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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Ginko on February 26, 2002, 03:56:24 PM
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Anyone get the new official Xbox magazine? Did you read the Seamus Blackley interview...from Japan.
My favorite part
"We started working on the Xbox version, and the first thing that I thought when I saw it running was how it seemed like games on the other systems were viewed through the wrong prescription glasses."-Namco
Another highlight is where he says he visited a " very respected developement team, a team that has been instrumental to the success of another platform, and ultimately a team that has decided to move to Xbox. This is a project that they have been dreaming of for a few years now, but finally felt they could pull off with the power and innovation that they see on Xbox...Next time I\'ll have more details, but rest assured that you are going to freak when you see pictures and screenshots - a lot of people should plan on losing sleep and camping out at their local game shops waiting for this baby."
This and other news on Japanese developement was all good, just thought I\'d share the highlights.
Let the speculation begin...
This is uplifting news after the somewhat cold reception the Japanese gave Xbox...
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>"This is uplifting news after the somewhat cold reception the Japanese gave Xbox..."
You don\'t think thats the whole idea of this PR bullcrap
Ms has lied so many times before its scarry.. and i\'m not talking about OS, i\'m talking about they lied about the xbox
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Originally posted by Ginko
Next time I\'ll have more details, but rest assured that you are going to freak when you see pictures and screenshots - a lot of people should plan on losing sleep and camping out at their local game shops waiting for this baby."
They said the same thing about Amped, right? :cool:
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The Xbox hardware has so much room that the games will look very amazing!
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>" This is a project that they have been dreaming of for a few years now, but finally felt they could pull off with the power and innovation that they see on Xbox..."
Well, that means its not square or enix
Cause square is already doing FFXI on ps2, and Enix does not care about graphics
Plus,
Enix has already basically said DQ8 will not appear on the xbox, but they may develop for it
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>"The Xbox hardware has so much room that the games will look very amazing!"
Lol, yeah
its got so much "room"
:laughing:
thats why it won\'t fit in most of the japaneese houses
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I knew this would start something:D
You don\'t think thats the whole idea of this PR bullcrap
Ms has lied so many times before its scarry.. and i\'m not talking about OS, i\'m talking about they lied about the xbox
Like what? What are they lying about here...we don\'t even know what they are talking about.
They said the same thing about Amped, right?
Don\'t remember...why would people lose sleep over a snowboarding game?
Well, that means its not square or enix
Cause square is already doing FFXI on ps2,
What about Chrono? That one hasn\'t been officially announced...what about a new franchise. It\'s not out of the question.
and Enix does not care about graphics
Obviously if they are keeping Dragon Quest on PS2...j/k no flames please.
Plus,
Enix has already basically said DQ8 will not appear on the xbox, but they may develop for it
Read above, could be new franchise.
thats why it won\'t fit in most of the japaneese houses
:laughing:
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>"Of course, the most crucial part of any successful launch is the software that will be immediately available for the system. There will be 12 games available at launch, ranging from fighting games like Tecmo\'s Dead or Alive 3 to Microsoft\'s own mouse-adventure game, Nezmix. "The 12 titles we have lined up are great launch titles--I think they\'re the biggest and best launch titles ever," Ohura said. But Microsoft realizes that there are certain games that are inherently more appealing to the Japanese market than others. "I think there is great demand for Dead or Alive 3, Wreckless, Jet Set Radio Future, and Genma Onimusha," Ohura added. "Microsoft will also have Project Gotham [and] Nezmix, which we think will do well.""
and.. we umm
know how that turned out :rolleyes:
More PR:
"Even with the seemingly solid support from third-party Japanese developers at launch, there is still a question of whether or not a console that has strong roots in North America will be able to flourish in the Japanese market. Microsoft hopes that the brand it has established through its MSN service and software will help the Xbox break past such a barrier. "I don\'t think there is a barrier," Ohura said. "Microsoft has been in Japan since 1986, and we\'ve been well received in the PC world and the consumer world through MSN, so we have a name that\'s known for being technological and innovative [in Japan]." :laughing:
want more?
see http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2848284,00.html
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Enix does not sound too keen on supporting the Xbox.
Square is now sucki... oh.. you know what I was going to say.. :rolleyes:
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Who is Ohura?
Chrono is really getting into this...you could bring up old news all you want. Sony is just as guilty...
This is just a ray of light, and besides that, there are no solid facts in it.
What is there to argue? I just posted highlights of an interview, take it as you will. I\'m excited...:P
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ok, thats fine Ginko
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glad to have your approval:rolleyes:
;)
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Chrono is so pathetic; he insists on jumping on anything that is positive about xbox. You don\'t see people jumping all over PS2 news. Where is your pessimism then? You also completely ignore the Sony hype machine and their emotion engine and all that garbage we were force fed.
My point: all companies do PR and all companies put their product in the brightest of lights.
Give it a rest Chrono, because as it is now, you are the Sony equivalent of NPYYZ.
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hey, I think your jumping on me a little fast, especially this time
I got my point in, however I backed down
I find Ginko\'s tone to be.. different
Especially in comparison to ps2two or BizioEE
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Originally posted by Ginko
I knew this would start something:D
:laughing:
I can relate Dude. Every time anything positive gets posted about the XBOX, certain people have to take it as some kind of slam against their system of choice. Sure when I first came here I was a wise ass just trying to get people going. But since then I have posted a few positive things about the XBOX and all I get is name-calling and attacks.
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LoL - That cause you\'re an ass dude. *points and laughs*
Ginko, thanks for the heads up. I\'ll remain skeptical about what exactly he was insinuating at until after some solid facts come out.
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Sorry NPYYZ, I\'ll give you another chance.
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thats cause you acted like a child troll from yer 1st post
do i need to drag it up?
its going to take one hell of an effort, but you *might* come back to rational thought someday
if you want to gain respect, you have to give it 1st
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Chrono is so pathetic; he insists on jumping on anything that is positive about xbox. You don\'t see people jumping all over PS2 news. Where is your pessimism then? You also completely ignore the Sony hype machine and their emotion engine and all that garbage we were force fed.
My point: all companies do PR and all companies put their product in the brightest of lights.
Give it a rest Chrono, because as it is now, you are the Sony equivalent of NPYYZ.
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Originally posted by Chrono
hey, I think your jumping on me a little fast, especially this time
I got my point in, however I backed down
Backed down? What did you have to argue in the first place...
I find Ginko\'s tone to be.. different
Especially in comparison to ps2two or BizioEE
:p
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Originally posted by SonyFan
LoL - That cause you\'re an ass dude. *points and laughs*
Ginko, thanks for the heads up. I\'ll remain skeptical about what exactly he was insinuating at until after some solid facts come out.
Why would you remain skeptical? I\'d rather keep an open mind...eh, whatever...
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>"Backed down? What did you have to argue in the first place... "
It was not really an "agument" per say
rather I was refuting the statement by MS that you posted
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Originally posted by Chrono
>"Backed down? What did you have to argue in the first place... "
It was not really an "agument" per say
rather I was refuting the statement by MS that you posted
Refute all you want...I\'ll take the wait and see approach.
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I\'m more curious on who the "very respected" developer is (I\'d imagine Capcom if not anyone else), but after these initial Japanese sales, I guess we will all have to "wait and see" just like with E3... ECTS... TGS... etc etc etc
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Originally posted by Chrono
hey, I think your jumping on me a little fast, especially this time
I got my point in, however I backed down
I find Ginko\'s tone to be.. different
Especially in comparison to ps2two or BizioEE
You\'re always pointless...you\'re biased...you\'re a stupid fanboy...
I\'m a PS2 fan(ask faston) and find you moron if I continuously jump in a PS2 thread to express biased opinions(I have more than 1000 posts,and only lately I said something"against" PS2 and I got disgusted only when some guy started talking crap...and it\'s happened in 2 thread more or less...and now I\'ll stop to anser you morons)...I\'m only a bit disappointed from PS2 and disgusted by mindless and scared morons like you;)
Backed down? What did you have to argue in the first place...
Nothing! Chrono is not capable to argue something...he\'s a BS retard...
Thanks Ginko:) ...waiting for more info...
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Ginko,it\'s only a question of time...Jap developers will show a growing interest for the XBox,the interest and the massive attention it deserves;)
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Yawn :sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy:
is it just me or Does that sound like M$$$$$\'s PR are basiclly saying
Just Wait till E3 ?
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You don\'t see people jumping all over PS2 news
yeah you do, its just hard to talk down the winning console ;)
Backed down? What did you have to argue in the first place...
i think he had a point.. for ages XBox fans (and other people too) have been hyped up by what they believe is going to happen, only to be disappointed
same thing for fans of all consoles, just so happens that this time it was in respect to XBox, leave him alone or you\'ll be facing da ***** slapping from da Bobby Hardware :p
Ginko,it\'s only a question of time...Jap developers will show a growing interest for the XBox,the interest and the massive attention it deserves
huh? the winky at the end of it (the smily you sick freaks ;)) made it seem like you were joking, but with Japan\'s recent XBox console sales, and probably more importantly games sales makes me wonder why you think this.. just curious my friend
Why would you remain skeptical? I\'d rather keep an open mind...eh, whatever...
optimistic people get shot down and depressed, while pessimistic people get pleasantly surprised.. i wouldnt be expecting this news to be true.. but if it is, great.
but microsoft, along with all companies, have been known to do this in the past.. im just as skeptical if someone said this about a PS2 game. at last years E3 a sony representative mentioned that one of their forth coming unnanounced platform games was graphically looking far better than J&D and indeed anything else being shown at E3.. while i was optimistic upon hearing it.. i really dont believe it :) maybe you all should take this news with a grain of salt and a nice big dildo to satisfy yourselves until we hear more
gah! i had another really good point but lost it in my dildo joke! curses!
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huh? the winky at the end of it (the smily you sick freaks ) made it seem like you were joking, but with Japan\'s recent XBox console sales, and probably more importantly games sales makes me wonder why you think this.. just curious my friend
Because PS2 is not the only good console my friend
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Originally posted by BizioEE
Because PS2 is not the only good console my friend
but, my friend, if the sales arent there, then developers won\'t be either..
maybe if they thought the sales could have been good (pre-launch) but if XBox keeps performing poorly in Japan then its going to be a rare or stupid developer thats going to say;
"Hey.. lets go support that console that is selling worse than the PS2.. has a much small user base than the PS2 and the games arent selling very well at all... maybe we can make some of the real money"
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Firstly, we do\'t know what the sales are.
Secondly, Capcom is still supporting N exclusively with RE.
Thirdly, if there is an exclusive company for xbox that company got a big check from MS and it makes userbase considerations almost irrelavent.
Fourthly, if no companies made games, no consoles would get sold. Devs aren\'t going to abandon ship after the first week of sales.
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Dear God this thread is as exciting as the up comming UK X box Launch
:rolleyes:
:sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy:
Even Bigger YAWN !
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Originally posted by Watchdog
Firstly, we do\'t know what the sales are.
Secondly, Capcom is still supporting N exclusively with RE.
Thirdly, if there is an exclusive company for xbox that company got a big check from MS and it makes userbase considerations almost irrelavent.
Fourthly, if no companies made games, no consoles would get sold. Devs aren\'t going to abandon ship after the first week of sales.
>Firstly - true, but the average amount of games per XBox sold are 1.59 (or something to that effect) hell, thats worse than the PS2 was :)
>Thirdly - thats not the point he was making.. he said they would show interest, this is not what is meant when a developer "shows interest" in XBox
>Fourthly - That\'s why i said if sales keep going the way they are..
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Hey Bob...congrats on the mod thing and such...
i think he had a point.. for ages XBox fans (and other people too) have been hyped up by what they believe is going to happen, only to be disappointed
What exactly are you talking about? Some come away to be overwhelmed...we can\'t prove that it\'s BS, so why argue it??
And for the nature of the thread, to bring some news in that has no argumentive substance, he doesn\'t have a point. :p
same thing for fans of all consoles, just so happens that this time it was in respect to XBox, leave him alone or you\'ll be facing da ***** slapping from da Bobby Hardware
News is news no matter what...I agree. BUT, what I posted had no refutable facts. What is the arguements\' ground base? He\'s just speculating, there\'s really not much more to do.
but with Japan\'s recent XBox console sales, and probably more importantly games sales makes me wonder why you think this.. just curious my friend
MS has money, they also have a powerful console that I assume would be great to work on and better bring to life a developers vision and what not. A killer app from a very respected, reknown, and a key element to the success of another platform would no doubt sell systems.
I\'m more curious on who the "very respected" developer is (I\'d imagine Capcom if not anyone else), but after these initial Japanese sales, I guess we will all have to "wait and see" just like with E3... ECTS... TGS... etc etc etc
It\'s not Capcom or Konami, he had already visited them before this...
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
>Firstly - true, but the average amount of games per XBox sold are 1.59 (or something to that effect) hell, thats worse than the PS2 was :)
Yeah, and the PS2 was a second generation console...Xbox still has to prove itself, just like the PS had to do. It took a year to get off the ground but look what the end result was...
>Thirdly - thats not the point he was making.. he said they would show interest, this is not what is meant when a developer "shows interest" in XBox
Where was it said they showed interest??? Did I miss something...
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Originally posted by Ginko
Hey Bob...congrats on the mod thing and such...
thanks :p
Originally posted by Ginko
What exactly are you talking about? Some come away to be overwhelmed...we can\'t prove that it\'s BS, so why argue it??
well :) you missed my little point, i chances are i worded it incorrectly.. but then again, you have a history of looking too far into my posts :p
Originally posted by Ginko
News is news no matter what...I agree. BUT, what I posted had no refutable facts. What is the arguements\' ground base? He\'s just speculating, there\'s really not much more to do.
your rumours are just speculation.. theres nothing wrong with fighting speculation with speculation :) i didnt have any problem with it
Originally posted by Ginko
MS has money, they also have a powerful console that I assume would be great to work on and better bring to life a developers vision and what not. A killer app from a very respected, reknown, and a key element to the success of another platform would no doubt sell systems.
well i guess ill just sit here and twiddle my thumbs until that happens.. and we can hope and pray it helps MS sell systems so they can get the developers backing they need..
but then again.. sega had a few killer apps of their own didnt they ;)
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GAH! I HAD FINISHED EDITTING AND MY POST SCREWED UP SO ILL CUT IT SHORT!
Originally posted by Ginko
Yeah, and the PS2 was a second generation console...Xbox still has to prove itself, just like the PS had to do. It took a year to get off the ground but look what the end result was...
PS2 was extremely lucky to come into a shaky market where the leaders screwed themselves over BIG TIME, Microsoft are not so lucky to come into a market where Sony is a CLEAR leader with much more backing and user base than Sega and Ninteno did during the 32/64 bit generation.
god damn, i forgot what i said last time! grr
Originally posted by Ginko
Where was it said they showed interest??? Did I miss something...
i was referring to this..
Ginko,it\'s only a question of time...Jap developers will show a growing interest for the XBox,the interest and the massive attention it deserves
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your rumours are just speculation.. theres nothing wrong with fighting speculation with speculation i didnt have any problem with it
Oh yeah, nothing wrong with it except there can never be a right answer which makes the arguement pointless.
They aren\'t rumors, I just posted what I read. Nothing more, nothing less. What I gather from the interview...
MS just pulled in a very big development team that is working on a game that I should get excited about. Where did I speculate?
It\'s a pretty plain and simple post. There was never anything to debate...
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PS2 was extremely lucky to come into a shaky market where the leaders screwed themselves over BIG TIME, Microsoft are not so lucky to come into a market where Sony is a CLEAR leader with much more backing and user base than Sega and Ninteno did during the 32/64 bit generation.
god damn, i forgot what i said last time! grr
There is still time for screw ups and someone else to get the upper hand. I have much a guess as to what might happen....
I thought you were referring to something I posted...
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Originally posted by Ginko
Oh yeah, nothing wrong with it except there can never be a right answer which makes the arguement pointless.
They aren\'t rumors, I just posted what I read. Nothing more, nothing less. What I gather from the interview...
MS just pulled in a very big development team that is working on a game that I should get excited about. Where did I speculate?
It\'s a pretty plain and simple post. There was never anything to debate...
buh, it was more to do with how much they were hyping up the game that came into dispute (at least from what i was paying attention to).. if a company is hyping up their game, and someone thinks that it is right to be critical of what they are saying about it.. i gots no beef :)
for example something like..
>"our game will be the best ever, we have 100,000,000,020,000,007 polygons displayed on screen at once with unparalleled textures running at 60fps with NO slowdown at anypoint. Its gameplay will revolutionise the industry and will feature more interaction with the environment than ever before as well as realistic AI and the most advanced fighting system ever allowing new users to be good, but advanced users to be great"
*developer goes on to release Army Men*
could come into dispute.. sure its a little less severe than that.. but..eh im sure you understand
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
buh, it was more to do with how much they were hyping up the game that came into dispute (at least from what i was paying attention to).. if a company is hyping up their game, and someone thinks that it is right to be critical of what they are saying about it.. i gots no beef :)
for example something like..
>"our game will be the best ever, we have 100,000,000,020,000,007 polygons displayed on screen at once with unparalleled textures running at 60fps with NO slowdown at anypoint. Its gameplay will revolutionise the industry and will feature more interaction with the environment than ever before as well as realistic AI and the most advanced fighting system ever allowing new users to be good, but advanced users to be great"
*developer goes on to release Army Men*
could come into dispute.. sure its a little less severe than that.. but..eh im sure you understand
Take it as you will...;)
What\'s the point in arguing what you think will be the outcome of this news? We can\'t prove anything, whether it be good or bad, lie or truth...there was never anything to debate. :cool:
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Originally posted by Ginko
Take it as you will...;)
What\'s the point in arguing what you think will be the outcome of this news? We can\'t prove anything, whether it be good or bad, lie or truth...there was never anything to debate. :cool:
heheh, just think of it as him agressively saying he doesnt believe what they have said :) i dont think he was ever really debating, it was more just..
eh.. we\'ve gone on too long ;) *leaves it as is*
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it always comes down to this...maybe Chrono will come back continue it.
Laters...
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Originally posted by Chrono
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Lol, yeah
its got so much "room"
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thats why it won\'t fit in most of the japaneese houses
Buahahahah! Thats a good one. Just imagine if japanese people were as big as mites the xbox could pass for hotel. Really now....lets put a 8 gig harddrive dvd playback in the gamecube or the deadcast and see how big they could be. Size jokes are for the biased. Its all about the gaming anyway.
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...or put a 40 GB harddrive in a PS2 and it\'s still the same size! :p Of course it\'s all about the games, but a little bit smaller (Xbox) would have been nice. ;)
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Good one seven if I had a closet for a home there could be a problem. But I dont so the xbox fits nicely on my fridge. lol
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