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Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: videoholic on March 07, 2002, 07:34:18 PM
http://www.msnbc.com/news/720851.asp

You know they are posting these pictures of the plane crash and I would love to know one thing.  Where\'s the plane?  I\'m sorry, but they cut out the impact shots but I would think you would see something even with the shots they show.

Again, I believe there really was a plane crash, but after that other website I posted and now these pics that don\'t show a plane that the gov\'t released, it makes you say hmmmmmm..


mmkay
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: theomen on March 07, 2002, 07:37:36 PM
there is no conspiracy, everyone avoid this man, he\'s crazy!  Just go about your normal lives, the government is flawless, the government is good....
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: Luke on March 07, 2002, 09:23:34 PM
I hate the man

I also hate whitey
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: Coredweller on March 07, 2002, 11:41:06 PM
The US government should not have permitted those pictures to be released.  It looks to me like they completely undermine the assertion that a huge airliner slammed into the Pentagon.  If you look at the explosion and fireball, you\'ll notice that an equal amount of debris is flying UP and even OUT away from the outer edge of the building;  I would have expected to see most of the mass of debris moving inward, in the direction that the plane\'s inertia would suggest.  

Also, what is that squarish looking object sitting on the ground in front of the fireball?  It looks like a small outbuilding or a vehicle parked on the grass outside the Pentagon during the frames showing the explosion.  However, it\'s NOT visible on the first frame before the explosion begins.  What is it?
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: project86 on March 08, 2002, 04:27:02 AM
Where\'s the plane?:(
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: GmanJoe on March 08, 2002, 05:54:51 AM
The plane actually hit the parking lot ver very near the building and the debri and explosion was what caused the damage to the building.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: Coredweller on March 08, 2002, 07:49:08 AM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
The plane actually hit the parking lot ver very near the building and the debri and explosion was what caused the damage to the building.
There was a picture series posted here by Vid a couple weeks ago.  It included a couple pictures of the Pentagon taken right after the impact, and before the structure collapsed.  There was NO sign of skid marks, furrows, or even burnt grass on the lawn outside the damaged wall of the Pentagon.  No indication that an airplane struck the ground outside the building.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: videoholic on March 08, 2002, 08:02:59 AM
The other thread is right here.

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on March 08, 2002, 11:30:37 AM
I\'ve seen them today in the news... curious.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: mjps21983 on March 09, 2002, 12:27:21 PM
Yeah you know the govt. figured they blow up one of their own f*cking buildings, just so we could go over and find bin laden, doubtful, they probably edited the pictures, or cut a few frames out, and they are only stills not a continuous video, it could be a five ten fifteen second difference between the two.
And besides that these arent experienced jetliner pilots they could of been a little off target.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: Toxical on March 09, 2002, 07:55:21 PM
Any goverment will cheat, steal, and just fu@k you over any chance they get, never trust anyone in government :laughing:
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: videoholic on March 10, 2002, 05:47:19 AM
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Originally posted by mjps21983
Yeah you know the govt. figured they blow up one of their own f*cking buildings, just so we could go over and find bin laden, doubtful, they probably edited the pictures, or cut a few frames out, and they are only stills not a continuous video, it could be a five ten fifteen second difference between the two.
And besides that these arent experienced jetliner pilots they could of been a little off target.


Those pictures in that sequence are a second or less apart.  They are a continuous fireball.  No way they are 15 seconds apart.  Which means there has to be a pic of the plane\'s impact because no one is fast enough to hit record after impact like that.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: mjps21983 on March 10, 2002, 09:27:22 AM
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Originally posted by Videoholic


Those pictures in that sequence are a second or less apart.  They are a continuous fireball.  No way they are 15 seconds apart.  Which means there has to be a pic of the plane\'s impact because no one is fast enough to hit record after impact like that.


All right, but I just don\'t see why the govt. would blow that building up, my friends dad was almost there, went right through his office, it wasn\'t fake, if you want I\'ll call him up and ask for details.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: Psycomantis101 on March 10, 2002, 09:51:20 AM
^ you do that. Its funny cause i have always pissed off my friends by saying that bin laden didnt do this its a conspiracy and the us did it and sh*t like that.  But now im actualy wondering. Over all how much money did U S citezins raise for the  9_11 fund or the WTC fund? hmmmmm... where did the Us get all of its money for troops in afghanistan, funding this "war", and for highetend security in all international airports without raising taxes? Im truely gonna look into this. It could be interesting. I smell coruption:surprised
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: M4 on March 10, 2002, 10:44:48 AM
Maybe it wasn\'t intentional, but maybe it was something other than a plane that caused this attack.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: Fayded on March 10, 2002, 11:05:49 AM
When i was watching the news on the morning of Sep. 11 the first report was that a helicopter hit the Pentagon. But there is no helicopter or airplane. Meh.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: videoholic on March 10, 2002, 05:34:55 PM
The thought that is a conspiracy is a bit ridiculous since it came right with the other 3 planes being hijacked, but you have to admit it is a bit odd....
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: M4 on March 10, 2002, 05:39:58 PM
Well, it is noteworthy that this plane was moving at hundreds of miles per hour upon hitting the ground, so the odds of the camera not catching the actual crash (this was taking still pictures, after all) are increased, thus making for a better explanation.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: videoholic on March 10, 2002, 07:58:45 PM
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Originally posted by M4
Well, it is noteworthy that this plane was moving at hundreds of miles per hour upon hitting the ground, so the odds of the camera not catching the actual crash (this was taking still pictures, after all) are increased, thus making for a better explanation.


They aren\'t still pictures really.  It\'s time lapsed video.  this allows for them to save more for archival purposes than running 30 frames a second.  I bet there is about 5 seconds between shots.  Still odd.
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: kirath on March 11, 2002, 10:54:30 AM
Who cares..  The US Govt. will ownz joo...  

Americans won\'t care, as long as they are happy then what else matters..  Its true...
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: Eiksirf on March 11, 2002, 11:08:40 AM
I found it.  That big orange fireball?  That\'s the airplane.


Not to mention all of its passengers.

-Eik
Title: Pentagon Pictures
Post by: CHIZZY on March 11, 2002, 11:29:33 AM
If you look at the ground to the right of the fireball and use the seek bar to move it slowly from the first frame to the second frame you can see a strip of gray dust fly up just as the fireball is created. That\'s the plane hitting the ground just before it slams into the building. Also the Pentagon is a lot bigger than most people think... That fireball is many many times bigger than the plane that created it...