feel better.
And I don\'t have anything against hack and slash games, in fact I usually like them. I LOVE baulders gate and It\'s hack and slash, but it\'s not as mindless and stupid as this game.
Baldurs Gate a hack-n-slash? I think you over estimated what SoE was going to be and underestimate what Baldur\'s Gate really is.
GTA3 just blows this game away. And even if there were no GTA3 to compair this to, it would still suck.
But your only complaints have been just that, comparisons...
I know some people will be mad about this game sucking, but that does not change the fact that it blows. I really wanted to like this game too, I am also bummed about it.
Thats all I have to say about that.
Good thing. I couldn\'t listen to another word from you.
Bladez
but the space you have to destroy in the mall is f*cking little...it\'s not big hell GTAIII\'s Portland Harbor is bigger than that.
THere goes your credibility as well, as if there was much left from off-topic. Another GTA3 comparison, what is wrong with you people? And you can advance to places other then the mall, you know that don\'t you? *Sigh* Some people just don\'t get it.
the violence is okay but GTA had more there except for the hatchet and sword. It\'s still fun to play though.
I\'ll take that block war starting rocket launcher and the flame thrower in SoE then any other gun in GTA3, but it\'s a moot point. The games are designed with different intentions.
JP:
This game looks really boring and from what I\'ve heard from others it actually is as boring as it looks..
Heh. Nothing like people critcizing games before playing them. :) At least you didn\'t compare it to GTA3 though.
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Ill give it a try.
Thx for the reviews.
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well all I said was that it looked really boring and I\'ve heard a lot of people say that it is true. Please don\'t put words in my mouth I didn\'t knock it, I just told you what I\'ve seen and heard from others.
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Well, I gave you props on not comparing it to GTA3, my question is if your sources did it instead...
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looks cool to me
bjut I bough that amazing wipeout game last week so I wont be buying games till MGS2 comes out, ill be skipping this one :(
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Originally posted by Ryu
Well, I gave you props on not comparing it to GTA3, my question is if your sources did it instead...
Nope, they didn\'t mention GTA3 at all. They just said they were very disappointed with it coz it was so repetitive.
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So, how does the game compare to GTA.3? :D
*runs for cover*
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Is it really worth picking this one up, I only have enough to get VF4 or this, and well, VF4 looks more appealing, and prolly has more depth:confused:
Edit: Is it as shallow as the IGN review says it is?
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i bought and i am like "ummm should i keep it or returned it"...but the kaos mode rocks...i also notice that people are just running around..u dont see them going inside the store and stealing stuff..u cant go inside the store at all..,,the lvls are small.....i might return it...they should of called it State of Return-n-c..ill buy it for 25 bucks..
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Originally posted by Terry Bogard
Is it really worth picking this one up, I only have enough to get VF4 or this, and well, VF4 looks more appealing, and prolly has more depth:confused:
Edit: Is it as shallow as the IGN review says it is?
I would wait till VF4 if that\'s all you can afford.. :)
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I almost returned it to, until I played the Kaos mode. That is the real meat and potatoes of this game. Although, I could see that getting boring in a few weeks or so.
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There goes your credibility. Why are you comparing a game that is a crime syndicate simulator toa beat \'em up? Did you not read what I said? The games are totaly different. What, do you think because it\'s made by Rockstar that it should be compared to GTA3? They do make other types of games you know. It\'s like me comparing the Bouncer to Final Fantasy simply because Squaresoft is more known for Final Fantasy..
Hmmm.... GTA3 Crime simulator? Isn\'t starting riots ,killing people, and blowing **** up considered a crime to? Do not fool yourself into thinking that these games are so drastically different. It is obvious that Rockstar is banking on the over the top violence and the huge success from GTA3 to sell this game in truckloads. Every review/preview for this game had the words "Made by the makers of GTA3", people are expecting that this game is on that same level of quality so it is enevitable that these games get compaired. End of story.
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Hey RYU why don\'t you STFU and let people have their own opinions on here.
There is no need to pick apart other peoples comments and feelings about the game. The title of this topic is IMPRESSIONS, POST THEM HERE. NOT post your opinions and if they don\'t agree with RYU\'s he will bash you for it.
You have stated your impressions and that’s fine. No one here is ripping your opinions up (although I could If I wanted to, because I REALLY think this game sucks BAD).
And for us NOT to compare this with GTA3, how can you NOT. It basically is trying to be GTA3 without the cars (weather it wants to be or not) How can you not see that? It is mission based like GTa3, you have bats, guns, you go through the streets smacking people down, and for $hits sake, YOU EVEN HAVE A POLICE "WANTED" METER!!!!! ARE YOU DELUSIONAL????? You can’t see the similarities?
Either way, let people have their opinions man, no one is stopping you. I know spending $50 on a game and ADMITTING it sucks is hard to do, but come on, trying to justify it this way is pretty lame.
G.
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Hmmm.... GTA3 Crime simulator? Isn\'t starting riots ,killing people, and blowing **** up considered a crime to?
Of course it is. So why does every game with cops in it considered crime simulators? There\'s hardly any story in SoE, that\'s not the point of the game, but in GTA3, the real meat and potatoes is following the missions and advancing to more parts of the city. You don\'t have to do any of that in SoE and yet despite that huge glaring difference, because there is violence in the game, it should be like GTA3. I don\'t see how or why that statement makes any sense, but so many fools on this board seem to think crime games are some type of new genre. Little lesson in ignorance for you today: they\'re not and GTA3 is in a league of its own.
It is obvious that Rockstar is banking on the over the top violence and the huge success from GTA3 to sell this game in truckloads. Every review/preview for this game had the words "Made by the makers of GTA3", people are expecting that this game is on that same level of quality so it is enevitable that these games get compaired. End of story.
Yup, Rockstar is banking on it, but simply because when you make one popular game, that\'s what you are known for. Square is known for Final Fantasy, Capcom is known for Resident Evil, Konami is known for MGS2, etc etc. However, I\'m not going to bend over backwards comparing Street Fighter to Resident Evil because that\'s the quality I expect from Capcom, or bend over backwards comparing Chrono Trigger to Final Fantasy simply because they are both made by Squaresoft. Just face it, they may be some type of "crime simulators," but how you play each game and the purpose of each one is so different that comparing one to the other would be an injustice to either title.
Hey RYU why don\'t you STFU and let people have their own opinions on here.
I do, but only when those opinions make sense. I love Metal Gear and yet lots of other people on this board do not, do I go into every thread of theirs and bash them? Not at all. As a matter of fact, when it comes to SoE, I like the game, but I don\'t love it like I do other games, but I will defend it from harsh criticism when the criteria for the critiques are based off of false statements and irregularities. You can hate the game for being too reptetive, you can hate it for being too violent, you can hate it for a number of reasons, but don\'t hate it because it\'s not GTA3. You want GTA3, go play that, don\'t hate SoE for your warped sense of comparison.
No one here is ripping your opinions up (although I could If I wanted to, because I REALLY think this game sucks BAD).
*Awaits "ripping"* :rolleyes:
It basically is trying to be GTA3 without the cars (weather it wants to be or not) How can you not see that? It is mission based like GTa3, you have bats, guns, you go through the streets smacking people down, and for $hits sake, YOU EVEN HAVE A POLICE "WANTED" METER!!!!! ARE YOU DELUSIONAL????? You can’t see the similarities?
Other games have guns, other games have cops, other games have cars, others do not and others just let you run amok and destroy stuff. There\'s a genre for this, it\'s called \'beat-em up.\' I can pick up guns, blow stuff up, and beat up on people in Fighting Force, does that mean we should compare that to GTA3 as well? Perhaps Final Fight? What about the Bouncer, or Aliens vs Predator? GIve it a rest. Aside from your "wanted meter," comment, I can\'t think of any other thing that isn\'t done in other games as well as GTA3, however, none of those games are riots like this one is. There\'s where you fail in your comparisons.
Either way, let people have their opinions man, no one is stopping you. I know spending $50 on a game and ADMITTING it sucks is hard to do, but come on, trying to justify it this way is pretty lame.
I actually didn\'t spend any money on this one, but it would be difficult for you to understand that. As for other games I have bashed in the past, I did spend money on them and I did bash them right back to the stone age. What do you care though? So far, your arguement has been that SoE sucks because it\'s not enough like GTA3, and that you had to spend money to buy it as well. When you "Waste" money on a game that turns out to be unlike a previous title, I guess I would get pretty peeved with that too. However, when I read "riots" "fighting" "rocket launchers" and "total chaos," GTA3 is not the first game that comes to mind. Why is it that way for you?
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Originally posted by Metal_Gear_Ray
looks cool to me
Thats what i thought until i saw someone play it..this is a really poor game that wouldn\'t look out of place on the PSONE, i\'d rather kill people on GTA3 it\'s much more fun!!
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Thats me put off getting it. If I could afford it i\'d try it but since I can\'t ill take your word for it.
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I bought Burnout and you know what? I never sat there crying and moaning wondering whether it would compare to GT3 as I just wanted to play the game and hopefully enjoy it...
Thats the problem with the games industry, yes every1 is entitled to opinions, but there\'s people Gman2 who always expect the best from everything...I loved GTA3 and I\'m getting SofE as it looks superb and the reputation of Rockstar speaks for itself...
but if I don\'t like it, I\'m not gonna go back wiping my tears away saying "Hello Mr Shopkeeper "sniffle,moan" I want to take this back cause it isn\'t as good as GTA3"
I\'d say I didn\'t like the game, so please stop making comparisons and play the game...
I can\'t wait to get it and I reckon I\'ll love it!
Then 8th of March...lol...some game called Metal Gear Solid 2 is coming out and I can\'t wait to get it!
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i was gonna get it for my bday, ill think ill rent it first
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I will be trying out this game from a friend on tuesday.. can\'t wait... Hopefully I have no homework:D
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Two words: Chaos Mode :cool: Buy it now!