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Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 22, 2002, 06:00:03 PM
"just wait"

"wait till E3"

"wait till 2003"


i swear every xbox zealot has this tattoo\'d on the back of thier hand

:rolleyes:
Title: Chipset news
Post by: jm on February 24, 2002, 06:24:45 AM
NYYPZ, til you\'ve ranked "above average" on this message forum, I don\'t think you have the ability to judge anyone yet nor have the right in calling other people dumbasses:rolleyes: . Shame...

:rolleyes:
Title: Chipset news
Post by: IronFist on February 22, 2002, 02:38:26 PM
PS2 got third?  What the heck?  It shouldn\'t have even been included in this because it is from 2000, not 2001.

EDIT: I don\'t think that comment was anti-Xbox enough, so here\'s another one.  The chipset could be powerful enough to control the whole world for all I care.  Without the games, it is just a powerful, technologically advanced paperweight.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: SonyFan on February 22, 2002, 06:53:11 PM
http://www.toshiba.com/taec/press/to-062.shtml

Well DUH! And the PS2 won when it\'s processor was the new thing on the market. Big deal! Technology does age, and the newer products that are more powerful are always going to get the better marks. I thought this was common sence, but then again.. look who I\'m talking to.

Dumbass.

While you\'re getting that "Wait till E3" tattoo on the back of your head, why not get one right above your butthole with a big arrow pointing down saying "Exclusive property of Bill Gates".

You are right about one thing, the PS2 didn\'t have a large library of AAA games either when it launched. Nor did the Gamecube. Only the Dreamcast followed up a spectacular launch lineup with a stead of stream of great games. Of course, you wouldn\'t know that seein as how your DC library is mostly crap rehashes and subpar titles. What a waste of good gaming equiptment.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: ddaryl on February 22, 2002, 05:24:03 PM
NPYYZ

you\'re a great laugh
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Lord Nicon on February 22, 2002, 07:19:17 PM
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Originally posted by NPYYZ


Ah yes, another "without the games" statement. Have patience you will see the games throughout 2002. Remember when the Ps2 first came out? I don\'t recall it having a large selection of good games in it\'s library at launch.


First of all we know whats expected during 2002 we are just yet to see how they play out. Second, this is past xbox launch and we are soon entering spring, (the exact same time ps2 started to come out with some AAA titles, like gt3). Plus, we are talking about the present not the past, and ps2 is here and has been here so we can only compare ps2 now to xbox now. The reason for this is because ps2 has all these games + some coming while xbox has ..... well, what it has now. Capiche?;)
Title: Chipset news
Post by: NPYYZ on February 22, 2002, 02:20:55 PM
Xbox: Best Gaming Chipset of 2001
By Cesar
02.22.2002 @ 12:08 PM

NVIDIA® Corporation announced today that its proprietary processors designed for Microsoft® Xbox™ has been named the "Best Gaming Chip Set of 2001" by Cahners In-Stat/MDR, publishers of the Microprocessor Report. The Xbox processors feature the dual-processing architecture of NVIDIA’s Xbox Graphics Processing Unit (XGPU) and Xbox Media Communications Processor (MCPX) to power the video game system’s standout graphics, audio and networking capabilities. The award, chosen by the analyst team of the Microprocessor Report, is one of the first presented in the fourth annual Analyst’s Choice Awards honoring the best in microprocessor technology unveiled in 2001.

"NVIDIA engineers built the Xbox processors in a short 14 months, from the design win to the first working systems," stated Dan Vivoli, vice president of marketing at NVIDIA. "The execution of this ambitious and aggressive program is a testament to the incredible talent and execution of NVIDIA’s engineering teams. We are extremely pleased to have received this recognition and we are excited to be on the leading edge of revolutionary design."


 

"Microsoft’s Xbox set a new standard for video game console features, quality and performance," said Peter N. Glaskowsky, a senior analyst with In-Stat/MDR. "The unified system architecture of the Xbox gave the system capabilities unmatched by the competition, such as full-time antialiased graphics, vertex and pixel shading support, real-time Dolby(TM) Digital 5.1 encode and support for high-definition output."

Microsoft’s Xbox features a powerful combination of NVIDIA’s XGPU graphics processor and the MCPX media processor. The first processor, the XGPU, a fully programmable 3D processor, contains more than 60 million transistors. This awesome amount of computing horsepower is dedicated to one goal—create stunning, never-before-seen imagery. The second processor, the MCPX, is based on two powerful digital signal processors (DSPs) with 4 billion operations per second dedicated to 3D audio and network processing. The MCPX performs the processing for broadband networking functions, high-speed peripherals, and is the most sophisticated audio processor ever built.

Each year the Microprocessor Report analysts review and evaluate more than 100 microprocessors, digital-signal processors, and application-specific digital machines. For a complete listing of the year’s nominees, click here.

The GameCube got the second place while Sony\'s PlayStation 2 the third place. If you already don\'t own an Xbox, go buy one!

http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=2648
Title: Chipset news
Post by: NPYYZ on February 22, 2002, 04:41:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by IronFist


EDIT: I don\'t think that comment was anti-Xbox enough, so here\'s another one.  The chipset could be powerful enough to control the whole world for all I care.  Without the games, it is just a powerful, technologically advanced paperweight.


Ah yes, another "without the games" statement. Have patience you will see the games throughout 2002. Remember when the Ps2 first came out? I don\'t recall it having a large selection of good games in it\'s library at launch.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: NPYYZ on February 24, 2002, 06:16:49 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SonyFan
http://www.toshiba.com/taec/press/to-062.shtml

Well DUH! And the PS2 won when it\'s processor was the new thing on the market. Big deal! Technology does age, and the newer products that are more powerful are always going to get the better marks. I thought this was common sence, but then again.. look who I\'m talking to.

Dumbass.

While you\'re getting that "Wait till E3" tattoo on the back of your head, why not get one right above your butthole with a big arrow pointing down saying "Exclusive property of Bill Gates".

You are right about one thing, the PS2 didn\'t have a large library of AAA games either when it launched. Nor did the Gamecube. Only the Dreamcast followed up a spectacular launch lineup with a stead of stream of great games. Of course, you wouldn\'t know that seein as how your DC library is mostly crap rehashes and subpar titles. What a waste of good gaming equiptment.


Sonyfan = Braindead moron.

Of course it won when it first came out you idiot. It had no real competition.

Dumbass!!!!!!!!!!

I never said wait till E3 or 2003. All I am saying is letfs talk about the games when the XBOX has been around as long as the PS2 has. It does take time to make games you know. The PS2 was out for more then 2 and a half months before its library began to grow. You people are a joke; it seems that you just can\'t stand another console getting more praise then the PS2.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on February 24, 2002, 06:36:49 AM
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The GameCube got the second place while Sony\'s PlayStation 2 the third place. If you already don\'t own an Xbox, go buy one!


why?  because it won an award against the GameCube and the PS2\'s two year old technology?

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Of course it won when it first came out you idiot. It had no real competition.


and XBox is competing against PS2 which was made almost  2 years ago.. i would think if XBox lost to PS2.. that would be a humiliation..

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Ah yes, another "without the games" statement. Have patience you will see the games throughout 2002. Remember when the Ps2 first came out? I don\'t recall it having a large selection of good games in it\'s library at launch


why should i wait for XBox to even get games when PS2 has a MUCH larger selection of superior games right now?

ive said this before.. remember that while XBox is getting more games, PS2 is getting more games at a faster rate..

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I never said wait till E3 or 2003. All I am saying is letfs talk about the games when the XBOX has been around as long as the PS2 has. It does take time to make games you know. The PS2 was out for more then 2 and a half months before its library began to grow. You people are a joke; it seems that you just can\'t stand another console getting more praise then the PS2.


your a complete idiot if you dont understand the point mm was making..

XBox fans have ALWAYS been forced to say "just wait til BLAH BLAH" or just wait til it gets games.  Your a complete idiot, why should we wait?  you could be playing a PS2 that already has games..
Title: Chipset news
Post by: PSX_J on February 24, 2002, 07:52:33 AM
NPYYZ=Computer Dweeb.

XBox isn\'t jack chit yet so keep yer mouth shut till u have something to brag bout, right now PS2 has all the great games and support.  When Xbox finally redeems it\'s self then u can talk.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 24, 2002, 08:12:26 AM
The xbox has great games right now, there is no reason to wait.  Since November, the xbox has recieved as many good games as the PS2 has.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 24, 2002, 08:51:12 AM
im gonna have to "LOL" at what you just said watch

:)
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 24, 2002, 10:40:41 AM
>"The xbox has great games right now, there is no reason to wait. Since November, the xbox has recieved as many good games as the PS2 has."

Then what are those explosions of sound i\'m hearing coming from japan.. Is it the emergency self-destruct xbox mechanism.. or is it the sound of nothing.. nothing meaning no sales :laughing:
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 24, 2002, 11:17:01 AM
Halo, Gothem, DOA3, Amped, Wreckless, JSRF, Madden, Fever, NHL 2002, Genma Onimusha, Inside Drive, Silent Hill 2, F1 2001, Max Payne, Tony Hawk\'s 2x (with 3 in a  week or so), Munch.

These are all quality titles, and I\'m sure I forgot a few.  If a game is released for both systems it is better.  After 3 months this is a good selection of games, enough to keep anyone happy.  You may not like all these games, I don\'t, but that doesn\'t mean they aren\'t good solid titles.

And Chrono, how the hell do you know how well xbox is selling?  We won\'t know for sure for about a week and besides, it\'s success or failure in Japan says nothing about the quality of the system or its games.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 24, 2002, 11:21:15 AM
Watchdog, did you see my post..?
http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=19030

(edited to be nicer :) )
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 24, 2002, 11:22:57 AM
>"it\'s success or failure in Japan says nothing about the quality of the system or its games."

Oh really, you mean sega is just gonna keep releasing games on the xbox, even though JSRF failed to sell 10k?
Same goes for the other companies.. the 10k sales of JSRF were good actually, if you were a company with another one of the launch titles it did worse. (besides DOA3 or Onimush Port)
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 24, 2002, 06:37:46 PM
JSR didn\'t sell well on DC either--it doesn\'t appeal to the masses so it won\'t post big numbers.  

______
Oh really, you mean sega is just gonna keep releasing games on the xbox, even though JSRF failed to sell 10k?
Same goes for the other companies.. the 10k sales of JSRF were good actually, if you were a company with another one of the launch titles it did worse. (besides DOA3 or Onimush Port)
______

I said "it\'s success or failure in Japan says nothing about the quality of the system or its games."

And it is still true.  The DC failed, but that doesn\'t mean it was a bad system.

I don\'t know what to believe about sales--last week there were reports of preorder sells outs etc, and now this one site reports different numbers.  These aren\'t official and really don\'t mean much.  This is not to say those numbers aren\'t accurate, they could be, but the fact is that we don\'t know.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: ddaryl on February 24, 2002, 07:21:35 PM
Chrono is our resident Xbox hater

he will do cartwheels for you everytime negative Xbox news can be found

and Watchdog

Xbox has not had as many great games as the PS2 has since it release

sorry kiddo

NPYYZ

Well there is no explanation accept that NPYYZ is obviouls Next Genner revisited :laughing:
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 24, 2002, 07:35:07 PM
>"he will do cartwheels for you everytime negative Xbox news can be found "

You bet :)
well.. maybe not cartwheels :laughing:

Besides, someone has to keep pstwo on earth and in reality.

For people who don\'t know me, I like the PS2 and NGC
I just hate M$, they have screwed me over too many times, and I don\'t like the way they are handeling the xbox.

So :nerd: can go buy xboxes in japan.. cause he needs to increase the sales :laughing:
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Lord Nicon on February 24, 2002, 08:06:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ddaryl
Chrono is our resident Xbox hater


NPYYZ

Well there is no explanation accept that NPYYZ is obviouls Next Genner revisited :laughing:


lol.

> Halo, Gothem, DOA3, Amped, Wreckless, JSRF, Madden, Fever, NHL 2002, Genma Onimusha, Inside Drive, Silent Hill 2, F1 2001, Max Payne, Tony Hawk\'s 2x (with 3 in a week or so), Munch. These are all quality titles, and I\'m sure I forgot a few. If a game is released for both systems it is better. After 3 months this is a good selection of games, enough to keep anyone happy. You may not like all these games, I don\'t, but that doesn\'t mean they aren\'t good solid titles.

Ok then what makes them good titles? Yanya Cabalista could be the greatest game in one persons eyes so does that make it a good solid title? Im just curious. Plus games like thps3, sh2, madden, nhl2002, onimusha, and f1 2001 are all games that a lot of ppl might have played way before on something else and the little extras wont make them want the system. Plus a few of those games are not that great to a lot of ppl, well that i know.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 24, 2002, 08:26:54 PM
It makes them good titles because they appeal to many people and/or generally got good reviews from press.

It\'s irrelevant if they were released on a different platform--a good title is a good title.

We can argue whether or not xbox has had as many good titles, that really doesn\'t matter (it would be close if not equal); my point was that there are plently of good titles, enough to keep anyone happy--how many games do you need/buy in a 3 month period?

Besides, how many quality titles has GC had since launch?

Well, now that I know, Chrono, you can debate with yourself.  Hate MS all you want.  Have fun.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 24, 2002, 09:01:28 PM
>"We can argue whether or not xbox has had as many good titles, that really doesn\'t matter (it would be close if not equal);"

Like contradicting yourself..?

It does not matter.. yet you say what you think..
you gotta decide a stance to take bud!

The ps2 has had more quality titles.. get over it
the gamecube.. well.. its had a really slow start, hopefully things change
Title: Re: Chipset news
Post by: ooseven on February 25, 2002, 12:36:39 AM
Quote
Originally posted by NPYYZ

http://www.teamxbox.com/news.php?id=2648


oh yeah like i am going to WASTE £300 on buying a X box just because theam XBOX says so.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Chipset news
Post by: ooseven on February 25, 2002, 12:38:42 AM
Quote
Originally posted by ddaryl
Chrono is our resident Xbox hater

he will do cartwheels for you everytime negative Xbox news can be found

and Watchdog

Xbox has not had as many great games as the PS2 has since it release

sorry kiddo

NPYYZ

Well there is no explanation accept that NPYYZ is obviouls Next Genner revisited :laughing:


Sorry D man but you forgot me in that list


ooseven resident Hater at the A holes who are doing M$$$$ European Strategy

Pffffffftttt

make US pay 50% than the Yanks ?

i DON\'T THINK SO !

:mad: :evil: :mad: :evil:
Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 25, 2002, 03:25:28 AM
ehhe, he said "yanks"

no, no no!


the euro\'s have to pay $2935623986 after conversion rate plus 51% of yer soul
Title: Chipset news
Post by: ooseven on February 25, 2002, 05:19:27 AM
Sorry My bad mate I am still trying not to refer to you lot as the bloody colonials

//Miss Moneypenny "hey ooseven the American War of Independence phoned they want their phrase back !"
Title: Chipset news
Post by: BizioEE on February 25, 2002, 06:26:03 AM
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why should i wait for XBox to even get games when PS2 has a MUCH larger selection of superior games right now?


If you can afford only one console and you have to choose now...your question is legitimate...

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ive said this before.. remember that while XBox is getting more games, PS2 is getting more games at a faster rate..


Things could change in the future...even if now it seems impossible...
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 25, 2002, 09:45:26 AM
>"Things could change in the future...even if now it seems impossible..."

Micrsoft could go outta buisness  in the future .. even if now it seems impossible

See how easy it was to make your statement :laughing:
Title: Chipset news
Post by: BizioEE on February 25, 2002, 09:54:31 AM
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Originally posted by Chrono
>"Things could change in the future...even if now it seems impossible..."

Micrsoft could go outta buisness  in the future .. even if now it seems impossible

See how easy it was to make your statement :laughing:


I mean...the "war" is not over...

...and you could become intelligent,even if now it seems impossible
:laughing:

You\'re right...it\'s so easy:D
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 25, 2002, 10:13:11 AM
>"You\'re right...it\'s so easy"

Glad you agree :D
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 25, 2002, 10:50:24 AM
I still think xbox has had as many good titles, my point was that it does no good in arguing about it because in 3 months how many titles do you need/buy?

You Chrono are so biased, so quick to discredit anyone saying anythign positive about xbox that in the absense of logic, fact or a decent argument you revert to semantics--(eg.  "look how clever I am, I found a small contradiction in your post!  Therefore I must be right!").  Well done Chrono.

How many truly good titles has PS2 had since Nov?  Maybe a 15-20?.  I named how many for xbox?  How many games have you bought since then?

That\'s my point, and no matter how hard you may try to find a spelling error or contradiction in my post, that\'s all I\'ve said.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: seven on February 25, 2002, 10:55:55 AM
Just to comment on the original post of this thread:

I would like to raise the question; why did it get this price? How do they judge the chip-set? And as IronFist pointed out: why is PS2 still in it (it came out in 2000)?

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"The unified system architecture of the Xbox gave the system capabilities unmatched by the competition, such as full-time antialiased graphics, vertex and pixel shading support, real-time Dolby(TM) Digital 5.1 encode and support for high-definition output."


I just love that quote. Especially the fulltime antialiased graphics... definately unmatched. :rolleyes: reading quotes like this one just makes me wonder how credible this award is. Sounds more like what MS said a few months before Xbox launched.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 25, 2002, 10:59:51 AM
Xbox Exclusive "good" games:
Halo, Gothem, DOA3,  Amped (82.6%),  Fever (81.7%)

Xbox games that are also on the ps2 that are good:
Madden, NHL 2002, Genma Onimusha, Silent Hill 2, F1 2001, Max Payne, THPS3

Games you thought were quality, but are currently averaging under 80% (Using the rounddown function)
Wreckless
JSRF
Inside Drive
Tony Hawk\'s 2x


Wow, what a quality list if you take out the BS
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 25, 2002, 11:07:28 AM
Here is a list of ps2 exclusive quality titles: Round Down Function Also Used

90% and over:

Grand Theft Auto 3
Metal Gear Solid 2
Virtua Fighter 4
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec
Final Fantasy X
ICO
Devil May Cry
Twisted Metal: Black
Hot Shots Golf 3

80% and Over:

Jak & Daxter
NBA Street
Red Faction
Ace Combat 4
Maximo
High Heat 2003
Baldur\'s Gate: Dark Alliance
Klonoa 2: Lunatea\'s Veil
ATV Offroad Fury
Splashdown
Tekken Tag Tournament
Time Splitters
Drakan: The Ancients\' Gate
Gitaroo-Man
Dynasty Warriors 3

That Enough? (I can actually get a few more...)


Now Compare it to the Xbox Exclusive Titles

90% and over

Halo

80% and over

Dead or Alive 3
Project Gotham Racing
Amped
NHL Hitz 2002
NFL Fever 2002

There ya go..
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 25, 2002, 11:22:14 AM
Firstly, it is irrelevent if they are on other systems.  A good game is a good game.  Secondly, those games are better on xbox--better graphics, added content, better framerates, etc.  Better.

JSRF is getting great reviews from everywhere.   Tony Hawk is a great game. The only reason it only got above average reviews is because TH3 is out and it is a compilation.  For people without the first 2, it is a great title.  Wreckless has had as many really good reviews as average; as for ID, it either got excellent reviews or average.

I\'m sure if I was as driven to promote the xbox as you are to discredit it, I could compile a larger list.  Unfortunately, I can\'t be bothered.  

Right now I\'m playing my PS2 more (Maximo), but overall, since Nov. I\'ve played xbox much more and purchased more games for it.  Unlike you, I have a basis for my argument.  Unlike you I have real first hand knowledge.  I can back my opinions with first hand experience.  I can argue with Ryu or mm and take their opinions and have a debate, but a little fanboy like you who irrationally hates xbox because it is made by MS cannot debate, only reach within his closed mind and pull out review scores and hope they are accurate while clinging to his PS2 because that is all he knows.

You can say what you want about [insert xbox game title here], but you\'ve never played it and so your opinion is irrelevent.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 25, 2002, 11:23:56 AM
I said since November, since xbox\'s release.  I could care less what was released a year and a half ago.

Someone doesn\'t buy a PS2 today and buy TTT, they buy MGS or GTA3.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 25, 2002, 11:30:07 AM
>"Firstly, it is irrelevent if they are on other systems."

Yes it is.. your kidding yourself if its not

>" A good game is a good game. Secondly, those games are better on xbox--better graphics, added content, better framerates, etc. Better."

Sometimes they are, but you also get to wait 6 months, while most of the ps2 users have already beat the game :laughing:

>"JSRF is getting great reviews from everywhere."
Where? and what what planet?

Electronic Gaming Monthly  7.67 out of 10
Game Informer  7 out of 10

>"Tony Hawk is a great game."
Yes it is, but we have been playing it online for many months, while you got to play outdated THPS2... see the patern yet?

>"The only reason it only got above average reviews is because TH3 is out and it is a compilation. For people without the first 2, it is a great title."
What THPS fan did not yet have 2?
and that reason for getting low scores is not a good reason ROFL

>"Wreckless has had as many really good reviews as average; as for ID, it either got excellent reviews or average. "

Really? LOL, again, what planet are you on?

Gaming Target   2/15/2002 7.6 out of 10 76.0%
Electronic Gaming Monthly   2/20/2002 7.5 out of 10 75.0%
Gamer Web   2/21/2002 7.5 out of 10 75.0%
Electric Playground   2/12/2002 7.5 out of 10 75.0%
Game Revolution   2/20/2002 15 out of 20 75.0%
Game Rankings   2/20/2002 74 out of 100 74.0%
Wired Lounge   2/15/2002 3.5 out of 5 70.0%
GamePen  2/4/2002 3.5 out of 5 70.0%
Avault  2/9/2002 3.5 out of 5 70.0%
Game Spot  2/7/2002 6.8 out of 10 68.0%
Gaming Age  2/4/2002 13 out of 20 65.0%
Operation Sports   2/10/2002 62 out of 100 62.0%
Planet 42   2/24/2002 2.5 out of 5 50.0%

>"I\'m sure if I was as driven to promote the xbox as you are to discredit it, I could compile a larger list. Unfortunately, I can\'t be bothered. "

Then do it, cause I included every xbox game that score above 80 and 90% respectivly..

>"Unlike you, I have a basis for my argument. Unlike you I have real first hand knowledge. I can back my opinions with first hand experience."
Now this is hillarious..
I have facts, do you have facts?
I have compliations of tens of reviews from across the internet.. you have an opinion.. feel special?
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 25, 2002, 11:41:38 AM
Okay, then I can list about 200 games for the SNES or PSX that recieved 80s or over, what would that proove?  My point is that the xbox is producing as many good games as the PS2 is.

I ahve played these games, you haven\'t.  That\'s pretty good wouldn\'t you say?  Or how about this.  read some of your reviews about Wreckless and how many of the mention GTA3?  Quite a few of them.  They don\'t like Wreckless because of what it isn\'t, not for what it is.  It is a good arcade racing game.  And like I said, you are being selective with you review list (half of those site I\'ve never heard of)--I have seen several 80 and 90+ scores for Wreckless(I\'m pretty sure IGN agve it a great score, but I can\'t remember what it was right now).  Leave them out for any particualr reason?  Oh yeah you are a close minded fanboy.  I forgot for a moment.  Feel special?
Title: Chipset news
Post by: BizioEE on February 25, 2002, 11:56:53 AM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Okay, then I can list about 200 games for the SNES or PSX that recieved 80s or over, what would that proove?  My point is that the xbox is producing as many good games as the PS2 is.

I ahve played these games, you haven\'t.  That\'s pretty good wouldn\'t you say?  Or how about this.  read some of your reviews about Wreckless and how many of the mention GTA3?  Quite a few of them.  They don\'t like Wreckless because of what it isn\'t, not for what it is.  It is a good arcade racing game.  And like I said, you are being selective with you review list (half of those site I\'ve never heard of)--I have seen several 80 and 90+ scores for Wreckless(I\'m pretty sure IGN agve it a great score, but I can\'t remember what it was right now).  Leave them out for any particualr reason?  Oh yeah you are a close minded fanboy.  I forgot for a moment.  Feel special?


Watchdog :)...I\'m getting an US XBox in a few days...can\'t wait...
...I was thinking of Halo and Rallisport...or PG...not so sure...

You\'re right,XBox is getting a lot of good games...I think we shouldn\'t waste our time to reply to blind and scared fanboys:)
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 25, 2002, 12:03:20 PM
BizioEE, yeah, but I bored at work...

Anyway, Halo is wonderful, the best game I\'ve played in a long time.  PGR is also really good, I haven\'t played Ralisport, but the graphics are nice and MS is really behind it so I\'m optimistic.  I\'ve got my hands full with PGR though so I probably won\'t pick it up--I think I\'m going to buy Maximo this week--it\'s Ghosts and Goblins all over again and I love it (not as good or as hard as the original but it\'s still good).

PS2 and xbox is a great combo, I\'m sure you\'ll be happy with it.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: BizioEE on February 25, 2002, 12:14:19 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
BizioEE, yeah, but I bored at work...

Anyway, Halo is wonderful, the best game I\'ve played in a long time.  PGR is also really good, I haven\'t played Ralisport, but the graphics are nice and MS is really behind it so I\'m optimistic.  I\'ve got my hands full with PGR though so I probably won\'t pick it up--I think I\'m going to buy Maximo this week--it\'s Ghosts and Goblins all over again and I love it (not as good or as hard as the original but it\'s still good).

PS2 and xbox is a great combo, I\'m sure you\'ll be happy with it.


Yeah! ;)

I know...Ghosts\'n\'Goblins was one of my favourite arcade...I\'d have loved a polygonal 2D Ghosts\'n\'Goblins on PS2...but:( ...they did it in 3D...still thinking of getting Maximo though...
Title: Chipset news
Post by: NPYYZ on February 25, 2002, 04:00:09 PM
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Originally posted by jm
NYYPZ, til you\'ve ranked "above average" on this message forum, I don\'t think you have the ability to judge anyone yet nor have the right in calling other people dumbasses:rolleyes: . Shame...

:rolleyes:


jm , I will respond in any manner I see fit. If I am attacked I will attack back. I don\'t live my life by some meaningless ranking on a message board .  Many of you have responded to my posts, and you are not even reading what I have said in my posts. You get so offended by the fact that there is another console out now that is as good, or in my opinion better then the PS2,  all you can do is respond with name calling, and you really don\'t even seem to read or understand what I am saying. And you seem to forget the Fact that I own a PS2. Is it that wrong to like the XBOX more?

Example: bobs_hardware responds, QUOTE:   " your a complete idiot if you dont understand the point mm was making.."

Now what the IDIOT bobs_hardware doesn\'t seem to realize is I was responding to sonyfan, not mm, which anyone with the slightest bit of brainpower should be able to figure out since I had his quote at the beginning of my post.
.......................................................................................................
Example 2: From the mind that is so stupid it is scary, PSX_J
Comes:     QUOTE: "XBox isn\'t jack chit yet so keep yer mouth shut till u have something to brag bout, right now PS2 has all the great games and support. When Xbox finally redeems it\'s self then u can talk."

See how the braindead have to go on the defensive? Attacking me because they know the XBOX is a very good console. Hey PSX_J I have no need to brag about the XBOX. I know how good it is. How old are you anyway 10 or so? Also what do you mean when the XBOX redeems it\'s self? Put the crack pipe down dude!!!!
Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 25, 2002, 04:02:06 PM
:rolleyes:
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Chrono on February 25, 2002, 04:07:44 PM
I agree with MM :D
Title: Chipset news
Post by: NPYYZ on February 25, 2002, 04:10:26 PM
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Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 25, 2002, 04:13:10 PM
:D  and :p

ehhe, you walked into that one
Title: Chipset news
Post by: NPYYZ on February 25, 2002, 04:16:35 PM
You are such a little pussie mm, Funny how you can dish out the sh*t but you can\'t take it. Go ahead fu*k with my posts. The best part of you ran down your old mans leg...... loser.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 25, 2002, 04:18:36 PM
this coming from an insecure little kid with a "troll alert" pic under his name

dont be mad cause you cant fit in with the rest of us "gamers"
mommie will buy you another console one day kid, i promise you

tsk tsk
Title: Chipset news
Post by: pstwo on February 25, 2002, 04:20:17 PM
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Secondly, those games are better on xbox--better graphics, added content, better framerates, etc.  Better.



This is the main point I bought a Xbox not the HD, online or even the DVD.  I haven\'t got the DVD remote yet.  Games just will look better and better as Xbox games gets realest.   :D
Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 25, 2002, 04:23:59 PM
you mean re-hashes?

onimusha?  silent hill2?

compare a port like EA nhl 2002 or SSx tricky
any major difference? well besides the lack of a better controller
Title: Chipset news
Post by: PSX_J on February 25, 2002, 04:44:38 PM
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See how the braindead have to go on the defensive? Attacking me because they know the XBOX is a very good console. Hey PSX_J I have no need to brag about the XBOX. I know how good it is. How old are you anyway 10 or so? Also what do you mean when the XBOX redeems it\'s self? Put the crack pipe down dude!!!!


Nope, wasn\'t attacking u.  It was ur choice to come into these forums and act like a retarded fanboy neyways. Im 16, if neyone needs thier balls to drop it\'s defintaley u.  Ur obviously a biased fanboy which most grown up ppl dont act like and actually see the quality of each system. I wasn\'t dissing Xbox either, just saying it hasnt showed us jack to go by.  It\'s great that u like the Xbox and all but u dont have to go into another forum talking trash and saying how great the Xbox is if u cant prove it.  All I\'ve heard out of ur mouth so far is, duh...Xbox is much better and that\'s bout it.  Put up a decent argument and you\'ll find much more respect for urself in these boards.  There have been many of ppl that have passed through these boards just as biased as u but earned the respect of other board members simply because they can actually put up an argument that isn\'t worth the sh*t that comes out ur as*.  Your the one that came off aggressive from the very start, dont expect us to take it lightly and not be just as rude back if ur gonna act like a dumbas*.  If u want to be resonable then I\'ll be resonable to, thanks for ur time troll.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: NPYYZ on February 25, 2002, 04:46:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by mm
this coming from an insecure little kid with a "troll alert" pic under his name

dont be mad cause you cant fit in with the rest of us "gamers"
mommie will buy you another console one day kid, i promise you

tsk tsk


Kid?  I bet i was playing games when you were in diapers.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 25, 2002, 04:48:50 PM
that would make you pretty darn old, kid

dont you have something better to do then post here?  go to bed troll, its a school night
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on February 25, 2002, 05:42:03 PM
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Originally posted by NPYYZ
Now what the IDIOT bobs_hardware doesn\'t seem to realize is I was responding to sonyfan, not mm, which anyone with the slightest bit of brainpower should be able to figure out since I had his quote at the beginning of my post.


eh, mm and sony fan both said the same thing, practically, so it didnt matter, you were still an idiot  :)  plus i didnt read through all of SonyFan\'s post..

any idiot with a bit of brainpower couls have worked out that whether or not you were replying to MM or not, my point still stood :);)

if you gonna come in here you should at least have a meaningful discussion.. you make ignorant and idiotic points then when someone replies, you reply back with something just as stupid as your first point.. and then when someone catches you up on it, you refuse to post about it..

..someone scared me thinks (you)
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 25, 2002, 07:21:20 PM
Well, the PS2 NHL drops in framerate occasionally (just like Madden).  Tricky is pretty much the same though (although I haven\'t play either very much).
Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 26, 2002, 03:25:18 AM
so two years in technology advancement nets us a few less drops in FPS, and worse control?
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 26, 2002, 05:05:57 AM
EA is known for bad ports, I wouldn\'t use them as a benchmark of xbox\'s power.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: SonyFan on February 26, 2002, 05:14:06 AM
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You get so offended by the fact that there is another console out now that is as good, or in my opinion better then the PS2, all you can do is respond with name calling, and you really don\'t even seem to read or understand what I am saying. And you seem to forget the Fact that I own a PS2.
 - NYPPZ

ROLF... You yell about US not understanding what you\'re talking about, but then look at this sh*t you post. I still can\'t believe that despite being told several times that, POINT BLANK, it\'s not your affection for the Xbox that generates hostility against you here... it\'s your attitude and ignorance.... you STILL cannot seem to grasp that very simple concept. You try to use our enjoyment of the PS2 as a scapegoat to draw focus away from your trollish behavior. If anything, I\'d say that YOU\'RE the one who seems to have a problem with people liking a less powerful system instead of your personal favorite. Otherwise, why would you insist on staying here in the first place? Oh.. that\'s right.. because you\'ve admitted to only being here to "Piss off PS2 owners". :rolleyes: Yeah.. THAT\'s an unbiased and trustworthy standpoint....

Oh, and that last comment about you owning a PS2 doesn\'t about to a pile of sh it as far as I\'m concerned. MM, after all, owns an Xbox also.. and hates it.



ddaryl... Next Genner reincarnate hell... I bet this fool IS Next Genner. Any chance of opening back up the Fool\'s Archive anytime soon?
Title: Chipset news
Post by: NPYYZ on February 26, 2002, 01:33:21 PM
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware


eh, mm and sony fan both said the same thing, practically, so it didnt matter, you were still an idiot  :)  plus i didnt read through all of SonyFan\'s post..

any idiot with a bit of brainpower couls have worked out that whether or not you were replying to MM or not, my point still stood :);)

if you gonna come in here you should at least have a meaningful discussion.. you make ignorant and idiotic points then when someone replies, you reply back with something just as stupid as your first point.. and then when someone catches you up on it, you refuse to post about it..

..someone scared me thinks (you)


  Moron alert::::::Type in English next time.  
Did you notice that the very first post in this thread was information about chipsets? It\'s you guys who get all flipped out because the XBOX\'s chipset was chosen #1.
It is you guys who make the ignorant idiotic points with your responses like,

 Ironfist said  "I don\'t think that comment was anti-Xbox enough, so here\'s another one. The chipset could be powerful enough to control the whole world for all I care. Without the games, it is just a powerful, technologically advanced paperweight."

sonyfan said "Well DUH! And the PS2 won when it\'s processor was the new thing on the market. Big deal! Technology does age, and the newer products that are more powerful are always going to get the better marks."

psx_j said "XBox isn\'t jack chit yet so keep yer mouth shut till u have something to brag bout, right now PS2 has all the great games and support. When Xbox finally redeems it\'s self then u can talk."

Yeah these were responses to my original post which was not a slam on the PS2, it was just info about chipsets, and what great insitefull responses they were.
I rest my case.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: ooseven on February 26, 2002, 02:05:20 PM
hey NPYYZ, you realy SHOULD burn your source book.

"how to offend and Alienate people by NPYYZ"

see on those SAD and Lonely Nights, after you Hug your X box to pretend that its a FAT UGLY woman (eerr sorry in YOUR case ..A FAT UGLY man )

just think

YOU got This

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For Posts like this.
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Quote
Originally posted by NPYYZ


  Moron alert::::::Type in English next time.  
Did you notice that the very first post in this thread was information about chipsets? It\'s you guys who get all flipped out because the XBOX\'s chipset was chosen #1.
It is you guys who make the ignorant idiotic points with your responses like,

 Ironfist said  "I don\'t think that comment was anti-Xbox enough, so here\'s another one. The chipset could be powerful enough to control the whole world for all I care. Without the games, it is just a powerful, technologically advanced paperweight."

sonyfan said "Well DUH! And the PS2 won when it\'s processor was the new thing on the market. Big deal! Technology does age, and the newer products that are more powerful are always going to get the better marks."

psx_j said "XBox isn\'t jack chit yet so keep yer mouth shut till u have something to brag bout, right now PS2 has all the great games and support. When Xbox finally redeems it\'s self then u can talk."

Yeah these were responses to my original post which was not a slam on the PS2, it was just info about chipsets, and what great insitefull responses they were.
I rest my case.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: SonyFan on February 26, 2002, 02:27:46 PM
Ya know NYPPZ if this thread you posted were the very first thread & post you made here.. then you\'d have a point. As it stands, you\'ve set a precidence of trollish behavior that will almost always backlash on you no matter the subject matter or opinions stated within. We aren\'t singling you out because you\'re a fan of the Xbox who\'s just spreading good news, we\'re singling you out because you sold your ass to M$ as their own personal whore. Nothing wrong with being a fan of a system, but when you relegate yourself to the status of nothing more than a walking Billboard.. then don\'t be surprised when people don\'t respect you. Being arrogant, ignorant, flammitory, and trollish on top of that dosen\'t help matters much either.

Again, I would have thought basic common sence would have told you this already. *Shrugs shoulders*
Title: Chipset news
Post by: NPYYZ on February 26, 2002, 06:55:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ooseven
hey NPYYZ, you realy SHOULD burn your source book.

"how to offend and Alienate people by NPYYZ"

 


Once again I get slammed for being the name-calling, trouble starting one. When the truth is I came here and posted way back at the beginning that I feel the Xbox is better then the PS2 ,and I never called anyone a name, or never said anything bad about the PS2, all I said was the Xbox was better. If you look back I believe I said that Project Gotham blew Grand Turismo 3 away. Sure that\'s an exaggeration, but I was instantly attacked after that. So I had no choice but to go on the defensive. Doesn\'t really mattere to me, I do get quite a laugh out of this board.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F216.40.201.155%2Fs%2Fotn%2Flaughing%2Fyelrotflmao.gif&hash=eff469108c74c17278367d78414f44770da29bfe)
Title: Chipset news
Post by: mm on February 26, 2002, 07:29:00 PM
and we get quite a laugh out of you

you laughing at group does not equal the group laughing at you

you came here as a troll and if going to take QUITE some effort to lose that image and the pic under yer name
Title: Chipset news
Post by: ooseven on February 27, 2002, 01:16:17 AM
Quote
Originally posted by NPYYZ


. If you look back I believe I said that Project Gotham blew Grand Turismo 3 away.


:rolleyes:

and i mentioned GT3 WHEN ? ?

p.s.

are you shure you don\'t have a over used account with team X box :rolleyes:

you writing style and insance Troll Logic sujests otherwise.
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on February 27, 2002, 02:31:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by NPYYZ


  Moron alert::::::Type in English next time.  
Did you notice that the very first post in this thread was information about chipsets? It\'s you guys who get all flipped out because the XBOX\'s chipset was chosen #1.
It is you guys who make the ignorant idiotic points with your responses like,  


huh?

Quote
The GameCube got the second place while Sony\'s PlayStation 2 the third place. If you already don\'t own an Xbox, go buy one!


I would say its more in response to the fact that (it was implied) you believe that the choosing of the XBox chipset over the GameCube\'s and 2 year old PS2 chipset is a reason to go buy an XBox.

You were the one who started brought the multiple consoles into this by telling us PS2 owners (some of which own XBox\'s already (not me though :D)) to go buy an XBox.. by telling us this you should expect us to bring up the PS2 or other consoles..

pehraps a reply like this would have been more appropriate so we could see your true colors..

Quote
The GameCube got the second place while Sony\'s PlayStation 2 the third place. If you already don\'t own an Xbox, go buy one!


why?

~~~

hope you understand, your the only one at fault here, you have set a precident in the past (as SonyFan said) of trollish behaviour, you are known for your stance on XBox vs. PS2 despite the fact that you have always failed to back it up (besides of course "i know its going to win".. that isnt enough in a console \'debate\' show us facts and reasons as to why your opinion should be more valid than us ignorant ones)
Title: Chipset news
Post by: Watchdog on February 27, 2002, 06:07:29 AM
NPYYZ, I defend the xbox up and down and don\'t get the crap you get.  Look at some of your posts and your retaliations and you\'ll see why you get treated like you do.

People here (generally) are tolerant of other consoles, but if you are a mindless fanboy (although people seem to be able to get away with being a mindless PS2 fanboy) you will not get any respect.

Open your mind and you\'ll actually get taken seriously.