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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: videoholic on March 01, 2002, 08:56:21 AM
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Move to Georgetown, CO... The Mayor certainly has no problem with it.
"Thursday, February 28, 2002 - GEORGETOWN - Koleen Brooks, the mayor of Georgetown, is an occasional pot smoker, she says. ........She also told reporter Ward Lucas of 9News that she smoked pot 15 minutes before an interview with him this week, according to the station....."
This chick rocks!!!
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1002,53~430986,00.html
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dang
heh thats a frist for politics - they actually tell ya they are smoking it for once - and i bet she inhales
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come to holland, its legal here
in fact... there is a weed store just 10 mins away from where I live;)
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....my mind went completely blank.:eek:
I had a great slam just waiting to be posted and my mind went blank...must be from all the weed I smoked when I was a teen.;)
oh well, better luck next time.:D
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Regular smokes are more leathal to your health than Pot.
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pot is illegal
i dont do that stuff.
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Originally posted by Toxical
Regular smokes are more leathal to your health than Pot.
i sure as hell never saw a filter on a joint before, have you?
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No thanks. Quit smoking pot months ago, boy and Im still having some withdrawl. Gotta friend that\'s trying to get me to buy a dime w/him eww....it\'s gonna be hard to resist but I know I gotta.
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Originally posted by mm
i sure as hell never saw a filter on a joint before, have you?
what in the world does that have to do with anything. not as many chemicals in weed that need to be filtered.
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the filter is just for the tar..
and the chemicals in pot attack your brain, mental illness and depression are common with long term users..
although, none of this has ever been proven.. but.. well, ill leave it at that
i dont smoke, nor do i smoke weed.. thats just the way it is.. things\'ll never be the same
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Originally posted by mm
i sure as hell never saw a filter on a joint before, have you?
but chemicals like arsenic are not found in marijuana, and Nicotine is much more deadily then THC
and most pople don\'\'t smoke a pack a day of pot
Marijuana doesn\'t have 1/4 of the problems associated with cigarettes and tobacco in general
and again most pot smokers only partake on occasion. Not constantly
Without a doubt Marijuana should be fully decrimianlized and legal for the 18 and older crowd. Its a huge shame that so many hard workign tax paying adults have to be consiodered criminals for such a thing.
also Bobs_Hardware
I bet the farm that if you show results of marijuana users and non marijuana users you will find that there is a similiar proportion of people who have mental illness and depression for those in the same age group
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drugs are bad, mmm\'kay?
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Who smokes joints???? Buckets only.
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Ddaryl is awefully well informed.. i wonder if the cops were called to your house if they\'d find anything..? :p
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The thing about your arguement about tobacco and marijuana is that they are both bad for you. No one in there right mind (besides maybe the heads of cigerette companies) can disagree with that. So why would you start smoking either?
Better yet, why should either be legal?
I think marijuana should definitely remain illegal. There should be reforms in the laws relating to it though. Some of them are rediculous. For example, the fact that if I were to go out of my home right now, get in my car, and plow down some neighborhood kid, killing him, I\'d be charged with man slaughter, and sent to jail for like 1 1/3 to 3 years. If I instead went outside, smoked some weed, and a cop came by and caught me, then found out that I had more of it inside, I could be going to jail for at least twice as long. That\'s just not right.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
The thing about your arguement about tobacco and marijuana is that they are both bad for you. No one in there right mind (besides maybe the heads of cigerette companies) can disagree with that. So why would you start smoking either?
Better yet, why should either be legal?
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Are you even informed about weed and not just what the media wants you to hear? I guess you forgot all of its *good* use\'s to where a person can get a prescription and walk around all day smokin. 90% of the mary-jane myths are just that..myths. Not much at all has been proven to be directly related to smoking cheeba.
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Medical uses, it could be ok, such as for terminally ill patients who need something to relieve pain, nausea, or other ailments. As for it\'s harmfulness, let\'s ignore its chemical composition and its effects for a second. Anything that you smoke is going to harm you. That\'s simple logic.
Besides that, there are other harmful effects from marijuana. They are limited, and it is a relatively safe drug compared to most other out there. It is true that it is much less addicting than nicatine. If one of the two were to be legal, marijuana might be the better one. But the bottom line is, it still has harmful effects. It is illegal for a reason.
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Drug s can be bad mm
but anything you do not in moderation can have adverse effects
Hardcore narcotics are bad because they have strong addicitng qualities that will cause people to do anything necessary to get more of them. Even though 90% of these peopel are good people when sober
and shockwaves in respose to your marijuan is harmful whats your opinion on Alcohol
Alcohol is a DRUG, it is more dangerous then marijuana in every aspect and causes more damage in a single year then marijuana has probably caused in its existence
anyone who takes the governments side that marijuana should remain illegal is truly uniformed or is basing a decision on a simple thought process of "Since I do not do it nobody else should"
In that case then all violent videogames should be banned because there are people who believe this
I hardly drink Alcohol. I do, but very seldom. It makes me ill alot of the times, and I don\'t enjoy hangovers. I do enjoy weed though. I function every morning after. make it to work, and generally remain as happy as one can be expected in capitialistic society where I\'m located and the lower middle class area. ( we all have our bad days)
If Alcohol is legal, then there can be no possible intelligent reason why marijuana shouldn\'t be. Again Alcohol is way more harmful
and I do not want anyone to become a weed smoker becasue I am, but alot of people need to realize there are quite a few people who are close to you, who you work with, who you bump into everyday of your lives that do enjoy kicking back with a pipe. And very few of these people deserve to be considered criminal for doing so
So all I ask is that you try not to judge everyone who does partake as this spaced out no brain loser that the establishment has burned into your brains as the only type of person who would do such a thing.
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Originally posted by Luke
pot is illegal
i dont do that stuff.
HA HA HA!!!
Riiiiiiight
And now, I will present Sara\'s theory on pot, and why it has not been legalized:
Alcohol is still legal because we have somewhat strict laws regulating how much we use - when we\'re in public anyway. A cop pulls over a drunk driver, and has a neat little contraption that can be blown into, and gives out a reading such as .04 or 1.5. Well, a cop pulls over a stoned guy for driving too slow, and can accuse him of smoking pot, but only \'cause the guy\'s eyes are glassy. Pot isn\'t legal yet because there\'s no way to tell how much is too much, or how much anyone has smoked at all! At least not in such a way that would be admissible in court.
And there ya have it.
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ddaryl... your my guy.
i couldnt have said it better.
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Sara
I think modern technology has developed ways of testing
but one of the real reasons IMO is the government can\'t tax it
How could you tell if someone grew there own or bought it from a taxable source.
If the Government could control it then they would be a heluva alot less reluctant to do so
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Oh I know they can test it, I just don\'t think they\'ve devised a cheap, easy way to do it. I agree about the taxation issue, but then again, we\'re allowed to roll our own cigs (I don\'t smoke cigs by the way), and to have micro-brews made in our homes. In some ways, I\'m almost afraid to see pot legalized. I can just see big businesses turning it into another cigarette fiasco - such as throwing in some additives used to form an addiction in the user.
In response to those who say stuff like, "Pot is illegal for a reason, it\'s harmful": That argument is completely invalid in my opinion. If it were valid, Ronald McDonald\'s stock would fall to about a penny. Not to mention the other endless chains and franchises who sell us processed cholesterol and fat in the shape of nuggets and burgers. Out with the Jolly Ranchers - if you eat too many of them, you could ruin your teeth. And so on, and so on.
Crystal meth is illegal because it will kill you. Now THAT\'S a valid argument.
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Sara
quite true
I don\'t promoite doing it, but I would not condemn doing it either
its a matter of choice and should be respected
just like violence in videogames
just like eating an Mickey D\'s
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Yea, although I dont smoke weed anymore I couldn\'t agree w/u more Ddaryl. . I mean gosh if alcahol is legal then why cant weed be. U drink a little alcahol and get completly drunk off ur as* and then go out and become a complete hazard on the road. I\'d smoke till I was tripping balls and then drive w/out any problem sometimes, but usually only did it when I was high or stoned but u get my point. Weed does no worse to u then drinking a little to much beer would. Neyway, Im not as good at explaining it as Ddaryl so I\'ll just leave this all to him.
This wasn\'t exactly in support of the ppl that do it, but just saying that weed should be legal if other so called harmful substances can....
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wow! This is somewhat a big issue here.
Back in the days, 1920s, alcohol is illegal. Due to high demands for it and bootlegs, the 21st amendment repeal the 18th amendment making it legal because people are breaking the law to get some drink. So the government think why not tax them with the drink they bought so the government have money to do whatever they see fits.
If there is a high demand for marijuana, then this could happen again. But the possiblity are very small. I think Ddaryl makes some good points (picture of a fish with a joint, funny.) So does Sara, but I think I agree with Ddaryl more.
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The way I look at it, what is the harm in making it legal? How can it be anymore detrimental than people claim it to already be? Being illegal isnt really stopping ppl. Plus with so many places not having a general concensus on the subject, makes it that much harder.
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I\'ve never tried it. But from what I\'ve gathered it\'s not as bad as alcohol, and that\'s legal. So let\'s legalize weed too! :D At the very least for those who would use it for medical reasons.
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It says it all!!!!111:D
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bah..weed isn\'t bad, thats why its LEGAL here
you guys should comeover here and go to the MCdope , its a McDonnalds type of thing but for weed
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I don\'t smoke pot coz I\'ve seen how my friends get when they do it. Hehehe, slow and slack is the best way to describe it.
I\'ll just stick to alcohol.
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ddaryl my thoughts exactly.
Why do I still smoke weed but not drink beer?Let\'s see,I can\'t drive when I drink beer,can\'t drink a six pack and then hit the basketball court,I don\'t really feel like reading a good book after I\'ve been drinking.But really I guess it comes down to a personel choice.Personaly I don\'t like the loss of control that comes with drinking.
Shockwave you wrote"theres a reason it\'s illegal".You\'re right,and I\'ll tell you the reason right now.In America back in the late20\'s to early 30\'s this country was in the midst of the great depression.At this time pot was not illegal in this country.But when the breadlines grew long local governments in the southwest started looking for a way to get mexican immigrants out of the country.Back then you could think of mexicans and pot the way you think of american indians and pot.It was just a part of thier culture.Well to make a long story short,it took the southwest territories a few years but they finally got (almost) what they wanted.A federal law that made marijuana illegal.I paraphrased almost because what they really wanted was for possesion of any amount to be considered a capital crime.That means they could execute you for possesion of any amount of pot.Did they really want to kill people over pot?No.But they did really want mexicans to leave and they figured making it a capital crime would do it.
I\'m going to end this with a story about the former mayor of New York city Laguardia.Yeah,the guy they named the airport after.In the 60\'s or 70\'s,right now I can\'t remember when he was in office,the government gave him money to do a study on the effects of pot on his city.Well I don\'t think they thought that he was going to do an honest study because when he came back with a report that said that marijuana had almost no negative impact on his city he found himself on the outside in washington so to speak.I\'m not going to try to say that the report was the unequivical truth about pot I\'m just trying to impress upon you what the government does when a report comes out that does\'nt say what they want it to say.Think about it.
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Well put Ben. I know ur not bragging bout doing other drugs but in a sense it sounds like it. I\'ve done many other harmful substances in the past and I regret it, almost ended up killing my self because of a stupid drug. Pot is hard to see has a drug substance on the otherhand, about the worse pot can do to u is make u pass out and go to sleep.
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You know what PSX_J I post from the heart and seldom spellcheck or read over my post afterwards.But after reading your post I did re-read my post and although I really was\'nt trying to brag it did come across that way,so I edited that part out.My apologies.Looks like I killed the thread anyway.
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Thanks for the thought Ben. I know u werent trying to brag but others might take it the wrong way. I did the whole drug bit for a while. I wasn\'t trying to be cool or fit in, I did it just cuzz I wanted to try it at first and then I got hooked and couldnt get enough. I started w/a little pot and that led me on to other substances.
As I progressed into doing drugs I started to feel low, lower than I had ever felt in my life. Nothing began to matter to me, not my friends, school, nothing. Although I had it pretty good I was really depressed. I started taking anti-depressants but this just mixed with the drugs I was taking plus alcahol and landed me in the hospital fighting for my life.
That right there is why I quit all along. Alright, I dont support smoking marijuana, or taking any other drug substances but I do support marijuana to be legalized in some sense. It\'s like saying I dont support smoking cigarettes but I dont see any big deal if it\'s sold legally. People make the choice as if to wether or not they want to take on alcahol or cigarettes, marijuana should be no different. The only thing that would concern me about marijuana being legalized is if say parents smoked it but there young kids happen to find it somewhere in the house or something. Marijuana isn\'t something you\'d want to smoke in front of ur own children because they can get a second high from the smoke and pot is very addictive. U also very well know if u do it ur kids are gonna want it very bad, I dont think they\'d frown down on pot like ciggaretes because marijuna isn\'t as bad for ur health and such.
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Originally posted by PSX_J
Marijuana isn\'t something you\'d want to smoke in front of ur own children because they can get a second high from the smoke and pot is very addictive.
there is nothing in pot that is actually, physically addictive. like, say, nicotine in cigs.
any addiction anyone has to weed is strictly mental.
hell, im addicted to cheesecake.
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Dont know if I agree with u or not Luke. I know theres not nicotine in marijuana but if this is so then there sure are alot of ppl mentally addicted to marijuana. What gets u addicted to marijuna is getting high, u get addicted to becoming high or stoned or w/e. If marijuana didn\'t get ppl high we wouldnt run around smoking it. I mean, do u smoke the grass of ur front lawn, ofcourse not because it doesnt get u high. Again I say, ppl get addicted to the high they get from marijuna thus meaning they are addicted to marijuna it\'s self. Same reason ppl run around looking for shrooms out in thier pasture at 4\' in the morning, wouldn\'t do it unless they knew they were gonna get high.
I will say that anything can become an addiction though. Like u said, ur addicted to cheesecake, Im addicted to kit-kat bars.
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Originally posted by PSX_J
Dont know if I agree with u or not Luke. I know theres not nicotine in marijuana but if this is so then there sure are alot of ppl mentally addicted to marijuana. What gets u addicted to marijuna is getting high, u get addicted to becoming high or stoned or w/e. If marijuana didn\'t get ppl high we wouldnt run around smoking it. I mean, do u smoke the grass of ur front lawn, ofcourse not because it doesnt get u high. Again I say, ppl get addicted to the high they get from marijuna thus meaning they are addicted to marijuna it\'s self. Same reason ppl run around looking for shrooms out in thier pasture at 4\' in the morning, wouldn\'t do it unless they knew they were gonna get high.
I will say that anything can become an addiction though. Like u said, ur addicted to cheesecake, Im addicted to kit-kat bars.
either way..its just a mental thing.
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Yea it is luckee, Im not trying to shoot down Lukes point because he\'s correct on that. All Im saying is that if it was legalized and someone smoked it infront of thier kids they\'re kids could very well become addicted to it also. Any of ya familar w/drugs know that ppl get a secondary high from this and this would be say from smoke entering someones system.
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Originally posted by PSX_J
Yea it is luckee, Im not trying to shoot down Lukes point because he\'s correct on that. All Im saying is that if it was legalized and someone smoked it infront of thier kids they\'re kids could very well become addicted to it also. Any of ya familar w/drugs know that ppl get a secondary high from this and this would be say from smoke entering someones system.
Just like eating steak in front of your kids..drinking alcohol in fornt of your kids, smoking ciggs. in front of your kids.. etc...
when does itt stop, there is a proper time for everything to start introducing your kids to. I for one, will tell my kids about drugs as early as possible so they understand the dangers, however they will never see me smoke weed.
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Good point luckee but ur kinda missing my point but thats ok because by this time I dont even know what I mean anymore.
But if u like to eat alot of brocoli, dont think ur kids gonna pick up that habbit or they now? Very unlikely.
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Originally posted by PSX_J
Good point luckee but ur kinda missing my point but thats ok because by this time I dont even know what I mean anymore.
But if u like to eat alot of brocoli, dont think ur kids gonna pick up that habbit or they now? Very unlikely.
Ahhh..but thats just it, they may want to eat it b/c they see mommy and daddy eat it, then they may happen to like it..so therefore being addicting by some ppl\'s theories. I know im using terms loosely, but just trying to get the point across.
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Well I never really picked up anything my parents did but I understand where your going with this.
Got a question though. I dont know if u smoke pot or not but u said ur kids would never see u do it. Does this mean u do? If so would u tell them about it or try and hide it?
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Originally posted by PSX_J
Well I never really picked up anything my parents did but I understand where your going with this.
Got a question though. I dont know if u smoke pot or not but u said ur kids would never see u do it. Does this mean u do? If so would u tell them about it or try and hide it?
I smoke occasionally. I wouldnt tell them untill they are old enough to make there own descision regarding smoking. Course that doesnt mean they wont anyway, I just want to be the one educating them on the subject and not some of their *friends*
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Yea, I understand.
Imagine them actually catching u though, it\'s gonna be hard to just hide it for years. One day they might come home from school and u might be out back toking it up and not even realise they\'re home. They walk out on u and u find ur self stuttering for an explanation as to why your holding a pipe in ur hand. Uh...er..installing underground watering system.
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Originally posted by PSX_J
Yea, I understand.
Imagine them actually catching u though, it\'s gonna be hard to just hide it for years. One day they might come home from school and u might be out back toking it up and not even realise they\'re home. They walk out on u and u find ur self stuttering for an explanation as to why your holding a pipe in ur hand. Uh...er..installing underground watering system.
Yea, Im sure they will find out before I tell them, since kids usually do, but I\'ll figure something out I guess :) Then again, I dont smoke much, so maybe they wont catch me. O, well, thats still a long way off..gf isnt even pregnant :)
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Well then enjoy ;)
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Originally posted by Videoholic
"Dude, I\'m rolling it as tight as I can"
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You rock man!
Where ever do you pick this chit up friend?:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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