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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ##RaCeR## on March 08, 2002, 11:44:14 PM
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From IGN.
GT4 Will Blow Your Mind
A recent flurry of Japanese Websites have been talking up the first snippet of Gran Turismo 4. The sites have posted that GT4 was shown behind some very closed doors and that the game absolutely blew the onlookers minds. It looks stunning, and it\'s definitely, definitely online. Ohmigod.
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I\'ll have to see it to believe it, but if this is true, then wow. My mind is already blown just thinking about it. ;)
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well we all knew it would happen again, Racer is going to talk about nothing, but GT4 for the next year. :)
but seriously, I\'m already looking forward to this title, but unfortunetly it will be so over hyped, that no matter how good it is, it will be thought of as a let down to many gamers.
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wow! really? If the news are true... we are enjoying as children! I\'m pretty sure they will show anything in E3... (/hear: GOD/)
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Well, you can keep me upto speed Racer, i love the GT series and this news just makes me stiff. :D
I\'m currently about 98% completed GT3.. just about 16 more gold licenced tests to do, and about 4 Endurance races.
Beautiful :0)
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Sounds good, but I hope that the game will support off line play as well. PSO\'s off line play lacked a little imagination. I just hope that GT4 won\'t be centered on its online capabilities.
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take this with a grain of salt people..
just as long as it is fun :)
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GT3 blew my mind as it was, I cant imagine what GT4 will be like.
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Drool, GT4, I just hope it has drag racing along with it, that would be the shizzit. GT3 was great graphically and gameplay wise, but lacked some of the things I enjoyed from GT2.
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If GT4 is as much of an improvement on GT3 as GT2 was on GT, this is going to be pretty damn good indeed. POLYPHONY, LISTEN - We need more rally courses and stages!
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:cool:
Well GT3 only used 25% of PS2. If thats true... Then, then I can only imagine GT4.
:boom: :boom: :boom: :boom:
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The only thing I was worried about though was if it was going to be on PS2 or PS3. Now, I know PS3 is ages away (2005), but before this article there was a report on the PS3 hardware being shown to some top SONY execs.
It just gave the impression GT4 would be on the PS3. I highly doubt it though, I mean, 2005 is a long time between games, considering GT3 was realeased in JAPAN early 2001...
It\'ll be PS2. It has to be...
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"Now, I know PS3 is ages away (2005), but before this article there was a report on the PS3 hardware being shown to some top SONY execs." - Racer
I find that a little hard to believe seeing as how PS3 hardware isn\'t even close to being finalized yet the last I heard. I may be wrong in this, but wasn\'t that IBM/Toshiba/Sony chip due out in 2005 (Cell) going to be the main CPU in the PS3 or is that only going to handle the processing server side?
My money is that hardware diagrams and proposed specs were shown to top Sony execs, along with either a partially playable demo or a FMV playing on a machine which matches what the PS3\'s specs are hoped to be. That\'s IF.. it\'s a PS3 game.
Chances are very.. VERY good that it\'s a PS2 game.. and that it\'s been overhyped.
:(
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PS3 does not exists..
Its a bunch of very powerful computers emulating the CELL processor.
The Cell processor is still in development and it still has no final specs.
GT4 IS a PS2 game.
PS3 is 4-5 maybe even 6 years away. (You never know)
I read that GT4 will be the last GT game on PS2. PD will then make some other games (Ive heard talks about a RPG, motorcycle racing game ect.)
SonyFan: I would not say its been overhyped until I get to see the pictures myself.
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I still haven\'t played GT3 properly yet. Ill get it now its on budget I think.
As for GT4, it should be good. I just hope they make the AI better. The PS3 will be being worked on as we speak. These things take years - to that effect the PS4 will have been talked about at some time or another. Im sure Sony will already have a sure idea what the PS3 will be like. More important is when they release this information.
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Sorry fastson, I guess I should have said that it\'s "going to be" overhyped. After the success of GT3 (both graphically, gameplay wise, and commecially).. to say that it\'s sequel is going to "blow your mind" is a bit far fetched. The human brain is a much more powerful graphics workhorse than the PS2 is.. and without pics I think people\'s imaginations will run away with them.. which leads to dissapointment.
I saw the same thing happen with Shenmue, and see it happening with Xbox\'s Project Ego. The concept and ideas sound good, and I\'m sure Ego will be a pretty reveloutionary console game like Shenmue was.... but neither one of them can live up to the hype that surrounded them. The power just isn\'t there, in ANY commecial computer/gaming system for THAT level of gameplay. The point is.. with only good impressions and no media to back it up, a lot of people will let their imaginations get the best of them.
If I\'m wrong, at least I\'m in for a pleasant surprise though. :D
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I\'m glad GT4 is the last GT game on PS2. Don\'t get me wrong I\'m still in awed with GT3 but what i really want to see is the incredible GT3 engine being applied to a different genre of games.
There\'s so much possibility there!!
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fatson: PS3 will be out in less than 4 years time, guaranteed. No way does the PS2 have 6 years life left in it :laughing:
GT3 bored the hell out of me. I got to about 30% (did all the arcade) and couldn\'t be bothered with the rest :(
I hope GT4 is better :) Since playing GTA3, I never play any other car game :D Although I\'m waiting for Colin McRae 3, and maybe RalliSport if I can afford a lauch Xbox. Rally games are more fun IMO
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Originally posted by tomrob
fatson: PS3 will be out in less than 4 years time, guaranteed. No way does the PS2 have 6 years life left in it :laughing:
GT3 bored the hell out of me. I got to about 30% (did all the arcade) and couldn\'t be bothered with the rest :(
I hope GT4 is better :) Since playing GTA3, I never play any other car game :D Although I\'m waiting for Colin McRae 3, and maybe RalliSport if I can afford a lauch Xbox. Rally games are more fun IMO
No..
The main processor for PS3, the Cell processor wont be ready for mass production until 2005.
We say its ready at early 2005. That means the PS3 will launch in late 2005 maybe early 2006 in Japan. (we say late 2005 just for the record)..
That means the European and American models will launch maybe 6 months later. In 2006.
Thats 5 years.
Would people have expected the PSX to live for 6 almost 7 years when it was only 2 years old? No.
PSX is going to continue to live for another few years.
PS2 will live a long time as well. Especially if it will have these types of quality titles throughout its lifespan so Sony wont need to release a new console that early.
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I love GT,and can\'t wait for GT4...but I don\'t expect notable improvements in the graphics department and about GT3 using 25% of PS2,I think it\'s BS...and I hope polyphony will use most of the remaining power for physics,collision-system and damage on cars.
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Well, I think 2005 is the closest date for PS3, that is unless the PS2 does extremely GOOD or extremely BAD.
From what I have heard, its looking at a 2005 release date. As for GT4, It will supposedly coincide with the Broadband and HDD releases (mainstream).
According to granturismo.com, GT4 hs been slated by SONY for a Christmas/Jan/Feb 2002/03 launch in Japan...
This is possible, considering GT3 was released in April 2001 in Japan.... Thats almost 2 years between games...
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Originally posted by BizioEE
I love GT,and can\'t wait for GT4...but I don\'t expect notable improvements in the graphics department and about GT3 using 25% of PS2,I think it\'s BS...and I hope polyphony will use most of the remaining power for physics,collision-system and damage on cars.
I asked a developer about the 25% number. He said it was pretty accurate (he has been using PA2 for some time)..
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Originally posted by fastson
I asked a developer about the 25% number. He said it was pretty accurate (he has been using PA2 for some time)..
Is that graphics or physics or both? I am confused as to how you could get a number like 25%. Also, do you think that IF GT3 ran at 30fps instead of 60, that they could populate the environments twice over, like, twice the amount of detail???
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I\'m pretty sure the PA2 analyses the total and not just graphics so I\'d say both and everything else :)
Fastson, set the record straight mate.
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That 25% number reports on the overall performance still left. That includes bandwidth (how much more data can be streamed through), of the vector units and rendering bandwidths.
I have also spoken to some developer and that the numbers are pretty accurate.
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What seven said.. :D
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I remember when they said Rage Racer used 100% of the PSOne. Dont they just say this way too often ? Dont underestimate the power of PS2 and the developers.
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Originally posted by seven
That 25% number reports on the overall performance still left. That includes bandwidth (how much more data can be streamed through), of the vector units and rendering bandwidths.
I have also spoken to some developer and that the numbers are pretty accurate.
You don\'t know what happens behind the scenes...some dev are biased as hell...
I wanna believe only what I see...the END
seven,mm opened a new Thread under my demand...and I know you were one of those who expressed interest in a hardware-based forum...
Why don\'t you spend a bit of time even there? :)
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Originally posted by BizioEE
You don\'t know what happens behind the scenes...some dev are biased as hell...
Sure.. Everyone is bias to some degree.
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Originally posted by Agnino
I remember when they said Rage Racer used 100% of the PSOne. Dont they just say this way too often ? Dont underestimate the power of PS2 and the developers.
well, it\'s all up to the developers and always will. That Rage Racer estimate of 100% wasn\'t very accurate and they didn\'t have tool that messures the data going through the severall bandwidths of the hardware as they do now on PS2. This tool has the potential to help developers tell where they can sqeeze some more data through.
Just on a side note:
game-engine fully maxed out does NOT EQUAL hardware fully maxed out
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Originally posted by fastson
No..
The main processor for PS3, the Cell processor wont be ready for mass production until 2005.
We say its ready at early 2005. That means the PS3 will launch in late 2005 maybe early 2006 in Japan. (we say late 2005 just for the record)..
That means the European and American models will launch maybe 6 months later. In 2006.
Thats 5 years.
Would people have expected the PSX to live for 6 almost 7 years when it was only 2 years old? No.
PSX is going to continue to live for another few years.
PS2 will live a long time as well. Especially if it will have these types of quality titles throughout its lifespan so Sony wont need to release a new console that early.
That\'s what i thought too. I believe ps2 won\'t comes out in japan at least not until late 2005 as the earliest. or Perhaps March 2006 for a six years life time. That\'s about 4 years from now. Now is 2002. But we, Americans won\'t get it until Maybe late 2006 as the earliest. Perhaps Oct. 2006.
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Even more news...
As expected, Gran Turismo series producer Kazunori Yamauchi made an appearance at the \'Tokyo Amlux Auto Salon\' last weekend in Japan. At the event, Yamauchi-san unveiled a new version of Gran Turismo developed exclusively for Toyota, answered questions from the assembled crowd, and revealed preliminary details regarding his next project, Gran Turismo 4.
To begin, Yamauchi-san provided some background on his massively popular racing series. Specifically, he applauded Toyota of their continued support. In his own words, he said, \'Toyota was one of only three or four companies which were immediately supportive of the Gran Turismo series.\' As a sign of his gratitude, Yamauchi-san unveiled a special version of Gran Turismo dubbed \'Amlux\' which features all Toyota vehicles and will be on display exclusively at the Amlux dealership in Ikebukuro, Tokyo.
Continuing, Yamauchi-san demonstrated \'Gran Turismo Concept,\' a mini-sequel in the series featuring all concept cars available for the PlayStation 2. As he raced around the Route 246 course, Yamauchi-san explained the delicate nature of vehicle modeling and attention to detail in designing the backgrounds. More intriguing however, he went on to talk about the next chapter in the series, Gran Turismo 4. Specifically, Yamauchi-san said development was still relatively early. Nevertheless, he reaffirmed plans to include full network support. Scheduled for release in 2003, the game will allow players to download new vehicles and race against human opponents online. Moreover, he expressed interest in building a \'test drive\' mode that will allow players to experience a new vehicle online before buying it.
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Maybe it will permanently shoot down that Project SUCKS Gotham.
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Personally, I like the way Gotham plays - The close camera angels, its slow acceleration and exagerated reflection mapping.
Car models are slightly dodgy, and some major texture issues on Buildings.
I honestly hope Polyphony give more angels for GT4.