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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: bigrob on March 07, 2002, 05:00:00 AM
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found this on bloomberg.com
"Microsoft Starts Recall of Xbox Video-Game Console in Japan on Scratching
Microsoft Corp. is recalling the Xbox video-game console in Japan because of a defect two weeks after its debut in the country, setting back its entry into the home turf of rivals Sony Corp. and Nintendo Co"
hehe.....
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Originally posted by bigrob
found this on bloomberg.com
"Microsoft Starts Recall of Xbox Video-Game Console in Japan on Scratching
Microsoft Corp. is recalling the Xbox video-game console in Japan because of a defect two weeks after its debut in the country, setting back its entry into the home turf of rivals Sony Corp. and Nintendo Co"
hehe.....
But I thought they said that the scratches were a natural effect from the friction between the laser lens and the disk.:rolleyes:
Oh well, hopefully they have learned their lesson eh?
;)
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Hay this isn\'t funny. Lots of peeps will have bought X-Box\'s on launch and now they don\'t work.
Game companies as a whole need to get there act together. Im not getting a console on launch ever again, not after the PS2.
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Originally posted by RichG
Hay this isn\'t funny. Lots of peeps will have bought X-Box\'s on launch and now they don\'t work.
Game companies as a whole need to get there act together. Im not getting a console on launch ever again, not after the PS2.
I for one agree with you man, but until we as the consumer demands better product, we the consumer will have to settle for whatever the console companies give us. The demand on the console manufacturer is so great that they are willing to do whatever it takes to get their product out the door.
Bill Gates has his own take on this outlook, His motto is “Package, Publish, Edit”. In short, he would rather get the product to you then work out the bugs, rather than work out the bugs then get the product to us.
This will always be the case as long as there are tens of thousands of people waiting at the door of their local electronics store for the newest console on the release date. Sad, but true.
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/me laughs at m$
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hmmm.. I guess the bugs from their OS jumped to their console :laughing:
If this news from bloomberg is true, the xbox is offically dead in japan.. the japaneese were unsure of the xbox as it was (along with japaneese 3rd parties). You add a recall into the mix... the confidence of this "foreign console" went from near zero to absolute zero.
Well.. maybe its not offically dead.. but your nuts to think it has much of a chance anymore
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Are you certain that the problem was to do with disc scratching? I heard it was to do with MS sending out VCRs by accident. :laughing:
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Ouch... Well I hope the Microsoft reps over there are prepared for the backlash. Say half of every sold launch console comes back defective... that\'d be like 6 or 7 consoles! Talk about a corporate nightmare.
Originally posted by RichG
Game companies as a whole need to get there act together. Im not getting a console on launch ever again, not after the PS2.
There is one company that actually takes time to make sturdy, working consoles, controllers, memory cards, software, etc... Its name escapes me for the moment, tho. ;] If it comes back to me I\'ll let you know.
-Eik
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Originally posted by Chrono
Well.. maybe its not offically dead.. but your nuts to think it has much of a chance anymore
:laughing: you said "your nuts" :laughing:
Chrono, you\'re nuts!
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Troglodyte, why are you trying to turn this into a "grammar" lesson?
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:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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anyone ready to call the japanese xbox launch piss poor and the upcoming euro launch an utter failure?
wheres the zealots from teamxbox forums when ya need em
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
There is one company that actually takes time to make sturdy, working consoles, controllers, memory cards, software, etc... Its name escapes me for the moment, tho. ;] If it comes back to me I\'ll let you know.
-Eik
Ohhhh, you must mean Sega...
Certainly can\'t be Nintendo...
*cough* NES *cough*
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Now it\'s even worst for Japan. I hope they will understand.
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Amazing...
Ok I can understand how some of the PS2 zealots here wanted to "win" the "console war", but really...
PS2 had a year head start and made the system backward compatible. IMHO the compatibility issue alone clinched it for them.
Granted I enjoy my PS2 more than my Xbox, I want both to do well. Hopefully by this time next year the Xbox will have more "AAA" games and pull some of the market share back their way.
I like having choices - sorry if that offends some of you ;)
Damn its still hard to believe its been over 2 years for the PS2...
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Guys you really should read the whole article, this was taken out of context. The xbox is NOT being recalled the article says later that they are accepting xboxes for repair that have this problem. It says they have gotten "263 calls so far", that is not anywhere near 125,000.
If I were microsoft I would be pissed because it\'s not true
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The official word from Microsoft on the Japanese Xbox console is found at http://xbox.jp/020307.html in Japanese, states two points:
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- If there are any problems developed with the Xbox Console, an Xbox game, or a DVD software, please call customer support, and we will swiftly assist you in any repairs or replacements.
- If any DVD/CD software is damaged when used by the Xbox Console, our company will replace the damaged media.
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I suppose this does constitute a recall. However, I really wonder how this problem arose only in Japan and not in the states. As in the PS2 case, any bugs or problems found in the hardware are usually first found in the original country which the console is release. Does this mean that the same problem is possible in consoles released in the states?
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Originally posted by Ashford
*cough* NES *cough*
Haha, that\'s right. 17 years ago they made a system (which still works for me today). Damn them. ;]
Figures the recall thing was a bit of a hoax, seemed too... true to be true, I guess. :)
-Eik
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yeah, my original NES still works, BASTIDS!
:mad:
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US Microsoft site\'s response to it. (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/misc/03-07xbox.asp)
On another note:
We should stop expecting consoles to last years and years like the Atari 2600s and NES\'s. Why? Because, all newer machines feature moving parts that can wear out with time; the older systems didn\'t have this. CD/DVD drives and hard disks are spinning items that will inevitably fail after a lengthy period of time (ten years, perhaps?), thus ending their lifespans far earlier than occurs with classic consoles. Perhaps the N64 was the last system that will actually live a long time, due to its lack of spinning thingies.
Though, noteworthy is that certain games will simply live on for a longer amount of time, thanks to the backwards compatibility allowed by disk drives. Even if the systems themselves, don\'t.
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Originally posted by Chrono
Troglodyte, why are you trying to turn this into a "grammar" lesson?
That\'s right, the proper way to say it grammatically is:
You ready?
You know what I\'m going to say.
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Originally posted by M4
US Microsoft site\'s response to it. (http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/misc/03-07xbox.asp)
On another note:
We should stop expecting consoles to last years and years like the Atari 2600s and NES\'s. Why? Because, all newer machines feature moving parts that can wear out with time; the older systems didn\'t have this. CD/DVD drives and hard disks are spinning items that will inevitably fail after a lengthy period of time (ten years, perhaps?), thus ending their lifespans far earlier than occurs with classic consoles. Perhaps the N64 was the last system that will actually live a long time, due to its lack of spinning thingies.
Though, noteworthy is that certain games will simply live on for a longer amount of time, thanks to the backwards compatibility allowed by disk drives. Even if the systems themselves, don\'t.
i wonder if they use the same "EXCUSSE" with Windows
i can see it now
a M$$$ rep saying " well you just got to understand that having to have your system crash and have the old blue screen of death, is the price you pay for using our "marvious" product"
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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The the first time Ive ever heard a company sokes person use the word thingys........so doubla hahahahahaha at MS!
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Originally posted by Eiksirf
Haha, that\'s right. 17 years ago they made a system (which still works for me today). Damn them. ;]
Figures the recall thing was a bit of a hoax, seemed too... true to be true, I guess. :)
-Eik
The issue isn\'t the NES not working but that it was such a pain to get games to boot. How often did you have to pop the cart out, reload it and power on? I haven\'t encountered an NES that didn\'t have this problem.
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blow in the cart, worked like friggin magic for me!
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Or, perhaps sometimes if the infamous blowing the cart technique didn\'t work, you\'d have to put different games in til it actually booted (e.x. Goldeneye didn\'t boot so you\'d pop in Super Mario 64, then retry it. But sometimes, maybe even that game won\'t help a specific game boot).
One thing carts did have and will probally always have an advantage over CD/DVD is the loading times and durability. I don\'t think CD/DVD\'s will ever reach the level where cartridges have achieved. And yes, I do know they make jewel cases for something. But how many times have people accidently dropped CD\'s or DVD\'s on the floor and they get a mark on them?
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Of course I know about the infamous "blowing" trick. I ran out of breath doing that. :P
Other tricks include alcohol swabbing, shoving the cart in as far as it could possibly go, and my favorite: using the cart jacket to wedge into the cartridge bay so it depressed the cart down. Most effective method for me.