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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: CHIZZY on February 28, 2002, 02:09:03 PM
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Lately my chums & I have been going bowling. A lot. So much so that I bought a ball, shoes, etc...
So, is this a sport or is it a hobby? I would like to think that it\'s a sport you can do while drinking.
BTW, if anyone\'s ever seen the movie "Buffalo \'66" (vincent gallo, christina ricci) we bowl at the same alley that\'s in the movie. That\'s right, ddaryl- Voelker\'s!)
In fact, I\'m goin\' there right now. Cheers!
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While I suppose it is a sport, I don\'t agree with it, for instance, being an olympic sport.
Olympians, and athletes in general should be fit people, but we\'re gonna be seeing 250 pound men with huge arms winning gold medals once bowling hits the olympics.
Almost anything competetive, organized, and physical in nature can probably be considered a sport, but I believe that one requirement for sports should be athletecism (sp?).
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bowlings cool, i used to play allot, not so much anymore.
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Originally posted by FatalXception
Olympians, and athletes in general should be fit people, but we\'re gonna be seeing 250 pound men with huge arms winning gold medals once bowling hits the olympics.
Almost anything competetive, organized, and physical in nature can probably be considered a sport, but I believe that one requirement for sports should be athletecism (sp?).
I disagree with that concept. I would consider bowling a sport. To me, a sport doesn\'t require athleticism, but rather some sort of physical skill. Bowling does require physical skill in order to direct the ball to the right point with the right amount of speed and spin. Besides, what makes rolling a heavy ball with accuracy any less of a sport than say throwing a heavy ball a distance (as in shotput).
Oh, and if you don\'t want to have 250 pound men with huge arms winning golds, you might want to get rid of things like weight lifting, shotput, wrestling, and numerous other sports.
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i would say it\'s a hobby much like pool, darts, and shuffle board. If you considersomething a sport because it requires a skill, then chess would be a sport, so would watermelon seed spitting, and so on. In addition golf is not a sport in my mind. (but this is coming from someone who is a complete jock, so i might be a bit close minded to wussy sports)
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If they allow golf to be called a sport, then I don\'t see any reason bowling wouldn\'t be considered a sport.
I guess the difference between sport and hobby is in the eye of the beholder.
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Yea, I\'d defintaly say it\'s a sport. Anything that requires u to sweat, even a little bit should be seen as a sport. Or anything that requires u to toss 10 pound balls for that matter
Just like ppl trying to shoot down golf as a sport. Golf takes precision, and swinging that club after awile does get tiring, trust me on that.
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Originally posted by theomen
If you considersomething a sport because it requires a skill, then chess would be a sport, so would watermelon seed spitting, and so on.
I didn\'t just say skill, I said physical skill. That\'s the difference.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
I didn\'t just say skill, I said physical skill. That\'s the difference.
oh my bad...how \'bout a new question, is masterbation a sport? if so i\'m gonna go pro!
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If bowling is a sport than so is cheerleading.
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And apperantly, if Bowling is a sport, so is Figure Skating...god.
See Yuz.
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From dictionary.com
Sport - Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
Physical, rules, and competitive. There ya go.
Dear God, please let there not be members (pardon the pun) on this board that take part in competitive masturbation.
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Originally posted by Sara
From dictionary.com
Sport - Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
Physical, rules, and competitive. There ya go.
Dear God, please let there not be members (pardon the pun) on this board that take part in competitive masturbation.
*looks left, looks right*
*signs up for Competative masturbation*
OH! Crap, I though this was the, uhh....non-competative maturbation...yeah....*runs*
Ahh, so many actions...See Yuz.
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Bowling IS a sport, pool IS a sport.
yes its true.. at least in my eyes, as i am an avid pool player and bowler. and it does require a good amount of skill for both, its not just physical skill, but mental skill as well. just because it doesnt involve running or getting in shape for, it is a sport which involves much practice and time put into it to be good at. this doesnt mean you have to come up with stupid **** and ask if its a sport just because it has common characteristics for why its a sport.. i mean use common sense. hell they play this on ESPN, and last time i checked... it was a sports station. i mean it couldve turned into the home of competitve masturbation over the last couple of days, but im sure it didnt.. cuz i havnt got the call yet.
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Originally posted by Sara
Dear God, please let there not be members (pardon the pun) on this board that take part in competitive masturbation.
Circle Jerk???? Dude, that could be an event in the X-Games.
FatalXception wrote:
Olympians, and athletes in general should be fit people, but we\'re gonna be seeing 250 pound men with huge arms winning gold medals once bowling hits the olympics.
Ever seen Curling?
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Originally posted by theomen
oh my bad...how \'bout a new question, is masterbation a sport? if so i\'m gonna go pro!
Chit man, if you go pro you\'ll be blind in no time at all!:laughing:
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it\'s just as much a sport as golf?
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No, i don\'t think it\'s a sport. Just like golf isn\'t a sport. They are hobbies that take a certain amount of skill. In my mind a sport is anything that requires running, jumping, anything physical. It has to be something where you have to be in shape.
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Golf is in the sports section. It\'s on ESPN. In Sports Illustrated.
Point made.
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GOLF IS A SPORT
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Golf isn\'t a sport in my eyes. A 100 year old man can play it.
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Originally posted by Fayded
Golf isn\'t a sport in my eyes. A 100 year old man can play it.
yeah but not good.
if NASCAR is a sport, so is bowling.
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If ice skating is a sport........then everything is a sport IMO.
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No, ice skating is a sport. You have to be in shape to do it and have great balance. A fat old guy can\'t ice skate but he can play golf. He can also go bowling.
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If you\'re saying golf isn\'t a sport, and figure skating is, then you have some twisted views of the sports world. A fat man can figure skate, just not well
You have to be in a different kind of physical shape to play golf. you have to have strong arms, and be accurate in hitting the ball to play well. You see fat men in football games all the time. Are they not athletes?
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Originally posted by Nice Ice
Bowling IS a sport, pool IS a sport.
yes its true.. at least in my eyes, as i am an avid pool player and bowler. and it does require a good amount of skill for both, its not just physical skill, but mental skill as well. just because it doesnt involve running or getting in shape for, it is a sport which involves much practice and time put into it to be good at. this doesnt mean you have to come up with stupid **** and ask if its a sport just because it has common characteristics for why its a sport.. i mean use common sense. hell they play this on ESPN, and last time i checked... it was a sports station. i mean it couldve turned into the home of competitve masturbation over the last couple of days, but im sure it didnt.. cuz i havnt got the call yet.
Do you consider video games a sport? They require mental and physical skill, dexterity, hand eye co-ordination, and play in organized tournaments. There are TV shows in which they play off, on channels like Youth TV. Is it a sport? I don\'t think so.
You say to use \'common sense\', but that\'s based on values, because my common sense tells me pool and bowling are not sports. They might be closer than videogaming is to being a sport, but not sports none the less. I consider them hobbies, which have moved into a grey area between hobby/sport. Videogames, btw, for me are still 100% hobbies.
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But those fat men are completely different. When your 330 pounds and can run the 40 in less than 6 seconds, you can talk.
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So are you telling me that the professional golf players you see are all less fit than NFL linemen? Please.
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How does asking if bowling is a sport result in the criticism of every other sport known to man.. everyone has different views so deal with it and dont raise the questioin if one sport is really a sport because half the ppl will say yes, the other no, then someone will say well if wutevers a sport then that has to be.
like if i said if cheerleadings a sport then everything must be.. it doesnt matter!
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Originally posted by FatalXception
Do you consider video games a sport? They require mental and physical skill, dexterity, hand eye co-ordination, and play in organized tournaments. There are TV shows in which they play off, on channels like Youth TV. Is it a sport? I don\'t think so.
You say to use \'common sense\', but that\'s based on values, because my common sense tells me pool and bowling are not sports. They might be closer than videogaming is to being a sport, but not sports none the less. I consider them hobbies, which have moved into a grey area between hobby/sport. Videogames, btw, for me are still 100% hobbies.
well it looks like ur \'common sense\' just sucks if your gonna say sometin like that
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So you tell us not to argue about whether bowling, or other such activities are sports, then you turn around and directly insult someone? That makes a lot of sense.
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Originally posted by Nice Ice
well it looks like ur \'common sense\' just sucks if your gonna say sometin like that
Well, I believe I made my opinion quite clear, I believe your opinion, is much less common sense.
It is your opinion[/i] that:
if cheerleadings a sport then everything must be
So that means you apply no thought process or common sense to anything, you\'ve just decided to lump everything into a big ball of \'sports\'. As such, I believe that we know your response to any more of our opinions, so you can just stay out of the rest of the discussion.
To the others, I wonder if there is some criteria we could use to define a sport... or if there will always be a shady border dividing hobbies from sports.
I was thinking, though I\'m sure this won\'t work in anywhere near to the majority of cases, that hobbies are things you are able to do or enjoy by yourself. I\'m thinking videogaming, bowling, etc. However, if you require others to be able to play properly, maybe then it could be a sport? Baseball, hockey?
Of course, then you hit the gray area again. Golf? If it is a sport, it fails that test. Figure Skating, if it isn\'t a sport, it passes it.
Perhaps sports are a culmination of requirements, like
1) Competetive
2) Atheletic
3) Organized
But again, I think that gray cases for either side will never fit into a structured mold, it comes down to your values, and what you believe to be a sport. I can\'t define what makes up my mind, but I definitely \'know\' what I consider a sport or not....
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Originally posted by FatalXception
So that means you apply no thought process or common sense to anything, you\'ve just decided to lump everything into a big ball of \'sports\'. As such, I believe that we know your response to any more of our opinions, so you can just stay out of the rest of the discussion.
actually it just means your a dumbass.. and you shouldnt exactly tell me to stay out of a sports discussion since i know more about sports than you. if you say videogamings a sport and cheerleadings not.. then you got issues. the whole cheerleading comment was sarcasm anyways, way to pick up on that genuis. anyways i didnt just decide to call everything a sport. if you just think.. well sorry you mite have problems with that, but IF you could just put some thought process behind this and you didnt feel the need to insult everyone who said sometin against your beliefs of videogaming sports then you would realize that just because the 4 major sports.. soccer, football, baseball, and hockey are more physical than most, it doesnt mean that every sport has to be. theyre more popular BECAUSE they are so physical. you dont have to knock the **** outta someone just for it to be called a sport. and just because part of a sport includes mental and physical ability to play a sport it doesnt mean that you can call everything a sport either. like i said use ur \'common sense\' and dont be stupid about it. there has to be rules, scores, competition, etc. its not just physical strength and mentality.
so use your \'common sense\' before you put up another reply dissing a sport just because you feel the need to contradict everything i say. and in some cases, bowling and pool isnt a sport. theres bowling and pool, and competitive bowling and pool. if you played in a bowling league, then youre in a sport. if youre by yourself, youre not. if youre shooting 9 ball for fun, not a sport. you join a pool league, its a sport. all part of \'common sense\' my friend. i think ive said enuff for now
peace.
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They way I look at it..or any other questionable *sport* If people compete in it..its a sport, if ppl gamble on it..its a sport.
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If you say videogamings a sport and cheerleadings not.. then you got issues.
If...you didnt feel the need to insult everyone who said sometin against your beliefs of videogaming sports
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Perhaps you should actually read entire posts and threads, then, before you reply.
Originally posted by FatalXception
Do you consider video games a sport? They require mental and physical skill, dexterity, hand eye co-ordination, and play in organized tournaments. There are TV shows in which they play off, on channels like Youth TV. Is it a sport? I don\'t think so.
Videogames, btw, for me are still 100% hobbies.
I never insulted you, I simply said you had made your views clear. If you plan to use sarcasm in the future, perhaps you should back it up by putting it in a context where it will be seen as sarcasm.
You need to learn to participate in a discussion of opinions. One thing you should realize is that I, and most people, can\'t actually STATE that someone else\'s opinion is WRONG. I may disagree with other\'s opinions, but I will almost always respect their opinion. If you ever expect to change someone\'s opinion, or get them to further understand and see your point of view, you will need to learn to talk about your opinion, and the opinion of others without using the words "dumb***" or "sucks". You need to realize that common sense, while \'common\', is still different for everyone, and that it\'s based on values and opinions that aren\'t shared homogeniously throughout society.
Perhaps when you\'ve understood that you will be able to futher contribute to threads where opinions, points of view, and personal values are being discussed.
As for sports, I believe that there are the \'true, 100% sports\', things like baseball, hockey, alpine racing and such. There are gray area activities that are closer to sports than hobbies, golf, cross country skiing, figure skating. There are gray area activities closer to hobbies than sport, bowling, pool. Then there are the hobbies, video-gaming, hot-pepper-eating, recreational bycicle.
Any activity will have some of the trappings and properties of a sport, and some from a hobby, so you have to allow your own judgement to place them into a category. That judgement, being personal and an opinion, is free to change, and I will not likely consider other people\'s way of thinking wrong - just different from my own.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
So are you telling me that the professional golf players you see are all less fit than NFL linemen? Please.
Yes that is what I\'m saying. Anyone can play golf, anyone who knows how to swing a stick and hit a ball can play golf. But you have to be in great physical shape to play football. I\'d like to see you go 60 minutes as an NFL lineman. You\'d roll over and die.
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Originally posted by Fayded
Yes that is what I\'m saying. Anyone can play golf, anyone who knows how to swing a stick and hit a ball can play golf. But you have to be in great physical shape to play football. I\'d like to see you go 60 minutes as an NFL lineman. You\'d roll over and die.
jesus the O. Line is one of the hardest things to play. you play with just about any injury and you have to go against guys twice your size sometimes. on the o line you cant use your hands and it requires some of the best balance ever. d line has it a little bit easier since theyre allowed to use their hands, so no doubt the line is alot harder than golfing
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First of all, O line men can use their hands. Just not in all ways. Anyone can play any sport. However, not anyone can play a given sport well. I never said O line is easy to play.
As for a sport being something that you need other people to play with in order to play it properly, I disagree with that. I can enjoy snowboarding alone, and I\'d consider that a sport. Bsically, I think my final definition of sport it this:
A competitive activity governed by a set of rules which is based in physical activity.
I have no doubt that golf is a sport. If you say that just anyone can play it, and play it well, then you don\'t know much about the sport. A 100 year old man might be able to play it, but he couldn\'t play it well. A 100 year old man could be a baseball player too, he just wouldn\'t be good at it. Golf does take physical ability to play.
Nice Ice, you have to learn that message boards are for discussing things. People will have opinions different from yours all the time, but they are just that, opinions. No one here has said anything stupid, except for maybe you, in calling our opinions stupid. No one is going to listen to anything you have to say if you post like that.
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My whole view on this is that if you compete in it and it is somewhat orginized then it qualifies as a sport. If it requires physical and or mental training/practice, in my mind its a sport.
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First of all, O line men can use their hands. Just not in all ways. Anyone can play any sport. However, not anyone can play a given sport well. I never said O line is easy to play.
yea thanx thats wut i meant at least you didnt go into a whole big page about it like some people..
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I consider taking a dump a sport, you use your brain, and you use your muscles to get the log out ! :eek: :laughing:
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Do you know why poop is tapered at the ends?
If it wasn\'t your ass would slam shut when you were done.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
Do you know why poop is tapered at the ends?
If it wasn\'t your ass would slam shut when you were done.
Thats a good one Vid!!!!111
:laughing:
One question though?
Do you think that your butthole would make a clapping sound when it slammed shut or what.
Oh yeah, and back to the original topic... I say bowling is a sport.:D
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Well one thing I do not understand is. Billiards is somewhat like pool with you have a white ball hitting all kinds of different balls. But is it just me, Why don\'t many blacks bowl? I mean come on where else can you have a black ball knock down "white" sticks of lumber? But then NAACP is still in effect. Nobody please take this personal.
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How about hunting? Is hunting a sport? If so, this guy sucks.
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Sounds like you have a problem. I say live with it, get over it!
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Originally posted by Bonez
Well one thing I do not understand is. Billiards is somewhat like pool with you have a white ball hitting all kinds of different balls. But is it just me, Why don\'t many blacks bowl? I mean come on where else can you have a black ball knock down "white" sticks of lumber? But then NAACP is still in effect. Nobody please take this personal.
Where the hell do you bowl? Everytime I go bowling we are the only white people in the place. (that\'s where I learn my fly ebonics, yo...) ;)
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Not many blacks bowl, like golf. From history perhaps? You tell me.
Oh and Btw, I was not aware they had bowling centers in africa!